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  • #16
    from the Gospel of Nicodemus....death and hell

    1
    And while all the saints were rejoicing, behold Satan the prince and chief of death said unto Hell:
    Make thyself ready to receive Jesus who boasteth himself that he is the Son of God, whereas he is a man that feareth death, and sayeth:
    ''My soul is sorrowful even unto death''.
    And he hath been much mine enemy, doing me great hurt, and many that I had made blind, lame, dumb, leprous, and possessed he hath healed with a word: and some whom I have brought unto thee dead, them hath he taken away from thee.

    2 Hell answered and said unto Satan the prince:
    Who is he that is so mighty, if he be a man that feareth death? for all the mighty ones of the earth are held in subjection by my power, even they whom thou hast brought me subdued by thy power.
    If, then, thou art mighty, what manner of man is this Jesus who, though he fear death, resisteth thy power?
    If he be so mighty in his manhood, verily I say unto thee he is almighty in his god-head, and no man can withstand his power.
    And when he saith that he feareth death, he would ensnare thee, and woe shall be unto thee for everlasting ages.
    But Satan the prince of Tartarus said:
    Why doubtest thou and fearest to receive this Jesus which is thine adversary and mine?
    For I tempted him, and have stirred up mine ancient people of the Jews with envy and wrath against him. I have sharpened a spear to thrust him through, gall and vinegar have I mingled to give him to drink, and I have prepared a cross to crucify him and nails to pierce him: and his death is nigh at hand, that I may bring him unto thee to be subject unto thee and me.

    3 Hell answered and said:
    Thou hast told me that it is he that hath taken away dead men from me. For there be many which while they lived on the earth have taken dead men from me, yet not by their own power but by prayer to God, and their almighty God hath taken them from me.
    Who is this Jesus which by his own word without prayer hath drawn dead men from me?
    Perchance it is he which by the word of his command did restore to life Lazarus which was four days dead and stank and was corrupt, whom I held here dead.
    Satan the prince of death answered and said:
    It is that same Jesus.
    When Hell heard that he said unto him:
    I adjure thee by thy strength and mine own that thou bring him not unto me. For at that time I, when I heard the command of his word, did quake and was overwhelmed with fear, and all my ministries with me were troubled.
    Neither could we keep Lazarus, but he like an eagle shaking himself leaped forth with all agility and swiftness, and departed from us, and the earth also which held the dead body of Lazarus straightway gave him up alive. Wherefore now I know that that man which was able to do these things is a God strong in command and mighty in manhood, and that he is the saviour of mankind.
    And if thou bring him unto me he will set free all that are here shut up in the hard prison and bound in the chains of their sins that cannot be broken, and will bring them unto the life of his god head for ever.


    V (XXI)


    1 And as Satan the prince, and Hell, spoke this together, suddenly there came a voice as of thunder and a spiritual cry:
    Remove, O princes, your gates, and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors, and the King of glory shall come in.
    When Hell heard that he said unto Satan the prince:
    Depart from me and go out of mine abode: if thou be a mighty man of war, fight thou against the King of glory.
    But what hast thou to do with him?
    And Hell cast Satan forth out of his dwelling.
    Then said Hell unto his wicked ministers:
    Shut ye the hard gates of brass and put on them the bars of iron and withstand stoutly, lest we that hold captivity be taken captive.

    2 But when all the multitude of the saints heard it, they spake with a voice of rebuking unto Hell:
    Open thy gates, that the King of glory may come in.
    And David cried out, saying:
    Did I not when I was alive upon earth, foretell unto you: Let them give thanks unto the Lord, even his mercies and his wonders unto the children of men; who hath broken the gates of brass and smitten the bars of iron in sunder? he hath taken them out of the way of their iniquity.
    And thereafter in like manner Esaias said:
    Did not I when I was alive upon earth foretell unto you: The dead shall arise, and they that are in the tombs shall rise again, and they that are in the earth shall rejoice, for the dew which cometh of the Lord is their healing? And again I said: O death, where is thy sting? O Hell, where is thy victory?

    3 When they heard that of Esaias, all the saints said unto Hell:
    Open thy gates: now shalt thou be overcome and weak and without strength. And there came a great voice as of thunder, saying:
    Remove, O princes, your gates, and be ye lift up ye doors of hell, and the King of glory shall come in.
    And when Hell saw that they so cried out twice, he said, as if he knew it not: Who is the King of glory?
    And David answered Hell and said:
    The words of this cry do I know, for by his spirit I prophesied the same; and now I say unto thee that which I said before:
    The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle, he is the King of glory. And:
    The Lord looked down from heaven that he might hear the groanings of them that are in fetters and deliver the children of them that have been slain. And now, O thou most foul and stinking Hell, open thy gates, that the King of glory may come in.
    And as David spake thus unto Hell, the Lord of majesty appeared in the form of a man and lightened the eternal darkness and brake the bonds that could not be loosed: and the succour of his everlasting might visited us that sat in the deep darkness of our transgressions and in the shadow of death of our sins.
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    • #17
      cont..in part from the gospel of Nicodemus

      (XXII)


      1 When Hell and death and their wicked ministers saw that, they were stricken with fear, they and their cruel officers, at the sight of the brightness of so great light in their own realm, seeing Christ of a sudden in their abode, and they cried out, saying:
      We are overcome by thee.
      Who art thou that art sent by the Lord for our confusion?
      Who art thou that without all damage of corruption, and with the signs (?) of thy majesty unblemished, dost in wrath condemn our power?
      Who art thou that art so great and so small, both humble and exalted, both soldier and commander, a marvelous warrior in the shape of a bondsman, and a King of glory dead and living, whom the cross bare slain upon it?
      Thou that didst lie dead in the sepulchre hast come down unto us living and at thy death all creation quaked and all the stars were shaken and thou hast become free among the dead and dost rout our legions.
      Who art thou that settest free the prisoners that are held bound by original sin and restorest them into their former liberty?
      Who art thou that sheddest thy divine and bright light upon them that were blinded with the darkness of their sins?
      After the same manner all the legions of devils were stricken with like fear and cried out all together in the terror of their confusion, saying:
      Whence art thou, Jesus, a man so mighty and bright in majesty, so excellent without spot and clean from sin?
      For that world of earth which hath been always subject unto us until now, and did pay tribute to our profit, hath never sent unto us a dead man like thee, nor ever dispatched such a gift unto Hell.
      Who then art thou that so fearlessly enterest our borders, and not only fearest not our torments, but besides essayest to bear away all men out of our bonds? Peradventure thou art that Jesus, of whom Satan our prince said that by thy death of the cross thou shouldest receive the dominion of the whole world.

      2 Then did the King of glory in his majesty trample upon death, and laid hold on Satan the prince and delivered him unto the power of Hell, and drew Adam to him unto his own brightness.


      VII (XXIII)


      Then Hell, receiving Satan the prince, with sore reproach said unto him:
      O prince of perdition and chief of destruction, Beelzebub, the scorn of the angels and spitting of the righteous why wouldest thou do this?
      Thou wouldest crucify the King of glory and at his decease didst promise us great spoils of his death: like a fool thou knewest not what thou didst.
      For behold now, this Jesus putteth to flight by the brightness of his majesty all the darkness of death, and hath broken the strong depths of the prisons, and let out the prisoners and loosed them that were bound. And all that were sighing in our torments do rejoice against us, and at their prayers our dominions are vanquished and our realms conquered, and now no nation of men feareth us any more.
      And beside this, the dead which were never wont to be proud triumph over us, and the captives which never could be joyful do threaten us. O prince Satan, father of all the wicked and ungodly and renegades wherefore wouldest thou do this?
      They that from the beginning until now have despaired of life and salvation-now is none of their wonted roarings heard, neither doth any groan from them sound in our ears, nor is there any sign of tears upon the face of any of them. O prince Satan, holder of the keys of hell, those thy riches which thou hadst gained by the tree of transgression and the losing of paradise, thou hast lost by the tree of the cross, and all thy gladness hath perished. When thou didst hang up Christ Jesus the King of glory thou wroughtest against thyself and against me.
      Henceforth thou shalt know what eternal torments and infinite pains thou art to suffer in my keeping for ever.
      O prince Satan, author of death and head of all pride, thou oughtest first to have sought out matter of evil in this Jesus: Wherefore didst thou adventure without cause to crucify him unjustly against whom thou foundest no blame, and to bring into our realm the innocent and righteous one, and to lose the guilty and the ungodly and unrighteous of the whole world? And when Hell had spoken thus unto Satan the prince, then said the King of glory unto Hell: Satan the prince shall be in thy power unto all ages in the stead of Adam and his children, even those that are my righteous ones.


      VIII (XXIV)


      1 And the Lord stretching forth his hand, said: Come unto me, all ye my saints which bear mine image and my likeness. Ye that by the tree and the devil and death were condemned, behold now the devil and death condemned by the tree.
      And forthwith all the saints were gathered in one under the hand of the Lord. And the Lord holding the right hand of Adam, said unto him: Peace be unto thee with all thy children that are my righteous ones. But Adam, casting himself at the knees of the Lord entreated him with tears and beseechings, and said with a loud voice: I will magnify thee, O Lord, for thou hast set me up and not made my foes to triumph over me: O Lord my God I cried unto thee and thou hast healed me; Lord, thou hast brought my soul out of hell, thou hast delivered me from them that go down to the pit. Sing praises unto the Lord all ye saints of his, and give thanks unto him for the remembrance of his holiness. For there is wrath in his indignation and life is in his good pleasure. In like manner all the saints of God kneeled and cast themselves at the feet of the Lord, saying with one accord:
      Thou art come, O redeemer of the world: that which thou didst foretell by the law and by thy prophets, that hast thou accomplished in deed. Thou hast redeemed the living by thy cross, and by the death of the cross thou hast come down unto us, that thou mightest save us out of hell and death through thy majesty. O Lord, like as thou hast set the name of thy glory in the heavens and set up thy cross for a token of redemption upon the earth, so, Lord, set thou up the sign of the victory of thy cross in hell, that death may have no more dominion.
      so interesting to see what Nicodemus wrote

      did you notice this information?

      Who art thou that settest free the prisoners that are held bound by original sin and restorest them into their former liberty?
      2 words - former liberty.
      ummm

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      • #18
        Joseph of arimathea......cont

        He has a wonderfull history as the rich and very successfull great uncle of our Messiah,

        His story is here and surrounded by myths.
        http://www.timelessmyths.com/arthuri...il.html#Joseph

        look
        here is Nicodemus entering into the picture.
        http://www.timelessmyths.com/arthuri...tml#Perlesvaus




        yet today we find this new information......


        http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/


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