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**Eliyah** · 09-25-2009, 02:50 AM

A Witness Of YAH-SHUA- YAH-SAVIOR In Scriptures.

We should reconsider the importance of knowing the SAVIOR’s true name. Why? I quote Messiah Himself, "Whosoever (any person) therefore shall confess Me before men, him (that person) will I confess also before my Father which is in Heaven. But whosoever (any person) shall deny Me (Messiah) before men, him (or that person) will I also deny before my Father which is in Heaven." (Matt. 10:32-33; Luke 12:8-9).

Please compare this to (Rom. 10:9-10- If thou confess with thy mouth the Messiah YAH-SHUA, and believe in thy heart or mind, and that Elohim hath raised Him from the dead, thou shall be saved) (Rev. 3:3-5; See also Rev. 2:13) quote, "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast and repent……He (any person) that over cometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his (that person’s) NAME out of the Book of Life, but I will confess his (that person’s) NAME before my Father, and before His angels".

If people don’t know His true name how can they confess His true name to or before others to be saved? Also, if you deny His and the Father’s true name, and blot out the Father and Messiah’s true name out of the scriptures, as most traditional English translations have done, will He not deny your name before the Father in Heaven, and blot out your name from the Book of Life? (See Rev. 20:12). Selah- stop and think deep about this. Then how can you even be saved, and have your name written in the Lamb’s Book of Life? I think knowing His true Name is the utmost importance for salvation according to these texts don’t you?

The critics scoff at those of us who stand on Messiah’s own words when He said, "I am come in my Father’s name, and you receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him you will receive (Jn. 5:43)." Did He only come in the authority of the Father, or did He really come bearing the Father’s name also? Let’s quote another text of Messiah, by the Apostle John, and the very voice of YAHWEH the Father answering Messiah in return, then ask a question to it. Our SAVIOR said, "Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from Heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again." (Jn. 12:28-30; See also Jn. 17:3-6 ).

If the SAVIOR did not really come in the Father’s name as many claim, did not bear the Father’s name as many claim, then how was the Father going to glorify His own name AGAIN through the death and resurrection of His own Son, because iwvhy YAHSHUA= YAH (3050, 3068)-SAVIOR (3467) said, glorify thy (Father’s) name? Will you believe your SAVIOR and mine, including the Father too? Selah- stop and think on this deeply.

Questions The Pharisee’s Could Nor Would Not Answer.

The Messiah asked the Pharisees "What think ye of Messiah? Whose Son is He? The Pharisees say unto Him, the son of David. He Messiah said to them, how then doth David in spirit call Him Master, Sovereign (Lord), saying, YAHWEH said unto my Sovereign (Master, Lord), Sit thou on My Right Hand, till I make thy enemies thy footstool? If David then call Him Sovereign (Lord), how is He (Messiah) his (David’s) son? And no man was able to answer Him (Messiah) a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask Him any more questions. (Matt. 22:42-46). The Pharisees could not even understand these questions, however, Mark said "the common people heard (or understood) Him gladly."(Mark 12:35-37)

The Messiah quoted this from Psalms 110:1-5 and now we will let the scripture explain this text. Please understand, that all scriptures tell us that Messiah sits at the right hand of the Father YAHWEH, even Messiah told Caiaphas the high priest, scribes, and elders this (See Matt. 26:57,64; Mark 14:62; Luke 22:69), even Stephen said this while being stoned to death (See Acts 7:56). Now back to Psalms 110:1-5, however, let’s properly transliterate the correct names in these scriptures, but first you must understand, that the ancient scribes substituted the title of "Adonai" in place of the name of hvhy YHWH= YAHWEH more than 134 places in original Hebrew scriptures, as E.W. Bullinger and others will verify this, and Psalms 110:1,5 are examples of this substitution.

Notice Psalms 110:5 is correctly rendered in the Word of YAHWEH edition and "The Scriptures" version, the Bethel Edition as hvhy (K.J.V. uses LORD)=YHWH=YAHWEH (The Son) at thy (YAHWEH the Father’s) right hand shall strike through kings in the day of His wrath. So Psalms 110:1 should read, "hvhy YHWH=YAHWEH (The Father) said unto my hvhy =YHWH=YAHWEH (The Son). Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thy enemies thy footstool. Even Peter in his first sermon quoted from this text explaining about David who also was a prophet (Acts 2:30) but David was dead, and really Who this scripture was speaking of, as Whom the Messiah really was (See Acts 2:29-37).

It is no wonder these people were cut to the heart (Acts 2:37) when they understood that YAHSHUA was actually YAHWEH THE SON! It is also no wonder that the Pharisees were dumbfounded when Messiah YAHSHUA asked them these questions from Psalms 110:1-5!

Shaul (Paul) also quotes (Psalms 110:1-5) in (Heb. 1:9-14) proving that Messiah is YAHWEH the Father’s right hand in creating from the beginning (See Jn. 1:1-14), and that Messiah is not as an ordinary angelic being as Messiah inherited a more excellent name than they (What was that more excellent name?). The Messiah was and is YAHWEHSHUA the Son= YAH (3050, 3068 short for YAHWEH) SHUA (3467 meaning SAVIOR which gives us 3091), He is not the Father YAHWEH, but YAHWEH the Son, as both the Father and the Son have the same name in scriptures. (See also "The Scriptures" version on this text in Tehillim 110:1-5).Do you realize when Peter explained this text in Acts 2:27-39 it converted about 3,000 souls?

Eliyah C.

**Eliyah** · 09-25-2009, 03:03 AM

A Witness Of YAH-SHUA- YAH-SAVIOR In Scriptures.

It is no wonder these people were cut to the heart (Acts 2:37) when they understood that YAHSHUA was actually YAHWEH THE SON! It is also no wonder that the Pharisees were dumbfounded when Messiah YAHSHUA asked them these questions from Psalms 110:1-5!

Shaul (Paul) also quotes (Psalms 110:1-5) in (Heb. 1:9-14) proving that Messiah is YAHWEH the Father’s right hand in creating from the beginning (See Jn. 1:1-14), and that Messiah is not as an ordinary angelic being as Messiah inherited a more excellent name than they (What was that more excellent name?). The Messiah was and is YAHWEHSHUA the Son= YAH (3050, 3068 short for YAHWEH) SHUA (3467 meaning SAVIOR which gives us 3091), He is not the Father YAHWEH, but YAHWEH the Son, as both the Father and the Son have the same name in scriptures. (See also "The Scriptures" version on this text in Tehillim 110:1-5).

The Stone Of Stumbling Set At Naught Of The Builders.

The Apostle Peter absolutely understood this truth of scriptures as explained above, because in (Acts 2:21) Peter in his first sermon again quoted verbatim from the Prophet Joel 2:32 which says, "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call upon the name (singular form) of hvhy YHWH- i.e. YAHWEH (Remember, that the English versions use capitol LORD in substitute for YHWH) SHALL BE SAVED. Then, in (Acts 4:10-12) Peter uses the name (singular form again) of YAH-SHUA= iwvhy in verse 10, and in verse 11 Peter refers to the stone which was set at naught of you builders, which has become the head of the corner, compare this with (Isa. 8:14 What is His Name?; Dan. 2:34-35, 45) combined with (Psalms 118:22-29; Matt. 21:42; Mark 12:10; Luke 20:17-18), then in (Acts 4:12) Peter says, " Neither is there salvation in any other (Name or Person): for there is none other name (Again name is in singular form) under heaven given among men, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.

Question: Can there be two names in singular form, we must call upon, and SHALL BE SAVED of YAHWEH (Acts 2:21; Joel 2:32) or whereby WE MUST BE SAVED (Acts 4:10-12) of YAH-SAVIOR= YAHSHUA= YAHWEHSHUA, unless we understand that both names mean the one and the same? How else can you make (Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21) and (Acts 4:10-12) harmonize, unless you understand, that Peter understood both names to mean the same, in order to receive salvation, and remission of sins? Otherwise, these texts contradict each other, and we know that Peter never contradicted himself in the same breath (Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21) as compared to (Acts 2:29-37) and (Acts 4:10-12).

Notice that you have the same two names situation with Shaul (Paul) as with Peter, and Paul also quoted verbatim from the Prophet (Joel 2:32, in Romans 10:13). Notice first Paul quotes from (Isa. 8:14) in (Rom. 9:32 Who is this Stone and Rock? It is YAHWEH the Son.) the Stone of stumbling, and Rock of offence, then, notice the word of faith (Rom. 10:8-9) of quote "That if thou shall confess with thy mouth the Master YAH-SHUA, and shall believe in thy heart (mind) that Elohim hath raised Him from the dead, thou shall be saved. (Rom. 10:9 but read through up to Rom. 10:13). Notice the bold underlined in this text, then compare it with, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of YAHWEH shall be saved (Rom. 10:13). Again, did Shaul (Paul ) also contradict himself in the same breath as Peter did? No! Shaul also understood Who Messiah really was and Who He really is- He is YHWH our righteousness.

Who Is Called The Rock In Scriptures?

"Because I (Moses- who also was a prophet) will publish the name of YAHWEH, ascribe you greatness to our Elohim. He is the Rock, His work is perfect,….(Deut. 32:3-4). You will also read of the witness of Samuel the Prophet, of Hannah that called YAHWEH A ROCK (See 1 Sam. 2:2). You will read again from Samuel the prophet, that David spoke to YAHWEH and said, " YAHWEH is my Rock, my fortress and my deliverer, the HORN OF MY SALVATION, and SAVIOR (2 Sam. 22:1-4, See also 2 Sam. 22:32,47; 2 Sam. 23:3) See also Psalms 18:2; Psalms 62:2, 6-7. Shaul (Paul) also proves this to be true, when he said, " And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Messiah. (1 Cor. 10:4) You will read of this in Ex. 17:2-6.

The Two YHWH’S In Scriptures.

You will read of TWO YHWH'S- i.e. TWO YAHWEH’s in scriptures. First you will read that Abraham spoke with YAHWEH face to face in Exodus Chapter 18, then, you will read, " Then YAHWEH (The Son) rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from YAHWEH (The Father) out of Heaven (See Genesis 19:24 under the TWO capitol LORD‘S, in that verse, in the traditional English translations. See also Psalms 110:1-5; Isaiah 44:6)

What Was The Name John The Baptizer proclaimed?

Please note first what Messiah Himself said of John The Baptizer, "But what went you out for to see? A Prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet. For this is he (John the Baptizer), of whom it is written (in scriptures- See Mal. 3:1). Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee (The Messiah) See Matt. 11:9-10; Luke 7:26-27.

Also compare Matt. 17:10-13 with the PROPHET Mal. 3:1. concerning John the Baptizer coming in the ministry or spirit and power of Eliyah (Elijah) the Prophet, to prepare the way before the Messiah. The prophet Malachi 4:5 gives witness of the name of hvhy YHWH- i.e. YAHWEH (under the capitol ‘the LORD’ in the traditional English versions).

John the Baptizer said quote: "I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of YHWH hvhy YAHWEH (The Name of YHWH=YAHWEH is substituted with ‘the LORD’ in the traditional English versions), as said Isaiah the prophet (See John 1:23; Luke 3:4; Mark 1:3; Matt. 3:3).

John The Baptizer quoted directly from the Prophet Isaiah 40:3, where Isaiah the prophet said, "Prepare ye the way of hvhy YHWH-i.e. YAHWEH….(The traditional English versions substitutes capitol ‘the LORD’ for YAHWEH ).

Even the angel Gabriel will bare witness and testimony to this same fact of scripture, that John the Baptizer would go before the Messiah, and proclaim the Name of YAHWEH, in Luke 1:26; 1:70-76.

Eliyah C.

**Eliyah** · 09-25-2009, 03:09 AM

A Witness Of YAH-SHUA- YAH-SAVIOR In Scriptures.

Who And What Is The Name Of The SAVIOR According To Scriptures?

In Matt. 1:21 of the Old king James Version it reads quote: "And she shall bring forth a Son, and thou shall call His name** 3 **______________ (What?): for He shall save His people from their sins. Also, Matt. 1:23. They shall call His name Emmanuel or El is with man or El is with us (See John 1:1-14).

If you look in the "center reference margin" of the O.K.J.V. of Matt. 1:21 you will see a ""3"" and it says, "THAT IS SAVIOR". So it actually says, "shall call His name SAVIOR"

The title of "SAVIOR" in Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary is number 3467, and if you go to Strong’s 3091 iwvhy which is the Messiah’s name, it is from 3068 see also 3050 (YHWH=YAHWEH) and 3467 (Ya(h)sha = yaw--and means SAVIOR) as Hebrew is read from "right to left" then you will see the first three Hebrew letters of Messiah’s name is the same first three Hebrew letters that is in the Father’s Name of YHWH hvhy Number 3068 when read from right to left.

You will also see from the short form name of YAH - yaw- YAHH is defined in Strong's Exhaustive Concordance by number 3050 hy YAHH -yaw- contraction for 03068, and meaning the same, the sacred (saving) name, see names ending with "iah" or "jah."

As you can see, this short form name of "YAH" that appears in scriptures about 50 times is in the Son’s name as it is in the Father’s name also, however, this is not all, if you look at Strong’s Hebrew number 3467 (which means SAVIOR) of Yasha - yaw- you will notice a "yaw" sound prefix the same prefix of yaw-shah , this is the same YAW that is in the sound prefix of YAH-yaw of 3050 the "H" is silent in Ya(h)sha. Also notice on pages 47 and 48 of Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary, 1985 edition, you will also see that all names beginning with "Yeh" and ending with Iah or Jah are actually "YAH" by looking again at the first and last three Hebrew letters when you read them from "right to left" without the ‘point markings’, and the ending Iah or Jah letters of the names. What about the name of "YESHUA"? This is Strong’s Hebrew number 3442 and Strong’s says is for 3091 again pointing us back to the original YAH SAVIOR.

Who and what is the NAME of the SAVIOR according to the scriptures of Isaiah the prophet? See Isaiah 45:17; Isaiah 45:21 of YHWH- i.e. YAHWEH, (under the capitol LORD in the traditional English versions).Who and what is the NAME of the REDEEMER? See Isaiah 44:24 of YAHWEH, (under capitol ‘the LORD’ in the traditional English versions).

Who is the BRANCH in Zechariah 6:12-13, and what is His Name really called according to Jeremiah the prophet? YHWH- i.e. YAHWEH our Righteousness. See Jeremiah 23:5-6. Who and what name is the Holy One that Peter mentioned in Acts 2:27; Acts 3:14? Read of His Name as YHWH i.e.- YAHWEH, under the capitol LORD in the traditional English versions, in Jeremiah 50:29, 51:5; See also Isaiah 48:17; Isaiah 49:7; Isaiah 54:5.

What Is The Name Of Him Whose Feet Will Stand On The Mount Of Olives?

Compare Acts 1:10-12 with Zechariah the prophet 14:3-4 which says, "Then shall YHWH- i.e. YAHWEH go forth and fight against those nations, as when He fought in the day of battle, and His (YAHWEH’s) feet shall stand in that day upon the MOUNT OF OLIVES...

All the prophets in all the scriptures give witness and testimony, explicitly as both Messiah (Luke 24:44), Peter (Acts 10:43) as the true Messiah and His Name as YAHWEH SAVIOR or YAH SAVIOR i.e.- YAH-SHUA. Please prove to yourself any prophet in the scriptures, that give record witness, for the real Messiah's Name as being Jesus? The Messiah said, that He inherited all things from the Father, that included His Father's Name also. What is the Name of Him that is called the first and the last, and the Aleph and Omega?

See, read and compare of the two YAHWEH’s again in Isaiah 44:6, and compare with Revelation 1:8; Revelation 1:11; Revelation 21:6; Revelation 22:13. All the Prophets do not give witness to the Messiah and His Name as being Jesus or any other Name but YAH (WEH) SHUA or YAH-SHUA.

Who Is The Word?

In the beginning was the Word (YAHWEH the Son), and the Word (YAHWEH the Son) was with ElOHIM (YAHWEH the Father), and the Word (YAHWEH the Son) was Elohim. The same (The Word- YAHWEH the Son) was in the beginning with Elohim (YAHWEH the Father). All things were made by (or through) Him (YAHWEH the Son); and without Him (YAHWEH the Son) was not anything made that was made. In Him (YAHWEH the Son) was life; and the life was the light of men…..He (YAHWEH the Son) was in the world, and the world was made by (or through) Him (YAHWEH the Son), and the world knew Him (YAHWEH the Son) not. He (YAHWEH the Son) came unto His (YAHWEH the Son’s) own, and His (YAHWEH the Son’s) own received Him (YAHWEH the Son) not….And the Word (YAHWEH the Son) was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His (the Word-YAHWEH the Son) majesty, the majesty as of the only begotten of the Father-YAHWEH) full of grace and truth. Compare this with John 1:1-14, and remember to look in the prophets who said, "The Word of YAHWEH came unto me saying…" Now you know Who really was the Word of YAHWEH that came to the prophets of old.

Our SAVIOR said, "And the Father (YAHWEH) Himself, which hath sent Me (The Messiah- YAH-SHUA), hath borne witness of Me (Him the Messiah--See John 5:37). Selah- stop and think, the Father YAHWEH had to have a Son before, or the Father could not had sent Him in flesh into the world. Do you realize how many times in John’s Epistle where the words "hath sent me" appears? Now back to John 5:37 for the rest of "Ye have neither heard His (YAHWEH the Father’s) voice at any time, nor seen His (The Father YAHWEH’s) shape (John 1:18; John 5:37). Why? Because the Father is Spirit (John 4:24) and He is invisible (1 Tim. 1:17). Now to Whom did the Patriarchs of old speak to and see? It was YAHWEH the Son, the Word, the very same who later became the SAVIOR- the Messiah YAH-SHUA, and how simple to understand, YAH is short (3050,3068- for the same name He inherited from the Father YAHWEH) and SHUA (3467) for SAVIOR. It’s no wonder that the Apostles were forbidden to preach this, and no wonder they were murdered, imprisoned, and persecuted. However, the true SAVIOR also prophesied that we will be hated of all Nations for His true Name sake.

The Apostles knew and understood this, and true enough as Peter stated in (Acts 10:43) of all the prophets do bare witness of the Messiah, and look above at what a cloud of witnesses there be that prove this! For whosoever shall call on the Name of YAHWEH or YAH SAVIOR YAH-SHUA shall be saved Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Acts 4:10-12; Romans 10:13. But how can the common people call on Him of Whom they have never heard or understood His true Name? And how shall they confess His true Name to others, if they have not been told His true Name? Then, how shall they receive remission of sins, and receive salvation, unless those of us who know His true Name boldly proclaims it to the common people? May YAHWEH the Father grant us the boldness to proclaim His truth. HalleluYAH!

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Eliyah C.

**Spying** · 10-01-2009, 07:26 AM

Is the Resurrected Messiah Yahushua YAHWEH?

Hi EliYah,

Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

It is good to hear from you. I see that you are still 1/2 way up the mountain.

When I look at the Word of YAHWEH edition, I see that in Romans 10:9 the Greek phrase, Kurios Iesous (Kurion Iesoun, accusative case), is translated in that edition: "Master Yahshua".

When you quote that verse, you substitute the phrase, "Messiah Yahshua". I suppose that perhaps alternate readings of that phrase do exist. I mean to say that perhaps we can find Greek texts of this verse which have the full title: "Kurion Iesoun Christon (Greek accusative case)" so you would be justified in using "Messiah Yahshua".

What I do not like is your removal of the title: "KURIOS" from your quote of the verse.

When I examine the Septuagint or the Greek Translation of the Hebrew Scriptures, I see that "KURIOS" is used to translate "YAHWEH".

Furthermore, when I examine Romans 10:13 in the Word of YAHWEH edition, "YAHWEH" is used in the place of KURIOS (gen. KURIOU) as indicated in the Greek Translations of Joel 2:32.

This all leads me to ask if you have been saved by calling upon the NAME of YAHWEH, or have you been saved by calling upon the NAME of Messiah Yahshua?

I confess that Messiah Yahushua is my YAHWEH.

Do you also say that Messiah Yahshua is your YAHWEH (1 Corinthians 12:3)?

Thanking you in advance for your reply, I am,

Sincerely, Spying

**Eliyah** · 04-14-2012, 12:11 PM

Greetings Spying, and I am a Hebrew

Greetings brother Spying and brother I Am a Hebrew, Shabbat shalom, it's been a long time, I pray everyone is well. Blessings to you all also through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

I still have Loami forums listed as number one on my websites, I highly recommend this forum to others, but it seems the masses don't want truth of scriptures, they still follow traditions of men.

Please, I'm plain old " Eliyah C. " with a lower case " y " apart from the other " EliYah " whose real name is Tom M.

I have often been asked: " Why I use my real Hebrew name, instead of a screen name? " It is NOT because I want to be in the forefront ( to be honest I don't want to be in the forefront), it is because I'm truely honest with people ( No not bragging) merely truthful; the other reason being, because those of us who teach the true name of YAHWEH is substituted with the word " LORD " is a falsehood, then we should not practice falsehoods with our name either. But, if people want to do that, it is between them and Yahweh. Besides, if anyone wants to find a person, all they have to do is track their IP address, so why hide my name.

You asked:

When I examine the Septuagint or the Greek Translation of the Hebrew Scriptures, I see that "KURIOS" is used to translate "YAHWEH".

Furthermore, when I examine Romans 10:13 in the Word of YAHWEH edition, "YAHWEH" is used in the place of KURIOS (gen. KURIOU) as indicated in the Greek Translations of Joel 2:32.

This all leads me to ask if you have been saved by calling upon the NAME of YAHWEH, or have you been saved by calling upon the NAME of Messiah Yahshua?

I confess that Messiah Yahushua is my YAHWEH.

I merely followed the Hebrew text where Shaul( Paul) quoted this verbatim from the prophet Joel 2:32 the same as Kepha( Peter) did in Acts 2:21, to provide clarity to the reader, and that both Apostles applied these texts to Messiah. Also, if you call upon ONE which is YAHWEH, you call upon them both. He that hath the Father, hath also the Son, and if a person denies ONE, that person also denies the other. Remember?

Do you know, I put a part of this up as a question on EliYah's forum, and most of them could not even understand it, let alone answer the questions. I presented this at the Unity Conference in Rochport MO in 2009, the people were astonished, because they have over read these scriptures thousands of times, and never noticed it like this before.

Yahweh the Father bless and keep you all through Messiah YAHU'SHUA=Yahwehshua,

Eliyah C.

**Spying** · 04-18-2012, 11:28 AM

Messiah Yahushua, The Restored YAHWEH ELOHIM!

Hi Eliyah,

Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

Thank you for your response and your kind words about Lo Ammi! You are correct, it is a surprisingly difficult process to help people understand that Messiah Yahushua HIMSELF is YAHWEH! I have personally been working with several people explaining that the resurrected Messiah Yahushua is the exact representation and reproduction (restoration) of what YAHWEH ELOHIM was before HaSatan's rebellion destroyed the unity of YAHWEH ELOHIM from the Beginning (see John 8:44)! This difficulty arises because people think about YAHWEH, the Father, and Yahushua, the Son, solely in human terms. They cannot grasp this fact that the human father/son relationship is only a physical image or a physical shadow of a spiritual Entity. To assert that YAHWEH ELOHIM has a Son, the only begotten Son, is to say that YAHWEH has gone to the process of duplicating HIMSELF, and, therefore, the resurrected Messiah Yahushua is now the restored YAHWEH. Through this process, HaSatan has been replaced, and YAHWEH has restored to HIMSELF everything that was once lost.

Messiah Yahushua united all spirit with HIMSELF through HIS Cross, and then all that spirit was reunited with HIS physical body in the grave to prove that all spirit is now again HIS personal possession as the Word of ELOHIM demands. There exists no spirit outside the ultimate control of Messiah Yahushua, and this is why HaSatan knows that he has already flatlined, and why he has great wrath because he no longer has any authority over his own spirit.

Anyways, it was good to hear from you again. Say hello to you wife for me!

Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,

Sincerely, Latuwr

**Eliyah** · 07-07-2012, 10:30 AM

You are absolutely correct!

Greetings A.B. sorry to be so late in replying, i've had a lot to do.
Thank you, Yes, you are correct, and you want get any disagreement from me. One of the reasons people don't understand, is because people lack faith in the Heavenly Father, Messiah, and the scriptures, another reason, they don't love the same above or lack thereof, and lack of love for the scriptures also. The scriptures are really alive, and they retain the words of eternal life.

For example:The real name of Messiah is the name of faith. What is faith, some would probably ask. Faith is the substance of things not seen, and only those with the spirit of Messiah dwelling within them, will have the mind of Messiah, and can discern spiritual things, even in the scriptural writings, so it is also with Messiah's name YahwehShua ie Yah-Savior, He represented, revealed the Father in the holy scriptures, came to earth born in human flesh as a man, bore mankinds sins-He became a curse to save mankind, was tormented, put to death, rose again, and returned back where He came from,and inherited the same name of power and honor. This is why Kepha( Peter), Shaul( Paul) applied the holy scriptural texts to Messiah, and said that He inherited the more excellent name that is above every other name. Do people think that He is any less than He was before? Many must do, this is because they lack the spirit, faith and love, and without these a person is still in the flesh, and Messiah is the door we must go through to get to the Father, He holds the keys of life and death.

Yes you are absolutely correct, I agree with you whole hearted, He is reconcilling all things back, we are told this also! Finally, another man who really understands!

Yea, I still live half way upon the mountain, and anyone who comes here, must first go to the top of the mountain, then turn around, come back half way down the mountain to get to my home. Also, when they leave, they must go back again the second time to the top of the mountain, turn around again, before they can leave and go back home.

You are the first person out of many who have been here to really take note of that also. And you do remember what that reminds us both of too.

Something has been bothering my mind though, and I must tell you the truth. Remember you wanted to know how I knew your name? I must repent, I fibbed to you for a season or few, when you were here, because I thought then, that if I had told you Who really gave me your personal name, I thought that you would think I was nuts. Please forgive me, also forgive me for divulging that same personal information on the computer then too.

My wife told me after you left that day, that I should have told you the truth, and I should have. That has bothered my mind ever since, and now it seem well with the Holy Spirit. I don't think you coming here was for nothing, and now I know the purpose. You have made great strides spiritually in Messiah, and don't let anyone hinder or take your crown.

May YAHWEH bless and keep you and your family A.B.

E.C.

**Spying** · 07-11-2012, 11:53 AM

Faith, Hope, & Love In The Restoration!

Hi Eliyah,

Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

Thank you! YAHWEH ELOHIM is no less in HIS Renewal than HE was before He endured loss. If you take from YAHWEH, YAHWEH will seek that which is lost until HE recovers what has been lost. YAHWEH lost a significant portion of HIS Spirit through the rebellion of HaSatan. Man (Adam & Eve) were created as snares for HaSatan. YAHWEH is mindful of us because it is our purpose to be spirit catchers. We are spirit traps!

Since the rebellion of HaSatan, spirit has been divided into two camps, good and evil. In recovering or taking back all the spirit of HaSatan, YAHWEH does not seek that evil spirit should return to HIM as evil. YAHWEH, therefore, in recovering HIS spirit had the task of transforming all that the evil spirit into good spirit.

This transformation involves a number of processes. Allow me to name a few. There exists purification. There exists reconciliation. There exists redemption. There exists atonement. There exists sanctification. All of these are lawful processes outlined and spelled out by the Law.

In the fulfillment of the Law, three enduring things are required: Faith, Hope, and Love! The most enduring of the three is love, and love is nothing other than the fulfilling of the Law (see Romans 13:10).

So, I am inclined to say that all three are involved in expressing the Sacred Name of YAHWEH. No, allow me to take that back with additional comment. The Sacred Name of YAHWEH is the activity of all three according to a certain plan of restoration and renewal. This certain plan is the Word of YAHWEH. So, the Sacred Name of YAHWEH is ALL the Expressed Word of YAHWEH activated by Faith, Hope , and Love.

I have no recollection of asking you how you knew that my name was Allen Brown. If you told me a lie, then I, because of your confession, completely forgive that lie, and I hold nothing to your charge. Will you allow me to be curious? What was the lie that you told me, and how did you know my name?

Thanking you in advance when you should be moved to reply, I am,

Sincerely, Latuwr

**Eliyah** · 03-31-2019, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by Spying View Post

Hi Eliyah,

Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

Thank you! YAHWEH ELOHIM is no less in HIS Renewal than HE was before He endured loss. If you take from YAHWEH, YAHWEH will seek that which is lost until HE recovers what has been lost. YAHWEH lost a significant portion of HIS Spirit through the rebellion of HaSatan. Man (Adam & Eve) were created as snares for HaSatan. YAHWEH is mindful of us because it is our purpose to be spirit catchers. We are spirit traps!

Since the rebellion of HaSatan, spirit has been divided into two camps, good and evil. In recovering or taking back all the spirit of HaSatan, YAHWEH does not seek that evil spirit should return to HIM as evil. YAHWEH, therefore, in recovering HIS spirit had the task of transforming all that the evil spirit into good spirit.

This transformation involves a number of processes. Allow me to name a few. There exists purification. There exists reconciliation. There exists redemption. There exists atonement. There exists sanctification. All of these are lawful processes outlined and spelled out by the Law.

In the fulfillment of the Law, three enduring things are required: Faith, Hope, and Love! The most enduring of the three is love, and love is nothing other than the fulfilling of the Law (see Romans 13:10).

So, I am inclined to say that all three are involved in expressing the Sacred Name of YAHWEH. No, allow me to take that back with additional comment. The Sacred Name of YAHWEH is the activity of all three according to a certain plan of restoration and renewal. This certain plan is the Word of YAHWEH. So, the Sacred Name of YAHWEH is ALL the Expressed Word of YAHWEH activated by Faith, Hope , and Love.

I have no recollection of asking you how you knew that my name was Allen Brown. If you told me a lie, then I, because of your confession, completely forgive that lie, and I hold nothing to your charge. Will you allow me to be curious? What was the lie that you told me, and how did you know my name?

Thanking you in advance when you should be moved to reply, I am,

Sincerely, Latuwr

Spying,

I told you a fib because I thought ye would not believe me, so I did not tell you, so I'm telling you now how I knew your name before we ever met, it was Yah's Holy Spirit that told me.

**Eliyah** · 03-31-2019, 05:04 PM

I brought this thread back up because the scriptures given in it will prove that the Deity of Old Testament scriptures is Messiah and His name is YAH.

**LucySmith** · 03-31-2019, 11:48 PM

spying posted this

YAHWEH is ALL the Expressed Word of YAHWEH activated by Faith, Hope , and Love.

the true facts are
God YAH/YHWH is recorded in the Bible as having personally killed a large number of people.
The majority of the divine assassinations certainly took place during God's YHWH time as the notoriously vengeful deity in the Old Testament,

CONSIDER THIS
If the Old Testament had been marketed as a horror story — like a Stephen King novel — we might think differently

however
the real horror story — is the one that made Nietzsche say he needed to put on gloves before reading it
— is that those O.T. writers were not pretending. And neither were the readers.
Today, anyone who takes the Old Testament seriously — and does not wince at the gratuitous splattering of blood — is a troubled person.

ARE KEN SPYING ELIJAH = TROUBLED MEN =YES FROM THEIR TESTIMONY ON L.A. with lives to prove it so.. very dysfunctional VERSE QUOTERS

IT IS ESTIMATED some 20,000,000 people were murdered under YHWH 's ''faith hope and love'' ministry

solution to your unbelief???
why not do your own research to find the true facts on this great O.T. deception??????

**Eliyah** · 04-02-2019, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by LucySmith View Post

the true facts are
God YAH/YHWH is recorded in the Bible as having personally killed a large number of people.
The majority of the divine assassinations certainly took place during God's YHWH time as the notoriously vengeful deity in the Old Testament,

CONSIDER THIS
If the Old Testament had been marketed as a horror story — like a Stephen King novel — we might think differently

however
the real horror story — is the one that made Nietzsche say he needed to put on gloves before reading it
— is that those O.T. writers were not pretending. And neither were the readers.
Today, anyone who takes the Old Testament seriously — and does not wince at the gratuitous splattering of blood — is a troubled person.

ARE KEN SPYING ELIJAH = TROUBLED MEN =YES FROM THEIR TESTIMONY ON L.A. with lives to prove it so.. very dysfunctional VERSE QUOTERS

IT IS ESTIMATED some 20,000,000 people were murdered under YHWH 's ''faith hope and love'' ministry

solution to your unbelief???
why not do your own research to find the true facts on this great O.T. deception??????

Lucy,

You wouldn't even know a scriptural fact, you believe and live by your own conjured up false ideas about the scriptures, as your modern men masters do also.

**Eliyah** · 04-02-2019, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by Eliyah View Post

Lucy,

You wouldn't even know a scriptural fact, you believe and live by your own conjured up false ideas about the scriptures, as your modern men masters do also.

Yah Messiah Himself said speaking to the devil.

It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God/Yah. Matthew 4:4; See also Luke 4:4; Deuteronomy 8:3.

Messiah Himself says, that we are NOT to live by Him the True Bread alone, but also by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of YAH, and that is the law and the scriptures.

Messiah NEVER said, to live by your own conjured up thoughts and ideas ABOUT the word of Yah.

**LucySmith** · 04-02-2019, 08:35 PM

Elijah i was thinking

THE 3 RELIGIOUS AMIGOS,
aka - posters on L A. CAN HAVE your own special religious ''SECT''
hurrah hurrah

[I can see it now - with a prophetic eye sight.]
hurrah

OFCOURSE NOT CALLED ''CHRISTIAN''= nope
NOT CALLED THE Tzaddik! - nope

the 3 amigos new sect name

''the WOE BRETHREN''

and advertise it as

JOIN US for your adventure into all manner of religious curses and woes !
- we specialise in woes and bible deception as we are expert at twisting verses and making up our own unbelievable very religious ideas.
So join us and be blessed with curses and woes and be a captive to death.,
we are SIN-cere in our offer regarding this new theme.

PS
we are not a ''sect''
we are not a ''church''
we are not an ''assembly''
we are not a ''temple''
we are not a ''mosque''
we are not a ''synagogue''
or
any other assorted names of religious places of unholy worships - no no no....

we are a new religious club opening and known as - THE WOE BRETHREN.
BTW
we SPECIALISE in death, sickness, poverty, marriage breakdowns, sexual issues, dysfunctional family, strife, if you wish to have these curses in your life join us and become a true captive to the law of Moses.

Announcement

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