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  • HAVING the wonderfull ability to say ''NO''

    there is a local Ad. on the TV, of a beautifull young girl, and the peer pressure put on her by others to do ALL MANNER OF Wrong things and how
    she stops and thinks and then says to all the others a DEFINATE !!!!!NO~!!!!!!

    HOWEVER
    while she is MAKING UP HER MIND, her imagination switches to show other scenes of life ~so~ she sees in her mind's eye herself TO BE the first young girl to climb Mt. Everest succssfully, then she sees HERSELF receiving the gold medals in the Olympics for swimming and breaking records, etc.
    She sees herself as a champion, in everything she did, rather than a victim!

    I was looking at this Ad, and i got to thinking how WE NEED THE DIVINE ABILITY TO SAY '''NO''' so that LIFE Now [John 11 v 25-26] of Our Saviour begins to POUR INTO us, [as His vessel of living waters] and vanity becomes defeated.

    Today i was in the mountains for breakfast, as i walked to the cafe, just after seeing this ad. on the TV, i heard all the birds begin to sing-frankly it seemed like a choir as they were all in tune and i thought '' i wonder if, even the birds in the trees Know and understand LIFE NOW, and the lifting of vanity and rejoice?

    These Birds were so musically like calling to each other and in my vague memory i remembering hearing how ALL LIFE, REJOICES when confronted with TRUE LIFE, !!!

    Somehow i dont believe vanity just passes in a flash, but it is rolled back like a scroll...gradually revealing!
    i.e.
    LIKE THE DAWNING OF A NEW DAY..... transition is ending...... and perfection is arriving [type of thing]

    The ability to say A divine NO! - is part of THE OVERCOMER'S TESTIMONY
    Rev 12. v 11.
    UMMM.

    i could write Please?

    ''AS we overcome all things In Christ, we are being blessed with the divine ability to say NO!!!! to all things purposely allowed and sent to kill us''


    the CHAMPIONS.....those who are dying daily to being a robot to their fallen natures.

    I know Messiah must of SAID NO!!! MANY TIMES daily as He follwed only the Father's will and ended up being WELL PLEASING like Enoch.

    WELL PLEASING seems to make transformation/translation possible.
    and WELL PLEASING is the ability to SAY NO..... TO everything the fallen nature in us desires from us. The ONE OBJECT of the fallen nature is to DESTROY!!!!

    i think i will look into these words
    WELL PLEASING''!


    BTW
    i heard yesterday that my son and his mate in the greenery business have gained a market in the USA.
    so when ye receive some flowers, perhaps the greenery shall be hand done by 'Lucy'..
    i dont receive pay for bunching green, i do it for love.



    CONT

  • #2
    2 words a Believer longs to hear are = WELL pleased.

    to be well pleased.

    to obey a parent in all things is to be well pleasing
    euarestos -grk word
    1) it seems good to one, is one's good pleasure

    a) think it good, choose, determine, decide

    b) to do willingly

    c) to be ready to, to prefer, choose rather

    2) to be well pleased with, take pleasure in, to be favourably inclined towards one

    2Pe 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
    both Enoch and Yahushua were this well pleasing?

    1] ready to please
    2] took pleasure in pleasing
    3] agreeable to
    4] inclined towards
    5] willing.


    how good do these words look TO A BELIEVER'S eyes!

    these words were spoken over Enoch and Messiah - and transformation and translation happened.

    They have a TESTIMONY they are well pleasing.

    Their 'testimony'' is their life.
    Their life is their ''testimony''.

    They cannot be anything other than THEIR TESTIMONY.
    ok


    ''THEIR TESTIMONY WAS THEIR ABILITY TO SAY NO!
    so
    RATHER THAN BE A VICTIM OF A robotic FALLEN NATURE, THEY WERE VICTORIOUS over it for they had been EMPOWERED TO DEFEAT IT, cuz they proved they were well pleasing''



    now.......THEY realised to say no! to the power of their enemy, was to become limitless in the realm of THE SPIRIT.

    wait....i write this again to absorb it.

    THEY realised to say no! to the power of their enemy, was to become limitless in the realm of THE SPIRIT.
    THEY realised to say no! to the power of their enemy, was to become limitless in the realm of THE SPIRIT.
    THEY realised to say no! to the power of their enemy, was to become limitless in the realm of THE SPIRIT.


    ummm that is good

    by learning to say NO! the divine power rents the veil of vanity and allows the unlimited life to pour in.
    but also
    ummmmmmmmmm????????

    but having this divine ability to say NO! pulls down satan's power.

    ohhhhh YES!!!
    again let me write this to understand it better

    oh!! i like this!!!

    but having this divine ability to say NO! pulls down satan's power.
    but having this divine ability to say NO! pulls down satan's power.
    but having this divine ability to say NO! pulls down satan's power.
    the divine ability to say NO! in a group of believer's shall put down satan from the heavenlies....yes!!!!
    why?
    cuz the POWERBASE/STRONGHOLDS have been fractured.

    and so at the ''sound of the trumpet'' - a loud noise fells satan as it did THE WALLS OF JERICHO.


    wowowow i like this!!!!
    the trumpet is THE LIFE BEARING MESSENGERS..... FOR true LIFE DEFEATS the abomination of desolation -DEATH.

    yes!!!
    so what a believer is doing now is learning how to SAY NO and to be a LIFE CHAMPION....JUST AS ENOCH WAS and ummmmm who else.

    let us consider
    who is would be a LIFE CHAMPION.....immortals.
    can we get a list

    ??????????????????????????????????/?????



    Enoch
    Elijah
    Caleb
    Shadrach
    Meshach
    Abednego
    Yahushua Messiah
    Apostle John
    Mother Mary
    Lazarus??????????[remains alive but died previously]
    all those who came out from their graves the day of the cross [ but died previously]????
    Mark John.
    un-named disciples...the bible is silent over their fate.

    added to the list is...............??????? the few who find eternal life

    now we reminded ETERNAL LIFE IS A GIFT.....is it to these only who are ''well pleasing''?
    what say ye?

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    • #3
      cont, i wish to investigate this concept.....[recap?]

      and so at the ''sound of the trumpet'' - a loud noise fells satan as it did THE WALLS OF JERICHO.


      wowowow i like this!!!!
      the trumpet is THE LIFE BEARING MESSENGERS [the 7stars]..... FOR true LIFE DEFEATS the abomination of desolation -DEATH.

      what have we here to 'see''

      the trumpet sounds - the LIFE MESSENGERS tell of ''THE''' LIFE - the GIFT OF EVERLASTING LIFE from Yahushua Messiah = THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL.

      that is ''THE TRUMP''.
      now

      i want to get to understand the ''fracturing'' of satan's kingdom by allowing cracks to appear in his stronghold and defenses.


      I love this word ....fracturing.....cuz it reminds of a wine glass smashing at a high frequency sound .

      fracture/smashed/fallen/defeated


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECNDpCYvaOc
      this is exactly what happened at Jericho.
      I know this is how it happened - it was the marching/ the trumpet sound/ the vibrations fractured the walls and they impoded.

      in Jos. 6 v 20
      we see it was the priests, that blew the trumpet!
      could this by a type relating to
      The Priests ordained to the Order of Melchidezeck?= THE ORDER OF ENDLESS LIFE + trumpeting OF John 11 v 25-26 - meaning RESURRECTION LIFE NOW AVAILABLE TO THE FEW WHO ARE WELL PLEASING AS A GIFT FROM THEIR EVERLASTING FATHER?????????????????????????


      did ye hear the WhyGuy when he was doing the demonstration of the breaking of the wine glass, that the sound got louder and louder..... and in this demonstration it broke at 7-10am.

      BN - no 7 = perfection
      BN - no 10 - responsibility of the Word of God.

      How the WhyGuy did this seemed a modern day example of exactly what happened at Jericho - the city of Psalms..

      notice...the sound begins small and grows louder in vibration till the noise of the vibration shatters ~!
      fracturing a stronghold that once was a kingdom of destruction begins within first - then radiates outwards so that REAL LIFE APPEARS, that will swallow up all manner of death~!
      amen

      DEATH TO DEATH!!!


      Lest!
      A believer feel they are unable to be a champion and say NO over all things that hinder them and their progress, do not be afraid we have an Avocate -"Because thou hast KEPT the WORD of My patience, I also WILL KEEP THEE FROM THE HOUR OF TEMPTATION, which shall come upon all the world TO TRY THEM THAT DWELL UPON THE EARTH." (Rev. 3:10).


      kept from temptation!!! ''kept''
      : to take notice of by appropriate conduct
      : fulfill
      : to be faithful to
      : to act fittingly
      : to stay in accord with
      : preserve, maintain
      : to watch over and defend : to take care of
      : tend
      : support
      : to maintain in a good, fitting, or orderly condition
      : to continue to maintain
      : to cause to remain in a given place, situation, or condition
      : to preserve in an unspoiled condition



      the Good Shepherd always looks after His sheep.-They shall not want

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      • #4
        cont...PREDESTINATED [to discover it's secret]

        Predestinated- [proorizo] means - to limit or to arrange in advance
        To determine beforehand,

        now!found in the word predestinated is another word Adept
        i love how we can dig into words and find their secrets

        Adept.
        : a highly skilled or well-trained individual
        : thoroughly proficient
        : expert
        : proficient, adept, skilled, skillful, expert .

        mean- having great knowledge and experience.

        proficient -implies a thorough competence derived from training and practice.

        adept- implies special aptitude as well as proficiency.

        skilled -stresses mastery of technique.

        expert- implies extraordinary proficiency and often connotes knowledge as well as technical skill.
        [Eph 1 v 3-5]
        Having predestinated
        us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to
        the good pleasure of his will.


        this is what these ''children of His Good pleasure'' are like
        now
        is this word ''good pleasure'' the same as ''well pleasing''?

        yes/no/maybe?

        who else was well pleasing?

        A Believer should consider that - they are no longer victimized orphans!!!!why?
        a spiritual maturity was placed in them before lowering to earth, to be the same type of SON as ''thee Son''.

        to be holy before Him not only that but TO BE WITHOUT BLAME.

        BLAMELESS!!!!![where is death found in a blameless believer?}
        in John 1 v 12 Yahushua says
        'But as many as received Him, to them gave the power to
        become sons of God.’ John 1:12
        this word for ''sons'' is teknon and when we dig deeper it can mean TRUE DESCENDANT.

        THEN we can find out that Enoch's this well pleasing believer's name means
        initiate - initiated

        : to cause or facilitate the beginning of
        : to induct into membership by or as if by special rites
        : to instruct in the rudiments or principles of something
        : introduce
        synonyms see begin
        : to lead or bring in especially for the first time
        : to bring into play
        : to bring into practice or use
        : to institute
        : to lead to or make known by a formal act, announcement, or recommendation
        : to cause to be acquainted
        : to present formally at court or into society
        : to present or announce formally
        : to bring (as an actor or singer) before the public for the first time

        : to bring to a knowledge of something -introduced them to new ideas




        Enoch Introduced a LIFE that was well pleasing
        He practiced that life and acquainted other believers to it.
        He instituted this life and the principles it contained.


        A believer is predestined and initated to say NO!.....to the fallen nature and all it contains, so they become blameless, and this gives them 'THE POWER'' to become His adopted sons.... and only in this position this believer will find all spiritual blessings.

        now we ask
        is containing the fullness of the Life of Our Saviour - a spiritual blessing?- where is death found in that position?
        show me ?

        - none can because from this position there is

        no rebellion,
        no carnal mindedness,
        no vanity,
        no fallen-ness and mark missing.

        all old things have passed away and NEW THINGS HAVE APPEARED IN THIS NEW CREATURE, with the divine ability to say NO. amen

        are we adepts?

        An adept is an individual identified as having attained a specific level of knowledge, skill, or aptitude in doctrines relevant to a particular author or organization.

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        • #5
          are we adepts?

          i am learning new things today.... SO....tonight i will write on these few new things.

          1] correct Judgement!
          have ye noticed in your own countries all manner of injustice is being passed out by the law courts + corrupt hidden agenda judges?
          ofcourse - it is the plan!
          So many bad decission are passed off as justice, so that the word is becoming a mockery, BUT wait! for these unjust happenings shall detoriate further as the societies of the world fall into ruins.

          2] Honour
          Have u noticed how dishonour seems rife and Honour is becoming a thing of the past. Not too many have HONOUR in their lives.
          Dishonour fills so many houses.

          ---------------------------------------------------------------

          Father is creating His new creature filled with correct justice and filled with a divine honour system.
          Rather like the Military system.


          next.

          i learnt that Messiah comes to a believer as a ''thief'' in the night [ while they are still spiritually asleep] and awakens them into THE LIFE!
          Now this is not a church acceptance of saved i am speaking about at all [that is a counterfeit / a harlot controlling her lovers and very bad reporting. ] NO, it is so different for this divine quickening is a discovery of recognition and not someone dragged up to an altar 1/2 protesting and feeling guilty and wanting to ''escape hell''.

          It is a moment of predestined destiny, when a joining was made complete, where all other events paled significantly
          When this day arrives the maturing training begins in earnest into the more excellent way - phil 3 v 10-14

          the object of this holy pressing into and holy teaching is THE CONTAINMENT of all vanity.
          The object of this holy pressing into and holy teaching is THE CONTAINMENT of all vanity.
          The object of this holy pressing into and holy teaching is THE CONTAINMENT of all vanity.
          The object of this holy pressing into and holy teaching is THE CONTAINMENT of all vanity.
          or
          the complete ''covering'' of all vanity so it becomes iN-EXPRESSABLE
          Last edited by LucySmith; 04-19-2008, 06:02 PM. Reason: spellin

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          • #6
            John 21 v 25

            "...so many other things, Yahushua did.......''

            when i was a very small child i was looking at the white clouds, those big white fluffy ones that look so good to jump in, and i looked at the edge of this cloud and i said
            ''Father could we sit together on a cloud like that and could i learn from You and could You teach me to be like Yahuahua too and how to understand things like You do I want to learn how Please tell me''

            i am not a little child anymore, but in real life i am.

            now, i was wondering if Disciple John was told how to be the image of Christ as he walked and followed after this Messiah?
            LET US CONSIDER Please........................
            among these MANY OTHER THINGS, did John learn, the object of all holy inspired ministry

            the Objective of the Cross was to break the power of vanity and open up the real life world of the divine

            was it?
            THE CONTAINMENT of all vanity.


            ummmm......alternatively

            do ye think that the Christ Ministry is
            this?
            * some staged show-a world wide theme park of religious entertainment
            * performing of funerals and marriages
            *paying 10th income in tithes,
            * ever expanding empires of new buildings
            *hireling pastors, those wage earners who cannot rock the denominational boat other wise NO paypacket and retirement funded old age,
            *intimidation from leadership,
            *corrupt brainwashing,
            *religious abuses and 1/2 truth preached.


            or


            is Father taking out from each nation A PEOPLE FOR HIS NAME.
            name - means the same character!
            That has nothing to do, WITH church THEME PARK RELIGION. system of corporate religion

            Acts 15 v 14.
            the BN. tells us the meaning from these 2 numbers. 15/14
            ''resting - by their perfect salvation of deliverance!''

            a people for His name.
            could i now write?
            A peculiar people - choosen for a Royal House.
            receiving a perfect salvation of deliverance from the vanity realm of the laws of sin and death!

            therefore this Royal family of kings and priests, this peculiar people, would have ''a mission'' dont ye think so, rather than live for the entertainment of corporate church religion that saves none.
            yes/no/maybe?

            would this Royal House, a people for His name[character and likeness] be the many or the few do ye think?
            yes/no/maybe?

            therefore John and his special ministry, of the Holy Spirit going before him would be to locate the few AND JOIN the few....as living stones
            ummm do ye think so?
            yes/no/maybe?

            these few predestinated choosen, would KNOW each other.
            yes/no/maybe?


            do ye know how?
            by the ''things they suffered'' as they died to self [Rev 12 v 11] their testimony.
            Their testimony is their suffering and this suffering is not so much the ''things'' [they put up with or went thru to die daily on their cross] but the realization of their separation from their real Father.

            yes...
            i want us to realise this major factor here please

            the realization of their separation from their real Father.
            the realization of their separation from their real Father.
            the realization of their separation from their real Father.
            when we are separated - vanity is King.
            Yahushua never allowed vanity to be His king.
            He suffered.
            His people suffer too.

            vanity is overcome by our new creature's ability to be a non-separational peculiar person.
            HOW?
            by our gaining of EVERLASTING LIFE, FROM OUR EVERLASTING FATHER.....here and now!!!!


            many people believe many different things about Yahushua and His dying on the cross and His reaction in Getheseme that day.
            all have their opinion.
            I was thinking this over and how He suffered and asked His Father, if it was possible to take this 'cup' from HIM.

            what ''cup''?

            what if this ''cup'' was
            His surrendering up of His will to the will of His Father = now to enter into vanity's realm and experience separation for us and by doing this, He DEFEATED DEATH, for all men who would Believe HIM.

            A Believer would never be separated from their real Father, called the Everlasting Father, because this realm of vanity has been overcome.
            He became sin for us
            2 CORINTHIANS 5:21
            For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. ...
            ummm.something to think about - because vanity is a realm of delusion
            Yahushua had to enter into the realm of delusion to pay the Bride price.....
            He suffered so bad His head shed blood droplets
            but
            He did His Father's will.

            Separation of the real Father is to enter into a delusion that seems real.
            Vanity is the realm of HUMAN WISHES but never the realm of the WILL OF THE everlasting FATHER

            ps
            ps... Did yahushua teach John how to overcome the world of delusion?
            is that why John could stand there at the cross and not be afraid?

            Does John's writen words teach - how to overcome the realm of vanity's delusions?
            yes! it does!!!!
            let us
            consider what John wrote in Rev 3 v 18 and then the 3 items needed to combat vanity and then the comments of Yahushua standing outside these establishments.


            Rev 3:17
            Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

            let us see the ''combatants'' [ believers] 3 divine weapons
            Rev 3:18
            I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
            a] Buy gold
            b] get eye salve
            c] get dressed in white raimnents


            if this is not done we behold vanities rampaging.

            and then this comment as a final witness comments

            Age after age has passed away, for no other purpose than to behold their wretchedness." – Thomas Paine (1737-1809) Political philosopher, author
            Last edited by LucySmith; 04-19-2008, 06:14 PM. Reason: PS adding

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            • #7
              cont. wretchedness is removed /Liberty is engrafted

              cont. recap
              [Does John's written words teach - how to overcome the realm of vanity's delusions?

              yes! it does!!!!

              let us
              consider what John wrote in Rev 3 v 17-18 and then the 3 items needed to combat vanity]

              A Believers wretchedness is removed and Liberty is engrafted by learning how to have the confidence of Christ.

              These ''confidences'' have to be proven by trails and testing [OF A BELIEVER] as this is ''Operation LIBERTY'' against the Enemy called vanity and all the death and destruction it contains.

              These Royal kings and priests are to remain LOYAL to their Head and never to the religious harlot!
              therefore
              spiritual army combat exercises are needed.

              now consider.
              if we are NOT in this army we have something to hide.
              if we are NOT in this army we have something to hide.
              if we are NOT in this army we have something to hide.

              as the wages of sin do not kill/devour/destroy this divine army.

              that is why the religious and all church people die - they are hiding their sin,.! vanity was their choice of lordship, as they lived upon wishes of delusion and not upon divine spiritual reality.
              They refused the LIFE ''in'' THE ARMY. ''
              The Life in this army makes a believer innocent as nothing is hidden!

              if i write ''LIFE IN THE ARMY'' I CAN FIND 4 OTHER WORDS THAT are hidden but say this
              I AM A HEALER

              a HEALING king, under the EVERLASTING HEALER AND THE KING.

              THE name ''Liberty Operations'' means SECURITY

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              • #8
                cont. Operation LIBERTY - a more excellent ministry

                Perhaps to be spiritually minded is also to be MILITARY MINDED.
                yes/no/maybe?

                --------------------------------------------------

                today while i was having lunch in a cafe i was re-thinking about YAHUSHUA being a believer's
                CUP
                BEARER.... AND THEN.... i remembered another who had the office of A CUPBEARER, = Nehemiah was a cupbearer for king Artaxerxes of Persia...who tasted the wine to see if it was poisoned. It was because of this ONE MAN, that a DECREE, with issued to rebuild the walls of that ancient holy city
                BTW
                Nehemiah - name means Jehovah's comfort.

                [This divine seeking and receiving information as clues it is like fitting a jigsaw picture to together.]

                All the walls of the holy city had been destroyed 140yrs before yet a few brave men went to re-build the walls.

                when a believer is in the Holy School, they learn how to rebuild the walls, that the enemy has destroyed.
                “ Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God?
                You are not your own;
                you were bought with a price.
                So glorify God in your body (1 Corinthians 6:19-20).
                but how does a Believer do this?
                by coming into the divine understanding that walls are spiritual realities
                i.e.
                THE WALL OF BELIEVING ONLY UPON The Everlasting Father.
                THE WALLS OF FAITH, LOVE AND HOPE,
                THE WALLS OF JOY AND PEACE AND LONG SUFFERING
                THE WALLS OF KINDNESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS AND MERCY AND JUSTICE.etc
                the purpose for these 'walls'' is to separate from the rest of the world.

                THESE walls are to be rebuilt in a believer's life for the enemy [found in vanity] has torn them down by the eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil also to consider is that Abba has placed a hedge (wall) around Job and Satan could not touch him.
                “the Lord is faithful; he will strengthen you and guard you from evil,” (2 Thessalonians 3:3).
                notice a Believer is not going anywhere but rather BE-coming.
                the church says
                ''i long to die to be with the lord''
                but
                a BELIEVER says
                '' I long to BE-come His Image
                meaning
                BE-coming HE in me and I in HIM.
                such a vast gulf separates these 2 options.

                This ''Operation Liberty'' is the divine military standards of entry into the Order of Melchizedek Ps 110 v 1-4
                did ye notice that when Brother Abraham drank the wine after the battle, he received the ''dew of his youth'' to impregnated his wife Sarah, that brought to life this 'promised'' son!!!
                Gen 14 v 18-19...but he had to drink this wine first to receive the promises...in a way... just like Nehemiah drank as a cup-bearer!
                * Abraham took the ''life'' in him, home to Sarah.
                * Nehemiah had great success in re-building those fallen down walls.
                Both were wine drinkers
                This wine drinking , this Order of New life, releases the Melchedezeck Priesthood - the realm of Maturity in Christ.

                -------------------------------------------------------------
                Royal Commandos- in the natural
                http://forum.armedassault.info/index.php?showtopic=1784

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                recomends....
                * The forces are looking for people of high level maturity

                however
                a believer is trained up to ''see'' the natural then relate this into SPIRITUAL REALITIES. amen

                SO!!! what of such a spiritual army of LIBERATORS?

                did Apostle John know of such a team?
                Can John train such a team?
                Is John a team player?

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                • #9
                  cont, ''Operation Liberty'' -

                  what of such a ''spiritual army'' of LIBERATORS?
                  David had some mighty men!
                  Does Yahushua?
                  * does Yahushua have ''his helpers of war''?
                  * His warriors armed for war?
                  Now these are they that came to David to Ziklag, while he yet kept himself close because of Saul the son of Kish; and they were among the mighty men, his helpers in war” (1 Chron. 12:1).
                  another thing to ask is
                  Why was this nation of Israel so pathetic against the
                  Philistines?

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                  • #10
                    cont, ''Operation Liberty'' -

                    what of such a ''spiritual army'' of LIBERATORS?
                    David had some mighty men!
                    Does Yahushua?
                    * does Yahushua have ''his helpers of war''?
                    * His warriors armed for war?
                    Now these are they that came to David to Ziklag, while he yet kept himself close because of Saul the son of Kish; and they were among the mighty men, his helpers in war” (1 Chron. 12:1).
                    Another thing to ask is
                    Why was this nation of Israel so pathetic against the uncircumcised
                    Philistines?


                    An overcomer daily faces their uncircumcised Philistines till they actually become MIGHTY MEN OF WAR, because their uncircumcised Philistines within fade away and a NEW GIANT, is installed called THE FULLNESS OF CHRIST-THE HOPE OF GLORY!
                    why?
                    because a NEW HEART has been received and not an uncircumcised one.

                    An Overcomer ''wars'' inside as they cut off their old fleshy heart, with Obediences to the Path Messiah took.

                    One very hard attitude of the flesh to get released from is ''doubting His word''
                    this was the downfall of our soul.
                    DOUBTING, yet Apostle John must have been able to shed his doubting uncircumcised heart that day at the cross...standing there as a comfort to his friend -THE King....all had forsaken HIM, yet John had not.....even Messiah cried out ''Father Father , why has Thou forsaken Me'' as He was lowered into the realm of vanity and sin and death as a sacrifice = to taste once and for all every man!

                    the realm of vanity is one of FORSAKENNESS.
                    the realm of vanity is one of Orphans.

                    the realm of vanity is one of FORSAKENNESS.
                    the realm of vanity is one of Orphans.

                    the realm of vanity is one of FORSAKENNESS.
                    the realm of vanity is one of Orphans.

                    This sin of DOUBTING, wants something visible to rest upon - it wants ''seeing is believing as its evidence'' - but the truth is ''seeing'' is vainty's delusion.
                    why?
                    the eye has become unfixed to see spiritual realities [2 kings 6 v 17]

                    2Ki 6:17 ''And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain [was] full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.
                    That is why it is impossible to ''see'' immortal people for the untrained eye only sees into vanity.
                    11 times the religious men of Israel tried to kill Messiah yet, ''He disappeared from their view''.


                    when an overcomer ''wars'' they go intoDAMAGE CONTROL -meaning, THEY ARE TRAINED UP to win, against the damage their soul [ 5 senses] are inflicting upon them.

                    when an overcomer ''wars'' they go intoDAMAGE CONTROL -meaning, THEY ARE TRAINED UP to win, against the damage their soul [ 5 senses] are inflicting upon them.


                    when an overcomer ''wars'' they go intoDAMAGE CONTROL -meaning, THEY ARE TRAINED UP to win, against the damage their soul [ 5 senses] are inflicting upon them.

                    THIS IS HOW DEATH IS OVERCOME U SEE AND REPLACED WITH ETERNAL LIFE.

                    BTW

                    if we search INSIDE THE 2 WORDS ETERNAL LIFE - WE SHALL FIND HIIDEN AWAY THE ONE WORD FERTILE

                    the new life, MAKES A believer f.e.r.t.i.l.e.

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                    • #11
                      cont,..operation LIBERTY.... damage controlling

                      cont,
                      if no one ever reads these posts, thats OK, but what is so wonderfull is i learn from them and how to be an eternal being.

                      2 things to re-cap upon.

                      no 1
                      when an overcomer ''wars'' they go into DAMAGE CONTROL -meaning, THEY ARE TRAINED UP to win, against the damage, their soul [ 5 senses] is inflicting upon them.
                      no 2
                      This sin of DOUBTING, wants something visible to rest upon - it wants ''seeing is believing as its evidence'' - but the truth is ''seeing'' is vainty's delusion.
                      why?
                      the eye has become unfixed to see spiritual realities [2 kings 6 v 17]
                      to things to address.

                      1] damage control
                      2] the eye - seeing is believing.

                      when a Believer is being trained by the Holy Spirit, it is done on a principle of changing realms.

                      Our soul,[ the deceived Eve] selected an UNFIXED eye of the 5 senses to rule and reign within herself and bypassed her Spiritual man within, so she landed in a delusion as proved by Elisha and his servant.... that ''opened eye'' is REAL LIFE.

                      The Believer needs to live in the life with an opened eye
                      This is a weapon Messiah shows a Believer thru Apostle John in Rev 3 v 17-21 and the necessity of EYE SALVE.

                      now to our learning. Divine Military training up to win.

                      When we all have doubts and need to ''see to believe'' it means we have become ''SCATTERED'' within, for we don't know which way to turn for we are trapped within a circumstance /situation we are becoming damaged over - this attitude, the NT describes as WAVERING.

                      This trapped and wavering ATTITUDE can come from many sources and thru weakness in the heart.... remembering the heart needs to become NEW.
                      THAT IS BECAUSE the 5 senses reign....this has to stop!!! and a reversal has to happen for our metamorphoo.

                      A BELIEVER GOES INTO DAMAGE CONTROL and realises they are trapped but then, developes a FIXED EYE.

                      THIS FIXED EYE is the eye salve [a weapon] that shows us eternal things rather than vanity's curses.

                      Yahushua only contains a FIXED EYE.
                      ONE-EYED.
                      ONE MOTIVE OF LIFE
                      ONE IDEAL
                      ONE BELIEF
                      ONE CAUSE
                      ONE TRUTH AND LIFE. -therefore as The head is so is His body.

                      A believer Is a part of a company of believers who have gained the eye salve of a fixed but opened eye.

                      THIS MEANS, when in damage control they are no longer scattered and wavering inside for a NEW CONFIDENCE has come upon them and ''drum roll'' THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO, without needing continual correction.. just as their King knew and acted upon that knowing.

                      A Believer has to learn this drill - why? because when this happens and they learn not to waver -the radiance of THE EVERLASTING FATHER's glory comes upon them as it did with THE SON
                      This radiance is like WAVES of vibration in the realm of the Real! that a believer is swallowed up into. That is why death is overcome as per divine Orders.
                      To make it more simple a BELIEVER, allows the example Christ, TO GIVE THEM THEIR DIRECTION.

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                      • #12
                        cont 'ops' Liberation = clarity.

                        Martha told her version John 11 v 24
                        Messiah told His version John 11 v 25-26
                        2 versions.

                        the Sons believe John 11 v 25-26.
                        others believe John 11 v 24.
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                        conversation with the churched goes like this.....
                        ummmm
                        so this church belief of your says, ''saved from the laws of sin and death yet still die''.
                        this is a church standard
                        -------------------------------------------------------------
                        BUT, for a son - they know death is an enemy and is well able to be overcome and asked of a believer to overcome this last enemy.

                        however, the truth is
                        the churched were not saved in the 1st place, only thought they were as sin took them.... why?
                        they were unable to live in LIFE OF THE SPIRIT, where we are told IS NOW [present tense] NO condemnation.

                        condemnation means
                        : to declare to be reprehensible, wrong, or evil usually after weighing evidence and without reservation.
                        : to pronounce guilty
                        : convict
                        : sentence
                        : to adjudge unfit for use or consumption

                        NOW people who die have been declared Guilty and reprehensible....AND THAT is NOT saved.
                        however
                        LIFE IN THE SPIRIT - the same life Christ lives in - there is NO guilt nor nothing in a believer to be reprehensible so they are SAVED,

                        see this?
                        in the training up of a believer the Holy Spirit HIGHLIGHTS, these 2 words THE LIFE, [ who is a Person] so that the believers can have clarity of sight and of mind to be freed from all religious brainwashing.

                        THE BELIEVER COMES THRU THE FOG AND INTO CLARITY.

                        clarity as a word defination is
                        : the quality or state of being clear
                        : lucidity
                        : clearness of thought or style
                        : a presumed capacity to perceive the truth directly and instantaneously.
                        when the Holy Spirit taught me ''THE'' LIFE THAT DAY, i knew it!!!
                        THE TRUTH CAME DIRECTLY AND CLEARLY, and from that day, i have been in the practice mode of ''cleaness of thought'' [however hard this is] i still practice it and long to be COMPLETED AND FREE, and living within the divine ability of CLEANESS OF THOUGHT.... amen

                        no hidden sin within
                        shining and glorious
                        beautifull and free.

                        That is my goal and my LIBERTY in Him.
                        I did not think this over, but He placed HIS GOAL in me......Jer.33.v.3.
                        He calls, He reveals He plans, He enlightens, His shepherds with a great desire over a believer. It is like ''LOVE, across a crowded room''.

                        That is why everything we pass thru here and our 'sufferings' is a learning curve of DONT EAT, from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
                        JUST STOP EATING

                        let us now look at how!!!!

                        Did ye see this word here KNOWLEDGE!!! of.?? [the knowledge of]
                        This knowledge is carnal knowledge and this knowledge is OUR THINKING,
                        OUR THINKING is the knowledge of the Tree of Good and Evil.
                        OUR THINKING KILLS.
                        Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded [is] death; but to be spiritually minded [is] life and peace.
                        *while anyone lives under the carnal minded standards of thinking, they shall die.
                        *while anyone lives under the carnal minded standards of thinking, they shall die.
                        *while anyone lives under the carnal minded standards of thinking, they shall die.

                        why?
                        they did not have ''the cleanness of thought''.
                        why?
                        they gauged everything upon the life of this world rather than THE LIFE of CHRIST.

                        now let us not pretend here,
                        *we all know our frame,
                        *we all know our thought life and basically it stinks with all manner of hidden stuff not for human consumption.

                        therefore we are defeated.
                        without hope.
                        dead.

                        but wait......just hang on......

                        i remembered another loved verse under the same numbers
                        SONG OF SONGS
                        8 v 6.
                        Sgs 8:6
                        Set me as a seal upon thine heart, as a seal upon thine arm:
                        for love [is] strong as death; jealousy [is] cruel as the grave: the coals thereof [are] coals of fire, [which hath a] most vehement flame.
                        let us now pray TO BE A 'SET SEAL' UPON HIS HEART.
                        let us now pray TO BE A 'SEAL' UPON HIS ARM.

                        UMMMMM......
                        what is a SEAL?
                        i know most will find this verse as ''lovey-dovey stuff, OH HOW SWEET''

                        BUT!
                        CAN WE FIND A ''SEAL'' IN ''Operation LIBERTY'' do ye think?
                        yes
                        a seal - is a military term used for a man in combat!!!!!

                        a military seal.

                        Now!!!
                        are we beginning to ''see'' with clarity?
                        - i knew ye would find this investigation interesting.

                        did ye know they even have ''seal camps''.
                        These are camps for the ''''''elite''''''' forces and train to have highly-valued military-level skills

                        now.....what say ye?

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                        • #13
                          cont ''OP. Lib''./seal/military

                          did ye know they even have ''seal camps''.
                          These are camps for the ''''''elite''''''' forces and train to have highly-valued military-level skills
                          while most people would see S of Songs 8 v 6 as a love verse [there is nothing wrong with that.. ALWAYS let LOVE FLOW AND GROW who is knocking that - no me!!!!! ] but i see this verse in a new light.

                          to me it is being made able to bear His "Unquenchable Strength''
                          for His service of overcoming all vanity, rooted in carnalmindedness.

                          why?

                          A seal is a symbol of authority! the heart is for LOVING THIS AUTHORITY AND THE ARM IS FOR THE MINISTRY STRENGTH TO CARRY OUT the Father's will as Christ did.
                          2 Corn.6.v16
                          there are 7 verses telling a believer the same thing in a slightly different way.
                          2Cr 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
                          A seal is also put upon a letter [ AN EPISTLE] so that the contents are private and hidden, ONLY FOR the reader.
                          This is a love letter [AN EPISTOL] for HIS sons, those who are prestinated and choose before the foundation of the world to be His adopted kings and priests who shall press into the high calling of the order of endless life....the new priesthood the new covenant or THE BETTER HOPE.

                          2Cr 3:3 [Forasmuch as ye are] manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
                          THIS SEALED ARM - IS THE AUTHORITY and the power to overcome and then Minister out from the OVERCOMING REALM.... this is an eternal realm of glory as the overcomer is given the strength of Christ to fully overcome even that last enemy 'death' amen.

                          do ye love these words here.... A BETTER HOPE?

                          IF WE EXAMINE ''BETTER HOPE'' WE WILL FIND 2 more words inside
                          the top.!!!!
                          a BETTER HOPE IS THE TOP!!!!


                          THE TOP!!!!
                          : the highest point, level, or part of something
                          : summit, crown
                          : the head or top of the head
                          : the head
                          : the highest or uppermost region
                          : the highest position (as in rank or achievement)
                          : the choicest part : cream, pick
                          could i write ppl. would this be true?
                          that
                          This ''better hope'' is the highest position, the choicest achievement and the cream of ranks'' - does this summary not co-ordinate with the
                          the ''''''elite''''''' forces and train to have highly-valued military-level skills ..............................now is this a NEW WAY of 'mortal' living.....remaining alive yet changed into the eternal dimension or to live INSIDE THE SPIRIT OF LIFE!!!! just as Our saviour did on earth.

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                          • #14
                            a better hope

                            Now if perfection was through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the people received the Law), what further need was there for another priest to arise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be designated according to the order of Aaron? (NASB
                            perfection was NOT brought thru the priesthood of AAron therefore another priest has to arise!
                            This High Priest has THE BETTER HOPE of endless life. perfecting endless life in a believer that is!!!

                            but who will believe such a thing.
                            not too many!!
                            not too many people have this better hope on earth, only for ''when they die''.
                            but
                            these 2 words ENDLESS LIFE - is life without end - not an interrupted life by the grave.

                            do u know an amazing thing here.
                            I have not seen this happen before in reverse....


                            when i wrote ENDLESS LIFE.... the 2 words that are ''hidden'' ARE
                            LIFELESS END
                            IF a believer does not HAVE THIS ENDLESS LIFE - they have become
                            : lifeless - having no life
                            : dead
                            : inanimate
                            : lacking qualities expressive of life and vigor
                            : insipid
                            : destitute of living beings
                            sin and the grave have robbed people of the best!
                            notice this please.
                            Yahushua said ''I [the great I AM] will BUILD MY CHURCH [not divisional churches, building their empires] and the gates of hell/grave the openings into death [death's portals] shall not prevail [get the better of] her.

                            HIS CHURCH
                            HIS LIVING STONES
                            with HIS BELIEF
                            with HIS STANDARDS
                            HIS HEADSHIP - PASSING INTO HIS BODY.
                            NO GRAVE
                            NO SIN
                            with PERFECTING abilities - WITHOUT SPOT NOR WRINKLE
                            HIS WORKMANSHIP.

                            the Head and His body co-joined. [ a living picture]
                            Such a high priest meets every need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens" ( Heb 7:26).

                            all die
                            all sin
                            all are rebels

                            yet

                            there is a group of spiritually elite believer's being formed as living stones into the BETTER HOPE of endless life.
                            They do not die in a grave {Martha's belief John 11 v 24] but remain alive, and in the POWER POWER POWER of endless life they are taught how to overcome death, their last enemy


                            now who shall believe that!!!

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                            • #15
                              cont -the better hope /john 11 v 25-26

                              Yahushua did not have to die, to BE, '''''the RESURRECTION'''' when He told Martha , "I am the resurrection and the life,"

                              Who can grasp HIS MESSAGE. - THE CORE of His being is LIFE.

                              DID ye notice He lived here on earth in this RESURRECTION.
                              DID ye notice, '''IN"" His human body HE CARRIED, this resurrection life within
                              Did ye notice too, HE WAS THE MASTER OVER DEATH, while walking in this human body......as HE DISPLAYED, the Father's glory thru HIMSELF.

                              If, we MAJORED on His life, we would do as HE DID!
                              We have been marooned by a man made religion, called christianity that as no bearing on the LIFE OF THE MESSIAH, but words, and even those words FAIL TO TRANSFORM people into '''THE LIFE'' of power and blessing - to BE AS HE IS on earth.


                              There is a story, of Midas, and everything he touched turned to GOLD.
                              WHAT of the STORY OF CHRIST - where everything HE TOUCHED, turns to LIFE.

                              It is time TO LEAVE, the devilish shores of tradition and waded out into the SEA OF HOPE -TO find the beloved in THE BLESSED HOPE - THE HOPE, of endless life, here on earth= made visible and just as awesomely productive as OUR REAL FATHER.


                              Did ye know to live in ETERNAL LIFE, is the LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD.

                              a believer HAS TO BE TRAINED UP TO LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD- LIKE A CHILD - AND TO LEARN to grow up to be an adult with divine real worldly kingdom manners.

                              so! how are ye doing? is the real world appearing IN you?

                              Once when i asked about the real world, i was shown this example.

                              We go to a horror movie and we all sit there, screaming, afraid, and quaking at this awefull story unfolding before our eyes. There is all manner of horifying events and scarey scenes flashing before our eyes....finally the movie ends and we come out - INTO THE LIGHT- of our real world and go home and say ''sheez i am glad to be here and not in that movie''.

                              THIS WORLD IS OUR HORROR MOVIE, - our real world is the UNLIMITED RESOURCES OF CHRIST.

                              we were robbed.
                              the whole system robs men.
                              ''While men SLEPT, an enemy sowed the tares !"
                              And again He excoriated our clergy
                              "WOE, unto you, Lawyers, for you have taken away '''THE'' Key of Knowledge
                              you entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in YOU HINDERED !"
                              Luke 11:52

                              did ye note here....it is the clergy that has taken away the ;;;;;;key;;;;;;; of Knowledge, then hindered all others under them - from entering in.

                              LET us ask this - entering into where?
                              INTO THE SAME LIFE AS THE MESSIAH HAS.
                              SAME BELIEF
                              SAME UNDERSTANDINGS
                              SAME IDEALS
                              SAME DEEDS AND ACTS
                              SAME POWER
                              SAME UNLIMITEDNESS
                              SAME MIND
                              SAME fruitfullness
                              SAME, SAME, SAME, SAME everything as THE KING OF GLORY
                              when i post on other forums, the clergy become
                              truculent!
                              \TRUCK-yuh-lunt\ adjective
                              : feeling or displaying ferocity
                              : cruel, savage
                              : deadly,
                              they wear a disguise u see, bearing within a heart that is deluded and anti-christ.
                              therefore
                              the people sitting under such cruel and savage men/women become like them, themselves.

                              but a believer has come out from their hinderances!!!! for now
                              THERE IS A BETTER HOPE.....to enter into the Order of Melchidezeck, where our HIGH PRIEST, is.
                              consider this

                              IF YE ARE NOT IN THAT ORDER, [ the Order of endless life] ye are not with HIM, for He is THE HIGH PRIEST of the order of ENDLESS LIFE.

                              OR
                              ''we cannot have the chicken without the egg''.

                              by disobedience we die
                              by obedience we live.

                              SAVED, does not mean - saved but died.
                              saved means.
                              : to deliver from sin
                              : to rescue or deliver from danger or harm
                              : to preserve or guard from injury, destruction, or loss
                              : maintain, preserve
                              intransitive verb
                              : to rescue or deliver someone
                              synonyms see rescue

                              saved by using THE KEY OF KNOWLEDGE, only found from eating off THE TREE OF LIFE. amen

                              ---------------------------
                              Benjamin A. Wulf wrote
                              saying

                              ''The leper was a living parable in the world of sin of which death was the wages."

                              but did ye ever notice this please.

                              when MESSIAH TOUCHED THE LEPER, He did not receive this disease.
                              see
                              the reversal of the curse was already WITHIN Messiah.= that is exactly what HE CAME TO DELIVER! - the new covenant, with the new creature residing within.

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