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    i was at a gathering of people, all of them so beautifully dressed, and ofcourse eating the finest food, laid out on a magnificant table.

    I looked around at these beautifull people so well groomed and refined and i was so happy in their company, infact i could not get enough of their sweetness and confident talk.

    Everyone was talking, yet i remained silent, taking in the atmosphere of this place, but suddenly i had a thought, so i stood up, and said to all this gathering.

    ''HAS anyone EVER CONSIDERED, DEATH as a friend?''

    Oh~! there was a stunned silence, these beautifull people looked at me, appauled at what i had spoken.

    A lovely woman, with cream hair, began to scream, some looked so extremely aghast and a few fainted and fell off their chairs.

    The men, became upset and strickened, and had actually turned white, and looked at me as if i was some dreadfull abomination that had just slipped into their company.
    One of the older men even began to weep and i saw these great tears begin rolling down his cheeks.
    Some other men walked over to comfort him , he was in such a state.

    ''OH'' i thought, it was just a question''.

    One man, a great hero, ofcourse and admired and adored by many there, came over to my side and said....''dont you know child, DEATH IS AN ENEMY
    so apologise to these people Please,for your astonishing blunder and let us resume our meal" .

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    Last edited by LucySmith; 08-11-2007, 05:27 PM.

  • #2
    what if........................

    I was able to join a group of people who could claim ''i will never do that again'' and mean it?

    That drama of ''i will never do that again'' was conquered and a realm where there was NO conflict was entered into.

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    • #3
      what if...................

      we did actually choose LIFE, and had none of the diseases of Egypt put upon us?

      EXODUS 15:26: Obey The Word and be healed.

      "If you diligently heed the voice of the Lord your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians.
      For I am the Lord who heals you."
      ---------
      DEUTERONOMY 30:19: Choose to live.

      "I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendents may live."

      I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live." Deut 30:19


      do we CHOOSE LIFE.................... and if we do............what happens?
      we are blessed and we live.


      if we dont
      we are cursed and die.

      what if............................... WE WERE actually made wise, UNTO OUR SALVATION?

      what if...............................We were DISEASE FREE.


      DISEASE FREE, contains the words
      ''SAFE SEEDS''

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      • #4
        what if...................cont

        we were


        thankFULL
        peaceFULL
        grateFULL
        joyFULL
        cheerFULL

        we would be FULL. of His FULLness.

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        • #5
          [recap] ''disease free'' / ''safe seed.''

          what if.........................................

          DISEASE FREE, contains the words
          ''SAFE SEEDS''
          safe seeds.....
          Psalm 89:36,
          [the covenant Psalm,]
          The Lord promised David that his seed “shall endure for ever and his throne as the sun before Me”.
          = safe seeds?

          promised
          seed
          endure
          forever
          throne


          David - Zion- living - sons - throne - forever - manchild
          ARE ''CODE'' words that lead ''seekers to the Truth''.

          therefore~~~~
          some people have become SAFE SEEDS.........''that have led them into Zion, as His living sons, and forever Throne rulers as His manchild''.

          We can trace their progress from ''the songs of degrees''.
          lifted up
          arising
          ascending.

          The ''safe seed'' have become ALIVE and ''disease free'' = their soul and body have progressively become blameless as their SPIRIT waxes strong in the Lord.

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          • #6
            What If?

            Hi Everyone,

            What if Lucy and I are right about Messiah Yahushua and LIFE NOW? If we are right about Messiah's Immortality and our LIFE in HIM, then the whole world has been deceived about salvation:
            Revelation 12:9
            9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
            Do you believe that Yahushua came to give you LIFE? Do you believe that this LIFE can only be yours after you physically die? What if LIFE is possible for us right now?

            Do you believe that physical death is an enemy that has been overcome by Yahushua? Do you believe that Messiah Yahushua can save you from physical death right now?

            What if HaSatan has deceived the whole world about Yahushua and HIS great Salvation. What would be the result? Nothing would change, would it? All things would continue to be the same, would they not? What has changed in the world that last two thousand years?

            What if?

            Sincerely, Ab
            The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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            • #7
              what if.............................................

              we all actually were spiritual beings destined for a carnal experience.

              While having this carnal experience, we really all failed to function in our rightfull nature and mind as a spiritual being in an earthen vessel.

              Because we are unable to function and access our situation, that was forced upon us, we grow up deformed and die.

              so~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ we have become
              A mutant.
              An Alien, lost from our real purpose.

              This carnal creature dies thru LACK OF KNOWING.....not because they are utterly deformed but they fail to understand spiritual things,[their real life] so they can loose their deformity.

              what if..................................
              there was a way of escaping carnality, but only some were wise enough to understand the HIGHway leading out of all carnal captivity.

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              • #8
                what if........................

                we really understood bible given names.?
                what if.....names related to ''conditions''
                http://www.ccel.org/ccel/hitchcock/bible_names.toc.html
                examples?

                Moses - ''to be drawn out from''............................
                We could be a Moses as we are drawn out from this world, its sin and its deaths by Our Saviour, to be DELIVERERS.

                Sodom and Gomorrah.....'' to be bound and chained''......
                We can come out of Sodom and Gomorrah , if we find a ''righteous man''
                ask
                who is OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS? = THE MAN, Christ.
                Then we are no longer ''bound and chained''.

                what if
                I wrote this sentence saying
                ''Once I dwelt in Sodom and Gomorrah [bound and chained] but I became Moses [drawn out from] by Yeshu [the righteous man]''

                this is not my revelation but ''BillyBoys''.

                I think it amazing how we don't ''see''?
                We NEED to ''see'' by Names and Numbers and Verses as the Holy Spirit explains all our options of seeking THE TRUTH

                We can become as an AARON a teacher; lofty; mountain of strength
                by having the almond stick, that budded, flowered and bore fruit.

                image that. ''A LOFTY HIGH MOUNTAIN of the divine miraculous''.
                miraculous.=
                : of the nature of a miracle
                : supernatural [a miraculous event]
                : suggesting a miracle
                : marvelous
                : working or able to work miracles
                — mi·rac·u·lous·ly adverb
                — mi·rac·u·lous·ness noun
                miraculous.

                what if................................
                religion, did away with their TITLES of....
                THE POPE
                means 'father' but the Word says ''call no man father''
                "Call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven" (Matt. 23:9).

                THE PASTOR [it is not scriptural to be ruled over by ONE man] the verse Eph 4 v 11...IS PLURAL....and these Pastors go hand in hand with the other Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, and Teachers... it was a 5 handed guide not a ONE MAN SHOW.


                THE REVEREND.......to be ''revered as God''.
                Higher orders are designated as “Very Reverend,” “Right Reverend,” or “Most Reverend.”

                primitive root;
                to fear;
                morally to revere;
                causatively to frighten:
                - affright, be (make) afraid, dread (-ful), (put in) fear (-ful, -fully, -ing). (be had in) reverence (-end), X see, terrible (act, -ness, thing).
                in principle, the use of “Reverend,” as a clerical title, is condemned by the Lord.....Mt. 23:5-12.


                so

                what if............................................................................

                THEY BECAME an AARON?

                unfortunately
                They are NOT Aaron, that is why they are not MIRACULOUS.

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                • #9
                  what if....................................[cont.pastor theme]

                  what if..........................
                  Pastors as a one man controller...became obsolete.
                  no longer in use or no longer useful
                  : of a kind or style no longer current
                  : old-fashioned.
                  to all the ''pastor controlled people'' plx consider this

                  http://cnview.com/churches_today/is_...stem_scrip.htm

                  what if....................
                  u realised the trap and became free.
                  I do pray so.
                  here is an in part observation from scriptures.
                  I had always assumed that the one-Pastor system, being the pattern followed in the overwhelming majority of churches today, was founded upon Scripture. But as I began to earnestly study the Scriptures on the issue of church leadership, one disturbing question kept intruding itself-a question I present here for the sober consideration of the reader.

                  Where in Scripture is there warrant for one man to be the spiritual leader and authority over the local church?

                  Never mind that this is the pattern unquestioningly followed throughout Christendom today.
                  Where is it in Scripture?
                  As I searched the length and breadth of the New Testament, it became obvious to me that such a pattern wasNOWHERE to be found.
                  Rather,
                  I found that the primary role in shepherding the New Testament churches was exercised, not by a solitary Pastor, but by a plurality of men, described as "elders" or ''overseers''.

                  I.E.
                  And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.
                  (Acts 14:23)

                  From Miletus he sent to Ephesus and called for the elders of the church.... He said unto them... Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. (Acts 20:17-28)

                  Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons: (Phil. 1:1)

                  For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
                  (Titus 1:5)

                  Is any sick among you?
                  let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
                  (James 5:14)

                  The quotation above from Acts 20 makes it clear that the "elders" and "overseers" are the same persons, and that it is they who are given responsibility to shepherd, or pastor the church of God.
                  ("Shepherd" is the literal meaning of the word "pastor.")
                  What if......
                  people were set free from ''THIS ONE MAN STATUS SYMBOL''?
                  http://www.midcry.org/pastor.htm
                  as example...............................................
                  we find many things in the present day church that are not according to the New Testament pattern. These are things that have to be changed if we get back to God's original plan for his church.

                  The early church knew nothing about a one man ministry over the local assembly.

                  To the contrary the local church had a multiple ministry made up of elders or bishops who were part of the assembly.
                  Acts 20:17, Philippians 1:1, Titus 1:5.
                  http://members.aol.com/ludiebell/godtoldme.htm

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                  • #10
                    what if........................................

                    all the strange things that are happening upon the earth, was not so much due to the fact that ''the filther get more filthy, and the unjust become more unjust''
                    but that

                    the righteous become even more righteous and the holy become even more holier

                    This earth has always been filthy and unjust hasn't it?
                    but
                    the earth has never had ..............so many ''righteously holy'' upon it.

                    Rev 22 v11,

                    or
                    I will put this another way.

                    it is not because of the unjust this world is staggering and strangely affecting all men but because of the holiness of the '' just.''

                    why?

                    the effects of the HOLY JUST coming into perfection, are causing this world of vanity to reel and stagger
                    and perhaps why
                    “The earth is reeling like a drunk.”

                    The earth was not ''reeeeeeeeeling'' from the acts of the wicked, but, from the Holy Spirit found IN the church of the living God as they finished their overcoming race.
                    Acts 2 v 13.


                    now
                    thats ''out there'' thinking hey?

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                    • #11
                      what if.................................

                      we actually learnt NOT to lean upon our own understanding?
                      we actually learnt NOT to lean upon our own understanding?
                      we actually learnt NOT to lean upon our own understanding?


                      what if..........................
                      we lived within ''a lie'' and that ''lie'' was filled with false information and this false information fed our fears so that the ''lie'' became our lying fears that eventually destroyed us.


                      here is an example.
                      --------------------------------------------------------------------------
                      the TRUTH IS YESHU is our Healer.
                      yes/no/maybe?


                      yet
                      most people go the their local doctor who gives them pills when they get sick
                      therefore
                      Abba is not needed and the local DR. is their ''god''.


                      so.....
                      The pills are taken but there is a warning on most pills regarding their ''side effects''.
                      Many pills get recalled.

                      The warning on the bottle label says something like
                      '' this prescription can give vomiting, headaches, blood clots or stokes to some people...[or worst]''
                      however
                      the person about to take this pill and who reads this warning, never thinks

                      THIS IS A WARNING TO ME ~~~~~


                      nor do they think
                      whoever made this **** in the first place, is morally bankrupt to allow such a vile product to make the retail market in the 1st place, when it is so faulty and contains ingredients that shall give such dire side effects upon some people.

                      and what is more
                      how is this ''SOME PEOPLE'' really defined.
                      who exactly are these mysterious ''some people''?

                      so~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                      why do people generally think
                      '' i will take the pills to feel better regardless of the warnings''

                      therefore
                      This whole system of adamic socially acceptable brainwashing is for moronic lunatics.
                      The lie is swallowed, the fear set in place, the pill swallowed...

                      the Truth is..........
                      Does The Father, make pills with such drastic side effects and does He invited Doctors to ''heal'' when HE SENT HIS SON to prevail against the brainwashing power of the Lie, and the fear.


                      then.........
                      to continue this example of lunacy further

                      let us consider buying a new car.
                      IF we went to purchase our new car and the car salesman told us, if we bought this car a warning went with it that warned us
                      ''that the car had no brakes and would crash after the first few miles and kill us''.

                      would we buy the car?

                      yes/no/maybe

                      LUNACY
                      :insanity
                      : wild foolishness
                      : extravagant folly
                      : a foolish act
                      the Adamic race is one of a lunatic.
                      that is why
                      we never LEAN on our own UNDERSTANDING, for it is one of tremendous faults and false evidence appearing as ''real''.


                      the devil works with false evidence.....and we all accept it as normal and real BUT


                      WHAT IF..........................................
                      we began to lean NOT on our own understandings?


                      HERE is a world of the Matrix = that lying world of lies.
                      are u a part of it?

                      is this you?
                      have u ever heard of pharmageddon?


                      http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article2896181.ece

                      Pharmageddon?
                      http://www.socialaudit.org.uk/60700716.htm
                      Pharmageddon has been defined as,
                      "the prospect of a world in which medicines and medicine produce more ill-health than health, and when medical progress does more harm than good".

                      for our food.
                      http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Pharmageddon.php


                      what if we simply threw up our arms and run into the ARMS OF THE REAL. JUST FOR A CHANGE

                      WHAT IF..........................................
                      we actually began to lean NOT on our own understandings?

                      WHAT IF..........................................
                      we actually began to lean NOT on our own understandings?


                      our real problem is.....our mental health.

                      so what if........................................
                      OUR MIND WAS CHANGED and we learnt all about
                      The Great Escape"
                      2 Peter 1:2-11

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                      • #12
                        what if...................

                        THIS is really so?
                        I placed it in the ''how interesting Dept'' not knowing if it was so....


                        Vibration Study ~ Dr. David Hawkins
                        http://www.level-of-consciousness.org/

                        i dont recommend this site, [NO way, it seems ''alternative''] only i thought the concept of ''vibrations'' going out from people was interesting....



                        In his book "Power vs. Force," Dr. David Hawkins provides the results from a study of the vibrations we hold in different states of consciousness, emotion and perceptions.

                        This is a very short synopsis of some of the basic information you will find in "Power vs. Force" and Dr. Hawkins' work.

                        The chart below is a listing of emotions and consciousness with a corresponding number that is attributed to the vibration of those emotions and perspectives. The higher number, the higher the vibration. The lower the number, the lower the vibration.

                        Shame/Humiliation 20
                        Guilt/Blame 30
                        Grief/Regret 75
                        Fear / Anxiety 100
                        Desire/Craving 125 (based in a more of lack consciousness)
                        Anger/Hate 150
                        Pride/Scorn 175
                        Courage/Affirmation 200
                        Neutrality/Trust 250
                        Willingness/Optimism 310
                        Acceptance/Forgiveness 350
                        Reason/Understanding 400
                        Love/Reverence 500
                        Joy/Serenity 540
                        Peace/Bliss 600
                        Enlightenment/Ineffable 700-1000

                        The work of Dr. Hawkins further states: You vibration alone (not your direct actions) impacts humanity as follows:

                        ~ One individual who lives and vibrates to the energy of Optimism and a willingness to be nonjudgmental of others will counterbalance the negativity of 90,000 individuals who calibrate at the lower weakening levels.

                        ~One individual who lives and vibrates to the energy of pure love and reverence for all of life will counterbalance the negativity of 750,000 individuals who calibrate at the lower weakening levels.

                        ~One individual who lives and vibrates to the energy of the illumination, bliss, and infinite peace will counterbalance the negativity of 10 million people who calibrate to lower weakening levels.

                        ~One individual who lives and vibrates to the energy of grace, pure spirit beyond the body, in a world of non-duality or complete oneness, will counterbalance the negativity of 70 million people who calibrate to lower weakening levels.

                        vibrations....the energy we give off.....

                        i was thinking of Gideon's 300 men.....did they ''operate'' thru the maximum of divine energy so their enemy was destroyed?

                        i found it interesting to wonder about
                        what if.......this was so?
                        Last edited by LucySmith; 09-04-2007, 05:19 PM.

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                        • #13
                          what if........................................

                          we really understood

                          honey
                          a queen bee
                          Proverbs 31


                          did u know these 3 things have much in common that our ''eye'' does not automatically discern.

                          shall we begin to discover a WHAT IF? with honey the queen bee and proverbs 31

                          now i have to go to work.... so WBRB this evening. to write and think upon these 3 wonderfull things.....i really like what we can discover.

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                          • #14
                            what if..................................

                            The HONEY is symbolic of ''the Word of God''~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                            Proverbs 31 is a type of redeemed saved soul, no longer deceived but now as a Helpmeet to the Spiritual Man.

                            The Queen Bee....KNEW how to run her household, to the point, she is ''as sweet as Honey''.

                            Bees and Honey go together.
                            There is a group/cluster of stars called ''the Beehive'' in the constellation of Cancer.
                            Their name is Praesepe, meaning The Multitude, The Offspring, The Innumerable Seed. .- the people of faith who have come from the loins of Abraham.

                            We also have a HONEYMOON...where the virgin and her husband consumate their marriage.
                            or
                            Where our soul shall come out from her deceptions and be subdued and married and joined as one to her SPIRITUAL man.

                            a HoneyMoon is where the 2 realms touch.

                            then
                            we have the QUEEN BEE
                            ....OR.......
                            our soul now redeemed WHO NOW can be about THE FATHER'S BUSINESS, WITHOUT NEEDING continual correction.

                            leadership~!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                            In the natural Hive The Queen Bee lives far longer than her female works.
                            The female workers are sterile.

                            the Redeemed Soul lives the same kind of Life as her Messiah.
                            She is exceedingly fruitfull, yet around her thrive the masses of the unsaved souls who are sterile and are unable to reproduce the Kingdom of God.


                            Proverbs 31~~~~~~~~~~~~
                            this is a redeemed soul at work AND FULLY equiped to perform..
                            so
                            When the soul is under full redemption, the male Spirit, will seek out ways to please her, as she contains everything He desires, in his helpmeet.
                            Therefore this redeemed soul must seek out ways so her male Spirit CAN please her.
                            It is so important to be WELL PLEASING
                            why?
                            The male Spirit seeks to show His resources
                            therefore
                            the redeemed soul helpmeet is always impressed and seeks only to please Him.

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                            • #15
                              what if.....................................

                              we never ran out of things.

                              what if..................................
                              we lived in plenty~!

                              ''the Lord is MY SHEPHERD, i shall not want'' Ps 23 v 1

                              never want for health
                              never want for wealth
                              never want for supernatural abilities
                              never want for divine fullness
                              never want for life
                              never want for knowledge and wisdom.....

                              what if...............

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