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  • hey all.

    hello all.

    i been real busy. its good ;-]


    so spy i wanna say yes i understand what you say about the law.

    formine, there ius no way to obey the law without Christ in you.


    the law is not what changed me, love did, so in that sense i wanna grow in love.


    so lucy, im catching up on all yoyr posts now ;-]


    yall be blessed.

    love
    chuck
    Happy are those who are not perceiving and believe."

  • #2
    Ho! Euty

    u know somethin' i am learning?
    it is
    how to MANAGE my TIME .....................

    if we make time for HIS KINGDOM first thing.... He makes time for EVERYTHING ELSE in our day.
    BTW
    ONCE I NEVER HAD TIME, i was always so busy~~~~
    now i have all the time in the world. infinity looms over me. and i am becoming timeless.

    can i show you Plz.
    it's by revelation u see... but i shall tell... i am blabby cuz i love it when others come out from their ''to busy mis-managed zones.''

    i quess i could call this revelation
    ''BEING ABOUT the FATHER'S BUSINESS''.

    what He does is...... TEST US..

    the test is to see
    if we are into OUR BUSINESS first
    or
    HIS kingdom BUSINESS first.
    NOW~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    if WE SEEK His kingdom business first... He makes a way so we fit everything else into our day....or.... we learn how to manage our time properly.

    THE TEST IS ...HOW TO TRUST US, with His kingdom Business.
    HOW TO BE HIS CO-WORKER and get HIS WORK DONE, so that we shall have enough time for our necessary daily work.
    It is about FELLOWSHIP...first for His kingdom, then for our relationships.

    this revelation shall bring us into maturity a lot faster than being too busy and mis-managing our time.

    When we take time TO SPEAK OUT TRUTH.... we are doing HIS BUSINESS and not our own.
    Did you know its the devil who makes us too too busy.
    We are to learn how to take time and make it as nothing, so that time is NO more.
    And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
    can u come into that place...where u are no longer in time that makes u too busy? I seek His business and i dont care how long it takes me... then i have time for the rest of my day and i am never too busy.

    you know there are heaps of things we can do, when we begin to understand this principal - meaning- learn how to take that step out from 'time as we know it'.

    one is how to control/manage our environment....
    how to manage people around us
    how to move with the Spirit of LIFE rather than the deviL OF DEATH.
    WHAT WE ARE DOING IS LEARNING HOW TO USE wisdom..
    AS we can learn HOW TO STEP OUTSIDE of ''time''.
    perhaps i shall write about this,- CUZ MANY PEOPLE have religion, not many have LIFE.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LucySmith
      u know somethin' i am learning?
      it is
      how to MANAGE my TIME .....................

      if we make time for HIS KINGDOM first thing.... He makes time for EVERYTHING ELSE in our day.
      BTW
      ONCE I NEVER HAD TIME, i was always so busy~~~~
      now i have all the time in the world. infinity looms over me. and i am becoming timeless.

      can i show you Plz.
      it's by revelation u see... but i shall tell... i am blabby cuz i love it when others come out from their ''to busy mis-managed zones.''

      i quess i could call this revelation
      ''BEING ABOUT the FATHER'S BUSINESS''.

      what He does is...... TEST US..

      the test is to see
      if we are into OUR BUSINESS first
      or
      HIS kingdom BUSINESS first.
      NOW~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      if WE SEEK His kingdom business first... He makes a way so we fit everything else into our day....or.... we learn how to manage our time properly.

      THE TEST IS ...HOW TO TRUST US, with His kingdom Business.
      HOW TO BE HIS CO-WORKER and get HIS WORK DONE, so that we shall have enough time for our necessary daily work.
      It is about FELLOWSHIP...first for His kingdom, then for our relationships.

      this revelation shall bring us into maturity a lot faster than being too busy and mis-managing our time.

      When we take time TO SPEAK OUT TRUTH.... we are doing HIS BUSINESS and not our own.
      Did you know its the devil who makes us too too busy.
      We are to learn how to take time and make it as nothing, so that time is NO more.

      can u come into that place...where u are no longer in time that makes u too busy? I seek His business and i dont care how long it takes me... then i have time for the rest of my day and i am never too busy.

      you know there are heaps of things we can do, when we begin to understand this principal - meaning- learn how to take that step out from 'time as we know it'.

      one is how to control/manage our environment....
      how to manage people around us
      how to move with the Spirit of LIFE rather than the deviL OF DEATH.
      WHAT WE ARE DOING IS LEARNING HOW TO USE wisdom..
      AS we can learn HOW TO STEP OUTSIDE of ''time''.
      perhaps i shall write about this,- CUZ MANY PEOPLE have religion, not many have LIFE.





      hello lucy.

      its funny how even when i busy with work or whatever my mind is on and connected with God.

      i understand what it means to pray without ceasing, what a wonderefull gift from the Lord.


      here at work we know have five who fellowship and are growing together, the Lord saw fit for me even to plant seed with the owner, GLORY GLORY.


      my daughter who is 22 is also asking about God, WOOOOOOO!!!!!!


      idle hands are the devils workshop eh???


      Pro 19:15 Slothfulness casteth into a deep sleep; and an idle soul shall suffer hunger


      so hows everything down under?


      peace and grace to you Lucy.

      love
      chuck
      Happy are those who are not perceiving and believe."

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      • #4
        Keeping Law?

        Hi Eutychus,

        Can I show you something about law keeping?

        The Torah commands all to do this:
        Deuteronomy 16:1
        1 Observe the month (new moon) of Abib (KJV)
        Why? What does "observe" imply?
        shâmar
        shaw-mar'
        A primitive root; properly to hedge about (as with thorns)
        , that is, guard; generally to protect, attend to, etc.: - beware, be circumspect, take heed (to self), keep (-er, self), mark, look narrowly, observe, preserve, regard, reserve, save (self), sure, (that lay) wait (for), watch (-man).
        The New Moon of Abib marks the beginning of the Hebrew religious year.

        There exist a number of holy days that occur in the 7th month (moon). Without establishing the first moon, one would not know when the 7th moon should be.

        In a physical sense, I along with two other believers just established the beginning of the 7th moon by observing the new moon.

        The 1st day of the 7th moon is the only holy day which cannot be predicted beforehand. This is loaded with spiritual meaning for us.

        Leaving that aside, let's look at some of what is commanded must occur on that holy day!;
        Num 29:1-6
        1 And in the seventh month, on the first day of the month, ye shall have a holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work: it is a day of blowing the trumpets unto you.
        2 And ye shall offer a burnt offering for a sweet savor unto YAHWEH; one young bullock, one ram, and seven lambs of the first year without blemish:
        3 And their meat offering shall be of flour mingled with oil, three tenth deals for a bullock, and two tenth deals for a ram,
        4 And one tenth deal for one lamb, throughout the seven lambs:
        5 And one kid of the goats for a sin offering, to make an atonement for you:
        6 Beside the burnt offering of the month, and his meat offering, and the daily burnt offering, and his meat offering, and their drink offerings, according unto their manner, for a sweet savor, a sacrifice made by fire unto YAHWEH. (KJV)
        So, we are required to offer burnt offerings.

        Obviously, Messiah Yahushua is our burnt offering. I have to ask, how were you enabled to keep these commands?

        Sincerely, Ab
        The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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        • #5
          Obviously, Messiah Yahushua is our burnt offering. I have to ask, how were you enabled to keep these commands?

          Sincerely, Ab[/QUOTE]


          im lost to what you are getting at.

          for mine.

          it is no longer i who live but christ in me.

          i boast in nothing of my own, i myself can do nothing but sin.

          Christ in me is my only hope.

          behold all things are new.


          thanks but can you explain what your getting at??



          what commands am i to keep?


          peace
          chuck
          Happy are those who are not perceiving and believe."

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          • #6
            Messiah In Us!

            Hi Eutychus,

            I am really asking you to look at everything you think you know in a new manner!

            Consider these things: Messiah is the WORD, and Messiah is LOVE. The Law is a huge part of the WORD so the Torah is a huge part of LOVE. Messiah is the completion of the Law (Romans 10:4) so Messiah is the completion of LOVE!

            Sin is the transgression of the Law so sin is the transgression of LOVE. There is no sin in Messiah!

            If Messiah is the completion of the Law unto righteousness, and if Messiah is in you, as you boast, then there should exist a way for you yourself to accomplish what you have been commanded through Messiah (through Love, through the Law). This is especially true when we consider that the Torah is our Paidagogos unto Messiah (Galatians 3:24)! Have you listened to your Paidagogos?

            How did the Torah (Love), the Paidagogos, bring you to Messiah? If you truly answer this question, then you will know what commands (love) you are to keep!

            Sincerely, Ab
            The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Spying
              Hi Eutychus,

              I am really asking you to look at everything you think you know in a new manner!

              Consider these things: Messiah is the WORD, and Messiah is LOVE. The Law is a huge part of the WORD so the Torah is a huge part of LOVE. Messiah is the completion of the Law (Romans 10:4) so Messiah is the completion of LOVE!

              Sin is the transgression of the Law so sin is the transgression of LOVE. There is no sin in Messiah!

              If Messiah is the completion of the Law unto righteousness, and if Messiah is in you, as you boast, then there should exist a way for you yourself to accomplish what you have been commanded through Messiah (through Love, through the Law). This is especially true when we consider that the Torah is our Paidagogos unto Messiah (Galatians 3:24)! Have you listened to your Paidagogos?

              How did the Torah (Love), the Paidagogos, bring you to Messiah? If you truly answer this question, then you will know what commands (love) you are to keep!

              Sincerely, Ab




              still not getting you brother:

              23 Now before the coming of faith we were garrisoned under law, being locked up together for the faith about to be revealed.
              24 So that the law has become our escort to Christ, that we may be justified by faith.
              25 Now, at the coming of faith, we are no longer under an escort,
              26 for you are all sons of God, through faith in Christ Jesus.
              27 For whoever are baptized into Christ, put on Christ,
              28 in Whom there is no Jew nor yet Greek, there is no slave nor yet free, there is no male and female, for you all are one in Christ Jesus.
              29 Now if you are Christ's, consequently you are of Abraham's seed, enjoyers of the allotment according to the promise.





              the only commands i seek to keep are


              to love EL ELYON with ALL my being.

              to love my neighbor as myself.


              am i wrong???


              thanks
              chuck
              Happy are those who are not perceiving and believe."

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              • #8
                Loving With A Whole Heart!

                Hi Eutychus,

                No, you are not wrong in your seeking because as you fully are aware the whole Law and all the Prophets rest on those two commandments. They are the foundation of every commandment in the Law.

                The Love of ELOHIM therefore requires that you offer burnt offerings upon the first day of the 7th MOON, does it not? These commands to offer burnt offerings are also a directive of your Paidagogos. If you love ELOHIM, and if you desire to arrive at Messiah, you will make certain that you accomplish what you have been commanded, that is, should you desire to be with Messiah and no longer be under the care of your Paidagogos.

                One, who does not complete the Law, does not love with a whole heart, and therefore, remains apart from Messiah under the Paidagogos!

                To arrive at Messiah, we must do everything commanded!

                Now, here is where faith enters our discussion. The righteous one shall live by his faith!

                There exist two ways to love with a whole heart. There exist two ways to fulfill what the Paidagogos has commanded in order that we might arrive at Messiah:
                • Offer a physical bullock on the 1st Day of the next 7th Moon (Numbers 29:2).
                • Or through faith accept the fact that you have already offered Messiah Yahushua as your bullock (Numbers 29:2)
                What happens if you should be so bold as to claim that you have offered Messiah? Well, the very next thing that I will ask you is how in all the world did you accomplish this task or arrive at this faith?

                You know the answer! We have talked about this before.

                In order to arrive at Messiah, the Paidagogos must be obeyed. So how do you love with a whole heart here? How did you offer Messiah?

                Sincerely, Ab
                The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                • #9
                  Our Paidagogos!

                  Hi Eutychus,
                  In order to arrive at Messiah, the Paidagogos must be obeyed.
                  The Paidagogos was a slave. It was his duty to conduct his master's sons to school, and then bring them home again. This slave knew the way to school. Initially, the child did not. This is why the child needed the services of a Paidagogos. The Paidagogos was also somewhat of a truant officer. He made certain that his master's sons went to school.

                  The Paidagogos would give his charges directions. He would say things like this: Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy. Do the children listen? No, most run in the opposite direction.

                  Remembering the Sabbath Day to keep it holy is an important step in the walk to Messiah, but few take the Paidagogos seriously. They imagine that they need not obey an old slave.

                  The Paidagogos sees their disrespect and their disobedience so he calls after his charges with commandments just perfect for them. He commands them to sacrifice. Why?

                  This is something that is very easy for them. This is something that they are already doing. It is like commanding a child to run when the child is already running.

                  At some point, the child will pause to consider, and properly, the child will be horrified by his obedience, and the child will understand that the Paidagogos must be obeyed for it is impossible to completely disobey the Paidagogos. Why?

                  The Paidagogos used our disobedience, our overt sin, and through the command to sacrifice and the work of Messiah (the Cross), this very sin was made into obedience for us. It is a gift of righteousness that comes by grace, and this gift is apprehended by faith.

                  I say all this for all those Christians out there that imagine that they have come to Messiah without obeying the Paidagogos.

                  Sincerely, Ab
                  The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                  • #10
                    hello AB.

                    are you saying i must keep saturday? as sabbath?

                    thanks
                    chuck
                    Happy are those who are not perceiving and believe."

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                    • #11
                      Come Be With ME!

                      Hi Eutychus,

                      Why are you asking me? What does your Paidagogos say? Or better yet, what does the ONE, whom you claim is in you, what does Messiah say? If you have arrived at Messiah, you belong to HIM, not to me! So, ask HIM!

                      This is indeed amazing to me. For centuries, Christianity has put forth the claim that they dwell in Messiah or that Messiah dwells in them, and then they all grow all, and they all get sick, and they all die. They never think to wonder how in all the world all this disobedience and sin, and sickness, and death could dwell in and with Messiah, and so they never repent, and they speedily die?

                      Eutychus, if you have arrived at Messiah, you will cleanse yourself at that point of all overt disobedience. Why?

                      With the Paidagogos, sin is obedience. If you sacrificed Messiah through your sin, you did so at the direction of your Paidagogos. As long as you continue to overtly sin, and sin is the transgression of the Law, you show me and all others who have the eyes to see, that you are yet under the Law. You are under the Law because you are obeying the Law's command to sacrifice.

                      It is just the opposite of what you have been taught all your life. The only way to prove that you are not under the Law is to cease from your sin. The solution is repentance and burial of the sinner if you indeed have arrived at Messiah.

                      So, there you have it. The first directive of Messiah is this: Repent and be baptized for the ceasing of your sin, and come be with ME!

                      Sincerely, Ab
                      The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Spying
                        Hi Eutychus,

                        Why are you asking me? What does your Paidagogos say? Or better yet, what does the ONE, whom you claim is in you, what does Messiah say? If you have arrived at Messiah, you belong to HIM, not to me! So, ask HIM!

                        This is indeed amazing to me. For centuries, Christianity has put forth the claim that they dwell in Messiah or that Messiah dwells in them, and then they all grow all, and they all get sick, and they all die. They never think to wonder how in all the world all this disobedience and sin, and sickness, and death could dwell in and with Messiah, and so they never repent, and they speedily die?

                        Eutychus, if you have arrived at Messiah, you will cleanse yourself at that point of all overt disobedience. Why?

                        With the Paidagogos, sin is obedience. If you sacrificed Messiah through your sin, you did so at the direction of your Paidagogos. As long as you continue to overtly sin, and sin is the transgression of the Law, you show me and all others who have the eyes to see, that you are yet under the Law. You are under the Law because you are obeying the Law's command to sacrifice.

                        It is just the opposite of what you have been taught all your life. The only way to prove that you are not under the Law is to cease from your sin. The solution is repentance and burial of the sinner if you indeed have arrived at Messiah.

                        So, there you have it. The first directive of Messiah is this: Repent and be baptized for the ceasing of your sin, and come be with ME!

                        Sincerely, Ab



                        AB.

                        the one inside me says to keep everyday holy.

                        from one month to the next from one moon the next is my sabbath and
                        all the days between.


                        i wish i understood what your saying.

                        i am sorry for the loss of understanding.


                        all flesh will die.

                        there is a physicall body and a spiritual body.

                        the spiritual body in me is alive, when this physical dies i shead and live on.


                        corruption must put on incorruption


                        peace
                        euty
                        Happy are those who are not perceiving and believe."

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                        • #13
                          Euty

                          why DO you physically DIE.
                          and why do all
                          ''church'' people die and have graves.
                          REMEMBERING THIS.........the wages of sin is death
                          so
                          what causes your Physical death when u have repented and been forgiven?
                          only sinners should die, for sin is breaking the law.

                          WHO!!!!! DO YOU WORK FOR, that pays you in death's wages?
                          think about it Chuck.


                          Spying, is asking you this question using other phrases from the Law of the OT. making u think to gain understanding.

                          If Messiah LIVES IN you as your'e claiming, Messiah should be telling you all about your spirit, your soul and your body and how to PUT OFF mortal.... to become IMMORTAL as a command from the NT.
                          these revelations [John 11] come from the Holy Spirit out from His classes and daily Lectures on LIFE NOW MADE AVAILABLE FOR YOU TODAY IF... you hear MY VOICE.
                          or
                          HOW TO WALK IN THE EXACT SAME TYPE OF LIFE-FORCE AS our Messiah WALKED IN.

                          His type of LIFE-FORCE.... could never die.
                          why?
                          because HE IS ''''''THE''''''' LIFE.
                          If He never gave UP His life for the sacrifice on the cross etc. He would still be here alive today, walking this planet appearing as a young man of 33yrs approx. FOR NO DEATH, could be found IN Him.
                          He is the pattern son...... to be His image we are to be conformed into His likeness.......ALL OF IT not just bits.....
                          why? because
                          even physical DEATH IS NOT found IN THE LIFE.
                          IF
                          Messiah is IN us, HIS LIFE would be IN us.
                          THE LIFE HE IS, WOULD BE OUR LIFE.... therefore NO physical death could happen to us.That is impossible.

                          yet
                          death happens to worldly people + church goers, everyday yet, some people claim '' Christ lives IN me''.

                          People say ''God took him... that's not true, SIN TOOK that dead person. That dead person was just receiving his wages. Their greatest enemy took them, they never learnt HOW TO OVERCOME their last enemy.
                          now....
                          we have to understand what is death so we can escape physical death too.
                          SO
                          we find DEATH IS OUR CARNAL MIND...or a mind that satan controls...
                          or the Matrix...
                          which is everywhere, you cannot see it, and you cannot touch it and you cannot smell it... but it is all around you and it stinks up everything everywhere.

                          WHAT IS THE MATRIX? = The Matrix explained is...living INside a lie and not able to discern it

                          But the funny thing is this......the TRUTH IS IN PLAIN SIGHT

                          STARING
                          AT
                          YOU
                          IN THE FACE,

                          ONCE YOU SEE THE TRUTH [be revelation] YOU WILL NEVER BELIEVE THE LIE AGAIN.

                          hardly anyone CAN SEE THE TRUTH ...
                          oh! they claim they do, but that is a form of godliness, so most dont.
                          MOST ALL MEN, have a form of truth BUT NOT THE TRUTH, for if they HAD THE TRUTH, they would never be able to live in THE LIE.

                          the lie that is accepted is the inevitability of death.
                          inevitability - certain, not avoidable, surely necessary.

                          they miss
                          2 tim 1 v 10 and Roms 2 v 7.
                          they miss John 8 v 51. and John 11 v 24- 25 -26. etc etc etc....

                          eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil causes OUR death.
                          eating from THE TREE OF LIFE, causes our abundant LIFE.[John 10 v 10]

                          What has to be changed in us.... is TO learn the real life Truth, then never depart from it's course and OBEY what THE TRUTH says, by not leaning on our own understanding, but by allowing ''THY WILL BE DONE'' boldly in our lives.
                          We have to be CONVERTED into a new creation, that happens to us by a NEW WAY OF THINKING called metamoorphoo...
                          a changed form....
                          a changed form
                          a changed form
                          a changed form
                          see Math 17 v 2... that change...that change...that change....
                          that change, that change, that change.by having a new mind placed in us and giving up, THE mind of satan
                          therefore
                          OUR THINKING, is no longer controlled by satan, but BY CHRIST.
                          THIS IS A PROGRESSIVE WALK, as HE appears in us, the more we obey, the MORE HE appears, till that day arrives when WE ARE BLAMELESS in spirit, soul and body, changed in a twinkling of an eye, redeemed, renewed, resurrected out from the dead and into THE HOPE OF GLORY where we have finally become His patterned life, His Brethren amen.

                          we die IN sin - our wages are paid in full by our physical death, because we were never renewed in our mind
                          or
                          we die to sin- we have learnt to OVERCOME all things in Christ by the renewing of our mind


                          our carnal mind is ''our flesh'' Messiah walked in THE FLESH, but NOT in the carnal mind.

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                          • #14
                            CONT.. Unless THE TRUTH, is found IN us...

                            we can never believe THE TRUTH....
                            The Truth = IS A PERSON = The Word of God.
                            Those who LOVE NOT THE TRUTH, cannot be set free.

                            Spying has lovingly posted to us all on this word...
                            do we then BELIEVE what this word means................................
                            Paidagogos
                            now I post on this verse...
                            John 8 v 51
                            lovingly.
                            in bible numerics.... we see No 8 = resurrection/new beginnings
                            in bible numerics ....we see No 51 = divine revelation.

                            do you believe that ?
                            THE TRUTH is staring out at you, but do you believe it...

                            NOTICE.
                            HIS NEW LIFE saint SHALL
                            AND
                            only THESE type of people WILL DO SO by His ''life message'' revealed to them by the Holy Spirit.

                            Well, ofcourse. some people can say '' Lucy it really does not mean that''

                            and so i ask why?
                            ''well everyone dies''... can be their reply
                            so i can say back
                            ''so everyone is right, I have to believe what everyone else does but not the Word of the Lord written for my instruction''?

                            so let us re-look here.
                            do a quick study

                            Jesus said '' VERILY, VERILY'' Ok.. let us stop of a minute here and look at this word.
                            verily means
                            TAKE VERY IMPORTANT NOTICE OF,
                            AGREE WITH WHAT I SAY,
                            I am saying VERILY twice to impress upon you what I say is the truth!
                            it is so important to notice this word.
                            cont.
                            I say unto you [ ask, Can i trust Jesus information here on this]
                            IF !!! NOTICE THE CONDITION OF THE WORD... if....
                            ANY MAN KEEP MY SAVINGS, HE SHALL NEVER
                            [ at any time, ever never forever] see death.


                            That's what He said for us to take notice of...

                            Oh well But but but~!~!~!... COMES the carnal mind and its satanic thinking...
                            .
                            well
                            let us consider this ~!~!~! and let ACTIONS SPEAK louder than words.

                            ask
                            ''Did Messiah
                            KEEP HIS FATHER'S SAYINGS,
                            HEED THEM,
                            TAKE THEM IN AND LIVE IN THEM''?

                            yes He did. HE CAME, to do only His father's will....
                            is that right?
                            so
                            MESSIAH IS KNOWN AS ''THE LIFE''..
                            so...
                            He could not die as a man.
                            DEATH could have NO hold upon Him, as He said of Himself He said ''I AM THE LIFE''

                            is that right?
                            yes/no/maybe

                            Messiah GAVE UP His life, HE DID NOT DIE from any form of human sin nor disease, worn out by old age etc, but GAVE of Himself for the sins of the world
                            is this right?
                            yes/no/maybe

                            Therefore it has to be said... MESSIAH'S WALK doing the commands or will of His Father, stopped Him from all forms of physical death... infact 11 times it was recorded for our observation in the Gospels the Religious tried to kill Him, but ''He disappeared from their midst''... unharmed... till the time came for the divine working plan to unfold.

                            now...
                            let us consider this.
                            Why don't we LEARN how to OBEY THE WILL OF THE FATHER LIKE MESSIAH did, looking at Him as our model..
                            so that...
                            WE can ESCAPE all the corruption satan wants us to fall into....ummmm...

                            Why do we ''accept'' death...but...OUR Messiah NEVER walked down that highway of death?

                            Death is an enemy NOT A FRIEND but a cruel foe that needs to be overcome and destroyed...LET US LEARN to shut its gaping jaws against our lives and those we love.
                            MESSIAH NOW HOLDS THE KEYS... to death and hell ..Rev 1 v 18

                            SO, instead of accepting satan's ultimate ploy, why not ask MESSIAH, to show you, those KEYS, MEANING = THE KEYS TO HIS KINGDOM... that shall stop your death at the hands of your last enemy?

                            when we have gotten the Victory over all death, OVER THE BEAST and his number,[the devilish carnal reasonings] our mind is sealed by Abba AND WE HAVE BECOME .... A PILLAR.... in His temple called Truth.

                            when
                            Steve Irwin was killed, i went into 3days of mourning...
                            i did not do it myself, this great mourning overcame me.
                            I did not know this man personally... but this one man represented the zeal of life and adventure to this world. He was so zealous about all he did, but, so real to the people and so filled with the life of this world..but that did not save him. The enemy of the carnal mind killed him... death.. and his family is crushed....
                            Steve Irwin may have known how to fight and capture those live crocs.... but alas...he never knew how to slay that crocodile within.



                            ummm
                            something to ponder over hey?

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                            • #15
                              The Sprinkling!

                              Hi Eutychus,

                              The Paidagogos knows the way to Messiah.

                              It is HIS job to lead all of us to Messiah (Galatians 3:24, John 12:32).

                              On the surface, every commandment is a step towards Messiah, and every sin is a step away.

                              Through obedience we move towards Messiah, and through disobedience we move away from Messiah.

                              All have disobeyed so how do any of us ever arrive at Messiah?

                              The Paidagogos is really good at HIS job (Romans 7:12). HE is a whole lot smarter than we are so it is easy for HIM to outsmart us (Isaiah 55:9)! We all are naturally disobedient. Our momentum is always negative, it is always away from Messiah, and the Paidagogos knows this well. So the Paidagogos calls after us with commandments that are in full accord with and that take full advantage of our sinful nature to deliver us unto Messiah. These commandments all revolve around sacrifice.

                              Right here, to see and understand this, Eutychus, you must begin to look at the Law (the Paidagogos) on a different level (Romans 7:14). You must look at the Law on a spiritual level. This is why I showed you Numbers 19, and this is why I asked you if your sin killed Messiah. I was hopeful that you yourself were one of the ELECT, one of those called to think on this level.

                              On the spiritual level, your sin of not remembering the Sabbath Day to keep it holy, or your sin of forgetting the Sabbath, or your sin of making it like any other day, is really, on the higher spiritual level, righteousness because this sin fulfills the Law of Sacrifice perfectly. The Paidagogos demands that we kill and slay our sacrifices, and it is our sin which slays our spiritual sacrifice, Messiah Yahushua.

                              When I was allowed to understand this truth, I was properly stunned and horrified by what I had done (Ezekiel 20:26, Isaiah 52:14)! This righteousness was as bloody menstrual rags to me (Isaiah 64:6). Looking up at the Cross, looking up at Messiah Yahushua who gave HIS life for me, I knew what I must do, and I repented of all my sin!

                              I wanted no more of this grace, this gift of righteousness (Romans 5:20). Could I continue in my sin that grace may abound (Romans 6:1)? Absolutely Not! How could anyone knowingly, deliberately participate in the horrible death of an innocent man (Hebrews 6:6, Hebrews 10:26)?

                              I know that these things are hard to understand, but as I have said, I am hopeful for you! What are going to do now that you have, in my humble opinion, been properly sprinkled (Numbers 19:18, Isaiah 52:15)?

                              Sincerely, Ab
                              The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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