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  • Having a SUBMISSIVE attitude towards death

    We are all PROGRAMMED to have this same attitude, that death will somehow overtake us.

    THAT IS HUMAN PERCEPTION AND EVIL PROGRAMMING...
    it is very successfully hey~!

    a chain of pain continues from one generation into the next


    http://www.davidgoughart.com/cheating_death.htm
    this art should say '' accepting death as a lover'' IMHO.

    to 'overcome death'' OUR LAST ENEMY, AN OVERCOMER HAS to have a changed mind, with a changed attitude.
    We are to CAST OFF our passive approach, and BEGIN TO LIVE AS MESSIAH AND WALK IN HIS FOOTSTEPS OF LIFE.
    BUT HANG ON LUCY.....
    some shall query...

    but
    look hear and take in ok...
    DEATH
    IS
    AN
    ENEMY..... TO BE OVERCOME.... NOT ACCEPTED.

    JESUS HAD LIFE
    WHY DONT WE HAVE HIS LIFE TOO, MEANING A LIFE THAT CANNOT DIE?

    Messiah WANTS US.... TO CONQUER AS HE CONQUERED.
    SO
    why not petition Abba, so we can understand HOW TO BE RELEASED.

    notice this plx...
    the bible treats death as an enemy. see (1 Cor. 15.26).
    so
    in our heart we MUST OPPOSE death and study and understand and listen and learn HOW TO OVERTHROW IT'S STRENGTH.

    This is OUR DUTY for NO GOOD SOLDIER should really
    FALL INTO THE HANDS OF HIS ENEMY.

    Messiah WAS A GREAT SOLDIER... AND A MODEL FOR OUR OWN LIVES.

    “I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and whoever lives and believes in me shall never die” (John 11.25-26).
    THIS DIVINE TRUTH, HAS TO GIVE US KNOWING, SO WE CAN SINK INTO ITS WISDOM AND THEN know HOW TO LISTEN FOR OUR personal ORDERS THAT OVERCOME the grave.

  • #2
    'my will'' ''THY WILL''....''THE'' WILL.

    THE WILL, is a document for an INHERITANCE,

    MESSIAH did ''thy will'' meaning His father's will AND RECEIVED THAT INHERITANCE.
    if
    i do ''my will'' i receive NO divine inheritance.

    there are 3 wills.

    'THY ' WILL, is for His saint to OVERCOME death, Just as The Son, overcome.

    that is THE WILL that inherits.

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    • #3
      could our problem be we are NOT God conscious

      see Ps 82 v 6.
      Jesus QUOTED this scripture....
      Messiah TAUGHT overcoming physical death~!

      John 8:51 Jesus said: "If a man keep my saying, he will never die."
      bible no 8 - new beginnings/resurrection life
      bible no 51 - divine revelation...

      to walk IN THE SAME LIFE AS MESSIAH... we need DIVINE REVELATION on this.

      Spying and I have had this.
      That is why he is a blessing to me...Ab blesses me with Messiah's presence of REAL LIFE.
      i HAVE FOUND ANOTHER PERSON like myself who POSSESSES living real true LIFE. amen

      Messiah had a BODY THE SHONE....
      MESSIAH EXPECTS us to be the same
      THE SAME TYPE OF BEING.... IN SHINING BODIES.[MATH 17]
      He EXPOSED his real body to 3 eye witnesses... and with His real body He was a light being in an earthen vessel.
      When we OBEY the Word, we are cleansed from sin... sin makes us dead.
      We have to realise who we are [Ps 82 v 6] and HOW NOT TO DIE AS mere men.

      our outstanding need is TO EMPHASISE....
      THE RISEN LORD.
      and listen to His words NOT the words of 'the church'.
      next
      to EMPHASISE how to OVERCOME our sin.
      satan shall birth a desire in our mind,
      we are to SLAY THAT DESIRE, if it contains hurts and evil for us and others and REJECT the injected thinking of evil if we can practice this over and over.... sin dies in us and LIFE BECOMES ours as we are as MESSIAH.. cuz that is exactly what He did.~!~!
      We STOP that desire with a positive NO~!~!~!
      SO
      LET US LEARN TO SAY NO....NO IS HARD TO SAY-We need strong determination in our hearts.
      Job 31:1;
      pS 101:3-4
      Consider Paul. 1 Cor. 9:27
      BUT WE HAVE TO LEARN,

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      • #4
        seek ye first the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN

        IS A COMMAND

        do u think death lives in this kingdom?


        do u know our little problem?
        WE ARE NOT SPIRITUALLY AMBITIOUS.


        TO BE SPIRITUALLY AMBITIOUS IS TO DESIRE ABBA'S best He has on offer.

        so
        do u think the same LIFE POWER as His Son has.. IS HIS BEST OFFER for u?

        OR
        are we so dumbed down, we dont care?
        and so
        our life just like a game of poker.

        If the same Spirit is in us as in CHRIST, why are we not more ardent, robust, zealous and courageous... so we GRAB VERY BLESSING available, and benefit from His cross with JOY UNSPEAKABLE?

        why dont we LUST AFTER IMMORTALITY?
        crave it
        desire it
        need it

        You know we are even asked to PUT OFF OUR MORTAL.... ask
        Then what are we going to wear if we are putting off our mortals?

        We are to be dressed in immortality....the same dress as Messiah.
        makes u think hey?

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        • #5
          research is conducted on ''images of death''

          and death's effects and impact upon people.
          Ethical and moral views are taken upon the familiarity of death
          people actually study death.

          if something is ''familiar'' it becomes a friend.yet the bible tells us ..it is an ENEMY.

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          • #6
            what i do find surprising is...

            nt/
            opps the puter had a brain trauma...
            Last edited by LucySmith; 06-23-2006, 06:13 AM.

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            • #7
              what i do find surprising is...

              not too many people will teach on

              Immortality & incorruption coming together as a package deal.
              THIS TRUTH IS HIDDEN, under a mass of misconceptions and illusions of this world.

              If someone is corrupted, how can they teach on Incorruption?...
              This ofcourse would be the farthest thing from their minds, all because most people are SKILLED in the ARTS OF CORRUPTIONS.


              read this till it sinks in thru that fog~!~!

              ''For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.''

              when a person READS THIS verse... do they think like ....''dah this is when i die?''
              BUT~!
              the word description of immortal means NO DEATH HAS EVER TOUCHED THIS PERSON'S LIFE.
              COMMON FOLKS... lets all TURN THE KEY OF KNOWLEDGE AND get a life.~!~!

              NOW
              LET IS SEE A 2ND WITNESS TO ESTABLISH TRUTH AS A SPIRITUAL WITNESS. AMEN

              Roman 2 V 7

              To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life.
              WHY ARE WE ASKED TO SEEK SEEK SEEK SEEK
              IF
              IT IS ALL TOO TOO IMPOSSIBLE TO EVEN FIND?
              is it is the case of
              '' Houston we have a problem~!~!''


              Athanasia=

              Literally "deathlessness" (a, negative, thanatos, "death"), is rendered "immortality" in 1 Cor. 15:53,54, of the glorified body of the believer; 1 Tim. 6:16, of the nature of God.

              ASK
              is this all too much for our earth-bound brains to comprehend?
              now ask this
              [SIZE="4 dont u think Messiah has to have A BBODY OF GLORY TO DWELL WITHIN?SIZE]

              WHY NOT FIND OUT FOR YOURSELVES~!
              HOW NOT TO PERISH.
              ACTUALLY
              I DONT THINK PERISHING IS all that TRENDY.... IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
              Last edited by LucySmith; 06-23-2006, 06:14 AM.

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              • #8
                The Best Kept Secret!

                Hi Lucy Smith,

                As usual this is really good. Will anyone believe this our report?

                Too many of us are programmed to meekly accept death. The "a" in front of "athanasia" means "without" death just like the "a" in front of anomos means without Torah or Law.

                Believers are not anti death. Indeed, in Messiah we use death daily, if need be, to prove that we are actually athanasia (without death)! Believers put to death their love affair or attachment with death by two things:
                • We kill sin in our lives! (Some sins are more difficult to kill than others!) And
                • We do those things which promote life! (The practice of Love, Love is the fulfillment of the Torah)
                It is the spiritual activity or fulfillment of the Torah that really makes us shine.

                I mean, you are really shining, my Lady, -----not a day over 25 (years young), I say-----when you freely give of your time and energy (to sprinkle) so that others may come to a knowledge of the Truth and hopefully learn themselves how to be "without" death.

                Those who have made a covenant with death naturally grow old, and look old, and eventually get sick and die. This is not so with Believers. We grow older! We show age, but not a day over 25 as renewed life and vitality shines forth from us!

                Besides the Immortals of the First Witness, eventhough shining, we are still the best kept secret in the Matrix!

                Sincerely, Ab
                The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                • #9
                  u just post a few words Ab and i am blessed

                  already~!

                  the words u used are


                  ''the world's best kept secret''.



                  ofcourse.
                  i never realised this before u said it..... the best kept secret.....

                  it has to be a revelation and even just reading our posts on LIFE NOW/resurrection life today... shall.... never convince anyone, as most shall ROTFL

                  It is up to 'kings' to search out these secrets so sayeth the bible....
                  and
                  only ''kings'' receive His revelation so that THEY CAN MATURE INTO THAT kingship... and...then know their destiny and walk in the steps that make their destiny come to pass.....they create their future BY REVELATION from Messiah so that ''the gates of hell/grave shall not prevail''

                  that is why THEY CANNOT PERISH...
                  cuz
                  they are walking in the destiny of KNOWING and living out that destiny daily.

                  You and me have the same destiny.
                  That is why the Spirit makes us so blessed even at thousands of miles apart the blessing grows....cuz The Spirit is not fixed to time and to distance.
                  it is flowing and growing time.~!
                  and
                  what is more...
                  we have no age like carnal minded men, we are forever young and vital and alive, cuz HIS NEW TYPE OF LIFE IS POURING INTO US daily as we learn to experience His presence~!

                  can it get any better than this Ab?



                  '

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                  • #10
                    cont the best kept secret



                    Spying here are the words to FOREVER young.

                    ''May the good lord be with you
                    Down every road you roam
                    And may sunshine and happiness
                    Surround you when youre far from home
                    And may you grow to be proud
                    Dignified and true
                    And do unto others
                    As youd have done to you
                    Be courageous and be brave
                    And in my heart youll always stay
                    Forever young, forever young
                    Forever young, forever young

                    May good fortune be with you
                    May your guiding light be strong
                    Build a stairway to heaven
                    With a prince or a vagabond

                    And may you never love in vain
                    And in my heart you will remain
                    Forever young, forever young
                    Forever young, forever young
                    Forever young
                    Forever young

                    And when you finally fly away
                    Ill be hoping that I served you well
                    For all the wisdom of a lifetime
                    No one can ever tell

                    But whatever road you choose
                    Im right behind you, win or lose
                    Forever young, forever young
                    Forever young ,forever young
                    Forever young, forever young
                    For, forever young, forever young''


                    http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rod+ste..._20117403.html
                    rod stewart.
                    meaning
                    rod of authority
                    stewart - steward/keeper of the house..

                    people are seeking the fountain of youth, never to understand it is right under their noses....truth can be hidden, even when it is staring us in the face.

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                    • #11
                      what happens to all these people?

                      their lives
                      their dreams
                      their birth and their deaths...

                      recorded as a number today....


                      http://www.worldometers.info/

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                      • #12
                        cont

                        when THE KNOWLEDGE of TRUTH comes, our worshipping of death shall cease.

                        Death ~!that last enemy is OVERCOME by the full knowledge that death is already defeated.

                        This has to be a revelation so that a person can fight death and move into Glory.


                        it is ignorance, that causes people to perish.
                        it is ignorance, that cannot understand Abba's GLORY.

                        When the KNOWLEDGE and the Truth come together all of a sudden the interpretation makes clear sense and the veil of unknowing and ignorance is lifted.
                        Prov.1. v 22-23.

                        how long shall people love deception and flattery?
                        how long shall the scorners scorn Widom?
                        how long shall fools hate Wisdom?
                        turn and be converted,
                        then I shall pour out My Spirit and I will MAKE KNOWN My words to you.

                        For Zion's Sake [ the people of the Lord- the city not made with hands] I shall not be silent, as she comes forth with brightness and her Salvation as a burning torch.

                        death consists of lies, ignorance and folly.

                        LIFE - there is only ONE LIFE, and is typified in the life of OUR SAVIOUR.
                        WHEN we receive the same type of knowledge Messiah lives with, we will not see death why? Because His type of LIFE, defeats and abolishes our death.

                        or

                        defeats our sin, our folly and our madness.

                        When we learn the truth and become wise to our own salvation, this Truth is so powerfull, it ripples out and changes our perception.

                        WE 'SEE', where we were once blinded, NOW WE SEE....= recognise TRUTH AS A POWER.
                        The 'night' we live in, suddenly is removed and BRIGHTNESS comes as our understanding is altered to give us the power of change-over thinking.


                        let us look at 2 words
                        LIVED
                        DEVIL


                        NOTICE the 2 WORDS SPELT BACKWARDS...lived/devil

                        2 types of life
                        2 choices
                        2 understandings

                        TRUTH SHOWS US... HOW TO LIVE AND DEFEAT THE DEVIL.

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