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  • 'Trinity'-a picture/analogy of an Overcomer.

    a study i did of an Overcomer....................
    The Training Up of His Kings and His Priesthood

    The overcomers in Christ are "living stones" fitly joined together into a "habitation of God in the Spirit".
    The mortar is love, the perfect bond of unity.
    Overcoming means not allowing our circumstances, to overthrow us from the WORD OF GOD.
    An OVERCOMER LEARNS, not to go to the arm of flesh for help...thats mark missing, but to continually stand only upon the Word of God for deliverance.
    [ the 3 boys in the firey furnace in the book of Daniel , is a true bible model of overcomers]
    The Holy Spirit is continually breaking open the seals of our understanding.
    A saint will go up 'higher' in understanding
    BUT...
    THE CONDITION IS ''' the DOING'' of a previous understanding that the Lord has opened.
    this is glory to glory
    or
    authority to authority
    or
    subdue-ing all things, till even death is UNDER HIS FEET~!
    like climbing a ladder.
    the ladder of spiritual virtue is the 'secret of the stairs'
    The whole object of these revealings is to crush satanic rulership inside that destroys us~!
    One by one each dirty spot has to be removed and CHRIST MADE THE LORD, over that satanic weakness in our lives.= this spiritual ladder climbing is called BUILDING UP ZION The HABITATION OF GOD amen

    cont.

  • #2
    cont

    Daybreak is a DAWNING OF OUR new day

    IT IS when the Lord Jesus MESSIAH reveals to a saint HIS BELIEVING mixed with HIS confidence, and then a saint BELIEVES exactly what He is teaching and preaching and has the same confidence as Christ formed within.

    Many people ''wait'' for ''the appearing'' of Jesus Christ as some distant event [ and I am sure there are levels of appearing, and understanding here,] BUT, HE appears in His saints.
    How?
    by being FORMED [ a progressive word] within our mind, so much so, our mind is CHANGED to BELIEVE exactly LIKE Jesus does = called BUILT UPON THE ROCK of Salvation =WHERE we enjoy personal freedoms from former slavery.

    This is NOT a belief system set in place and put there, by ''angels of light'' that are adored and totally believed and adhered to by all manner of religious-people.
    ''Angels of light'' are good deceivers.

    Daybreak! , comes forth, then the mind of a saint, realises, the deception of evil, and breaks away from it, in true repentance,and transfers over into the realm of a divine life in Christ, now attached to them [ like an umbilical cord ] surviving UPON the living lifestream called hidden manna, =The Word of God.

    As example, sin,... many say this word, ''repent'' from a certain sin, affecting their life, but REPENT means to TURN AWAY FROM, or turn back off and reverse direction.
    So, lets ask?
    is this sin, cast off and thrown out, strickened from, and given up post-haste, or does it become ''a hobby'' of years of repenting like a parrot?

    Does this word ''repent'' become a substitute for the believing action of turning away from.?

    Daybreak! comes when at last, a real bright light is shined upon the true condition of the adamic life and the saint SHRINKS from its horror, and begs for righteous deliverance in Christ.
    A birthing out comes forth into His righteouness so that TRUE LOVE can be see.

    True love is! = Where Messiah's Heart finds a home atlast.

    Daybreak comes,! when that still small voice is heard, believed and then acted upon, with all the great dignity of Jesus Christ.

    The Word of God is to be believed over and above the circumstance, the tests and trial and the 5 senses and the excuses, The word of God is to be PARAMOUNT and that is when real DAYBREAK comes... All else is darkness .

    VICTIMS, are people of WRONG ADVISE

    VICTIMS come forth from the wrong gospel and the wrong instructions~!
    HOW MANY sufferers of this deadly delusion ?
    hOW MANY of these souls swim in a sea of doubt and unbelief.
    how many?

    How many ''believe'' from the mind of others RATHER than finding out FACTS for themself.
    People put more thought into planning their new home, than to their real-life belief system.

    FIND THE FACTS FOR YOURSELF.
    Dont take another's word for it! search and find, seek and discover.
    NOT from the mouth of a man BUT from your own mind and thought under the Word and its Lordship.
    THEN, FACE THEM [ the real facts of truth] squarely and repent and made whole in Christ.
    WIPE OUT mistaken thinking, erase it and start again.
    The Lord HONOURS His servants.
    He Gives them a vision that NEVER lacks real knowledge and that vision is KNOWING CHRIST and How to overcome.
    Jacob, wrestled till DAYBREAK and it was then his mind got changed and he BECAME A PRINCE of God.

    This same thing happens to a saint, all that pre-built-up thinking vanishes and a NEW way of thinking happens that MAKES us a PRINCE with the Lord, of the royal Household of the Kingdom of God.
    Wrong thinking,
    wrong hearing,
    stepped in religious robes are of no account, and always a hope deferred, never coming into a divine maturity that bears fruit of a Holy God.

    Daybreaking rips of the veil of darkness and lacking knowing and shreds to pieces the works of the devil.
    amen.

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    • #3
      The lady Trinity

      is birthed out IN VICTORY.
      She is not defeated
      She has been tutored TO WIN.
      she KNOWS how to act and win
      SHE IS FOCUSED and she helps others.
      She is a ''study'' or a picture for our spiritual understanding.
      She KNOWS how to battle and overcome great odds.
      She is faithfull and an everpresent help.

      Messiah has this type of person as a Friend.
      amen

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      • #4
        a spirit of Excellence.

        everything is excellent....perfection has come...the spiritual is lived in.
        Growing up into full maturity~
        We need to understand, that this happens thru the practice of the Word of God and in NO other way
        Jesus PRACTICED this IT IS THE KEY.


        We receive a revelation so that the ''gates of hell shall not prevail against us'' and then we are to PRACTICE this revelation from Abba Father....

        and
        it is ONLY DOING THIS, that changes a spirit, soul and body.
        remember PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT

        CONSIDER PLX
        we can all study Saul and Paul and David and Moses, all are there for our learning from.
        We can pray and fast, and sing, yes these things are all wonderfull... BUT... THEY ARE NOT SALVATION, for living-freedom is walking like Christ and practicing that walk into perfection.
        LET US THEN
        Practice not to be a slave to anything.
        Practice not to be afraid and not to have fears.,
        Practice not to doubt Gods Word over our circumstances, to have a different mind thoughts
        a holy mind...
        a guarded mind
        and
        a mind that PUTS OF ITS OWN CORRUPTION.

        we are to remember the true path it is REVELATION... practice... till fullness comes... and it does come faith unto faith, strength unto strength, in Christ as HE GROWS WITHIN US.. amen.
        this is the pattern Son's life he suffered to give to us.
        His pattern life = is to be our life too.

        ''He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. ''

        "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. ''

        "He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. ''

        "Because I live, ye shall live also''.

        "In Christ, shall all be made alive. ''

        "As the Father hath life in Himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in Himself: ''

        "For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light. ''

        "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. ''

        "My words are life to those that find them, and health to all their flesh. ''

        "For to be carnally minded is death: but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. ''

        "I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil. ''

        "Therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live."
        I NOTICED A STRANGE THING in the film at the beginning~!

        Neo+ others always thought 'Trinity' was a man.
        but she was a woman.
        I wondered why this was so,
        then i thought,
        Trinity had a fully developed spiritual man alive within = her deceived soul was no longer there, but had been changed into the true help-meet for her true man - her spirit.

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        • #5
          natural re-action verses our new spiritual re-action.

          Abba teaches us what it means to TRULY trust God.

          To advance into His kingdom living, A SAINT HAS TO LEARN TO trust and obey, NO MATTER WHAT.
          Somehow the words oF Messiah must lift off the page OF THE GOSPELS and enter into our mind like an arrow and we find COMFORT in these words over our lives.

          Jesus did this [remember He was written in the 'volume of the book''] and a saint cannot escape this rather hard thing to do.

          ''Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
          and lean not on your own understanding.
          In all your ways acknowledge Him,
          and he will make your path straight. (Provers 3:5-6)

          Abba is in control.
          He is the master planner over His saint's life!
          The 1st step is the hardest, It was like Neo being asked to walk out upon that ledge and climb into that window cleaners trolley.
          He could not do it, CUZ it was all too hard, so he got captured by his enemy.
          That is the result of disobedience.
          We open up the doorways for 'hell' to walk in.
          We can choose LIFE or death but it is UP TO US to do this choosing.
          This is the exact same training as a parent to a child... choices....
          Abba is the same - HE GIVES US CHOICES.
          We can live
          We can die
          it all depends upon our choice.
          When we make the right choice and trust in Him over what we see or feel SOMEHOW IT OPENS up our mind, our mind creates the knowing and faith comes to fix our problem.
          The commitment seems to have to come from us first, and then His faith swings in to correct our woe....
          see Neo had to obey first but he could not~!
          NOW for most people this is the real hard part.... but.... if u can jump over this great hurdle LIFE NOW comes to our rescue.
          I do believe this ''hurdle is out there'' as a test, it is like the ''survival of the fittest only'' that survive.
          JOSHUA AND CALEB survived.... millions died. These 2 men claimed their reward.
          THAT IS STILL THE SAME TEST TODAY and never forget it.

          YES! the people may change but the tests never do

          Many times i have been in an impossible fix with no way out, i was done for, but at the 11th hour in rides that spiritual army to heal my day and my life amen.
          I KNOW IT WORKS. .
          that is why i have to preach LIFE, for I live it = grace only abounding amen
          Death takes a back seat when HIS LIFE BEGINS TO BLOOM IN US.
          As we obey each day, our death is receeding as His life now IS INCREASING in our lives.
          Because i walk in this Life i can give it to my family, and they benefit and they love it and they even think ahead of me, now -They grow even further than i do- like a divine life inheritance is eating up their own carnal mindedness.
          There are SO MANY benefits to live and walk in the Truth, i often wonder why i was so dumb and dull to live for so many years in utter ignorance.
          I could really kick myself over this. WHAT A WASTE~!
          waste wasted wasting away all because of lies and ignorance.
          When we start to obey, after a short while His LIFE ABUNDANT from
          John 10 v.10
          becomes ours.
          blessing flow, revelation flows, life flows.... and this newness increase HIS life inside of our life.
          Attitudes change, what was once so darn important becomes just recollections from the past.
          The veil is torn, the veil over us like a grave clothe, sudden tears apart and thru this gaping hole LIFE APPEARS ALL AROUND US.
          it is like everything we touch turns to gold.
          That is what happened that day to that old system when Messiah gave up His life, THE VEIL was rent in 2, from bottom to the top and from top to the bottom that whole dreary dispensation was brought into ruin.
          a living way WAS NOW OPENED UP...
          ask
          are u really living in it, does everything u touch, ''turn to gold to the GLORY that GOLDEN GLORY OF MESSIAH''?

          Messiah changes our world INTO HIS WORLD...
          listen to His call.

          You'll never see a dark cloud
          hanging 'round me
          Now there is only blue sky
          to surround me
          There's never been a grey day
          since you found me
          Everything I touch
          is turning to gold
          now aint that the BLESSED TRUTH amen

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          • #6
            Trinity!

            Hi Lucy Smith,
            I NOTICED A STRANGE THING in the film at the beginning~!

            Neo+ others always thought 'Trinity' was a man.
            but she was a woman.
            I wondered why this was so,
            then i thought,
            Trinity had a fully developed spiritual man alive within = her deceived soul was no longer there, but had been changed into the true help-meet for her true man - her spirit.
            This perception was absolutely true of me. You know that I originally was fully convinced that you were a man masquerading as a women!

            This previous experience or perception also made me more willing to look closely at the movie, Matrix, as you began to write about it because I saw that Neo had the same perception about Trinity.

            I do not mean to be argumentative in saying what I am going to say, but perhaps you have been blessed to become a proper helpmeet unto the spirit of Messiah within you. I falsely misunderstood and falsely attributed this characteristic as being male, but you are living proof that when the spirit of Messiah is functioning properly in a woman, royal rulership will manifest itself there also.

            In the physical, a woman must learn to rule in weakness, and in the spiritual, that is, within the Body of Messiah, this must be learned behavior for both men and woman because both are helpmeets to Messiah that must learn to rule in weakness.

            In the physical, a man must learn to submit in strength, but in the spiritual, this is learned behavior for both because within the Body, we must learn to submit one to another with each one of us possessing the strength of Messiah.

            When this strength of Messiah manifests itself in a woman, most who meet that woman without actually physically seeing or hearing her will think that she is a man simply by the regal manner in which she presents herself.

            I have been wondering about the name,Trinity? I wonder if it has anything to do with a Beth Din? Anyways, you have surely touched me so I fully expect to turn to gold soon despite all my fears, procrastinations and doubts!

            Sincerely, Ab
            The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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            • #7
              happy Wednesday to you Spying,

              YES, Spying
              i saw this only recently and as you say, it was how u thought of me, when i first began to write on your forum.
              I have to admit i found it strange that you would think this

              Neo says to Trinity when they first meet ''I thought you were a guy'' and Trinity says ''most guys do''.

              ummmm
              lots to think about and wonder over and how it all works out in the end. hey.
              However i accept your suggestion for i do not have one.
              and
              as for turning to gold.... you already are.
              Have u forgotten your already 1/2 of Ab.....now it is time for the rest...ba... to be added.

              We have to ''practice'' FREEING OUR MINDS.
              Each day, in some way ''dark energy'' will try to overshadow us, we are to learn NOT to run away, but be effective and overcome.
              IT is only a shadow, not matter how real it all appears.
              ONLY The Truth is real.= for TRUTH IS A PERSON.
              IF,
              the Person called THE TRUTH, is walking with us, we learn to have a free mind, and a new mind, or a mind that has NO reason of its own BUT Messiah's.
              This new mind is taking our death away, and it is introducing us into real life, or the exact same life as Messiah walks in.

              This life has been LOST for thousands of years, just as Israel was
              'lost' IN THE WILDERNESS and never recovered as they all died.
              That group, who were BORN in the wilderness survived and entered into that promised land.

              Let us look at this world WILD erness...
              WILD is the first word we see.
              WILD means untamed, and that is our mind, wild and untamed.
              In this WILD-PLACE, we are to learn how to have a TAMED MIND.
              When we do, that rent opens in the atmosphere around our lives and allows GOLD, faith and the glory nature to pour thru = John 10 v 10 arrives.
              I notice many people who love the Lord, are religious, they have thinking that has been programmed for them. Their mind is not free, for they are ever learning but never arriving.
              SPYING
              I COULD NOT WAIT, that long on a hope that is always deferred.
              I NEED A SAVIOUR today and I need HIS APPEARING in me as i am DESPERATE for my lover.
              not only that
              BUT HE IS DESPERATE FOR me... it is a 2 way thing.
              When i agree to His lover's ways, I receive His reward as a husband caring for His wife.
              His wife is HIGHLY HONOURED.,
              HIGHLY FAVOURED,
              SHE HAS 'RIGHTS' now as her Husband ''sitteth at the gates of the city''
              for this truth
              Let's look at ESTHER AS A BRIDE whose husband fell inlove with her and she knew no limits from his affections.
              This is the theme His new creature sees
              This is the theme His new creature is brought into....
              consider this

              Morpheus, COULD ONLY TAKE NEO so far.. the rest of the way he had to go himself.
              Neo, had to be desperate~! and in his deperation.... he opens up that survival of the fittest trait, so that, the Well Beloved, His personal teacher is well please with him.
              WELL FAVOURED IS WELL PLEASED.

              I am that deperate person and i make no bones about this at all.
              INfact it was HE who decided i would be so as I am HIS WORKMANSHIP to be MADE WILLING in the day of His power. amen

              made willing.{Ps 110 v 1-4]

              so OPPOSITE TO VANITY
              and that has to be our 'lot' Spying
              to be opposite to all vanity. amen
              made willing so that vanity is removed from us. or NO Longer SUBJECTED to vanity

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              • #8
                the name TRINITY

                http://search.lycos.co.uk/
                Trinity rhyms with Infinity.
                room 303 =
                TRINITY-INFINITY.

                Trinity
                Trinity stands for the number three.
                Pythoagoras referred to 3 as the perfect number.
                The number three is found on many pillars throughout the subway scence.
                The word "trinity" is used to represent the union of three people;
                the connection of the body, mind and spirit;
                birth, life and death;
                or past, present and future.
                In Christian theology, "trinity" refers to the trifold personality of one Divine Being, the union of the Father, the Son (Christ), and the Holy Spirit.
                The movie there is Morpheus--"the Father," Neo--"the Son," and Trinity--"the Holy Spirit."
                As Carrie-Ann Moss explained in Xpose Magazine, "Even her name is intriguing--Trinity. I always thought it represented the combination of me and Laurence and Keanu."
                perhaps Trinity is your beth-din?
                for the math minded
                The Trinity Signature in the Name YHVH
                http://www.fivedoves.com/yhvh/yhvhgen11.htm
                to plough THRU.... yikes

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                • #9
                  changing EACH DAY

                  because we are learning how to become NEW...with a NEW LIFE.
                  YES~!~!~! I am all into that.

                  ''The Lord faithfully tutors and trains those He loves.
                  He also administers the necessary chastisement on everyone He accepts as a son.
                  Thus, we must learn to endure hardship as discipline, for God is treating us as His sons.
                  What son is not disciplined by his father?''

                  Even a film can show forth clues to our teachings. Trinity is a clue.
                  Abba is everywhere clues are all over..if we look.
                  Being 'new' we now can understand the rent veil
                  and
                  the SPLIT in our old dimension
                  and
                  this divine tear that allows the clues and the revelations to come pouring thru.
                  If u stand in that tear, your'e standing in the divine light...
                  what is this u ask...
                  that 'tear' in our dimension is the Word of God, that is what makes us victors.

                  here is Abba's Yellow Pages...
                  http://web2.iadfw.net/dpelc/yellow/

                  they are lights of revelation that work in us and for us amen.
                  it is interesting to notice this
                  Jesus Messiah says
                  ''no-one comes to the Father except thru Me''.
                  thru Jesus we come to Our Father...
                  so let us cinsider this aspect..................................
                  Dont u think that ''Thru Jesus Christ'' would mean this
                  1] every care taken,
                  2] Be responsible for,
                  3] teaching of,
                  4] caring and sharing,
                  all that HE DID OVER the original 12 would be ours too

                  How HE attended those 12 is the same attention we get too-remember this truth..
                  ''Who is This, coming up our of the wilderness [ out from our untamed mind] leaning on the arm of her BELOVED...s of songs 8 v.6
                  Who is This? = IS His first fruit saint.
                  Who is the BELOVED? THE BELOVED IS HER KING, THAT WOULD NOT LET HER GO...
                  Messiah, LOVES HIS 'GIRL', our redeemed soul.
                  no way is HE ALLOWING HER to escape cuz He has drawn her to Himself...
                  she is His....THATS IT.
                  Messiah falls in love and He has a passion for His bride.
                  HE IS NOT PASSIONLESS...THEREFORE He tends her every need.
                  She is ROYALITY to Him as He is Royal...
                  SHE IS ATTENDED to by her King.
                  That is why she takes on His characteristics...THEY ARE becoming as ONE.
                  Messiah fills us with His passion, now this passion overcomes our vanity, the vanity is removed and our WILLINGNESS is now possible [Ps 110.v.1-4] so that WE CAN BE AS HE IS, in every way.
                  As we become His, we become Like Him,
                  so that old things pass away from us,
                  old mind sets pass away,
                  old woes and troubles pass way,
                  our careers pass away,
                  our human mark missing passes away,
                  old friends pass away
                  everything old passes away, it fades and stays there in the dimension of vanity.
                  we are being changed, old things have gone back into the dimension of time and His new things takes us into His eternal infinity.
                  In that NEW PLACE = ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE...
                  in vanity, all things are not possible.
                  http://haha.nu/2006/05/17/seamless-pictures/
                  seemless art..
                  is a clue
                  First picture - see how children [His sons and daughters] are awakening out from the death of vanity..... see how they stretch, and get up and begin to fly [ all things possible] see the old world of vanity it is underneath them now

                  this is such a great CLUE, that happens in the life of His own BELOVED. amen.

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                  • #10
                    Ab Beth Din!

                    Hi Lucy Smith,

                    I have had occasion to really think about "why Trinity" as you were making this comment:
                    The word "trinity" is used to represent the union of three people;
                    the connection of the body, mind and spirit
                    This really flowed into me (as you would say) because I had just spent my whole working day thinking along the same lines. I know that "Trinity" has all three working wonderfully together within herself. You have it together, my Lady!

                    This also made sense to me:
                    As Carrie-Ann Moss explained in Xpose Magazine, "Even her name is intriguing--Trinity. I always thought it represented the combination of me and Laurence and Keanu."
                    perhaps Trinity is your beth-din?
                    because I have been contemplating a Beth Din of you, me, and Messiah or even perhaps a Son of Thunder!

                    Actually, I can even think about "Trinity" in the classical sense:
                    In Christian theology, "trinity" refers to the trifold personality of one Divine Being, the union of the Father, the Son (Christ), and the Holy Spirit.
                    as long as it is fully recognized that Messiah Yahushua is the renewal or restoration of the Father. Messiah is the exact duplicate of the Ancient of Days. Whatever existed before the rebellion and war amongst the ELOHIM now exists within Messiah. There did not exist two "Ancient of Days" before the rebellion, and there does not exist two "Ancient of Days" presently. Messiah exists presently as the restored or renewed "Ancient of Days". As such, Messiah is both Father and Mother, and we are all part of HIM.

                    I also have been thinking along these lines: Ye shall love YAHWEH with all thy heart, soul, and might. (This is a three stranded rope strong indeed) It is especially interesting to me when I contemplate these three aspects within a Beth Din, and I hope that it is not presumptuous of me to think along these lines. I am absolutely not saying that any one individual can be the heart or the soul or the might of YAHWEH save for Messiah, but I get excited when I think about these three aspects being represented in the Beth Din of the spiritual Sanhedrin, the Ab Beth Din, of the second spiritual Temple. I also get excited whenever I contemplate these three aspects being united in one person, my Lady, as I perceive that they have been united in you.

                    If we have been blessed to be part of Ab Beth Din, who would be the might in our Beth Din? Who is the soul of our Beth Din, and who is the heart?

                    Sincerely, Ab
                    The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                    • #11
                      hello Spying...i am a novice at ' Ab beth din's'

                      but i do know How to Flow.
                      You shall have to lead me into Beth din's full understanding ok... then i shall flow once i get the hang of it.
                      All i know is I LOVE THE NAME...to me it has all the aspects of immortality in just those few arranged letters. It is if i have known of them or heard them before, but now i have forgotten them, so u shall have to bring back my rememberance. ok?
                      There is great strength in a 3 stranded cord we are told and so many times, in the bible, we shall see, 3 things going together.
                      but as for 'the flow'.
                      The flow is there, just flowing.... i.e. one jumps to 2 who jumps to 3...like some great power and strength maybe like a mass divine consiousness thing, but this flowing lifts us out from this world and into the divine realm.
                      When we 'flow' together time ceases to be as the power uplifts us from this vanity realm.
                      Trinity is 3
                      a combination of 3 elements that are needed to overcome all things.
                      as example
                      to sit on the throne 3 elements for the overcomer [who comes out from Laodicea] are indeed needed, they are
                      gold
                      white raiments
                      eye salve
                      to have these 3 things allows one to co-share the Throne.- now i ask = is this your Ab Beth Din?
                      for if u say YES, these 3 things are what we need.
                      'Trinity' in the 1st film of the Matrix, seems to have gone ahead of Neo, she is more matured than he, but, the exciting thing is here.... Neo learns so fast from her and others..... He is able to be greater than, the rest.
                      This is where FLOWING comes in see this?
                      Remember Messiah said ''greater things shall ye do''
                      so we all think
                      ''yea-right ho''.
                      but
                      what most did not learn was HOW TO FLOW INTO EACH OTHER CORRECTLY as we are learning now Spying.
                      The greatness comes when MESSIAH IS ACTIVATED [ the power of God released] thru us and into others so that THERE ARE NO LONGER SPIRITUAL CRIPPLES BUT divine ARROWHEADS that piece the darkness for others and release the captives. = that is vanity ceasing to be and sons manifesting. amen
                      It has been a right royal stuff up thats for sure, with carnal mindness the hero and the power of God the victim in all religious circles.
                      but
                      WE LIVE IN HOPE, that love prevails and knows no bounds as His people arise and play their role.

                      Ab Beth Din - is to do with Judging right?
                      if this is so,
                      let us inspect our own heart, as a test.

                      lets look into our hearts to see how we will 'judge'' another who would come before us for ''judgments''.
                      ask
                      Is our heart cruel and unforgiving?
                      or
                      is our heart soft and compassion?
                      or
                      Is our heart simply just.
                      Spying
                      without even thinking i already know your heart is Just as well as compassionate and i am not mistaken at all.
                      how do i know this?
                      and IF we are to share His throne, dont u think we shall be Like HIM.

                      We are a NEW breed of creation.....
                      something NEW is operating within us, and this NEW grows in us daily as we surrender up our will.
                      This NEW THING, happening within, allows us to see this NEW THING happening in others.
                      We can see this in the characters of Neo Trinity and Morpheus.
                      something NEW happened to them and this NEW thing allowed them to ''see'' hearts. amen
                      Spying
                      While we all may not have the same woe's to overcome, we all have the SAME HEART to overcome all Things.
                      and
                      this new heart shall take us into the highest and most beneficial realms of existances.
                      spying post
                      This really flowed into me (as you would say) because I had just spent my whole working day thinking along the same lines. I know that "Trinity" has all three working wonderfully together within herself. You have it together, my Lady!
                      i found the spiritual learning very difficult at first, it was a great battle for me to give in to another's will. But i took that first step like Neo did and i failed too, just as he did, but MERCY and GRACE heals us all and His great love pushes us thru that tear in this carnal world and into His presence.
                      WHEN WE ARE THERE, it is like A SHIELD where we have NO thoughts............. save His.
                      Messiah said this
                      ''''TAKE NO THOUGHT,'''
                      so don't take it
                      nothing NEGATIVE
                      nothing bad
                      nothing unsetting
                      DONT TAKE THAT THOUGHT....PUSH IT AWAY... and it is then His shield comes in and protects us from our own killer thinking.
                      This understanding allows us to jump without falling.
                      When we get this one area right we move on into other areas,.
                      We are never stationary only when we have failed our test, but we grow and grow like a seed that matures and into that tree of LIFE. amen

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                      • #12
                        team effort???

                        cont
                        http://www.fivedoves.com//tng/trinitysecrets.htm


                        hello Again Spying.
                        I also was thinking that Neo is the ultimate overcomer too.


                        http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/


                        I was wondering if overcoming was learnt as a ''team effort'' meaning each team member encourages the other how to overcome.
                        consider....Neo's failing on the first jump, could be likened to disciple Peter failing to walk on water as Messiah did that day. Notice Peter looked at the wind and the waves..[he was still unfocused or still had an untamed mind] but also notice he was a disciple then and NOT an Apostle, for that day when he became an Apostle [Acts 2] he was there doing his apostle's work at Gate Beautifull.
                        Neo was learning and his learning led into maturity.
                        Neo grew not because he thinks 'he is the one' but BECAUSE OF HIS BATTLES = he gains faith unto faith that changes his confidence.
                        When we are focused [ focused is really atom changing] we receive this confidence for it is this confidence that OVERCOMES THIS WORLD.
                        So,
                        we have been brought together to give team confidence, as there is NO pulling down, but only uplifting in Christ. That is this 'Spirit of Excellence',
                        or
                        that Messiah's will to overcome , being birthed into our lives so that HE MAY LIVE thru us. amen
                        The great thing is, we need to UNDERSTAND who we are.
                        Neo began to UNDERSTAND this as he battled, faith led to more faith till ''he knew'' how to really overcome.

                        Jesus Christ says to His disciples a few times '' of ye of little faith'' right? that is because they were failing to understand His Kingdom and its rules.
                        The 'laws' of the carnal world kill us., but the law of life in the divine realm makes us live full of LIVING LIFE.[John 10 v 10]
                        It is easy to have faith, all we need to do is GIVE UP our mind and = TAKE NO THOUGHT, TAKE NO THOUGHT, dont take it.....let it go....
                        WHY? because it is our stupid mind that kills us.
                        Dont take NO for thy answer TAKE ''ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE'' - this new thinking STOPS the false reality from this world from overtaking us.
                        This false reality [here and now] wants to overtake us out from the protection of the Word of God
                        What is the Matrix? = what is our false reality
                        Morpheus describes it to Neo as "the world that has been pulled over our eyes to blind us from the Truth."
                        consider this
                        David says ''RESTORE MY SOUL''
                        Eve, our soul realm was beguiled away from the Word of God into another's word and confidence.
                        We need our SOUL RESTORED, and reverted backwards to believe only the Truth from His Word..... and then have this confidence that

                        THE WORK IS THERE.....THE WORK IS PROCEEDING.... THE WORK SHALL BE FINISHED

                        let us now have this 3 in one confidence.

                        amen
                        We are learning how to move into 'our new world' where old woes and scars and hurts are being removed and a NEW THING is taking old things away.
                        these are vanishing, nothing can feed them any more, so they are wasting away and disappearing.
                        It is extremely exciting.
                        Have u noticed this Spying?

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                        • #13
                          hwy Spying.. a re-read ok

                          Spying post
                          In Christian theology, "trinity" refers to the trifold personality of one Divine Being, the union of the Father, the Son (Christ), and the Holy Spirit.

                          as long as it is fully recognized that Messiah Yahushua is the renewal or restoration of the Father. Messiah is the exact duplicate of the Ancient of Days. Whatever existed before the rebellion and war amongst the ELOHIM now exists within Messiah. There did not exist two "Ancient of Days" before the rebellion, and there does not exist two "Ancient of Days" presently. Messiah exists presently as the restored or renewed "Ancient of Days". As such, Messiah is both Father and Mother, and we are all part of HIM.
                          This is Good Spying
                          points = restoration of the Father.
                          Messiah the copy
                          All things NOW exist in Messiah
                          NO 2 ancient of days
                          Messiah - restored or new ancient of days.
                          We are a part of Him.

                          well now that is a mouthfull you have given me to dwell over..
                          so
                          what we have here in this summary

                          THE ANCIENT OF DAYS IS NOW VISIBLE IN A MAN- WHO IS ALSO THE CREATOR.
                          So
                          the creator has become A VISIBLE HUMAN LIKENESS OF HIMSELF.

                          have I got your conception right?
                          if so.... what a change over.
                          the change over was from invisible to visible.

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                          • #14
                            The INVISIBLE Made VISIBLE!

                            Hi Lucy Smith,
                            THE ANCIENT OF DAYS IS NOW VISIBLE IN A MAN- WHO IS ALSO THE CREATOR.
                            Before the restorative work of Messiah Yahushua, YAHWEH ELOHIM was a SPIRIT without a BODY! Now, after the resurrection, YAHWEH ELOHIM has flesh and bones through the visible man, Messiah Yahushua. As Messiah said, A spirit has not flesh and bones as I have, and Thomas said of Messiah, MY YAHWEH AND MY ELOHIM!

                            The CREATOR, the Ancient of Days, has always been visible through HIS Creation, but because of the War and Rebellion, that Creation became somewhat distorted and was subjected to corruption and decay just like the dead body of a man.

                            Now, through the resurrection, the CREATOR, the Ancient of Days, again occupies HIS Body though the NEW CREATION, the last Adam, Messiah Yahushua, who happens to be a man.

                            So, the War has been won, and the Rebellion has been destroyed, and you have it exactly correct:
                            the creator has become A VISIBLE HUMAN LIKENESS OF HIMSELF.

                            have I got your conception right?
                            if so.... what a change over.
                            the change over was from invisible to visible.
                            Absolutely perfect! I cannot say it better!!!

                            And what is even more perfect, my Lady, is that this physical likeness is now visible in HIS OVERCOMERS, HIS SAINTS. So, the physical resurrected BODY of Messiah Yahushua represents the restored YAHWEH ELOHIM. This BODY is also representative of HIS SAINTS who in turn are representative of the whole physical Universe. So, the BODY, the Saints, are the fullness of HIM who fills all and is in all, the invisible made visible.

                            You are further advanced in this filling than myself. I prayed this morning for HIS guidance, and you have no idea how much I fear heights.

                            Sincerely, Ab
                            The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                            • #15
                              fears

                              hello Spying,
                              and thank you so much for your composite picture i never knew it to be so simply put, now I can understand 'it'.

                              fears.............
                              all people have them,
                              some people have them more than others...
                              i dont know why?....
                              but fears are simply situations or elements of the unknown not fully understood by us.

                              BTW
                              You are not afraid of heights Ab, you just are not used to them that's all... once you were used to them, you would never be afraid again.
                              If i took you up and down a ladder or a lift, or stand with you on a skyscraper a few times... you would never fear! it would be gone. This would be because you were now used to this experience and you would be with a friend.
                              TEAM WORK, is what the Body of Christ is all about. The Body is not one person.

                              Morpheus said to Neo ... " the matrix - the world that has been pulled over our eyes to blind us from the Truth."

                              All fears are from that world not from the divine one and as we walk away from that Matrix world so do our fears lessen and then cease to make us their slave.
                              why?
                              I think it is because we are walkng away from the devil/satan/the snake's mesmerizing influences and into the Arms of our heart's desire.
                              Because the bible records that ''perfect love cast out all fear'' so remember there is NO such a thing in the Matrix as 'perfect love' and it is only when we come out from this charrade that all forms of PERFECT LOVE can blossom.
                              Do you see in the opening scenes of the film... Trinity was ambushed by many Matrix-ites, cuz they were her enemy,BTW not because they were people she disliked or hated even,
                              but
                              because of their slavish attitudes and their ''DEPENDANCE'' upon evil.
                              She was able to withstand all of this attack, because she KNEW THE RULES of escape.
                              see
                              ONCE WE KNOW THE RULES nothing can hold us.
                              I shall repeat = NOTHING CAN HOLD US.
                              why?
                              because the RULES OF ELOHIM, bend and remove the laws of satan.
                              HE IS ONLY ABLE TO WORK THRU THE LAWS OF SIN AND DEATH
                              His laws of sin and death are LOWER laws, AND fail TO CAPTURE anyone who is Enchristed.
                              but
                              we have to learn how USING THE DIVINE key of knowledge cuz it is only THRU ignorance people perish.

                              PERFECT LOVE over-rides sin and death fears. = THATS THE LAW.
                              The invisible Saviour becomes 'visible' when we begin to walk away from all forms of death.

                              Trinity had ''perfected'' this!
                              Trinity had moved into the divine realm......

                              she overcame.

                              While we understand its only a movie, but it is also a picture of spiritual dimensions for us to cleverly consider = meaning= all those hard to understand things we need to know shown to us, so we can understand and not be in ignorance.
                              Trinity was cast as a 'woman' but to me she is all overcomers, whose souls have been saved, so that the true spiritual man can manifest.
                              TRINITY IS MANIFESTING OUT, her spiritual man.....only then can she BE a true help-meet...
                              and
                              only then can a TRUE woman BE SEEN AND ALSO A TRUE MALE..
                              these 2 = the perfected male and his help-meet the perfected female are wonders of ALL creation, the world has not even seen them completed as yet.

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