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  • The Second Spiritual Temple!

    Hi Everyone,

    Blessings to you through the resurrected Messiah Yahushua, the Renewed and Restored YAHWEH ELOHIM!

    Yesterday was not only the weekly Sabbath, but it was also, according to our sighting of the New Moon of the Seven Month, Yom Teruah, that is, the Day Of Shouting! If you should look on the calendar, Yom Teruah is listed as Rosh Hashanah which means Head of the Year. According to the Jews, Yom Teruah is the Jewish New Year.

    We understand that Yom Teruah may indeed memorialize the physical creation of man as it is written:

    Job 38:7
    7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of ELOHIM shouted for joy?

    While the above verse is speaking of the establishment of the Cornerstone of the Earth, it is by no means a stretch of the imagination to understand that this Cornerstone comes from man because the Chief Cornerstone of the Spiritual Temple is the Man, the Resurrected Messiah Yahushua.

    If this is true, and it is, then the physical Jewish Temples in a spiritual sense represent the Earth as the dwelling place of the ELOHIM, and the ELOHIM THEMSELVES are the Foundation of this dwelling place.

    Who served as the Foundation of the First Spiritual Temple? Was the 1st Spiritual Temple destroyed?

    Thanking and blessing all those in advance who should come to this forum seeking to answer these questions, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

  • #2
    Shabbat Shalom to those concerned:

    Moses wrote of the Messiah’s suffering, death, burial, and 3rd day resurrection…WHERE did he write this?

    This question is monumental searchingmyroots. WHERE did Moses write of the Messiah’s suffering, death, burial, and 3rd day resurrection? First, Moses did write that his Torah was like gentle rain upon the tender herbs. Rabbis have understood that physical water is a “symbol” of the Torah. This understanding is paramount to be able grasp that Moses did write about the Messiah. Moses did show how rain that is falling on the tender grass/herbs is likened to or “represents” how the Torah coming down from Elohim does “water” us with His Word…and that allows us to grow and develop into a “fruitful” being. Elohim does use SYMBOLS to teach us what He is doing.

    The Foundation of the Torah (the ritual of the red heifer) is the most MYSTERIOUS rite in all of the Torah. Even Solomon in all of his wisdom DISPAIRED over the SECRET meaning of this ritual. The most important aspect of understanding the SECRET of this ritual is to grasp that this ritual is speaking about what would happen to the Messiah. The Messiah’s ultimate role with Israel and mankind is to usher in a purification FROM death, and to separate sinners FROM their sin, and this was the main function of the Red Heifer ritual.

    It is foolish to deny the symbolism found within this ritual. Traditional and messianic christians are foolish as they twist and distort the meaning of sacrifice to where they have THEIR g-d sacrificing his only good child and shedding his blood in the place of sinners so that justice could be satisfied and they could be forgiven. Traditional and messianic christians fail to grasp what Moses wrote about the Messiah and it has nothing to do with substitutionalism.

    The physical red heifer is a symbol of the Messiah, and what took place in a physical sense to the physical red heifer is what happened to the Messiah in fulfillment of what Moses wrote. What I am about to open up is no where found within traditional and messianic christianity. Here are some of the similarities between the physical red heifer and with what happened to her, as compared to what happened with the Messiah.

    The physical red heifer symbolizes that the Messiah (The Spiritual Red Heifer) would be a “man” (red-‘adom’) who was in a role of submission and insignificance (the heifer). No physical yoke could have ever been on the physical red heifer and this is a symbol of the yoke or slavery of sin could not have been upon the Messiah. The physical red heifer was first taken to Eleazar, a relative of the high priest Aaron, just as the Messiah was first taken to Annas a relative of the high priest Caiaphas. The physical red heifer was taken outside the camp to be slaughtered, just as the Messiah was taken outside the city gate to suffer and be slaughtered. The blood of the physical red heifer had to be sprinkled before the tabernacle of the congregation seven times, just as the Messiah’s blood was sprinkled on seven different beatings. Three ingredients were cast INTO the midst of the burning of the physical red heifer (cedar wood, hyssop, and scarlet) and that burning of the physical red heifer symbolized the SUFFERING of the Messiah. Those three ingredients intensified His suffering. They were the Cross, the hyssop stalk which had the vinegar sponge on it, and the scarlet robe. The Cross because of how death came about, the hyssop stalk, which was the means to present all the vile and evil accusations against Him, and the scarlet robe to mock His Kingship.

    Anyone and everyone involved with the slaughter and burning of the physical red heifer, even with the gathering up of the ashes, BECAME defiled, just as all sinners who were involved with placing the Messiah up on the Cross are defiled, even the one who gathered up His dead body. The ashes of the physical red heifer is a symbol of the Messiah’s dead body, and His dead body was gathered up by Joseph of Arimathea who place His dead body in a tomb that was hewn out of solid rock (a vessel), which then had a lid placed upon this vessel as commanded by Moses. This vessel (the tomb) had the Ashes (dead body) of the Messiah in it.

    Now for the EXCITING part. For the unclean, Living Water must be added to the ashes of the physical red heifer in the vessel, just as Everlasting Life was added to the dead body of the Messiah in the tomb. Then, those who are unclean by touching the dead body of someone (we all touched the dead body of Messiah by sinning), the unclean are to be sprinkled with those physical ashes on the 3rd and 7th days. The SPRINKLING is a symbol for speaking or preaching, and the speaking is to be about the suffering, death, burial, and 3rd day resurrection as written by Moses concerning the Messiah being the Spiritual Red Heifer. As it stood, ALL were defiled by His death and His ashes, but the unclean had to be sprinkled upon by a Clean Man on the 3rd day, and this is why the Messiah had to arise on the 3rd day AS that Clean Man who then SPRINKLED His disciples (starting with the two on the road to Emmaus), and then commanded them to ALSO sprinkle His Ashes (suffering, death, burial, and 3rd day resurrection) upon everyone else. Just as those who were sprinkled with the physical red heifer’s ashes were covered with soot, those who were sprinkled with the suffering, death, burial, and 3rd day resurrection of Messiah were covered with the responsibility of placing Him upon the Cross to suffer so. Once an unclean person was sprinkled with those physical ashes of the red heifer, they were required to bath their bodies and wash their clothes, just as it was commanded for those who were sprinkled with the suffering, death, burial, and 3rd day resurrection of the Messiah, that they had to be baptized.

    The 3rd day sprinkling ended almost 2000 years ago with the onslaught and destruction of The Body of Messiah (the FIRST Spiritual Temple as pictured or symbolized by Solomon’s temple). That destruction came about by an invasion of total and utter confusion (Babylon), and we have had silence from Elohim since. But take heart, and have FAITH Judaism as YOUR Messiah is raising up His Body again to accomplish the 7th DAY sprinkling (the last 1000 years of Elohim’s week), and YOU will be part of it as traditional and messianic christianity will oppose YOUR sprinkling of His Ashes...the suffering, death, burial, and 3rd day resurrection of the Messiah as written by Moses. This sprinkling is for the purification from the defilement from death and the turning away or separating sin from the life of a sinner....The Foundation of the Torah....Ashes that BOTH can defile the clean and purify the unclean.

    Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
    Abstain from meats offered to idols
    (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
    So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    • #3
      Shalom to those concerned. Thank you Jason and searchinmyroots for your response. King David prayed for HaShem to: "Open Thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of Thy Torah." To those who have "unopened" eyes, it may appear to be "messy," and "hidden," but those who are blessed to behold those wondrous things out of The Torah, they will BEGIN to see much more than what the Foundation of the Torah (the ritual of the red heifer) has hidden within it.

      Take for example the New Moon. HaShem declared that when the Children of Israel were in the process of leaving Egypt, that it was the BEGINNING of their MOONS (months - Exo 12:2). So this was in a symbolic sense, a New Moon when they came forth out of Egypt. Consider the symbolism. You have a people leaving Egypt (a symbol of hard bondage-LADEN with iniquity Isa 1:4), and they are told that in relation to the world, they are but a small sliver of people that Elohim has elevated ABOVE all the peoples on the face of the earth: Deut 7:6-7 “For you are a set-apart people to יהוה your Elohim. יהוה your Elohim has chosen you to be a people for Himself, a treasured possession above all the peoples on the face of the earth. 7“יהוה did not set His love on you nor choose you because you were more numerous than any other people, for you were the least of all peoples,

      Isn't that what a New Moon is? It is a BODY that is ABOVE all the peoples on the face of the earth, and for it to be a New Moon, it starts out as just a small sliver (least of all peoples). Those who left Egypt were just a small sliver of mankind. And what did they do? They were given LIGHT, were they not? Prov 6:23 For the command is a lamp, And the Torah a light, And reproofs of discipline a way of life, Yes, the Torah is a LIGHT, and it was given to the Children of Israel for them to REFLECT upon the face of the earth....just as the physical moon reflects the light of the sun upon the face of the earth.

      Now, why would Moses be so messy and try to hide that the Children of Israel were a New Moon, reflecting the Torah upon this earth? Can a physical moon be a symbol of a people, just like a red heifer can be a symbol of the Messiah??? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew
      Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

      Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
      Abstain from meats offered to idols
      (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
      So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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      • #4
        Shalom to those concerned. Again, I must indicate that traditional and messianic christians do not grasp that the Children of Israel were a Spiritual New Moon when they left Egypt and started reflecting the Light of the Torah upon mankind. They also do not grasp that the Messiah fulfilled the role of being the Spiritual Red Heifer when He was made to suffer, die, be buried, and then resurrected on the 3rd day just exactly as Moses wrote. They also do not grasp the role of Hyssop in the fulfillment of what Moses wrote. Hyssop is a reed that can be used to "sprinkle." Hyssop had to be cast INTO the midst of the burning of the red heifer, and then hyssop was also used to sprinkle the ashes of the red heifer, which had "living water" added therein, upon the unclean. Well, what is Spiritual hyssop? Spiritual hyssop is "rebuke." The rebuke can either be just or it can be unjust. The rebuke that was cast into the midst of the Messiah's suffering was unjust, but non-the-less, it was the Spiritual hyssop that was cast INTO the suffering/burning of the Messiah. The hyssop that was/is used to sprinkle the ashes of the red heifer/Messiah is the REBUKE to declare the suffering, death, burial, and 3rd day resurrection of the Messiah just as Moses and the Prophets wrote. This rebuke is JUST. The Messiah began the sprinkling of His suffering, death, burial, and 3rd day resurrection WITH hyssop, on the 2 Disciples who were traveling to Emmaus. He then continued the sprinkling with the rest of His Disciples later that evening, and then the Disciples ALSO sprinkled the Jews in Jerusalem at Pentecost/Shavuot declaring to them that they had murdered the Holy One of Israel. This sprinkling with hyssop (rebuke) had to occur on the 3rd and 7th days. The Messiah had to arise on the 3rd day to sprinkle with hyssop, as Moses commanded that the sprinkling be done by a "clean man." Everyone who participated in slaughtering the Messiah is unclean (and that is ALL of sinful mankind). All of sinful mankind is "dead" in their sin, so ONLY One who is NOT dead could qualify to be the Spiritual Sprinkler...the resurrected Messiah. He is the One who performs and directs the sprinkling (with hyssop), and a 7th day sprinkling MUST occur. When do you suppose that happens? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.
        Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

        Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
        Abstain from meats offered to idols
        (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
        So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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        • #5
          Shabbat Shalom to those concerned. I have been asked to move on at a different forum where they have rejected the symbol of the Red Heifer and New Moon, and this is what I just posted back to them:

          Shabbat Shalom, I suppose I will take your advice and move on as you have rejected my interpretations. Though, I might say that if Pharaoh and his wise men would have been foolish and slow of heart NOT to believe what the Prophet Joseph said, when he interpreted that the seven fat cows and seven good ears of corn would be seven years of abundance and plenty, then they would not have followed Joseph’s recommendation to prepare for the seven years of famine that the thin cows and thin ears of corn symbolized. But who knows, maybe you will become like Pharaoh and see how HaShem does use symbols and interpretations to teach about things to come. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.
          Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

          Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
          Abstain from meats offered to idols
          (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
          So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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          • #6
            Shabbat Shalom to those concerned, yes, that is something good to contemplate. Why did G-d harden Pharaoh’s heart. I think it is fairly easy to answer…G-d was hardening Pharaoh’s heart so that he would not let the people go, thereby, allowing G-d to perform many signs and wonders to make His Name great, and get honour. The Exiles returning from Babylon declared the following concerning G-d:

            Neh 9:9-10
            (9) And Thou sawest the affliction of our fathers in Egypt, and heardest their cry by the Red Sea; (10) and didst show signs and wonders upon Pharaoh, and on all his servants, and on all the people of his land; for Thou knewest that they dealt proudly against them; and didst get Thee a name, as it is this day.

            To be sure, G-d got a NAME (a name of renown) because of the great wonders and signs that He performed upon Pharaoh and Egypt. Just think about it, Pharaoh’s heart on multiple occasions wanted to let the people go:

            (Ex 8:8) Then Pharaoh called for Moses and Aaron, and said: 'Entreat the LORD, that He take away the frogs from me, and from my people; and I will let the people go, that they may sacrifice unto the LORD.'

            (Ex 8:28) And Pharaoh said: 'I will let you go, that ye may sacrifice to the LORD your G-d in the wilderness; only ye shall not go very far away; entreat for me.'

            (Ex 10:24) And Pharaoh called unto Moses, and said: 'Go ye, serve the LORD; only let your flocks and your herds be stayed; let your little ones also go with you.'

            But G-d would not allow Pharaoh to let them go, by hardening Pharaoh’s heart:

            (Ex 4:21) And the LORD said unto Moses: 'When thou goest back into Egypt, see that thou do before Pharaoh all the wonders which I have put in thy hand; but I will harden his heart, and he will not let the people go.

            Ex 7:2-5 (2) Thou shalt speak all that I command thee; and Aaron thy brother shall speak unto Pharaoh, that he let the children of Israel go out of his land. (3) And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply My signs and My wonders in the land of Egypt. (4) But Pharaoh will not hearken unto you, and I will lay My hand upon Egypt, and bring forth My hosts, My people the children of Israel, out of the land of Egypt, by great judgments. (5) And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD, when I stretch forth My hand upon Egypt, and bring out the children of Israel from among them.'

            (Ex 9:12) And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.

            (Ex 10:20) But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he did not let the children of Israel go.

            (Ex 10:27) But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let them go.

            (Ex 11:10) And Moses and Aaron did all these wonders before Pharaoh; and the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he did not let the children of Israel go out of his land.

            And the REASON G-d hardened Pharoah’s heart was so that He could perform all the signs and wonders, and then it would be plain to see that HaShem is G-d, and that He would get His Honour upon Pharaoh.

            Ex 10:1-2 (1) And the LORD said unto Moses: 'Go in unto Pharaoh; for I have hardened his heart, and the heart of his servants, that I might show these My signs in the midst of them; (2) and that thou mayest tell in the ears of thy son, and of thy son's son, what I have wrought upon Egypt, and My signs which I have done among them; that ye may know that I am the LORD.'

            (Ex 14:4) And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and he shall follow after them; and I will get Me honour upon Pharaoh, and upon all his host; and the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD.' And they did so.

            So, there is your answer, G-d hardened Pharaoh’s heart so that He could specifically bring all of those signs and wonders upon Egypt, so that His Name would be made GREAT, and that everyone would KNOW that He is HaShem. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.
            Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

            Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
            Abstain from meats offered to idols
            (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
            So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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