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  • what?? Will be the ultimate FATE of Pauline Christianity

    ~~~~~~now that is the question~~~~ THE DEAD WHO BURY THE DEAD!
    AS the kingdom of Heaven was simply NOT AT HAND for them .

    is that you - are you an evil do-er
    ofcourse NOT most will say from the pews of the '''pauline style''''' DIVISIONAL CHURCHES.
    what will be your fate Pauline church lovers?

    Jesus warned in Math 24 He would never be physically seen by anyone after He ascended until he returned for His bride and to restore all things back to The Father
    whosoever saul saw and heard - was simply NOT the Messiah.
    the warning
    the warning goes out - most pews people never think ''HELL MAYBE THIS IS ME''
    no no they are very happy in their church

    what he describes: "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!' (Matthew 7:21-27)
    do you heed Jesus warning when read Saul's conversions quoted differently 3 times?
    you are you the dead who simply believe the lie?
    are you REBUKING MESSIAH when following saul?
    THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU ANSWER
    why?
    your life will depend upon JESUS WARNING or saul's deception as a 1 man unrepentant witness [ at that time] of a Jesus physically appearing to him in a blinding light.'
    Jesus said NO way hosea.

    before you get upperity, remember Jesus warning first before slinging your verses all around like a man with no arms
    If you dont believe in Jesus warning in Math 24 - why do you think you are saved and redeemed and yet call Messiah A LIAR.
    hmmm
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
    THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
    - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
    - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
    This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

  • #2
    a quick read of the corrupted NT will reveal some true facts.... few discern
    what?
    Paul's teachings about Yeshua were very different from those of James, Peter, and the others in the Jerusalem group
    how so?
    . It is striking that Paul's letters never quoted Yeshua,
    rarely refer to Yeshua's teachings,
    and never mention Yeshua's life.

    Paul taught his own version of Yeshua's teachings and created his own rules.
    The Christian Church throughout the 2,000 years since Yeshua has been formed by Paul's teachings, not the teachings of James, the brother of Yeshua, and, some say, not the teachings of Yeshua himself.
    BTW
    The fact that Paul did not present Yeshua's teachings in his epistles or his own preaching has been acknowledged for centuries.
    Only the Church, built around Paul, fails to admit that fact.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
    THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
    - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
    - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
    This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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    • #3
      SHOULD you THINK ONLY I can see the dishonesty of the divisional church and the strife it causes...
      many have detected the fraud

      The great theologian Soren Kierkegaard, in The Journals:
      "In the teachings of Christ, religion is completely present tense:
      Jesus is the prototype and our task is to imitate him, become a disciple.

      But then through Paul came a basic alteration.
      Paul draws attention away from imitating Christ and fixes attention on the death of Christ The Atoner.
      What Martin Luther, in his reformation, failed to realize is that even before Catholicism, Christianity had become degenerate at the hands of Paul.
      Paul made Christianity the religion of Paul, not of Christ.
      Paul threw the Christianity of Christ away, completely turning it upside down, making it just the opposite of the original proclamation of Christ"
      2nd witness

      William Wrede, in his excellent book, Paul:
      "The oblivious contradictions in the three accounts given by Paul in regard to his conversion are enough to arouse distrust. . .
      . The moral majesty of Jesus, his purity and piety, his ministry among his people, his manner as a prophet, the whole concrete ethical-religious content of his earthly life, signifies for Paul's Christology nothing whatever. . . .
      The name 'disciple of Jesus' has little applicability to Paul. . . .
      Jesus or Paul: this alternative characterizes, at least in part, the religious and theological warfare of the present day"
      3rd witness
      In Christ or Paul?, by Rev. V.A. Holmes-Gore:
      "Let the reader contrast the true Christian standard with that of Paul and he will see the terrible betrayal of all that the Master taught. . . .
      For the surest way to betray a great Teacher is to misrepresent his message. . . .
      That is what Paul and his followers did, and because the Church has followed Paul in his error it has failed lamentably to redeem the world. . . .
      The teachings given by the blessed Master, which the disciples John and Peter and James, the brother of the Master, tried in vain to defend and preserve intact were as utterly opposed to the Pauline Gospel as the light is opposed to the darkness."

      THE disguise comes before THE deception
      What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
      THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
      - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
      - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
      This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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      • #4
        the GOSPEL BETRAYED.
        WHO WILL NOTICE

        not the pews in their divisional churches - a betrayal - a Judas
        THE disguise comes before THE deception
        What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
        THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
        - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
        - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
        This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

        Comment


        • #5
          where the real trouble lies.....................
          The Church ignores these very clear words of Yeshua about love, acceptance, tolerance, and the importance of a personal relationship to God without a Church or minister/priest intervening; the reason is that Paul described a Church hierarchy and the leaders' exclusive power over people.
          power over the people =WRONG.
          He believed the churches had to stay intact while gaining more converts--Yeshua was returning any minute.
          Paul was also dynamic. He likely felt he and the leaders of the church could do a better job of evangelism than God within.
          THE RULES
          At its root, the Pauline reliance on strict rules,
          scriptural backing for the injunctions,
          full-time minister/priests who must tell people about God,
          and evangelical campaigns to "sell" God
          , reveal a remarkable absence of trust and faith. It suggests that God simply isn't powerful enough to do the job;

          God can't get it right.
          At worst, it is almost agnostic:
          they don't seem to have confidence that there even is a God who can have any influence over the people.
          The Church fills the void and presents God in the ways that suit its purposes.

          Yeshua said the Father would send the Holy Spirit to anyone who asked.
          What is it that the church thinks it can provide that God can't?


          it whole sheebang is just a hateful betrayal of the Goodnews and the teacher Holy spirit
          THE disguise comes before THE deception
          What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
          THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
          - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
          - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
          This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

          Comment


          • #6
            so we have this clapped out dead who bury the dead church posing as real but the Judas Betrayer
            are you a JUDAS?
            INTERESTINGLY A JUDAS is found in a discipleship setting.
            THE disguise comes before THE deception
            What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
            THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
            - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
            - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
            This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

            Comment


            • #7
              the fruits
              Yeshua said '' I will build MY church''=HIM HE HIM HE - not others.

              so examine the fruits of the christian churches,
              you can tell them by the fruits be manifest.
              ask the question
              Most Christians will tell you that accepting “Jesus” fundamentally changes you and that you become a “new man” (or woman).
              Why then do we see so many “Christians” still being as sinful as any other human being on the planet if not even more so at times?
              Why are “Christians” so plagued by sexual abuse scandals if they have been changed inwardly?
              Why are so many of them committing theft, fraud, and murder if accepting “Jesus” changes them for the better?
              why do they stife anf cause family wars, abusing wives and seeking divorce
              ask
              Did something go wrong?
              Was this what “YESHUA ” really envisioned for his “church”?
              And if not, where did it all go wrong?
              HERE IS WHERE IT WENT WRONG.
              “Jesus” died however, a new person by the name of SAUL/Paul appeared and claimed the right of an apostle equal with, if not greater than the other twelve hand selected apostles.
              This man Paul then went on to write a series of letters and author the majority of “books” Christians now call the “New Testament”.
              I point out again that Jesus could not have “accepted” these writings as “scripture” as they had not yet been written.
              And yet, arguably Pauls’ writings have done more to change what modern Christianity thinks and teaches than any other writer of the “Bible”, often times even contradicting and re-interpreting the accepted “scriptures” of “Jesus” day.
              I would like to draw attention to couple of parables now,
              the parables of the sower and the parable of the wheat and tares.

              The book of Matthew (Matthew 13:3-23)
              records that “Jesus” gave his disciples the following message:-BECOME A FRUIT INSPECTOR
              What if, for example, “Jesus” was telling his disciples that BAD “words” or BAD doctrines could be sown right alongside the good?
              What if the ultimate test for true followers of “Jesus” is correctly determining what is the bad seed from the good seed and staying true to that which is good?
              THE DIAMOND TRUTH AND THE DUNG LIES ARE SOWN SIDE BY SIDE.
              What if the reason Christianity has been bearing such bad fruit is that it has been living by the words of bad doctrine sown right along side the good?

              we do know for sure is that “Jesus” is recorded in the “Bible” as having hand picked 12 apostles to follow Him before His death and to them He said he would give rulership over the twelve tribes of Israel in his coming kingdom.
              This promise was not made to Paul.
              In fact, Paul never even knew “Jesus” and even brags about that regularly in his writings
              (if he actually wrote them).
              When the apostle Judas betrayed “Jesus”, another member of the twelve was chosen to take his place and again, it wasn’t Paul.
              Yet, Paul boasted repeatedly that he was the greatest of the apostles and mocked and ridiculed the hand picked apostles, the very ones predicted to rule over the coming kingdom.
              Paul even went as far as to suggest the hand picked apostles served the devil
              A bold claim for men “Jesus” claimed would rule over all of Israel in the coming kingdom.
              Yet most Christians have no idea these words are recorded right in the "Bibles" they read every day.



              THE disguise comes before THE deception
              What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
              THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
              - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
              - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
              This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

              Comment


              • #8
                SO ask what is the fate of the Pauline styles divided house?
                what is her name
                before ye defend Saul
                - produce the evidence that Saul heard Messiah and saw His whole ministry from beginning to end for 3 and 1/2 years = giving a eye witness account of His daily mission.
                it never happened - dont be a judas please
                no one admires a liar and a deceiver

                Angel of Revelation 18:2-5 tells of the Fall of (spiritual) Babylon – that great city had become the hideout of demons and evil spirits, a nest for filthy buzzards and a den for dreadful beasts. For all the nations had drunk of the wine of passionate immorality. The rulers of the world have committed adultery with her and the merchants of the world have grown rich as a result of her luxurious living. Christ is asking His people to come out of her and to not partake of her sins lest they be punished with her for her sins are piled as high as Heaven and God is ready to judge her for her evil deeds.



                now to the churches fate
                Evangelical pastor and author of “A New Kind of Christian” Brian McLaren writes:
                “Sadly, for centuries at a time in too many places to count, the Christian religion has downplayed, misconstrued, or forgotten the secret message of Jesus entirely
                .. Instead of being about the kingdom of God coming to earth, the Christian religion has too often become preoccupied with abandoning or escaping the earth and going to heaven.
                the whore of babylon is exposed her fate sealed.










                THE disguise comes before THE deception
                What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                Comment


                • #9
                  ofcourse we will always have the ''let us defend Saul our true apostle group''''

                  yet none can explain the conditions used to choose the new apostle as a true eye witness to all of Messiah ministry from beginning to end
                  No that correct history is avoided at all costs and then ofcourse we have Jesus own explosive revelation that ''' the apostles'' in Ephesus were false Rev 2 v 2

                  2 I know your good deeds, work, and steadfastness.
                  I also know that you do not allow evil, for you tested those who say to themselves that they are apostles (but are not) and you found them to be liars.
                  name their names?
                  what Do Jesus' Remarks In Revelation Imply About Paul?


                  Paul claimed to be an apostle in his letter to the Ephesians (Ephesians 1:1). Ephesus was the largest city of Proconsular Asia -- modern Western Turkey.

                  However, later on, in Paul's second letter to Timothy, Paul declared that "all those in Asia have turned away from me" (2 Timothy 1:15). In Acts 19, Luke tells us the Ephesian synagogue where Paul taught for three months and where there were substantial converts to Christ finally expelled Paul.

                  So this means that at some point after Paul wrote his epistle to them, the Ephesians for some reason ceased to regard Paul as a genuine apostle
                  . Note that he does not say that the believers in Asia abandoned the Christian faith.
                  Paul does not say that they abandoned the original Apostles of Jesus.
                  Paul says only that the believers in Asia abandoned himself.
                  For some reason, the Ephesians ceased to regard Paul as a genuine Christian leader.
                  the Ephesians abandoned Saul and Jesus approved = so does Jesus tell lies?
                  The first Asian church to be given a message is the church at Ephesus.

                  If Paul had been a genuine apostle, then surely the resurrected Jesus would have reprimanded the Asians for abandoning his genuine apostle if Paul were a genuine apostle of Jesus. However, turn to Revelation 2:2 and read how the resurrected Jesus commended the Ephesians instead:
                  "I know...that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false."



                  So in essence, this is how the dialogue proceeded:

                  Paul says to the Asians: "I am an Apostle." (Ephesians 1:1)
                  The Asians reply to Paul: "No you're not!" (2 Timothy 1:15)
                  Jesus says to the Asians: "You got that right!" (Revelation 2:2)
                  who shall defend Saul/paul and call Jesus a liar and got it wrong
                  THE disguise comes before THE deception
                  What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                  THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                  - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                  - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                  This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    hurrah hurrah - for the ultimate triumph of knowledge,
                    how
                    as Jesus enlightens every man in the world of darkness,.


                    did you notice it is JESUS THE ENLIGHTENER - no other.
                    enlighten

                    VERB
                    1. give (someone) greater knowledge and understanding about a subject or situation.

                      synonyms:
                      inform ·
                    2. make aware
                    3. · notify ·
                    4. tell ·
                    5. advise ·
                    6. let know
                      • give (someone) spiritual knowledge or insight.
                        "the Holy Spirit enlightened the Apostles"
                    only the Saviour can make you AWARE OF HIS GREATER KNOWLEDGE.
                    NO OTHER



                    THE disguise comes before THE deception
                    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                    THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                    - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                    - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                    This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Jesus is PEACE,
                      The PRINCE OF PEACE....
                      DID ''apostle saul'' who renamed himself Paul [as a person who ministered to others ] bring PEACE or strife? to the groups he ministered to and to the church body today and its some 30,000 divisions?


                      THE disguise comes before THE deception
                      What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                      THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                      - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                      - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                      This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        I had to visit a hospital today and to me it is satans theme park
                        i was thinking how many churchians are in satans holiday camp?
                        when Jesus came to set the captive free

                        What a waste. Of divine knowledge
                        the storehouse of heaven ready to be emptied out each day yet so few know the way to escape and receive the ability to live in!,,,,john 10 v 10
                        THE disguise comes before THE deception
                        What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                        THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                        - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                        - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                        This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          the pauline styled churches have STOPPED anyone from eating from the TREE OF LIFE.
                          AS THEIR DEAD STILL BURY THEIR RELIGIOUS DEAD.

                          The murderer Saul still kills the sheep and they still remain in the prison house of death,
                          That flaming sword of great apostacy still turns and the pews remain plugged in to the harlot.'
                          any proof?

                          2000 yrs of this churchy farce has continued and not 1 man woman or child has ever MINISTERED OUT AS THE MESSIAH - nor reproduced the glad tiding as Jesus did- yet- wasnt it proclaimed the pews are to do greater things even than the Saviour?
                          the only greater things is the greatness of the gross darkness of spiritual famine and the tree of life remain a mere 3 words in a book
                          THE disguise comes before THE deception
                          What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                          THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                          - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                          - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                          This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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                          • #14
                            the Pauline lie...
                            Can Born of God Christians GRIEVE The Holy Spirit?



                            what if I were to tell you that it’s not possible for the CHOSEN born of God (Born Again) Ekklesia to grieve The Holy Spirit, would you believe me?
                            Probably not, and the reason for that would be your unswerving belief in verse 30 of Ephesians chapter four:


                            Ephesians 4:30 (KJV) And grieve not The Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
                            I do not believe in the pagan heathen Trinity, like the majority of the counterfeit Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion.
                            why not
                            This Duality Godhead as described by John in 1 John 2:22-24.

                            therefore
                            the gargantuan gaff is
                            you actually cannot GRIEVE a VERB of empowerment. from the Godhead.
                            The Holy Spirit has emotions accord to the 13th apostle, and all based upon his erroneous idea that The Holy Spirit is a personage or a being of a Trinity deity.

                            when were u redeemed?
                            when was YOUR day of redemption,........... hmmmm...............

                            It’s saying we’re sealed until the day of redemption!
                            Hello, excuse me!
                            We are sealed until WHEN!!?
                            the 13th apostle got it wrong for It says: “The day of our redemption!!”
                            But when are we redeemed?
                            Answer:
                            When we REPENT, confess our sins, we are Baptised and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit – that is the day of our redemption.
                            =if we are born of God through Baptism and the gifting of the Holy Spirit WE ARE ALREADY REDEEMED – PERIOD!!
                            So, again, what is this nonsense about being “sealed unto the day of our redemption''





                            THE disguise comes before THE deception
                            What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                            THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                            - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                            - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                            This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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                            • #15
                              THE LIE and the cheating = is the question of the T,I,T,H,E,

                              why didnt you do your homework and discover the illegal rip off of
                              ''The Make Me Rich Club''
                              and the ''
                              '' I Will Live Off Your Hard Work' Club''

                              this rip off began with the O.T. Yahweh fallen gods and was carried on by the 13th ilegal apostle. Saul renamed himself Paul
                              DO YOU KNOW WHY HE IS AN ILLEGAL = see Acts 1 v 21 for apostles qualification
                              ????knock knock who is there -???? open up the mind time.

                              21 Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus was living among us,
                              22 beginning from John’s baptism to the time when Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of his resurrection.”
                              did Saul qualify = NO.
                              BUT
                              DRUM ROLL
                              he reintroduced INTO his ''my gospel'' THE TITHE.+AND so put the clergy back into the HANDS OF MAMMON and then their pew people

                              where ever your treasure is there is your heart said Jesus the truth '''UN-TITHE'' saviour
                              the good news is
                              FREELY RECEIVED SO FREELY GIVE''
                              - ACCORDING TO THE TRUE GOSPEL GOOD NEWS.

                              why do you tithe to the get rich apostate clergy?





                              THE disguise comes before THE deception
                              What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                              THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                              - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                              - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                              This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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