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  • ask! why DO christians die, ?

    BTW
    death is an enemy, the last enemy, but nonetheless an enemy.
    so can we now ask this

    what ''changes'' people at their death, that was UNABLE to be changed here and Now!

    Is 'death' some kind of magical CONDITION, that passes over a dead person and revives them so they can be nicer or more alive '' in heaven''.

    i read on a forum yesterday that because of all their infighting/divisions and weird teaching, they wondered how when they all died, they suddenly could ''become friendly in heaven''



    oh... I thought yikes.. it would be like living with the neighbours from hell.

    so back to this question... IF WE ARE HIS WORKMANSHIP.... why do church people end up dead.

  • #2
    the flesh and spiritual famine

    I feel THE TRUTH [ meaning the person and the teaching of the NT in particular] runs in opposition to prevailing church-thought,
    YET
    THE TRUTH still remains THE TRUTH, regardless of this prevailing thinking.
    We should not disturbed that The Truth, does not find wide exposure, nor make a fuss, that THE TRUTH is NOT a popular held view.
    we are in great error, when we think that all ''church-men'' shall trumpet forth THE TRUTH!

    we have to consider the days of J the B.... Elijah... Joshua/Caleb and many others, as TRUTH was hidden only in the few, NOT, the masses.

    so.. why would this aAwesome message of LIFE NOW,
    or
    endless life, or resurrection life = meaning the same type of life Jesus walks in and that IS available today from His sacrifice be ''acceptable'' to a group of people who cannot even discern THE TRUTH, from the great apostacy coming forth from the church-pulpits.

    so, we can ask
    who is creating this great falling away,
    when did it begin,
    how will it end
    and
    what are the results of a 'life' lived in the middle of all this delusive mess.
    results are..................................

    death rules!!!!!!

    2000yrs death has ruled where LIFE SHOULD HAVE BEEN FULLY INSTALLED...
    ' the people's church' with their funeral services and grave-yard plots, mostly next door to their church is a product of rebels, fleshy-sinners and false messengers who are believed in as the masses are to busy/lazy to SEEK TRUTH/SEARCH FOR TRUTH for themselves.
    They have been STUMBLED by the GOODNEWS of the Gospel.

    A NEW TYPE OF PREACHIN' IS BEING conceived and birthed out, just as it was in the days of
    J the B.
    so shall these end days be, with the glorious real life gospel being preached.
    BUT better YET, Life now = LIVED IN, by His preaching-messengers, who have sudmitted everything within them TO HIS LIFE.

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    • #3
      Actually it's simpler then that

      Shalom all:

      Here's your choices: the mountain of Life or the mountain of death.
      Two different mountains and I don't see where it says you need to go to the mountain of death first to get to life. Even more interesting is who is on the mountain of Life. So make the choice.

      Religion says die first, then life. I can't find that. It's either one or the other. Has anybody made it yet and chose life. Not that I know of. Now I have, and we will see how that works out. But to recieve Life you have to follow the path given to recieve it. If I get through the 7th day, the fruit comes on the 8th. We only have about 90 days to see if I'm on course.


      May YHWH bless you and keep you in His Word
      rockwhy

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      • #4
        .
        Originally posted by rockywhy
        Shalom all:

        Here's your choices: the mountain of Life or the mountain of death.
        Two different mountains and I don't see where it says you need to go to the mountain of death first to get to life. Even more interesting is who is on the mountain of Life. So make the choice.

        Religion says die first, then life. I can't find that. It's either one or the other. Has anybody made it yet and chose life. Not that I know of. Now I have, and we will see how that works out. But to recieve Life you have to follow the path given to recieve it. If I get through the 7th day, the fruit comes on the 8th. We only have about 90 days to see if I'm on course.


        May YHWH bless you and keep you in His Word
        rockwhy
        amen .RW.

        . religion says die first then live.... they have forgotten they are to die, to the laws of sin and death - all carnal faulty reasonings from the knowledge of the Tree of good and evil, and turn to LIVE LIFE, in the spirit...

        That '' Mt. of death ''comes,
        out from men's own creational thinking
        that ''''master of death''' is now defeated by the Gospel and the cross, but, that does not stop the creative thinking of carnal-men to still produce death within their lives.
        people can create their own reality, religious people do this all the time.-remembering they are their own 'gods'.
        so!
        They are a product of their beliefs.
        however
        if we attain into the spirit of LIFE, by walking in the spirit, in that place there is NO COMDEMNATION now... but it has to be inside that ''walk''.
        In there, = IS THE CREATIONAL PURPOSES OF CHRIST...it is HE WHO WILL CREATE THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN WITHIN US - that is why we are HIS WORKMANSHIP.. cuz we are His thinking/belief/ word creation being birthed out BY HIM only
        or
        WE ARE CREATED ANEW in Him and live inside HIS REALITY... THAT IS WHERE THE POWER [CHRIST] OF GOD COMES FROM. amen

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        • #5
          This adamah/earthly body has dirt in it.
          It must be planted.

          I need to go through the change of death
          to dump the adamah/earth/dirt back
          and BE a RESURRECTED BODY of PURE WATER.

          I HAVE BEEN BORN of SPIRIT.
          In HIS GLORIFIED BODY,
          I WILL BE BORN of WATER.

          I WILL BE HOLY FLESH and BONES,
          just like the GLORIFIED BODY HE HAD.

          LK 3:6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.

          LK 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself:
          handle me, and see;
          for a spirit hath not flesh and bones,
          as ye see me have.

          I will always be, conciously, existing with HIM,
          now that HE LIVES in me.
          I will never die.
          I will change bodies, though.

          LOVE, RICOEL
          The BODY of MESSIAH Ministry

          I did not CREATE YOU for a certain time.
          I CREATED YOU for ETERNITY.
          I CREATED YOU for ME.
          That is why I SAVED YOU.
          For ME.

          YOUR HUSBAND,
          YHSHWH

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          • #6
            i find it so interesting how others think....

            today whilst i was sitting at the beach talking to our eldest son, [a rather interesting talk ] we discovered that the church-people ALL die, for they were never allowed to develop their spiritual man within.

            The leaders /Teachers/angels of light posing with a 'title', have a deformed spirit, that is shaped from carnal religious thinking like the Pharisee, and so they pass this vile condition of gross darkness, onto their pew-people, for who-so-ever we decide to 'sit-under' we are moulded to their belief and actions.
            so many people filled with so little of Truth


            That is why, when we come out from [Called out from religion into relationship by the woo-ing of Jesus Christ] this deformed atmosphere of religious- church creeds, we SEE THE LIGHT/Revelation, of their falling away into a strong delusion TO STILL BELIEVE THE LIE and still having great apostate conditions.

            A deformed spirit is one who is 1/2 asleep [trying to become awakened],
            one that is UNDER NOURISHED, [living in spiritual famine]
            and
            one who has never been STRETCHED [by dying to the whims of their soul and body]to grow up into its full potential as a SPIRITUAL ADULT BEING.
            ENTERING IN REAL SALVATION IS - A spiritually formed adult with a message of responsibility for the Kingdom of God = the full revelation on the LIFE OF JESUS CHRIST......AMEN

            The deformity of our spirits comes from a religious harlot and her alien like church daughters in all manner of deformed teaching, for, the angels of light weave their magic influences upon people so that they may think they follow Jesus Christ, but, it is NOT the Christ of the NT bible but a man made image of a god that fails to bring forth HIS VERY LIFE INTO HIS ADHERANTS!

            so.. I have to ask, DO I HAVE A DEFORMED SPIRIT...
            I HAVE TO ASK also... why is my spirit deformed in the first place
            and
            I have to seek how to UN-DEFORM, my spiritual being from his death trance.

            when we seek these answers, we suddenly become WISE UNTO OUR SALVATION....

            what is wise,
            what is wisdom....
            the 5 wise virgins KNEW, HOW TO ENTER INTO THEIR SALVATION.
            Today whilst we were talking about the spiritually deformed, a yound guy rode past in a wheel chair, very deformed and subjected to a wheel chair existance. NO-ONE would ask for such a life.

            It is like a weird confirmation... but as I was looking at this young man, i could see how he was fully dependant upon his chair for a form of life.

            I had ''opened eyes' as this wheel-chair bound man is a type of spiritual cripple, who cannot walk in the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus properly, = this is a sign of a spiritual cripple existing in most men ever born.
            NOW THIS cripple IS inside church people, as they are fully dependant upon men [WHEELCHAIR] for their inspiration and thinking having a form of godliness only.
            Have we got a siritual cripple dwelling within? for if we have we die.

            some interesting stats... so many people = so little of Truth


            The Church

            U.S. Membership Denominational Ranking: Largest 25 Denominations/Communions --2004 Yearbook of American and Canadian Churches


            1. The Roman Catholic Church - 66,407,105
            2. Southern Baptist Convention - 16, 427, 736
            3. The United Methodist Church - 8,251,042
            4. The Church of God in Christ - 5,499,875
            5. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - 5,410,544
            6. Evangelical Lutheran Church in America - 5,038,006
            7. National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc. - 5,000,000
            8. National Baptist Convention of America, Inc. - 3,500,000
            9. Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) - 3,407,329
            10. Assemblies of God - 2,687,366
            11. The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod - 2,512,714
            12. African Methodist Episcopal Church - 2,500,000
            13. National Missionary Baptist Convention of America - 2,500,000
            14. Progressive National Baptist Convention Inc. - 2,500,000
            15. The Episcopal Church - 2,333,628
            16. Churches of Christ, Corsicana, Texas - 1,500,000
            17. Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America - 1,500,000
            18. Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc. - 1,500,000
            19. American Baptist Churches in the U.S.A. - 1,484,291
            20. African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church - 1,430,795
            21. United Church of Christ - 1,330,985
            22. Baptist Bible Fellowship International - 1,200,000
            23. Christian Churches and Churches of Christ, Joplin, Mo. - 1,071,616
            24. Jehovah's Witnesses - 1,022,397
            25. Church of God, Cleveland, Tenn., - 944,857


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            • #7
              Amen, Lucysmith! Your nose is on to something ...

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              • #8
                hello Ringo..

                ''Ye are gods (ELOHIYM) and all of you are children of the most High, but ye shall die like men." Psalms 82:6

                and that is exactly what most people do.. die like men.

                Many people feel that their ''greatest achievement'' will be to DIE, and go to heaven. This type of teaching has been going on for centuries.
                can we listen to the WORDS of Jesus when He says this...

                ''Jesus answered them,
                Is it not written in your law, I said ye are gods?
                If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent unto the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? John 10:33-36
                but
                these words or this reasoning drove the Jews to a frenzy and they again sought to kill him right on the spot "but he escaped out of their hand." John 10:39

                God is a Spirit...
                when we prevail as God, [Our example is Jesus Christ and His prevaling - has to be our prevailing too, as we are to be LIKE Him amen] it is because our spirit has matured, grown up, no longer deformed by Adamic thinking, no longer subjected to our fallen soul, but HAS BECOME ALIVE, unto salvation [freedom]... the spirit within us, has escaped the cluthes of deception.

                we are to WAX STRONG in the Spirit... not die and go to heaven...we are to BE HERE... THIS IS OUR HOME. We are made to live and subdue here.
                Jesus cannot 'come back' till all His enemies are under His feet.-His footstool
                Ps 110,v 1

                let us now ask some questions..
                who are ''his feet''
                who are ''His enemies''
                why is He waiting?
                can we hasten the day of ''His Appearing''.

                .......THERE SHALL BE A PEOPLE WHO
                will rule in the midst of Thine enemies...v 2
                see
                v 3 where it says '' Thy people shall BE WILLING, in the day of Thy power''

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                • #9
                  there shall be a PEOPLE, who will rule in the midst of Thy enemies

                  11-07 am...29TH Jan, 2006

                  people...
                  rule over.......
                  enemies.....
                  <*}}}}><

                  words to be EXPERIENCED IN REAL LIFE
                  words that spell LIBERTY, FREEDOM AND KINGDOM.
                  The 110th Psalm is the most quoted of the Messianic psalms throughout the new covenant revelation.

                  it is so interesting to see that 'the enemies' are still there...but... a willing people, SHALL RULE in their midst....
                  death is ' an enemy'..[the last enemy, but nonetheless still an enemy].
                  ask this.. WHO shall rule over death.... answer..those who are MADE WILLING, in the day of His power.

                  Our purpose, our destiny, is to rule the world according to Father Creators laws

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                  • #10
                    Our Glorious Body!

                    Hi Lady Lucy,

                    Thank you for your posts and insight. You are like a cool breeze on a hot summer's day!

                    Men die because it is their just due. It is what men earn. Death is their wage, their payment. Death is the end result of their activity. How can we be so bold to maintain that we can avoid receiving our just due? How can we go against what has always been? Why should you and I and others succeed where countless millions have died not even expecting to live?

                    We have already died, Lady Lucy! We died with Messiah Yahushua. This is why I appreciate you so much. You know that you have already died, and you seek by your life to prove it. You know that life is all about overcoming death, and you are not afraid while living to put your old sinful nature to death. You are willing to use the death that you have been given with Messiah to overcome sin, and you are willing to use the death of that which is sinful within you as a stepping stone to life. You are willing, and I find that very good!

                    When I contemplate the glorious spiritual man, Messiah Yahushua, I am immediately drawn to the story of Moses requesting to see the glory of YAHWEH ELOHIM. What was shown to Moses was the whole history of humanity. We do not want to be on the backside of ELOHIM. We do not want to be told, "Get thee behind me!" Rather, let's be part of the face of ELOHIM. Rather, let's be part of ELOHIM'S walk, HIS feet. Rather, let's be part of HIS activity, HIS hands.

                    The right hand and foot of ELOHIM are symbolic of spiritual righteousness. The left hand and foot are symbolic of physical righteousness. It is marvelous in my eyes that the left hand has no awareness of the activity of the right hand unless you are a part of the head of the Body. Ability is really increased or enhanced by the activity of the right hand. Here is an example:
                    • Sprinkling the unclean with the ashes of a Red Heifer is the activity of the left hand. To sprinkle physical ashes mixed with physical running water upon those defiled by sin and death does not really render the sinner a saint, but the actual physical sprinkling does count as physical righteousness. This activity is part of the left hand of ELOHIM. The Jews were engaged constantly in this activity in Temple days. They had no idea that their activity was a shadow, a mere glimpse into the powerful spiritual activity of the right hand.
                    • Sprinkling or preaching to the unclean, all those defiled by sin and death (the whole world), with information about the death, burial, and resurrection of Messiah Yahushua has the power to render the unclean clean. It has the power to penetrate to the heart and make us willing. It has the power to make the dead (you and me) come alive. LIFE NOW is cleansing from Death! This is the powerful work of the right hand of ELOHIM. This right hand activity is spiritual righteousness.


                    The feet of ELOHIM are symbolic of the walk of ELOHIM. There is a physical walk, and there is a spiritual walk. As with the activity of the hands, the left foot is a shadow of the right. Paul makes mention of the spiritual walk in Ephesians 2:10. We learn how to use our hands before we learn how to use our feet.

                    Sincerely, Ab
                    The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                    • #11
                      amen Spying, i am amazed at what you know...

                      when i was reading your post, i could see the inner workings of a swiss made watch....=.... the wheel and the little cogs all ticking together making time, [called COGWHEELS] and i was instantly reminded, that HIS OVERCOMING saints, are like these cogwheels as each wonderfull saint ticks away, to join with all other cogs [saints]... to form that wondefull CITY OF ZION... a watch!
                      http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX169/bxp32832/
                      here is a photo of what i was thinking about
                      ... notice, this pic shows no 8... notice it is in the wilderness, notice the cogs interlocking to make 'time', together.

                      I know 15,000miles separates us from meeting face to face, but, if we did meet one day we would never stop flowing in the revelations of the Holy Spirit. When you meet such a person time becomes NO more...and it becomes a joy unspeakable as the glory is falling...amen.
                      i comment on your post Spying,,
                      Men die because it is their just due.
                      It is what men earn.
                      Death is their wage, their payment.
                      Death is the end result of their activity.
                      How can we be so bold to maintain that we can avoid receiving our just due? How can we go against what has always been? Why should you and I and others succeed where countless millions have died not even expecting to live?
                      Spying...
                      this is ONE AWESOME quote...
                      death is their wage....
                      Spying.. how great a deception is this hey?
                      to think ''i am ok'' and then die, never understanding they have received their wages and have been paid out in full.


                      your quote..
                      Why should you and I and others succeed where countless millions have died not even expecting to live?
                      Because, we HEARD, the revelation from the HEART OF JESUS CHRIST,[john 11] and we have then lined up our lives to OBEY HIS VOICE,[Ps 23 /Ps 91] and walk in the Spirit of Life, and in this place only... there is now NO CONDEMNATION...
                      for all other who are religious
                      the wages of sin is death - there is a CONDEMNATION....DEATH IS A CONDEMNATION to prove that TRUE LIFE WAS NOT FULLY ESTABLISHED WITHIN.
                      IF, we are His workmanship.. result is, we become His life, in an earthen vessel and this vessel learns to stand in the midst of all evil... IN VICTORY, JUST AS CHRIST KNEW HOW TOO amen.
                      the enemy DOES NOT GO AWAY.. OH NO!!!!!! THAT TOOL IS AN EXPERT, but what changes is..... US,.. HOW???. by knowing how to overcome in the midst of all darkness amen.

                      thinking...
                      to release groaning creation.. notice... the releasee has to have STOPPED THEIR OWN PERSONAL GROANS to RELEASE and deliver others... but also notice.. the groaning around about is still there... for a time.......no fairy wand takes it awaywith one snap!
                      it is all about OVERCOMING EVIL....

                      YOUR QUOTE SPYING..
                      We have already died, Lady Lucy!
                      We died with Messiah Yahushua.
                      This is why I appreciate you so much.
                      You know that you have already died, and you seek by your life to prove it. You know that life is all about overcoming death, and you are not afraid while living to put your old sinful nature to death.
                      You are willing to use the death that you have been given with Messiah to overcome sin, and you are willing to use the death of that which is sinful within you as a stepping stone to life. You are willing, and I find that very good!
                      Spying, one measureing stick i believe is this..'' how much do we hate sin?
                      and to what lengths shall we go to cease from it''
                      like i posted before,
                      I do believe Abba Father creates in His saint, the same intensity of hated to sin as HE HAS....perhaps this is an indication of how far we have grown it His image of maturity???????

                      i loathe sin... repulsive/loatheing is too nice a word, but nothing in english describes my utter hatred of the destroying power of sin. I loathe death, for i find all death is UN-wanted and UN-natural to the human mind. Death is an enemy! why do people forget this?
                      Do you think, as Father reveals HIS LIFE TO US, death becomes even more repulsive?
                      I have always been like this.. it is not a new thing for me... but i have always hated seeing destruction happening!

                      comment writen by Bill Britton~
                      DEATH OVERCOME BY FAITH

                      Three times Jesus raised people from the dead before His own resurrection. Let me tell you, beloved, it took faith for this young Galilean preacher to stop a funeral procession with all its solemnity and its sorrow of heart as the poor widow mother was taking her son to the tombs.
                      What criticism was heaped upon Him as He intruded upon the poor woman's grief.
                      But His compassion reached out to her, and His faith demanded action!
                      criticism turned to wonder as the young man got up from the funeral bier and was delivered back to his mother.
                      How the people laughed Him to scorn when He declared that Jairus' daughter would live. But she did.
                      In answer to His all conquering faith.
                      What a fool He would have been, what ignomy and shame would have resulted had not Lazarus answered His summons from the open door of the tomb. What if there had been only the sickening stench of dead flesh to greet the bereaved sisters ? Oh, but friends, with this Faith in operation there are NO "ifs".
                      It does not fit into circumstances, it creates circumstances!
                      By the power of this faith He arose from the tomb victorious over death, hell, and the grave. By the power of this same faith, operating through His glorious Body, shall other graves be opened and saints of all ages arise victoriously!
                      Death is defeated!
                      Faith is the victor! Open your hearts to receive the full measure of this faith. With the coming of the Holy Spirit we received the first-fruits of our inheritance. And with this came a "measure of faith" (Romans 12:3). But God's eternal purpose for those whom He hath chosen is that we might receive "the Spirit without measure',, and with that comes this measureless faith of Jesus.

                      Wake up, saints! Lift up your heads and rejoice, for the time of your full salvation is at hand. You "Who are kept by the power of God through FAITH unto salvation ready to be revealed IN THE LAST TIME. " (I Peter 1:5) .... The unveiling, or revelation, or appearing of our Christ is at hand.





                      cont

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                      • #12
                        reach for the stars.. cont...

                        HIS FEET... I loved the other revelation Bill britton had....about HIS FEET... here is the site, plz enjoy.

                        The Feet are Needed

                        Now we come to the crux of this message. Verse 21 says that the Head (Jesus) cannot say to the Feet (a company of saints living on the earth); "I have no need of you." Col. 1:18 and Eph. 1:22 confirms that Jesus Christ is "the head of the body." In a normal birth, the head is the first and the feet are the last to be born. So it is with this Manchild, the New Creation Man. We have come to the hour when the feet are being brought forth into the fulness of His glory. But it must be done to a company of saints still living here on the earth. "We shall not all die," the apostle tells us. There is a change coming, and something is going to happen to us right here on the earth.

                        It is this feet company that I want to write about today. The Word is full of this truth, giving the nature, characteristics, and activities of this great people If the scriptures had so much to say concerning John the Baptist, Judas, and the first coming of Jesus, is it strange that there would be so much written about the people who come to the end of the age and bring forth the manifestation of the Sons of God? We have many times read over scriptures that spoke of the Feet, and never gave it a thought. We never realized that God was speaking to us of a company of people that we were to be a part of. Now let us open our hearts for divine revelation, and look into God's Word to see what He has to say about the Feet of this Body of Christ.

                        Washed from all Earthly Filth

                        The great need for those who live here on this earth is that they come to a life of absolute perfection and purity.
                        There can be no true and full manifestation of His glory out of a people who are loaded with sins and bad spirits.
                        The feet must be washed.
                        In chapter 3 of Zechariah, we see Joshua the high priest standing before the Lord in filthy garments, and the devil standing there to accuse him. But Joshua is cleansed and made holy and able to properly minister. He is a type of that "Branch" (vs. 8) that shall come in the last days, and (vs. 9) God says He will remove the iniquity in one day.
                        Did not Jesus say: "I am the vine, and ye are the branches"?

                        "I have refrained my feet from every evil way, that I might keep thy word." (Psa. 119:101).
                        There cannot be a full keeping of His Word until a people living on this earth have refrained from every evil way, and are walking in perfection.
                        Someone may say: "But that is impossible." Impossible with God?
                        He has promised it.
                        Jesus commanded it: "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matt. 5:48).
                        The picture is given in John chapter 13 where Jesus washes the feet of His "church." Jesus warned Peter that if his feet were not washed, he would have no part in the glory of this Kingdom.
                        He also told him that it was only the feet that needed washing. For it is just the people who live on this earth that need cleansing. There is no purgatory for the dead.

                        The saints who have already gone on do not need a perfecting work done on them while up there in heaven. It is the ones here on the earth, the Feet, that we are concerned about getting cleansed. He will wash them, by the Word, until He refrains His "feet" from every evil way.
                        Speaking of His church on earth in Eph. 5:26 he says: "That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the Word, that he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."

                        That sounds like a perfected company, doesn't it?

                        Washed by the Word

                        You see, there is to be a people in the last days who come into a greater knowledge of His Word than anyone who has walked this earth, except Jesus. Even Paul said: "Now I know in part." The part shall be done away, and the perfect shall take over.
                        For if we are to be perfectly washed and cleansed, we need a perfect understanding of His perfect Word. This New Creation Man shall be clean, perfect, no longer bearing the image of that earthy Adam. And to bring us to that, we need a strong cleansing agent.
                        His Word, clearly understood, is that agent. Psa. 119:105 says: "Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path." Why not a "lamp unto my eyes"? Because God is telling us here that the part of the Body of Christ that needs the light of the Word, is that feet company that is living on the earth at the time this Body is manifested in His glory.

                        In Nehemiah chapter eight, we see a tremendous picture of Israel being brought into a knowledge of the Word of God. Now notice several importance things: First of all, it was taking place in the "seventh month" (verse 2), on the first day of the month. This was the time for the "blowing of the trumpet" for the Feast of Tabernacles. This is very significant. Since Passover speaks to us of Justification and Regeneration experience, and the Feast of Pentecost is symbolic of the Holy Spirit coming upon the church, the Baptism in the Spirit, gifts of the Spirit, etc., then this last great Feast of Tabernacles in the end of the year speaks to us of another great realm of the Spirit for His Church.

                        It is the time of the fulness, the "ingathering."

                        It is at this time that there is a great impartation of understanding the Word. Notice also that this is a post-captivity book. That is, the remnant of Israel had come out of Babylon to rebuild the Temple and the City of God. Isn't it strange that during the 70 years the people spent in Babylon, they did not understand the word? They had the Book.
                        But they did not receive understanding of it until they had come out of Babylon. What about the majority of Israel who had remained in Babylon? We have no record of the word being made alive to them. When Babylon fell, they fell with it. It was those who had come out of Babylon that God took into a realm of revelation of His Word. Verse 7 says: "The Levites caused the people to understand the law: and the people stood in their place.
                        So they read in the Book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading." Verse one says that the people had gathered themselves as "one man."
                        Let me say to you that until that "one man" has come out of Babylon and been gathered together "unto Him," that there will be no fulness of the word revealed, nor shall the watchmen see eye to eye. However, we are even now moving toward that place, and as a result there is a glorious light from the Word breaking upon us. We are now seeing truths that have been hidden from ages and from generations.
                        The people wept (vs. 9) when they saw how far short they had come of God's perfect plan. But Nehemiah told them not to weep, that it was a holy day, and for them to eat the fat, drink the sweet, and send portions to others. "The joy of the Lord is your strength" he said. And truly this is a day of joy.
                        It is a day when His Word is coming forth in power and clarity, and the scriptures are being made alive to us. The doctrines and traditions of Babylon are being blown away as chaff before the fan, to be burned in the furnace of fire.

                        Teaching the Nations

                        Not only shall this feet company be cleansed by the washing of water by the Word, but out of them shall flow a fountain of living waters to bring life to this world.
                        The nations shall sit at His "feet" to learn wisdom. "Yea, he loved the people; all his saints are in thy hand; and they sat down at thy feet; every one shall receive of thy words." (Deut.33:3). We find a story of a demon possessed man in Luke chapter 8. This man represents this lost world who is ruled over by the powers of darkness. You know the story of this man of Gadara. He met Jesus, God's New Creation Man, and was delivered from the rulership of Satan.
                        Now where did the people find this man when they came running out from the city? "Sitting at the feet of Jesus, clothed and in his right mind." (vs. 35).
                        This world will feel the impact of this last day New Creation Man (the harvest of Jesus the Seed). This world will be set free from the bondage of corruption, and the rulership of principalities and powers in the heavenlies. Then the world will sit at His "feet."
                        That is, they will learn from and be governed by a people living on the earth who have come into the fulness of Christ



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                        • #13
                          Christian die because they sin, and the wages of sin is DEATH!

                          The Christian religion is Satan master piece to deceive.

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                          www.yahweh.com/bookofyahweh.com

                          Free your mind from the deception.

                          BB

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                          • #14
                            Buying And Selling On The Sabbath IS VERBOTEN!

                            Hi Billy Bayou,

                            I encourage fishing and fisherman. You have freedom here to entice all you want for the House of Yahweh. However, the scripture says:
                            Proverbs 23:23
                            23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.
                            Everything at Lo Ammi has been bought and paid for, and it is freely given to everyone lucky enough to find their way here. Why does not the House of Yahweh do the same?

                            Even more so, why does the House of Yahweh encourage buying and selling on the Sabbath Day? Abraham obeyed the Laws (customs and traditional ordinances orally transmitted from generation to generation) of YAHWEH ELOHIM.

                            If you want to live, Billy Bayou, it is up to you!

                            Sincerely, Ab
                            The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                            • #15
                              For all the FREE booklets you will ever need, go to.....

                              www.yahweh.com

                              Order all you want, when you want, and share this web site with the whole world!

                              By the way Father Yahweh is NOT AN ELOHOM!

                              BillyBayou

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