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**LucySmith** · 01-21-2006, 05:36 PM

cont to wonder at THE VICTORS... amen

cont.
The Spirit spoke again and said, That I must also reject and separate the
"22,000" for they are "fearful and afraid" (Judges. 7:3). Wherein are My people
afraid and fearful, saith the LORD? I tell you that many of My people are in
fear of the enemy for they fear man, they fear trials, they fear persecutions,
they fear the cost of discipleship and forsaking all to follow Jesus. Because
they do not walk in My fear, and in total love and faith in Me and My Word, then
I must separate them; for in the great conflicts and battles that lie ahead they
would only fail Me. The Spirit revealed very emphatically that because many
Spirit filled believers are in such a state of unbelief in God and His Word,
then they are in no position to wield the "sword of Gideon", the Word of the
LORD; nor are they "vessels fit to be broken" whereby the light, the glory of
the Lord shall shine forth through them!

The Spirit spoke again and said, That My work of separation must continue for
I will bring the "10,000" down to the water, for there will I try them, as I
tried the 22,000. The Spirit revealed that the true Gideon's army will reveal
themselves by how they drink. They did not do as the 9,600 did, who "bowed down
upon their knees to drink" (Judges. 7:6). The Spirit revealed that this is a
picture of many Spirit baptized believers who would want to be a part of end-
time ministry or Gideon's army. Like an animal going to the water to drink when
desperately thirsty, many plunge their heads beneath the waters and fail to
watch and prepare. The Spirit said, That many of My people are not watching
as commanded in My Word and so they are being overcome by the enemy in
many ways; yea, they have fallen prey to ravening wolves, false ministers and
doctrines of demons. By this they have revealed their heart, it is a heart that
desires to drink from cisterns of men and the pleasures of sin and easy
believism. By their conduct and actions they disqualify themselves from My
end-time army. Some have drunk of the water of Life and My Word, but they
have not been watchful to believe and obey My Word.

But then the Spirit of the Lord showed how that those men "that lapped of the
water with their tongue" (Judges 7:5-7), even these men were those who
received the end-time Water of the word with all watchfulness. The Spirit spoke
and said, That it will be by the conduct and actions of those who receive My
Word and work in these last days, that I will prepare, equip and anoint as My
Gideon's army in these last days.

The Spirit of the Lord showed how that the 300 are those who are chosen of
the Lord because they have submitted to Him, His Word and the Spirit in all
things. They will be those who follow in the footsteps of Jesus. Like Jesus
their Master, they will walk and live in total faith, obedience, holiness, love
and submission to the Father and Word. They will be those who walk in the
Spirit, who are overcomers in all things, and have come to maturity because they
first prepared and were faithful to the Lord in all things. This "remnant" will
be those who have paid the cost to walk in victory by the death of self, prayers
and fastings; and in absolute knowledge of their sonship position and authority.
The Word of God will be their meat and drink, and they will be those who have
the Truth and they speak it in the power and demonstration of the Spirit. Then
the Spirit spoke and said, That like as Gideon and the 300 had only a trumpet,
and empty pitchers with lamps therein (Judges. 7:16-20) for weapons to defeat
the enemy; so to it will be with the end-time Gideon's army I am equipping. The
weapons I have given them will appear as foolish and base to the world and
most of My church, for they rely upon fleshly and carnal weapons; but My
weapons are mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds (2 Cor.
10:3-5). The Spirit said, That the church has substituted many "carnal"
weapons of denominationalism, colleges, seminaries and religious education;
yea, they have multiplied to themselves presbyteries and boards; they have
substituted man and boards as a covering for Jesus' Blood and Headship; yea,
they have exulted their organizations and theology over the wisdom and
knowledge of the LORD God Almighty; they even think that the ways of the
world when united with My Name will give them victory; for have not My people
substituted the carnal weapons of psychology, medicine, counseling, political
activities worldly music and such like?

But yea, saith the Lord, Have not I given you Divine and supernatural weapons?
My weapons are the gifts of the Spirit, the Name of Jesus, the Blood of the
Lamb, the dunamis of My Spirit, the sword of the Spirit - the Word of God, and
the spoken word of faith! I challenge you, saith the Lord, to search My Word,
be as the Berean's and see if you can find any other weapons that I have given
My church!

And then the Spirit spoke and said, My army shall minister and speak in the
same realm of faith the Lord Jesus did, for theirs will be a ministry of the
spoken word of faith, for it shall be even as the Master said, That whosoever
shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea;
and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he
saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. (Mk. 11:23) The
Spirit then spoke and said, That Gideon's army will speak the Word of faith
and like Joshua, Elijah, Elisha and Paul they will decree a thing to come to
pass and they will boldly command in the Name of Jesus (Job 22:28;
Isa.45:11). For have not I said, saith the Lord, He that believeth on me, the
works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do also;
because I go unto my Father. (Jn. 14:12) O My people, believe ye in the Lord
and His Word!

And then the Spirit spoke and said, That many, yea most of My people will
stumble and be offended when they realize this, but it must be this way!
Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God
is stronger than men. (I Cor. 1:25).

The Spirit said, read My word in I Corinthians chapter 1, verses 27-29; for
there you will see My ways! He said, read My word through My anointed apostle in
I Corinthians 2, verses 1 through 6 and there you will see My ways! And then
the Spirit spoke and said, That even as the Spirit of the LORD came upon
Gideon, and he blew a trumpet; and Abiezer was gathered to him; even so
have I sounded forth the trumpet in this last hour. For as the light doth shine
into darkness, saith the Lord, so hath My Word revealed unto you My will for
this hour. Be not a doubter but a doer; do not hesitate, do not wait; but in all
earnestness move into the place of spiritual development and faith I would have
you to walk in, to live in, to move in, to minister in, in this hour, saith the
Lord!
Gideons Army.................................................
................................................By James Rule

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i found this from an old study i had done and forgotten:
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lucy

**Spying** · 01-22-2006, 06:15 PM

Drinking Our Cup!

Hi Lady Lucy,

This is the distinguishing feature of the 300:

Judges 7:6

6 And the number of them that lapped, putting their hand to their mouth, were three hundred men: but all the rest of the people bowed down upon their knees to drink water.

These 300 scooped up water with their hand and lapped that water like a dog with their tongue. I do not understand everything here, but I do understand some.

Caleb, whom I have sought to emulate in my life through spying out LIFE NOW, was a Gentile. His name means "dog":

H3611

כּלב

keleb

keh'-leb

From an unused root meaning to yelp, or else to attack; a dog; hence (by euphemism) a male prostitute: - dog.

Yelping and attacking come in handy blowing the shofar, that is, preaching the Gospel of LIFE NOW!

Eating and drinking are symbolic of activities which give and sustain life. Eating:

John 4:43

4 Yahushua saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

gives eternal life, and so does drinking water (see John 4:14).

Water itself is symbolic for the Word of ELOHIM. At our conversion, we each were baptized or immersed in the Word of ELOHIM. This contact with the Word is the beginning of our cleansing, and at first, this contact with the Word is for the most part external.

The 300 are unique in that they have learned how to internalize the Word of ELOHIM in two distinct ways. The 300 have learned to take the Word of ELOHIM into their hands forming a cup. Our hands are symbolic for our conscious work. A cup is symbolic for a specialized work that is specific to the individual (see John 18:11). The hands of the 300 form the cup from which they drink. In other words, the 300 see a role in the Word of ELOHIM, and they set their heart and face to accomplish that role.

The 300 then further internalize that role through using the tongue.

The most distinguishing feature of the 300 is that they are instructors. They are teachers and preachers of the Word who have learned to abound in the Work of YAHWEH ELOHIM:

1 Corinthians 15:58

58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of ADONAI, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in ADONAI.

Remember that we are unique because it has been given to us to be unique through Messiah Yahushua.

Sincerely, Ab.

**LucySmith** · 01-23-2006, 12:40 AM

i am learning much Spying thank you 4 y're post.

Originally posted by Spying

Hi Lady Lucy,

This is the distinguishing feature of the 300:These 300 scooped up water with their hand and lapped that water like a dog with their tongue. I do not understand everything here, but I do understand some.

Caleb, whom I have sought to emulate in my life through spying out LIFE NOW, was a Gentile. His name means "dog":Yelping and attacking come in handy blowing the shofar, that is, preaching the Gospel of LIFE NOW!

Eating and drinking are symbolic of activities which give and sustain life. Eating:gives eternal life, and so does drinking water (see John 4:14).

Water itself is symbolic for the Word of ELOHIM. At our conversion, we each were baptized or immersed in the Word of ELOHIM. This contact with the Word is the beginning of our cleansing, and at first, this contact with the Word is for the most part external.

The 300 are unique in that they have learned how to internalize the Word of ELOHIM in two distinct ways. The 300 have learned to take the Word of ELOHIM into their hands forming a cup. Our hands are symbolic for our conscious work. A cup is symbolic for a specialized work that is specific to the individual (see John 18:11). The hands of the 300 form the cup from which they drink. In other words, the 300 see a role in the Word of ELOHIM, and they set their heart and face to accomplish that role.

The 300 then further internalize that role through using the tongue.

The most distinguishing feature of the 300 is that they are instructors. They are teachers and preachers of the Word who have learned to abound in the Work of YAHWEH ELOHIM:Remember that we are unique because it has been given to us to be unique through Messiah Yahushua.

Sincerely, Ab.

amen..

I like what u have written Neo-Spying / Noe Spying.

I write Noe.
for Noah as i understand it = this number 300 is Included quiet alot in the measurements of the ark, that crossed over into a new life in a new land.
so perhaps we can say '' the 300 unique men, were able to instruct others into the ark'' = of the covenant, and this 'covenant' meaning the breaking of the 'covenant of death'... see Isa 28

Isa 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

Father has placed within us a different Spirit... it is called INDOMITABLE one - one that NEvER GIVES UP.
Your heros are my heros too.
what they had we want.
we are INFLUENCE BY THEIR raw COURAGE AND VALOUR... they stood together in the face of great odds.

Spying...
May i talk about this ''different spirit'' here plx, to shed some light on this wonderfull element... within these 2 men.

In The past few days, i feel i have grown in some type of new understanding of the POWER OF THE SPIRIT, and how to be used BY THIS POWER, to attain the PROMISES OF GOD FOR HIS PEOPLE...

The suffering we pass thru is a type of school master for us,
for without it we will never learn how to spiritually survive.
IT IS PART OF OUR COURSE... the tests and the firey furnace = is a must to pass thru,
but,
the fruit of this is, - THE POWER WE RECEIVE/ATTAIN.
or perhaps A BETTER WAY TO put THIS IS... the power to Enchrist us comes.
It comes, as we become filled with His moral virtue, having the responsibility for His Kingdom, and this Holy power is for
... SERVICE...
not as some mad ego trip, BUT FOR His SERVICE.
The POWER TO D.E.F.E.A.T. all foes.
This Spirit overwhelms us, and conquers our will, our fear, our doubt, and smothers out our human timidity and makes us STRONG IN THE LORD AND IN THE POWER OF HIS MIGHT.
It is the power to stand and say'' NO more'' to that tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and not run away from the roaring of evil INTIMIDATIONS.
Spying...
we are coming out from our dark-controllers, learning to spiritual survive great odds, learning how to stand and have the same type of Faith as Christ does.
WE are NOT our own but His tool and in His school of a DIFFERENT SPIRIT, that very few people ever experience.

that is how INSTRUCTORS ARE MADE.
they learn to suffer as the holy-INSTRUCTIONS take effect within them.
A CHANGED HEART,
a NEW WAY OF SEEING THINGS,
a NEW HOPE,
a NEW ETERNAL LIFE...
all now possible because we are being trained up to LAP and as we lap, we defeat... amen

**LucySmith** · 01-23-2006, 02:04 AM

cont....6 56 pm monday evening

Spying...
we are coming out from our dark-controllers, learning to spiritual survive great odds, learning how to stand and have the same type of Faith as Christ does.
WE are NOT our own but His tool and in His school of a DIFFERENT SPIRIT, that very few people ever experience.

that is how INSTRUCTORS ARE MADE.
they learn to suffer as the holy-INSTRUCTIONS take effect within them.
A CHANGED HEART,
a NEW WAY OF SEEING THINGS,
a NEW HOPE,
a NEW ETERNAL LIFE...
all now possible because we are being trained up to LAP and as we lap, we defeat... amen

the bible talks about, principalities, powers, dominions, rulers in dark places, etc...
have you ever understood this Spying...who/whom are these?

i was thinking....
what IF we are LIKE A WINDOW DISPLAY CASE...
a glass zoo...

and as we grow up IN Christ, these spirits [whatever their name is] can ''see'' us, breaking thru that flesh veil, and they can understand the times we are in because of this revelation in the spiritual realm...
and,
when we break thru in the power of the Lord , we bring all the glory to Jesus Christ
AND... it is THIS GLORY, that HIGHLIGHTS HIS APPEARING IN US THAT AFFECTS, the whole of creation.

now i am not saying this is a fact.. it was more or less Thinking out aloud.

**israelthebride** · 01-24-2006, 04:37 PM

To not BE GOD YHSHWH'S VICTOR is transgression.

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world:
and this is the victory that overcometh the world,
even our faith.
1JN 5:4
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Transgression means:
trans..
the act of or moving of a subject and/or item
Example:
transfer: to move from one place to another
transcend: to move beyond a measured point

ag·gres·sion
1. The act of initiating hostilities or invasion.
2. The practice or habit of launching attacks.

Therefore, “transgression” means “to move in a hostile, attacking way”.
To be “transgressive” would mean
“one who is in the habit of moving in a hostile, attacking way”.

The American Dictionary says that
“transgression” means “a violation of a law, command, or duty”.
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So,
in my belief and understanding
in YHSHWH’S WORD/LAW/COMPLETE TRUTH (Genesis to Revelation),
“transgression” means
“to move against YHSHWH and HIS WAYS, HIS STATUES, HIS LAWS”.

To “transgress” would mean to
“depress when one is in oppression”
because YHSHWH allows “oppression”
so that we will know that
we are “victors”, not “victims”.

depress
1. To lower in spirits; deject.
2. a. To cause to drop or sink; lower. b. To press down.
3. To lessen the activity or force of; weaken.

oppress
1. To keep down by severe and unjust use of force or authority.
2. To weigh heavily on.
3. To overwhelm or crush.

victor
One who defeats an adversary;
the winner in a fight, battle, contest, or struggle.

victim
1. One who is harmed or killed by another.
2. A living creature slain and offered as a sacrifice during a religious rite.
3. One who is harmed by or made to suffer from an act, circumstance, agency, or condition.
4. A person who suffers injury, loss, or death as a result of a voluntary undertaking.
5. A person who is tricked, swindled, or taken advantage of.

So,
to be into “depression” during “oppression”
is to be in “transgression”.

To be the “oppressor” in an “oppression”
is to be in “submission”.

submit
1. To yield or surrender (oneself) to the will or authority of another.
2. To subject to a condition or process.
3. To commit (something) to the consideration or judgment of another.
4. To offer as a proposition or contention.

intr.
1. To give in to the authority, power, or desires of another.
2. To allow oneself to be subjected to something.
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So,
To be in “submission”
is not to be in “transgression”.

Therefore,
when YHSHWH allows “oppression”
it is so that we will know that
we are “victors”, not “victims”.
We are to be the “oppressors” in all “oppression”.
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I AM a “VICTOR” because YHSHWH SAYS so.

1JN 5:4
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world:
and this is the victory that overcometh the world,
even our faith.
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Under all situations and “oppressions”,
I AM not under any JUDGEMENT,
until I die.

MT 12:20
A bruised reed shall he not break,
and smoking flax shall he not quench,
till he send forth judgment unto victory.
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Even in “death”,
YHSHWH has made me a “VICTOR”.

1COR 15:54
So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption,
and this mortal shall have put on immortality,
then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,
Death is swallowed up in victory.

1COR 15:55
O death, where is thy sting?
O grave, where is thy victory?
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I AM a “VICTOR” in HIS BODY,
THANKS to YHSHWH!!!

1COR 15:57
But thanks be to God,
which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
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My REWARD is in YHSHWH’S VICTORY!!!

REV 15:2
And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire:
and them that had gotten the victory over the beast,
and over his image, and over his mark,
and over the number of his name,
stand on the sea of glass,
having the harps of God.

I WILL SING of HIS VICTORY!!!

REV 15:3-4
And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God,
and the song of the Lamb, saying,
Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty;
just and true are thy ways,
thou King of saints.
Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name?
for thou only art holy:
for all nations shall come and worship before thee;
for thy judgments are made manifest.

I will not “transgress”.
I will "submit".
I AM YHSHWH’S “VICTOR” in HIS “VICTORY”.
AMEN

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