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    salvation and its completion.

    salvation is a process
    what is the FINAL STAGE of our completion...


    It’s in Hebrews 6:1-2.


    The Bible says that Christian-Life begins with salvation,
    then goes on to lay a believer’s foundation in six parts.

    The seventh part, the Bible says, is to

    "Go on to completion."
    And, it says to not keep repetitively laying that same foundation.
    So, what is "completion?"

    the divine answer is ''WHEN THE LAWS OF SIN AND DEATH ARE NO LONGER AFFECTIVE IN OUR LIVES and the LIFE OF CHRIST IS FULLY ESTABLISHED WITHIN OUR OWN PERSONAL LIFE.''

    HOW IS THIS DONE? -by completing the mystery - see Eph 3 v 9 = ''to make all men see, what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid In God,who created all things BY Jesus Christ!''

    ''if'' we are NOT ''completed IN Christ'', we are NOT part of this awesome mystery????

  • #2
    to BE a part of this Mystery we are to go on into completion
    meaning = the fullness of Christ who completes all things -mature- growup - into responsible sons who go about their Father's business, without CONTINUAL CORRECTION!.

    Let us LEARN HOW TO OVERCOME .......ALL THINGS.... IN the anointing Christ has.
    Being Prepared to take possession of that Promised Land!

    Learning how to overcome each one of our problems, so that they no-longer hold us as their captive. - their laws of death BROKEN UTTERLY over us IN HIS HOLY POWER. amen.


    THE BIBLE IS ALL ABOUT COMPLETION.....
    THAT'S THE WHOLE GUTS OF THIS BUSINESS.....
    NOT TO WIMP OFF as some lifeless and defeated woe, the tail between our legs, head down, wimping along always as some weird overcome victim. THAT'S NOT HOW THIS STORY ENDS.

    WE ARE NOT in some ''comfortable christianity'' that has a form but lacks power.
    These people are like revolving doors.
    They come in and go out on a diet of milk [continually making Jesus Christ a babe in a manger] and never growing up
    or
    perhaps become an old aged home, for the hospitalised spiritual cripples- the 80yrs old who sat on a pew and never changed. They stuffed themself with bottles and are became hags, from the wrong diet.

    YES! the church does enrolled disciples -but they NEVER TAUGHT THEM ''''''everything''''''' Jesus Commanded.
    The bible FORBIDS the re-laying over and over again of the same foundation.[Heb 6]
    they STOP SHORT of C.O.M.P.L.E.T.I.O.N.

    Jesus tells us of His 6 ministries during His first advent. Luke 4 v 18-19
    then HE CLOSED THE BOOK
    but
    He has 7 ministries.
    The 7th is for the end days = Isa 61. v 1-3.

    He needs a ''COMPETED PEOPLE'' to fulfill this ministry amen. = God's Judgement upon Earth.... that's THE FATHER'S BUSINESS He needs His sons for. = Judgment/release of all groaning creation etc. amen.
    HE NEEDS..

    a people TO BE AS 'I AM'
    a PEOPLE HE CAN TRUST,
    a PEOPLE TO CARRY OUT HIS BUSINESS,
    CO-WORKERSTOGETHER,
    BEING SO CONFIDENT OF MAKING HIS DESIRES AND DECISSIONS KNOWN HAVING A POWER OF ATTORNEY IN ALL MATTERS KNOWING FATHER IS BACKING UP OUR RESPONSIBLE DECISSIONS ALWAYS! Just as He walked with Jesus Christ so He will walk with us amen
    He needs PEOPLE filled up with his life now.... that is the only way TO OVERCOME ALL THINGS IN HIM.....

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    • #3
      cont...
      the reasons i am writting this post is so we have to LEARN... HOW TO WALK..... THROUGH...... TRIBULATION.

      can u ever understand what i am saying????????????????????????

      when tribulation comes it is no good busting our gut trying to understand what is going on... we are to LEARN IN ADVANCE HOW TO OVERCOME all things In Christ, so that ''when that day comes'' we are ready.
      as example
      Joshua was READY to cross into the Promised land that day, but all the religious others [except Caleb] were not.... their failed the 'cross over' test.. they failed from fear of the giants.
      Again.. Joshua gets a 2 nd chance Moses dies and a NEW LEADER arises that can take them over into the PROMISED LAND....
      Have you read about this mighty man of God?
      I have, I love him! I admire him and want to be like him. HE KNEW HOW to escape from all giants and KNEW how to trust In Father no matter what he saw nor felt.
      Jesus was threatened 11 times with death... but each time HE PASSED BY.
      that's what us saints have to learn to do now... PASS BY..... bypass the laws of sin and death that capture us and learn to successfully walk within HIS SPIRIT OF LIFE.
      if WE DONT LEARN NOW... WE ARE DEAD MEN.

      WE HAVE BEEN BIRTHED FOR THIS TIME.... JUST LIKE ESTHER WAS BIRTHED FOR HER TIME.... the old queen is dead [the church] she would not do as she was told by her Master...THE NEW VIRGIN who is so beautifull to Him [beauty means matured] Father has found/finding.... a people willing to die to everything but HIM. [ see Ps 110- v 1-4]
      A NEW ORDER has appeared/appearing called The ORDER OF MELCHEDIZIC.. the order of endless life and these people understand how to overcome all things and withstand tribulation successfully in the power of Christ,.
      This group of His overcomers shall walk as Christ walks.
      see Isa 60... ''arise and shine for thy light has come'' = their motto! they are to arise from the dead religions of men and shine with the same shining as Christ on the Mt of Transfiguration amen. - that is a real life demonstration of the divine life within an earthen vessel.
      Father Abba, is now directing the Elect, so that, they cannot be deceived. He is making them into His sons [ adopting them] to bear witness to the Truth of the Life of HIS SON Jesus Christ.

      When we begin to make HIM real in our lives = HE BECOMES OUR REALITY amen

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      • #4
        cont

        Father is now lifting His people, out from dead-duck religion...taking away all our religious gaffs and replacing it with HIS TRUTH! = HIS SON!
        SEE
        the Truth IS A PERSON namely = HIS SON-THE TRUTH- HIS SON ALIVE IN HIS PEOPLE- GIVES FORTH THE TRUTH amen.

        now the truth is such that -we must be a Bride without Spot or Wrinkle.
        notice HE wants ALL OF US, not just a part of us.
        For to "ASCEND ALIVE" HE
        needs a Human Body, a New Wineskin that is has been filled with New
        Wine- His Word of Truth.


        THAT IS WHY i mentioned the 6 earthen jars, filled with new wine at His wedding.[John 2]
        We cannot be filled up, WITH CHURCH LIES and pagan practices and ''ascend alive'' -that's impossible. Get rid of all dross! that fails the crossing over tests!


        One thing i have noticed, is the practice of WOO-ING.

        WOOING IS A MALE ROLE...WOOING.... wooing is so nice.... dont u think?
        to be woo-ed..
        tis very romantic..
        but what Is the response to divine woo-ings?
        MEANING the WOO-ER AND HIS RESPONDING BRIDE.
        woo-ing.

        The Lord showed this picture to me once about His wooing.
        There was a lake, in the moon light, a moonlit lake and He came dancing on moonbeams... HE ASKES US TO DANCE... WITH HIM... ON THE MOONLIT LAKE ON A MOONBEAM IN THE WATER.... this is how we gain His faith, by doing things HIS WAY that are impossible to fix our way... HE FIXES all things for us.[ math 11 v 28-30.]-that is a divine husband's role u see.

        Have you noticed.... WE ARE HIS BRIDE.
        DOES NOT A HUSBAND GET VERY ROMANTIC WITH his bride.... DOES he not tell her his plans so, how MUCH MORE, shall the Royal Bridgroom Speak to His Queen?
        so what does HE TEACH her?
        why it is....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
        ''HOW TO DRAW HIS SPIRIT NEARER to herself''
        after all we are to remember ''the bride made herself ready'' amen.
        how!!! How did she do this ?

        [QUOTE if we Trust HIM
        1000% We will Reach our destination.[/QUOTE]

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        • #5
          cont
          if we trust IN HIM 1000% we become His destiny...
          We have to learn we are NOT our own anymore... we cannot say ''I will do this or I will go there'' any more... BUT ''FOLLOW ME'' only and He walks where hardly any man has walked before. He is the first person to walk this way and it is HIS great desire for others to follow after Himself.

          The ancient Red indians had a battle-plan that worked,

          Their Chief would walk first and all his warriors would walk IN [on top of] his footsteps, so that, the enemy were fooled, thinking it was only one man rather than a whole ARMY of warriors.

          In practice, a saint has to walk in HIS Steps to learn how to withstand/defeat tribulation!
          We cannot be fainthearted,
          or
          boasters of 'ever learning but never arriving'!
          BUT trained up as TRUE SOLDIERS WHO always DEFEAT woes and foes!
          WE are to be HIS TEMPLE... joined IN Him, co-ordinating with Him over all issues! winning this war! BY LEARNING HOW TO STAND, in the evil day!
          We are in training to JOURNEY INTO HIS ANOINTING correctly and come out the other side = called the Kingdom of God = matured and filled up with all impossible things.
          In the immortal we can ascend and descend at will!
          so lets us pray to be blameless in Spirit, Soul and Body at His appearing amen

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          • #6
            cont.
            Father Abba, is not really interested in ''one-man-bands'' [the pastor, the pope, the reverend etc,] but divine LIVING STONES [PLURAL].... people joined together IN UNITY OF SPIRIT!
            Each living stone, is to become a SKILLED WORKMAN...fixed and put in that special place in His temple, where they divinely belong.
            HIS TEMPLE IS A PLACE OF ORDER AND BALANCE AND HARMONY!
            nothing upsets inside this Holy Place as each STONE, has been hand picked and hand made By God as ''His workmanship'' filled with a divine purpose and spiritually equipped for divine-ness.
            Father Abba in now in the process of joining such STONES together, each STONE bringing their ''expertness'' into His temple FOR HIS GLORY!
            for expertness... let us wonder over Moses and how the pattern of the heavenly temple was introduced into the earthy one.
            Our destination - is the
            Anointing with Ministry plus as a greater Reward we "Ascend Alive".


            SKILLED WORKMEN...Exod.35 v 35,
            [in bible numerics no.35 is -HOPE]
            WHEN I READ THIS.. my heart soars to be worked on By Father Abba= to be a skilled workman in His army of Soldiers... amen.


            ''them HE HATH FILLED with WISDOM OF HEART, TO WORK ALL MANNER OF WORK,of the engraver, and of the cunning workman, of the embroiderer in blue, and in purple, in scarlet,and in fine linen,and the weaver,even of them that do any work,and of those who devise cunning work.''

            are we growing up into a ''cunning work''?

            but
            what is a cunning work?

            a 'cunning work' in reality is like the Indian Chief who knew HOW TO OVERCOME all the powers of his enemies - his heart was filled with wisdom.

            Our destiny is the
            Anointing plus Ministry as a greater Reward we "Ascend Alive".

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            • #7
              The final stage of salvation is LIFE FROM THE DEAD! Glory! That means so many things in so many contexts, but the essence of it is to be released from the power of decay.

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              • #8
                exactly!

                Originally posted by Ringo
                The final stage of salvation is LIFE FROM THE DEAD! Glory! That means so many things in so many contexts, but the essence of it is to be released from the power of decay.
                and what is even more wonderfull....... to have this glory [of the fullness of Christ in us]to release others.

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                • #9
                  the glory of LIFE, or, the plague of death.

                  the visible church has been plagued by death and has never seen the glory of LIFE.

                  it is so interesting to notice a verse that says ''come out of her, My people, that you partake NOT of her plagues''.
                  Mystery Babylon ( in part - Churchianity + all paganized man made up religious beliefs) have the same call ..........................................
                  "come out of her My people that you partake not in her plagues."
                  The church
                  has been plagued for 2,000 yrs, with the worst plague being death.
                  Not too many of My people really understand about salvation, freedom from the fallen nature , liberty for the captives, and the realm of real life = the same life Jesus Christ walked inside of 24/7.
                  The ''hope of Glory'' is a small remnant from out of all mankind, who have been called out from every form of false ways, trained up, by God's Holy Spirit, into the real salvation message called the Goodnews, - A people who will defeat death by ascending alive into heaven to be His temple
                  and His New Jerusalem.
                  ascending alive = the full anointing. amen.
                  or
                  attaining freedom, from every law of sin and death.- All that satanic influence caused by that Tree of good and evil must be fully removed and that Tree of LIFE, eaten.

                  in the Book Of Jasper chapt 6..there is a great description of what happened in Noah's ark.. saying,
                  v-31. ''And Noah prayed unto the Lord, and cried unto him on account
                  of this, and he said, O Lord help us, for we have no strength to bear
                  this evil that has encompassed us, for the waves of the waters have
                  surrounded us, mischievous torrents have terrified us, the snares of
                  death have come before us; answer us, O Lord, answer us, light up thy
                  countenance toward us and be gracious to us, redeem us and deliver
                  us.

                  v-32. And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Noah, and the Lord
                  remembered him.''
                  http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/jasher/6.htm
                  We now have a different Ark, His name is THE TRUTH,! and to escape we are to dwell richly In Him, and when we have HIS VERSION of THE TRUTH woven inside us, death and its law is defeated.
                  see 2 tim 1 v 10.

                  satan goes around roaring, seeking whom he can devour... this roaring noise... most of it is the many voices of man-made up religious tales
                  .... so...
                  It is only when the Holy Spirit awakens us up TO THINK, [not hear them only ]but actually study and think for ourself, under His directives, we finally see this sham,- these counterfeit human beings, [angels -of-light] pretending to ''have it all''.
                  When we are taught of the Holy Spirit, we will stop listening to that ''roaring'' that noise that smoothers us, and we shall find PEACE, even amid at cursed roar. amen.

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                  • #10
                    a hard adamic trait to have erased....double-mindedness

                    cont 17th Jan.

                    this is one awefull [explicit* ] trait to get the heave ho from...
                    the plague of double minded-ness. This cursed trait will stop our ascension for sure.
                    In Christ we have to undo, and change all adamic thinking concepts,and then embrace the PRESENCE OF CHRIST, and have a new adopted nature.
                    BY doing this we will remain within HIS CREATIVE ABILITY amen


                    our mind has to be fused, with His mind to overcome this evil tree of good and evil eating of double-minded-ness.
                    we have to learn to remain in the midst of ALL of His creative ability.
                    then doing what we hear, we will allow the increase of Him within.
                    BENJAMIN No More Son of Sorrows, but Son of My Right Hand First name Ben-noni (Son of Sorrow) Israel renamed him Benjamin (Son of my right Hand) Declare in the midst;
                    fire as glory,
                    tribulation as strength,
                    trials as approval and victory.
                    As we agree with our difficulties, the difficulties become joys.

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