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    God the Father First

    Two Dirty Words

    Beloved my dear friends
    God loves you all
    “Two Dirty Words”

    What a subject to talk about but its true this two words can get you into trouble if you say they are just words that are not even in the bible.

    1. Trinity
    2. Rapture

    There a lot of people who used both words to proved their point but what is the truth. Lets look at the main verse used to prove each.

    The Trinity
    1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
    8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
    9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

    Now there is a fight whether to believe in trinity or not a named given to these verses

    Are the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit are they one or do they agree as one?

    Are the Spirit, the water, and the blood do they agree as one or are they one?

    The Father is God the Creator

    The Word is God and all so Jesus Christ but who word is Jesus Christ speaking if he all ways does the Father will

    The Holy Spirit is God but Jesus Christ is all so known as the holy spirit the gift

    We know all three agree as one but are they really one I leave the answer up to each person

    Plus the matter is small next to loving God first and loving each other second

    Now lets move on

    The Rapture

    There a lot of people who used both words to proved their point but what is the truth. Lets look at the main verse used to prove each.

    1 Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
    14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
    15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
    16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
    18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
    5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
    2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

    Yes some call this the Rapture and some say it will be the day of Judgment

    Now I do not like using either of these fancy words

    So the dead in Christ will rise first but who are the dead in Christ?

    If we were made alive by believing in Christ that not us even if we have died in the flesh

    The dead in Christ would be all the children of God that died before they could be made alive by Christ wining over death

    So who are the Alive in Christ ?

    All the believers that have received the holy spirit the gift of Christ in them the Christ in us

    This could not happen until Christ won over death

    With the Trump of God what is this?

    The day the dead in Christ will or have raised first

    The bible talks about the dead risen after Christ died and rose

    So I just leave this here

    Now the Alive in Christ

    “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air”

    The same time no after the dead in Christ have rose first how long after its does not say

    But there other books talk about it happen fast but does that mean both dead and alive rise the same time?

    I will not say.

    This is the place I will leave it because I do not want to fight over small things but I would love to hear what others might say without fighting.


    with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

  • #2
    religion of men, has many tangents,.

    hello Roy.

    satan makes sure, religious men run where he wills them too.

    as long, as his kingdom is intact, he does not mind what religious men think and believe 'IN' as LONG AS IT, is NOT the same BELIEF SYSTEM, as Jesus Christ has... he does not care~!
    he loves us to ''dabble-in-peripherals'
    Only the people, called the Royal Household of Kings and Priest, the living Temple not made with hands, come into an understanding of the lies, verses the TRUTH.

    does 'belief' in the trinity save us?
    does 'belief' in a rapture save us?


    Nothing shall save us, but the Cross picked up and carried daily, giving up our own lives, so that only His divine power and will flow thru us and out to mankind.
    The ministry of the Body of Christ, His ministers, are filled with a Zeal, that eats them up, and the anointing of the Holy Spirit is so strong, NOTHING can stand before them.
    They are to have absolute power over the works of the devil = Math 18.v.18 etc~! and represent God, among men, as emplified by Christ.
    so... let us ask this.
    What does Jesus tell of His Kingdom, lorship and power... that way we have first hand information rather than the muddlied waters of men and their opinions.
    I love THE CORE of the Gospel, THE GOODNEWS = ''seek ye first the Kingdom of heaven, and ALL ELSE, shall be added unto you'' only when we do this, can we ever begin to understand the rest of the Word of God, for it is by HIS REVELATION, we develop our belief system the same as Jesus walked in. amen.........revelation =what Abba did for Peter that day = math.16.v.18-19

    what KEYS~!


    • #3
      God first

      Beloved LucySmith

      God loves you

      Yes the written word is just the milk but the meat is when we walk in spirit

      While the meat makes us strong the milk washes down the meat

      or that what I got out of what you wrote


      Glad we can walk about things with love

      with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy


      • #4
        Yes Roy, let us eat from HIS MEATY table

        I love the Holy-meat Roy, i used to drink the religious-milk, but i found out some babes grow up, grow up into fine spiritual adults, as LONG as Jesus Christ feeds them.. their due portion.

        I once did a lovely study on Prov.31... the woman of virtue....[That is a very worthwhile study i feel]
        I felt this referred to both women and men.... as the soul is the female part of us all.[but that is another story]
        I found in there a little verse that said something like '' she fed her daughters, their meat IN DUE SEASON'' [paraphrased] I often used to wonder about this MEAT, and THE SEASON....till i found out we are to GROW UP and become EVERYTHING CHRIST, died to give us = IN THIS LIFE not 'in some heaven' for what it its use there?
        We cannot be cut ofF from divine-meat-eating, by running about after tangents of 'ever learning', but never let us be arriving, into the HOPE of Glory, meaning full maturity.,
        The glory is for THIS LIFE~! we know JESUS BROUGHT His Father the Glory of showing Him, to all mankind, thru HIS own LIFE.
        The church, has its sacred cows, they fight over, YET, do they SAVE men?NOPE... church-men die, the church sometimes even has its grave-yards next to the church hall.
        I always ask '' WHY DO, THE GATES OF HELL, prevail''? when Jesus made it very clear, ''they shall not prevail''.
        Some part of the answer is because the babes remained babes and never grew up, to bring forth the Kingdom of God, under the full Lordship of Jesus Christ. Father cannot give His kingdom to the immature. Imagine it.
        I was given the understanding of a school yard, and the immaturity that went on in that place, the fighting, the punches, the scabbles, the bullying... are all signs of childhood and baby-ways of an immature mind. This is the same in the Spiritual, we are to be SONS, and BE ABOUT, OUR FATHER'S BUSINESS, in a very responsible manner. TO GROW UP and mature and be alive in all knowledge and in all truth amen


        • #5
          God first

          Beloved LucySmith

          God loves your heart

          Yes they think God looks at what they believe or how must they think they understand but as you know he looks at the hearts

          And you have a pure heart

          get on eating spiritual meat


          with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy