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  • LucySmith
    no more time......

    [QUOTE]NOWis the start of HIS PLANNED END.

    be made of uncut stones.
    into a TEMPLE, with a STRONG FOUNDATION,
    made for GOD YHSHWH to INHABIT.

    amen.Ricoel... amen to that

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  • israelthebride
    is the start of HIS PLANNED END.

    be made of uncut stones.
    into a TEMPLE, with a STRONG FOUNDATION,
    made for GOD YHSHWH to INHABIT.


    For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works,
    which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
    Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh,
    who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called
    the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
    That at that time ye were without Christ,
    being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel,
    and strangers from the covenants of promise,
    having no hope, and without God in the world:
    But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off
    are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

    For he is our peace, who hath made both one,
    and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
    Having abolished in his flesh the enmity,
    even the law of commandments contained in ordinances;
    for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
    And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross,
    having slain the enmity thereby:
    And came and preached peace to you which were afar off,
    and to them that were nigh.

    For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
    Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners,
    but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
    And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets,
    Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
    In whom all the building fitly framed together
    groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
    In whom ye also are builded together
    for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
    EPH 2:10-22


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  • LucySmith
    time is NO more....

    Gather ALL HIS PEOPLE from all over the world and bring them home to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 11:12; 27:12-13)

    Abba, shall tell us such things... see Jer.33.v.3.
    He will tell us His plans for us!
    We live in exciting times Ricoel.
    Yesterday, as I was mediating upon the way my life is and how i think, and how this is being changed, i Heard........ '' and time shall be NO more''.
    Abba, Father, is in the process of drawing His people OUT from ' worldly time' as 'time' is where the law of sin and death rule, and into a new and living way, called '' abundant life IN Christ Jesus''.
    Time is growing short,
    Time is running out,
    Time is where the secondary world of the 5 senses thrives.
    But, as I heard '' and time shall be NO more'' I came to realise that as we grow up and mature IN Christ Jesus, we come into that 'secret place'' THE EVER PRESENT 'NOW' of Father, and in 'NOW', it is always NOW and immortals live there.... in Now.
    His people shall learn to live past time, as HIS PRESENCE gathers momentium, within our lives.
    As Example... everything Jesus did in His ministry to others, happened when HE SPOKE... NOW... and straight away.... something happened., some miracle or event occurred at HIS SPOKEN WORD.

    I was thinking this over and I found out, that is because HE WAS YIELDED up to Abba Father, into that realm where NO time actually exists, so when He speaks IT IS NOW DONE...= because He was able to BRING the higher realm of 'NOW', into a lower world of time.
    If you are immortal and live inside eternal life = [Roms.2.v.7] all time has ceased to be real, and now i understand HE IS MAKING, His temple OUTSIDE of worldly time.
    This temple, not made with hands is an eternal temple, an immortal temple where 'NOW 'IS EVER-PRESENT and the spoken word is instant as NOW is higher in value than time.
    Regarding 'time', His people have to cease to dwell there and this is now happening to them in revelational knowledge [Eph 1.v.17-19]and HOW TO ESCAPE, the clutches of all time.

    Therefore that organism called religion, church religion will be very seeking, but never arriving, for they are bound as a slave to a corporation and an institution as are all this world's religions, no matter how sincere they appear to be. When there is such a binding into divisional cells, no good thing can be produced.

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  • israelthebride
    We, HIS BODY, continue in the FULFILLING of the MESSIAH PROPHECIES.

    Please read:

    All the PROPHECIES will be FULFILLED
    and HIS BODY will be GLORIFIED.
    We will be "taken in a cloud" as HE was.
    (Rev. 11)


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  • LucySmith
    the bible is an amazing book, when the Holy Spirit is our Teacher

    THANK YOU for your thank you Spying.

    Here is some tib-bits for our understanding~!

    Judas + money = traitor's relationship.
    ''THE ....LOVE..... OF MONEY is the root OF ALL EVIL''~! 1 Tim.6.v.10

    it is not money itself, but THE LOVE of it.

    in verses 9-10 this ''LOVE'' does terrible things to people.

    the church-traitor-Judas~! works on the LOVE of money~!

    see this revelation Plz.

    the FIRST MIRACLE the 2 great Apostles Peter and John did, was to raise up the lame man at Gate BEAUTIFULL..SEE acts 3.

    then Peter said '' SILVER AND GOLD, HAVE I NONE, ..etc...''

    PETER and JOHN, were working only in the POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OF no church man CAN continually say this, + bearing the same results as these two JESUS CHRIST BREATHED UPON APOSTLES.

    The 'love of money' is from satan and as he controls churchianity-Judas, no great continuing miracles as we read about in the early assembly flows out to needy and desperate people daily.
    The People of Abba are separated from church and its systems, they are called out from all manner of false ways and heresy teachings, to be made pure, holy and without spot nor wrinkle.

    Watch as Abba Father shall dry up their 'church-money-supply' and they shall crumble.

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  • Spying
    The Rape Of Messiah!

    Hi Lady Lucy,

    I know that you are sleeping now, but when you awake, you will see a big:

    Thank You

    This is certainly true for me:
    They gave up, the church system, they died to their own wills and plans and desires~!
    The giving up does not so much come from us. It comes from Messiah who works surrender in our lives as Messiah did for Paul. We are given no real choice until we fully surrender.

    Judas is interesting. Judas is everywhere. Judas acts and speaks against the Word of ELOHIM according to his own ideas and will:
    I don't believe that!
    is a common refrain of Judas with the emphasis on the "I".

    Judas is the Azazel Goat sent into a desolate place under the authority of HaSatan, his guide and fit companion. This is why HaSatan was allowed to enter Judas.

    The Saints are called out of the Judas system of religion or faith. His faith leads to death and not life as you do say. Those who knowingly follow his faith are committing suicide.

    Betrayal is the most hurtful of sins. It is like unto the brutal rape of a young virgin woman by a close relative.

    The Cross was the rape of Messiah by HaSatan and all the children of HaSatan. Enduring this rape (Messiah did cry out for help), Messiah captures all seed (spirit) which HaSatan and the Judas System release in their wicked pleasure. This is pictured by the spear thrust in the side of Messiah, and the veil being rent before the Holy Of Holies. This gives us all an idea of what the spiritual Holy of Holies really is: The Womb of the Mother of all the Living! From this womb emerges the reborn YAHWEH ELOHIM in whom we live and have our being.

    Praise YAHWEH! To HIM belongs all power and glory forever!

    Sincerely, Ab

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  • LucySmith
    started a topic What JESUS Christ do we actually believe IN

    What JESUS Christ do we actually believe IN

    there are 2 Types of Jesus Christ presented to us.
    Both are 'one', but both are very different from each other.

    The ONE the church worships, is the son of man, who was crucifed on the cross, who did miracles and loved and helped people and died to save men from their sin... this is the popular figure of this system called 'church Jesus' and He basically stops at the cross. They cannot get past the cross and the forgiveness of sins, so they die still ever learning but never arriving.

    The other Jesus Christ, [the called out remnant have,] is the Son of God, who walks IN RESURRECTION life NOW, or, inside a new way of Life only HE could introduce to this world and SAVE people, from the laws of sin and death.

    We = the called out ones = have gone on past the cross and its finished work and into the realm it opened up before us...CALLED... THE POWER OF HIS RESURRECTION~! now available as we walk with HIM.[Phil 3.v.10-14]
    Jesus Christ INTRODUCED HIMSELF to Saul, the religious Jew, that day, and Saul was changed INTO PAUL the Apostle.
    The REAL RESURRECTION JESUS, apprehends His saints, and introduces Himself to them, so THEY KNOW, who He is and What a life of 'following' only Him re-produces for us.
    He will give us '' the key of David'' and this is a key to the House of Knowledge/Authority, that the church-system has shut-up, and so because of this remains naturally deformed and powerless and a 'form' of religion only.

    There is one interesting thing to wonder over... That man named Judas = the look-a-like saint, who had a 'different jesus' in mind when he betrayed Him and received 30pieces of Silver of his work...
    A JUDAS.. is in the church system, not outside of it~!
    the fact about Judas [according to the bible] was ''he carried the purse'' or was the money man.
    What ? are we told about money $$$$ the dollars from the bible is = the root of evil and what else?, Jesus threw out the money changers in His Fathers Temple, saying ''this is My Father's house and not a den of thieves.''

    What is
    ''the tongue'' of the world?

    MONEY talks~!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$=the tongue of the world?
    Money is the language every man knows.
    What is money?
    It is like blood to the world, as it flows it gives' life' to the world.
    Judas and money are like hand and glove.
    Without money, the Judas system of church religion would collapse.

    now, it gets interesting.
    The true one accord brethren, gave up, or sold up all they had and HELD all things in common according to scripture.
    This can be a natural rendering but also a spiritual one
    They gave up, the church system, they died to their own wills and plans and desires~!
    They threw away ministries and profiteering and merchandising the Gospel, FOR THEY MET THE RESURRECTED JESUS CHRIST for themseves and were CHANGED, into seeing HIM, AS their OWN PERSONAL RESURRECTION LIFE force Saviour~! and as He introduced Himself to these saints... THEY KNEW HIM, as their-Resurrection- life~! [John 11.v.25] and this TRUTH then set them free.

    see... we have to be told the whole story not break off and use one section only and then to re-live it over and over and over.
    WE ARE TO GROW-UP....not always re-laying over and over and over and over and over... THE FOUNDATION of the Cross BUT WE ARE TO SEE.... WHAT SPIRITUALLY GROWS OUT FROM, THE CROSS AND ITS.... F.I.N.I.S.H.E.D. works.
    Jesus Christ has a LIFE, after the Cross and He wants to share this amazing life He has with others, so that they become HIS image called the hope of Glory.

    I highlight this disaster in all church systems

    Churchians live in such an incredibly shallow and limited and even distorted understanding.
    If you ask them any question, their only answer is Jesus.
    They have no idea what is unfolding on the other side of the veil of His flesh.
    All they see is His crucifixion, and nothing regarding His resurrection work