Babylon

[Sandy]

Do you know there is no such place as Babylon in the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament)?

[Phinehas]

Really?

Sandy,

Apparently you have a different copy of the Hebrew scriptures(Old Testament) than I do. Or perhaps we should be waiting for a punchline.

Phinehas

[Sandy]

Babylon Hebrew #894 and 895 lbb Babel

The name is Babel not Babylon.

• Genesis 10:10
  And the beginning of his (Nimrod's) kingdom was Babel...in the land of Shinar.
  
  Genesis 11:8-9
  8) And YHUH scattered them from there, over the face of all the earth. And they ceased to build the city.
  9) Therefore its name was called Babel because YHUH mixed the lip of all the earth there...
  
  Daniel 1:1-2
  1) In the third year of the reign of Yahuyqim, king of Yahudah, Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babel came to Yerusalem and besieged it.
  2) And Adonai gave Yahuyqim, king of Yahudah, into his hand, with part of the vessels of the house of the Elohim, which he carried into the land of Shinar to the house of his elohy.

I did not realize until just recently that the Israelites where carried away captive to Babel, the very same city orginally built by Nimrod.

NOTE: I used the BSTHebrew font to shown the Hebrew characters above. Therefore they may not appear as Hebrew characters to everyone, but simply as "lbb".

[Phinehas]

Sandy,

Ok, that's where I figured you were going. "Babylon", no doubt is an over-anglicized version of "Babel". Beyond that I'm not sure I see any significance. There are many transliterations of people names and place names in the scripture that have made a less than accurate jump to the English from the Hebrew. I don't think it changes the concept of what Babel(Babylon) is in the scriptures.

Shalom,
Phinehas

[Sandy]

Originally posted by Phinehas
Sandy,

Ok, that's where I figured you were going. "Babylon", no doubt is an over-anglicized version of "Babel". Beyond that I'm not sure I see any significance. There are many transliterations of people names and place names in the scripture that have made a less than accurate jump to the English from the Hebrew. I don't think it changes the concept of what Babel(Babylon) is in the scriptures.

Shalom,
Phinehas

One would think that maybe Babel became Babylon because that is the Greek name for it, but the KJV uses Babel at Genesis 10:10 and Genesis 11:9, but in every place of the Old Testament after that it is translated Babylon. Why?

Knowing that I did not realize until just recently that the Israelites where carried away captive to Babel, the very same city orginally built by Nimrod, it makes me wonder how many other people are also ignorant of this fact. By that I mean not realizing that Babylon is really Babel, the city originally built by Nimrod.

[Phinehas]

Sandy,

I know you don't place much stock in the veracity of the New Testament Scriptures, but I'm wondering if you can see a connection in the following, now that you know Babel and Babylon are the same?


Revelation
18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold
of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and
the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of
her plagues.

18:5 For her sins have REACHED UNTO HEAVEN, and Yahweh hath remembered her iniquities.


Genesis

11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

11:2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they
dwelt there.

11:3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone,
and slime had they for morter.

11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may REACH UNTO HEAVEN; and let us make us a
name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

11:5 And Yahweh came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.


Phinehas

[Sandy]

Habakuk 1
1) The burden which Habakuk the prophet saw:
2) Until when YHUH shall I call for help and you will not hear? I cry out to you, Violence! But you do not save.
3) Why do you show me evil and behold toil? Ravage and violence are before me; and there is strife and contention rises up.
4) Therefore, the Torah has become feeble and justice does not go forth continually. For the wicked enclose the upright, so justice goes forth being perverted.
5) See among the nations and behold and be greatly amazed. For a work is working in days which you will not believe, even though it is told to you.
6) For, behold, I am raising up the Kasdim (Chaldeans). The bitter and impetuous nation that is going to the broad spaces of land to possess dwellings not his.
7) He is terrible and fearful. His judgment and majesty come forth from himself.
8) And swifter than leopards are his horses and fiercer than evening wolves. And horsemen spread out and their horsemen shall come from afar. They shall fly as the eagle hurrying to eat.
9) All shall come to ravage, gathering faces forward and they gather captives like the sand.
10) And he shall scoff at kings and officials shall be laughing-stock to him. He shall laugh at every fortress and shall heap up dirt and capture it.
11) Then he sweeps on like the wind and he transgresses and is guilty. And credits this power to his eloah (god).

[Phinehas]

Sandy,

If your posting of Habakkuk 1 is in response to my question about a connection between Revelation and Genesis, it seems a little cryptic. Or perhaps I'm just dense. At any rate it is one of my favorite prophetic passages.

Phinehas

[Sandy]

Concerning the book of Revelation, I personally feel the majority of its material is plagiarized from various parts of the Hebrew (OT) Scriptures. The majority of which comes from Jeremiah, Daniel and Zechariah.