I am one of them! How about you?

[LucySmith]

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Hi Everyone,

How many billions of people now live on this earth? How many have lived and died between Messiah Yahushua and the present? How many billions do now claim to believe in Adonai Yahushua?

Messiah said:
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John 11:26
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Either Messiah is a liar, or there exist no actual believers in Messiah Yahushua! He who lives and believes shall never die. Your death, the death of those that you have known, death, save for martyrdom, proves one's unbelief!

Are there any that have believed? Yes! I call them immortals!

Are there others who now believe? Yes, there are a few, and I am one of them! How about you?

Sincerely, Ab
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yes! I am one of Them. The revelation has to be revealed by Christ into a saint's heart, otherwise no-one shall believe.

I do and I agree with what you have written. amen
are there immortals among us, YES there are.

[Spying]

Excited!

Hi Lady Lucy,

I hope I am not jumping to the wrong conclusion again. I hope you are Lady Lucy, and if you are, welcome back, and thank you for forgiving my mistreatment of you in our past. If you are not Lady Lucy, then I am still delighted to meet you, and I am excited to read your response.

It takes boldness to step forward as you have stepped forward. Messiah Yahushua did not come to save us from death after we die. He came to save us from death while we live. He came to show us the way of life. I did not know that when you were last here writing on this forum. Did you know then?

Welcome, Lucy Smith, welcome!

Sincerely, Ab

[LucySmith]

Hi Lady Lucy,

I hope I am not jumping to the wrong conclusion again. I hope you are Lady Lucy, and if you are, welcome back, and thank you for forgiving my mistreatment of you in our past. If you are not Lady Lucy, then I am still delighted to meet you, and I am excited to read your response.

It takes boldness to step forward as you have stepped forward. Messiah Yahushua did not come to save us from death after we die. He came to save us from death while we live. He came to show us the way of life. I did not know that when you were last here writing on this forum. Did you know then?

Welcome, Lucy Smith, welcome!

Sincerely, Ab

Thank you for your welcome Spying and yes, it is the 'lady' u remember from long back.
I saw your revelation in writting and i was so thrilled to know out there in this huge big world the Lord is telling HIS REAL GOODNEWS to some folks and they are listening to Him and learning about His glorious work for us and what to expect from it.
and
NO!
i did not know this revelation when i last wrote upon your forum [ some time back]. I do believe this rev, changes us Spying! the big picture opens up and we begin to really live correctly for the first time. Looking back, it seems the gospel people preach and are hearing inside churches is not the real truth, but the ''secret'' bits are missing.

I have known about this when the Lord BLAZED John 11 v 24 to 27 across my eyes and the veil of ignorance lifted and i was absolutely stunned by what i saw revealed. [I cannot remember the exact date but i think about 3 yrs ago perhaps, was when i first received this message with Love.]
The forest of mis-conception from satan, that has grown up around the real truth of the Gospel was shattered for me as a stone thrown thru a window.
From that day on, it is amazing how many 'LIFE NOW', verses can be found. Jesus died to give His people the exact same LIFE FORCE His possesses not after we are dead but as we live and as we grow and come into an understanding of real MATURITY!
I am very very happy Spying, you have been able to understanding this great blessing and so let us move forewards into HIS GLORIOUS LIFE. amen.

[israelthebride]

PRAISE YOU,
LORD GOD YHSHWH,
MOST POWERFUL
and
ALMIGHTY GOD,
YOUR LUCY is HOME.
LOVE, RICOEL

[israelthebride]

GOD YHSHWH is LIFE of all HIS CREATION.
Once CREATED - always CREATED.
HIS GIFT to me is that
I will LIVE, CONCIOUSLY, with HIM - LIFE FOREVER.
Those that deny YHSHWH as GOD
will live, conciously, away from HIM - forever death.

death is not losing one's conciousness,
it is losing to BE with LIFE (GOD YHSHWH) FOREVER.

Those living death, conciously away from GOD YHSHWH,
will see HIS LIGHT and know HIS LOVE,
but
will not be able to reach HIM
causing the burning of frustration
and the gnashing of teeth.

We will have bodies without adamah/earth/dirt;
just water.
Completing us - BORN of HIS SPIRIT and HIS WATER.

LK 24:36 And as they thus spake,
Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them,
Peace be unto you.
LK 24:37 But they were terrified and affrighted,
and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
LK 24:38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled?
and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
LK 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself:
handle me, and see;
for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
LK 24:40 And when he had thus spoken,
he shewed them his hands and his feet.

LOVE, RICOEL

[Spying]

Possession Of Life!

Hi Lady Lucy,

This is a very good confession!:

Jesus died to give His people the exact same LIFE FORCE His possesses not after we are dead but as we live and as we grow and come into an understanding of real MATURITY!

And whomsoever possesses HIS LIFE FORCE, which is the spirit of ELOHIM, will live forever. They can be killed or martyred, but they will not grow old, get sick, and die. Spirit means life. More spirit means more life.

This is the most reasonable aspect of our faith. When the spirit within us is limited, we grow old and die. When the spirit within us is increased, we grow old, but we do not die. Instead of a fountain of youth, we have a fountain of life. Our flesh is renewed through the gift of the spirit given to us, and even then, I am not ignoring the possibility that possession of the fountain of life actually may mean that we also do possess a fountain of youth. The Torah tells us these secrets. I just do not know how to interpret it as of yet.

HaSatan convinced Eve that she could disobey ELOHIM and live forever. Now, HaSatan has convinced an apostate world that flesh cannot please ELOHIM and live. HaSatan has convinced an apostate world that the sole purpose of religion and faith is to save you after you get sick and die.

To be sure, there is an appointed day of death for all men in the flesh, but that day does not come in a physical sense for those who truly believe in Messiah Yahushua. This is why the first Assembly was given protection from death by poisoning:

Mark 16:18
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

The reason these signs are not evident among the apostate believers is because they do not possess the spirit of life.

Now, I am not telling anyone that I possess of the spirit of life. What I am telling everyone is that I, just like you and others, have seen these things in the Scriptures, and I want life!

Please Messiah Yahushua, give us the walk and the activity that results in life!

Sincerely, Ab

[Spying]

Spirit Cannot Die!

Hi Israelthebride,

I am confused, or allow me to put it thusly, I find your words confusing. Is not the spirit life? Spirit cannot die. Spirit cannot lose consciousness. All spirit belongs to Messiah Yahushua. This is why there is no life apart from him.

Human death is nothing more than the separation of HIS spirit from our flesh. The spirit is life. Without spirit, our flesh has no life force to hold our flesh together. Our bodies decay and decompose. Spirit cannot die. So, you must explain more to me.

Sincerely, Ab

P.S.

Acts 7:59
59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon ELOHIM, and saying, YAHWEH YAHUSHUA, receive my spirit.

[LucySmith]

I am one of them! How about you?

Hi Lady Lucy,

This is a very good confession!:And whomsoever possesses HIS LIFE FORCE, which is the spirit of ELOHIM, will live forever. They can be killed or martyred, but they will not grow old, get sick, and die. Spirit means life. More spirit means more life.

This is the most reasonable aspect of our faith. When the spirit within us is limited, we grow old and die. When the spirit within us is increased, we grow old, but we do not die. Instead of a fountain of youth, we have a fountain of life. Our flesh is renewed through the gift of the spirit given to us, and even then, I am not ignoring the possibility that possession of the fountain of life actually may mean that we also do possess a fountain of youth. The Torah tells us these secrets. I just do not know how to interpret it as of yet.

HaSatan convinced Eve that she could disobey ELOHIM and live forever. Now, HaSatan has convinced an apostate world that flesh cannot please ELOHIM and live. HaSatan has convinced an apostate world that the sole purpose of religion and faith is to save you after you get sick and die.

To be sure, there is an appointed day of death for all men in the flesh, but that day does not come in a physical sense for those who truly believe in Messiah Yahushua. This is why the first Assembly was given protection from death by poisoning:The reason these signs are not evident among the apostate believers is because they do not possess the spirit of life.

Now, I am not telling anyone that I possess of the spirit of life. What I am telling everyone is that I, just like you and others, have seen these things in the Scriptures, and I want life!

Please Messiah Yahushua, give us the walk and the activity that results in life!

Sincerely, Ab

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Thank you Spying for your understanding.
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Shall i show you a secret Plx.


IF you want to HIDE something, why not just plant it in plain sight,.
but, then tell a lie about it, so that no-one shall believe what they read. Angels of light, have planted ''a lie = another meaning'' so that when a person reads the words, they shall never believe them as they have been told they mean something else.
this is hidden in plain sight.

When Jesus came to give men SALVATION, it meant, they were now able to have the same life-power, that HE possesses IN THIS LIFE today!
why?
so that THE KINGDOM OF GOD, SHALL BE, HERE IN EARTH dwelling in men for the first time!

SALVATION = meaning is EVERY KNOWN FREEDOM, [that Jesus walked IN, ] FROM all the cursed bondages Adam gave to us all.

here is another clue.

look up Roms. 2.v.7. notice we are to SEEK these 4 elements.

Seek is to find them [letting nothing stand in our way till we have them as OURS] and immortal life means no death has ever taken place, for that life is now endless and no death can kill that life.
This same life is what Jesus means when He said '' I will build MY church and the gates of hell/grave shall not prevail against it''

IF we can cut off, men's ideas that have been formed and handed down as sacred cows of belief, in us, from their sects and divisions and just sit at the feet of Jesus as Mary did, we shall learn a new and living way to exist and walk the walk of Christ.
Let us NOT be programmed by what '' religious-they'' say in churchville, but what the secrets are, from the Holy Spirit, about abiding in the Kingdom of God.
There is a vast difference between the 2 teachings as one is based upon a lie and a series of pagan influences the other given only to those few who LOVE THE TRUTH = see John 14.v.21-24.

now!
ofcourse some will rebuff with '' i have known people who have believed they shall never die and yet have died''.
This is so true.
People have said this and died and are dead and a tombstone to prove it.
so! what is the difference? they believed and they died.!!!

If you look again at Phil 3.v.10-14, you will see that Apostle Paul STROVE with all manner of earnestness towards the PRIZE and the FINISHING LINE set before him.
HE KNEW, this wonderfull life was there called THE POWER OF HIS RESURRECTION and PAUL WANTED IT BAD.

What is this death all men have inside them but = the carnal mind and how we think just, = KILLS US,
and a person who suddenly 'sees the Gospel' in a new light , and how Jesus walked and lived HAS TO DEPART FROM THE CARNALITY OF THEIR FLESH and kill it off post-haste.

If any are sitting there, praying lovely prayers, and then go into the carnal flesh pot thinking of the 'old adam god' sitting on the throne of our mind = forget living forever under the order of Melchedizec, the Order of endless life. Just forget it.
OUR THINKING HAS TO BE THE THINKING OF CHRIST and NO other is acceptable.
Our corrupted mind has to be re-programmed into incorruptable thinking and the only way to do this is PRACTICE AT GIVING ALL OUR THINKING to Jesus, so that HE CAN TAKE IT ALL CAPTIVE AND DEAL WITH IT personally for us. Only then can we be fee to think IMMORTAL.
It is a huge burden to carry SO give the stinking thinking to Christ as our burden bearer see Math. 11.v.28-30 AND LET him LIFT FROM our BRAINS THE THINKING OF ADAM.
This situation has to be practiced and practiced, till each foul pattern of thinking fades and Christ now can fill our mind with HIS INCORRUPTABLE THOUGHTS.
WHAT HAPPENS THEN?
WELL, our thinking kills us, we know this!
but a 'Christ - like thinking' MAKES US CHANGE,
our DNA returns to normal,
our body chemistry returns to normal,
our body repairs itself as we are RE-NEWED and our eating changes and this puts back the right chemical balances inside us.
No more junk food to make a devish junky body full of flab! etc etc etc.
WE ARE BEGINNING TO USE OUR MINDS correctly and we are NO longer a slave to ''what the religious they tell us how to think, and do our thinking for us'' .
We are being MADE WHOLE and it is a process of immortality and the veil is rent in 2 and the understanding of the dimension where Jesus lives comes into our world in us. We begin TO '''''''BE'''''''' WEDDED to the Truth.

HIS WORLD BECOMES OUR WORLD and the horrid world of 'religous, stupid, dull and dumber adam' ceases to impact its cruel messages upon us FOR WE HAVE THE REVELATION of Abba Father, that we are HIS WORKMANSHIP and we are growing up, maturing to be made into the Hope of Glory only. amen

[LucySmith]

LIFE ABUNDANT, or, abiding in 'ME'

Today i was reading about the belief and life of a deceased woman and a 'famous' author of new age proportions, who 'had it all together' and convinced many she was 'right in her belief, that is well documented.
In her final days, she had her leg amputated from sugar diabetes, and was extremely depressed and sad.

I thought to myself, this lady had convinced herself she was on the right path, that she had the truth YET, depression and sadness ended her life.
Her personal mortal mind killed her and ruined her and she is defeated and destroyed! all because she considered herself 'right''.

Jesus tells His people ''I am the way, the truth and the Life''.
IF
we surrender up, our own lives, into the will of the creator of all things, how can we fail, but to be HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS in each and every way?

What are your beliefs? and are they killing you?
or
have you had the revelation to DIE TO SELF and pick up that cross daily,[ as Jesus did as our example] pull your head in, shut your mouth and have NO other opinion but the same opinion and belief as the SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD.
When i write this message, I give my favourite example from scriptures of Daniels' 3 friends and their firey furnace experience. The words they spoke, their maturity, their wills and the final outcome = a christian OVERCOMER, who will inherit all things.

Let us go back in time, to that day, and place ourselves there = faced with the same scenario and how we will deal, personally with this life experience?

THIS, is the standard of excellence EXPECTED from an overcomer.
All other standards is pointless, stupid and dumb!
Are we religious? By speaking out words to impress others of our spirituality, or
ARE WE WOVEN, [by obedience to His word] into His truthfull and faithfull walk?
These are real hard questions we have to answer, for down the line we shall have to account for our belief system, as the book is read out, on our lives.

what belief do you have?
does it lead to death and your destruction, so that the gates of hell did prevail against you, but you never realised it?
or
do you dwell INSIDE THE WORD OF GOD, so much so, you are MARRIED TO IT!
Not only do i write this messgae to y'all, i also write it to myself.

OVERCOMING is the natural, real, christ-like life....
the moral is this
OVERCOME OR BE OVERCOME.
the story ending of Linda G. was she was overcome.

[Spying]

I am one of them! How about you?

Hi Lady Lucy,

These are some very good words that you have written here and elsewhere on the Baal Gad Thread. I am astounded at the level of commitment to which Messiah has brought you, and I am encouraged and comforted by that commitment to you and to us through you.

I have been praying earnestly for comfort, and now I see that comfort comes mightily to me from brothers and sisters who also believe that they can overcome the enemies, sin and death.

Thank you, Messiah! And thank you, Lady Lucy!

Sincerely, Allen Brown

[LucySmith]

Hi Lady Lucy,

These are some very good words that you have written here and elsewhere on the Baal Gad Thread. I am astounded at the level of commitment to which Messiah has brought you, and I am encouraged and comforted by that commitment to you and to us through you.

I have been praying earnestly for comfort, and now I see that comfort comes mightily to me from brothers and sisters who also believe that they can overcome the enemies, sin and death.

Thank you, Messiah! And thank you, Lady Lucy!

Sincerely, Allen Brown

thanking you Allen,[Spying] for your sincere words.
yes, there are people who are committed only to following the words of great divine advice from Jesus Christ!
My beloved father's name was Allen and he was a father in every way, and because of this I was well able to relate to my Heavenely Father. Fatherhood is extremely important! May the Lord Jesus bless you in your fatherhood and grandfatherhood. amen. forever.
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When we walk with the Lord as Enoch did daily, He will show us many things we need to understand in the spiritual by natural means.
One is a film called the Matrix, [the first film not the other 2. only the first one.]
If u watch this film and Lord will open your eyes, to how everything and everyone is under a shroud of delusion, called deception = the whole world is deceived. They live inside their own created thinking world of the god of self, where they are important!
If you follow this film as a parable of revelation, you will see that Neo is awakened to his plight and begins to grow and understand how to overcome his situation.
He mets the enemy many times, in this process and runs away till one day HE NO LONGER RUNS, but stands there and the enemy bullets FAIL TO TOUCH HIM.
Spying and other readers, if you can view this film, it is a mighty parable of HOW GOD views His overcomers and how HE TRAINS THEM to defeat everything that seems real to them but infact is deception.
Ofcourse I AM not SUGGESTING that this film takes over from the bible, it is just a picture-parable, to show some of us, hard things to see a little easier.
When a saint is awakened from their sleep of death, they begin to rise up in power and might of the HOLY SPIRIT!
It is their training time where ''themselves'' have to die, to all posible self help and they learn to STAGGER NOT, [as brother Abraham knew see Roms 4 .v. 20] at anything, that seems impossible.

I would like you to look at Revelation 3 v.21.
CAN U SEE THE REWARD for the overcomers here?
If you look at that whole Chapt 3. on Laodicea-Age, you will see, it is a group of people WHO THINK, they are being taught by Jesus Christ BUT, He is outside the door and not inside teaching.
ANOTHER has taken His place.
{Let me sidetrack, and ask all who read, '' WHO IS YOUR TEACHER''?
and
WHAT ARE THEY TEACHING YOU?}
to continue,
This church-age-group was well satisfied, they were rich and needed nothing.
I have read, where the church of Laodicea is likened to the end time church RICH AND NEEDS NOTHING as this place is in gross deception.
However, there is a remedy!
Jesus Christ, OUR SAVIOUR AND REDEEMER, is standing at the door and knocking and giving advice to ''those with ears to hear''.
WHEN HE SAYS THIS, LET US MAKE VERY SURE................WE HEAR............
NOW, to these 'hearers' He says, v 18.
[ps. in bible numerics 18 = bondage] ''I counsel thee to buy of Me
GOLD
ANOINTED EYES WITH EYE SALVE TO SEE
WHITE RAIMENT to cover thy nakedness.''
now.
what IS THIS NAKEDNESS!
is it standing there in the nude shivering in the cold like some dummy!
or does it mean
TO COVER OUR MORTALITY, our own corruption, WITH HIS OWN IMMORTAL life.[ see Mt of Transfiguration Math 17 so see HOW JESUS REALLY WAS inside His earthern vessel]
What of this 'eye salve'?.

Let us look at this word SALVE.

If we re-arrange some letters here , i can make ANOTHER WORD = SLAVE,
ask this ''are WE ARE A SLAVE IN BONDAGE TO OUR OWN RELIGION,
our own church-denomination,
our own pagan ideals and think we are right, well we are still in the Matrix if we think so = a delusion is happening to us?''

Let us NO longer be a slave, a fool, a conned person! BUT LET US overcome all of this, by LOVING THE TRUTH.
Now for the gold.... that is tried IN THE FIRES.

HERE IS THE SECRET, for the other 2 ingredients to be added to us!
GOLD IS FAITH,
FAITH IS =TRUSTING ABBA FATHER totally WITH OUR LIVES AND NOT NEEDING THE ARM OF FLESH [any help from mere men] TO aid us IN ANY WAY.
FAITH IS THE SAME WALK AS CHRIST!
faith is = to rely upon,
cling to,
rest in, to cleve too, to depend upon,

SUMMED UP THIS WAY
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TO HAVE ABSOLUTE DEPENDANCE UPON AND RELIANCE IN THE WORD OF GOD, AND OF CHRIST.
Mth.8.v. 8-10,
Mth.15.v. 28.
Rom.10.v. 17
Heb, 11.v. 1-12]
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Let us begin to understand it!
Run with it in a new and living way not looking to the right nor left but just learning how to be faithfull and true, as we have come to realise ONLY JESUS CHRIST is OUR SHEPHERD and HE rules over us.
[the result is Ps 23 and Ps 91.]

IT IS ONLY THEN........................ONLY THEN
the temple [our body] is rent in 2 for us and we become ALIVE, the veil has been broken over us, as we walking in the Spirit of Life in Christ, [the power of God.] ONLY In that place THERE IS NOW NO CONDEMNATION!

to be a preacher, the truth has to be lived in for it to work correctly.
I do not write from head knowing, not to boast, God forbid this, but from many sufferings IN LIFE EXPERIENCES where i determined in my heart, to die, rather than disobey His word over my life.
I threw aside my pre-conceived self helps, my will, my stupid failed understanding, and begged Abba, Math 11.v.28-30. 'Take my burden plz, I dont know how to handle it.'' HE DID AND HE DOES PRAISE HIS LIVING NAME AND GLORY!
now, CAN y'all see something Plx?

When we were created originally, we were never programmed to handle 'good nor evil', we were all programmed only to handle the Tree of Life.
BUT!
We got rail-roaded, by the ''twister'' of God's word, into believing we could handle all good and all evil. THAT IS A LIE.
Now Jesus Christ, has shown us, the way back to our original creation POSITION and how to sit and dwell and live only underneath THE TREE OF LIFE. amen
Can u do it?
Can you just STOP and rethink, ''I WANT TO LIVE AS JESUS CHRIST DID, AND HOW HE DIED FOR ME SO I MAYBE HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS.''