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    If Jesus is a goat and not a lamb, and Messiah is actually a Prince who sets up the Abomination of desolation in the Sanctuary cleanse it, then there are some very interesting things revealing in this latter rain. Hi witnesses of the Latter Rain.

    Crossing over the river Jordan and being sealed by Yah is a one on one thing with the Most High. Even if one comes through the Gate, he is still required to enter in and become one with Yah and met Him Face to face, like Jacob turned Israel. One must strive and wrestle for the blessing.

    Welcome Thummim,

    Atonement AT-ONE-Ment with Yah

    Ishshah Yir'iyayh

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    In the context of Mi.6:5-9, Ps.40:6-10, Ps.51:16-17,and Hos.6:6 It needs to be understood that an atonement doesn't bring vindication from sin. It is more like giving (cash value) to YHWH for having offended him. One's vindication rests solely with YHWH, who is the offended party. Moses couldn't cross the Jordan river to see the promised land. Couldn't he have given an atonement for having offended YHWH and "crossed over"? Atonements do not vindicate anyone. It's like a fine. If you offend YHWH, you need to work it out with him. No one can do it for you. Why would YHWH need to shed innocent blood to satisfy him for a sin having been commited? If your eloheem requires the innocent to expiate the guilt of the transgressor, how is he different from the offenders who prey upon the innocent? To Christians, a human sacrifice is a logical extention of animal sacrifice. Only shed blood expiates sin to them. Yet the prestated verses show that YHWH has seen enough spilt blood to satisfy himself. Repentance is always more than the altar. Also it needs to be stated that an animal without blemish is not innocent. It is just more valuable. You don't give YHWH the imperfect. This is a very little bit of the reason that I don't except (jesus) as the messiah. ...Michael

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    Why don't I believe Jesus/Yeshua died for my sins?

    Why don't I believe Jesus/Yeshua died for my sins?
    By: Mordecai Alfandari
    First, because according to the Torah human beings were not acceptable sin-offerings. For him to be an acceptable sacrifice, he (the second person of the Christian triune deity) would have had to be "incarnated" into the body of a goat, calf or bull. He would have to have his throat cut by the priest; his blood sprinkled on the temple altar; and his kidneys, fat, and part of his liver burnt on that same altar etc., as designated by the Torah.

    Another reason I do not believe Jesus/Yeshua died for me is, that, according to Hebrew Scriptures, NO ONE can die for someone else's sins! Moses, the greatest Israelite that ever lived, offered himself to YHUH as a sin- offering after Israel had sinned by making a golden calf. He asked YHUH to take his life and forgive the sin of Israel. What was YHUH'S reply? "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot HIM from my book!" (Exodus 32:33). The sinner himself is guilty. NO ONE can die for his sins.

    Another reason I do not believe Jesus/Yeshua died for me: HE, HIMSELF, was guilty of death. The Torah says in
    Deuteronomy 18: 20-22
    20) The prophet who presumes to speak in My Name, which I have not ordered him to speak, and who speaks in the name of other elohim, even that prophet shall die.
    21) And if you say in your heart, How shall we know the word which YHUH has not spoken?
    22) When a prophet speaks in the name of YHUH, if the thing does not happen and does not come to pass, then this is a thing which YHUH has not spoken. The prophet has spoken proudly; you shall not be afraid of him.

    Jesus/Yeshua prophesied in
    Matthew 16:27-28
    27) For the son of man IS ABOUT TO COME in the glory of his father, with his angels; and THEN he shall reward each according to his works.
    28) Truly, I say to you, there are SOME STANDING HERE who WILL NOT TASTE OF DEATH until they see the son of man coming in his kingdom.

    Jesus/Yeshua prophesied his immediate, triumphant return over 1,900 years ago! The prophecy has NEVER come to pass! Jesus/Yeshua was a FALSE PROPHET and GUILTY OF DEATH, according to the Torah (Deuteronomy 18:20). He died for HIS OWN sins, NOT ours.

    According to Christian doctrine, Jesus/Yeshua was the Almighty Creator who became flesh. (John 1:1, 14). But, YHUH the Creator plainly states in Malachi 3:6 For I YHUH do not change...

    If an all mighty, all knowing, all powerful being CHANGES into a frail, puny man, that is a major and radical change. YHUH, the True Creator plainly states

    Deuteronomy 32:40 I live FOREVER!

    Isaiah 40:28 YHUH is EVERLASTING

    Daniel 4:34 ...and I blessed the Most High and I praised and honored Him WHO LIVES FOREVER; whose dominion is an everlasting dominion and His kingdom from generation to generation.

    Yet, according to the New Testament legend, the Christian god died, and was buried for over a day! (from Friday afternoon through Saturday night.)

    Christianity claims that its god died for you and me. YHUH, the ONLY TRUE DEITY, CREATOR of HEAVEN and EARTH, states that He dies NOT, HE LIVES FOREVER, and that each individual is responsible for, and must pay for his own sins. However, the way of repentance is open to all:

    Ezekiel 18:27-28
    "Again, when the wicked man turns away from his wickedness that he committed and DOES that which is LAWFUL and RIGHT, (GOOD WORKS!), HE SHALL SAVE HIS SOUL ALIVE!..... He shall SURELY LIVE, HE SHALL NOT DIE!!"

    Yes, dear reader, NO NEED for dying god-men! NO NEED for a god to be murdered on a pagan Roman cross!! The Way of YHUH is open to ALL! Come to YHUH, TODAY!

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