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Messiah Yahushua was the son of Joseph according to the flesh. The spirit of ELOHIM brought and planted the seed of Joseph in the womb of Mary who was also herself a descendant of David. So, Messiah was a man like you and me, but his conception did not occur naturally; hence, a virgin birth.
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...How does a woman who is property herself gain a throne to give to {Jesus}? No Hebrew throne can be passed along in this way. The line of Mary is corrupt in that Levites and Judaites share this line which is impossible. It must be one or the other. The seed of a male cannot leave its father's name. Only to his own tribe can he give seed. Judah can give seed to the tribe of Judah and Levi can give seed to the tribe of Levi. But one cannot bear the others child. A woman, if she is to pass along property to another, must marry within her own tribe {Nu. 36: 8}. Zerubabbel is of the seed that is forbidden David's throne. Zerubabbel is not called a king anywhere in the tanakh. Neither is his son. Wouldn't a virgin birth force {Jesus} to be a female? Where would the Y chromesome come from? As the product of a virgin birth, {Jesus} has xx chromesomes, the contribution of his mother which can alone determine his sex. He then, must be a "she". That's what biology teaches us.
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I would like for you to answer me this question: Does Messiah Yahushua sit upon the throne of David? David ruled over all Israel. Messiah does not rule over Judah and surely no one is so bold to suggest that Messiah does now rule over the Gentiles. Whom does Messiah rule over?
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...No, He has no earthly throne to sit upon by his own words. Israel had its own king after Solomon. The throne of David lost Israel as its subjects. Israel and Judah were constantly at war with each other, thus Isaiah's answer to Ahaz concerning Pekah and his alliance with Rezin, and Israel's determination to defete Judah. But the throne of David is the throne GD gave to David.
...Your messiah rules only over those who recognise his authority. That would be christians like you. Messiah comes when Judah is secure. That is what Jeremiah tells us in Jer. 23: 1 - 6. He must be born at this time to give everlasting seed to his throne. I doubt that {Jesus} fathered any children. His {natural bodily} seed was cast to the four winds forever, never to be regathered. His death took care of this. But in his time, a man will marry and give seed to his wife who will bring forth children to sit upon his throne.
1 Hear ye this, O house of Jacob, which are called by the name of Israel, and are come forth out of the waters of Judah, which swear by the name of YHWH, and make mention of the God of Israel, but not in truth, nor in righteousness. Isa. 48: 1
...Judah gives birth to his brethren Israel. Judah must do this because no one knows where Israel's children are when Judah returns to Jerusalem. Judah has permission to father his own brethren. Judah can be divided up into Israel by drawing lines on a map of Israel. But first the people need to inherit the land of Israel which the tanakh says they will. But Israel shall remain a single people having a single king over them according to Ezekiel {Eze. 37: 22}. The messiah comes to the JEWish people {through a natural birth process} to reign in Israel over all who recognise his authority. His throne is an earthly throne that is found in Jerusalem.
....Michael
Messiah Yahushua was the son of Joseph according to the flesh. The spirit of ELOHIM brought and planted the seed of Joseph in the womb of Mary who was also herself a descendant of David. So, Messiah was a man like you and me, but his conception did not occur naturally; hence, a virgin birth.
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...How does a woman who is property herself gain a throne to give to {Jesus}? No Hebrew throne can be passed along in this way. The line of Mary is corrupt in that Levites and Judaites share this line which is impossible. It must be one or the other. The seed of a male cannot leave its father's name. Only to his own tribe can he give seed. Judah can give seed to the tribe of Judah and Levi can give seed to the tribe of Levi. But one cannot bear the others child. A woman, if she is to pass along property to another, must marry within her own tribe {Nu. 36: 8}. Zerubabbel is of the seed that is forbidden David's throne. Zerubabbel is not called a king anywhere in the tanakh. Neither is his son. Wouldn't a virgin birth force {Jesus} to be a female? Where would the Y chromesome come from? As the product of a virgin birth, {Jesus} has xx chromesomes, the contribution of his mother which can alone determine his sex. He then, must be a "she". That's what biology teaches us.
...Spying posts;
I would like for you to answer me this question: Does Messiah Yahushua sit upon the throne of David? David ruled over all Israel. Messiah does not rule over Judah and surely no one is so bold to suggest that Messiah does now rule over the Gentiles. Whom does Messiah rule over?
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...No, He has no earthly throne to sit upon by his own words. Israel had its own king after Solomon. The throne of David lost Israel as its subjects. Israel and Judah were constantly at war with each other, thus Isaiah's answer to Ahaz concerning Pekah and his alliance with Rezin, and Israel's determination to defete Judah. But the throne of David is the throne GD gave to David.
...Your messiah rules only over those who recognise his authority. That would be christians like you. Messiah comes when Judah is secure. That is what Jeremiah tells us in Jer. 23: 1 - 6. He must be born at this time to give everlasting seed to his throne. I doubt that {Jesus} fathered any children. His {natural bodily} seed was cast to the four winds forever, never to be regathered. His death took care of this. But in his time, a man will marry and give seed to his wife who will bring forth children to sit upon his throne.
1 Hear ye this, O house of Jacob, which are called by the name of Israel, and are come forth out of the waters of Judah, which swear by the name of YHWH, and make mention of the God of Israel, but not in truth, nor in righteousness. Isa. 48: 1
...Judah gives birth to his brethren Israel. Judah must do this because no one knows where Israel's children are when Judah returns to Jerusalem. Judah has permission to father his own brethren. Judah can be divided up into Israel by drawing lines on a map of Israel. But first the people need to inherit the land of Israel which the tanakh says they will. But Israel shall remain a single people having a single king over them according to Ezekiel {Eze. 37: 22}. The messiah comes to the JEWish people {through a natural birth process} to reign in Israel over all who recognise his authority. His throne is an earthly throne that is found in Jerusalem.
....Michael
Your frustration is evident. No doubt, you have been studying too much Gemara.
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