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    YH'SHWH'S LAW

    ROM 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

    Don’t you know how the LAW has authority over one as long as one is alive.
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    ROM 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

    A woman is restricted by the LAW to her husband as long as he lives. When he is dead, she is released of those restrictions.
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    ROM 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

    If she is married to another man while her husband is still alive, she will be called an adulteress; but, if her husband is dead, she is free from the restriction of the LAW. She is not an adulteress, though she is married to another man.
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    ROM 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

    Why, my FAMILY, you who have become dead to the LAW by BEING the BODY of CHRIST; should you be married to another, but to HIM WHO is RAISED from the dead, that we should produce FRUIT of GOD?
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    ROM 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

    Because when we were carnal, the actions of sin,
    by the LAW, were working through our physical members producing fruit of death.
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    ROM 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

    But now we have been released from the LAW, not existing in death,
    and we should serve in a new LIFE of HIS SPIRIT,
    and not in carnal/death following the LAW.
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    ROM 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

    So, should we say that the LAW is sin? GOD forbid.
    I would not know what sin is if the LAW did not say it is sin.
    I would not know lust, except by the fact that the LAW says, “Thou shall not covet.”
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    ROM 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

    But sin, set in motion by the COMMANDMENT, created in me all sorts of desires/lusts.
    Because without the LAW, I did not know that it was sin.
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    ROM 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

    I was alive without the LAW: but when the COMMANDMENT came,
    I saw sin in me and I had to die.
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    ROM 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

    The COMMANDMENT that was to give me LIFE, I found to be my death.
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    ROM 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

    For sin, set in motion by the COMMANDMENT, fooled me, and was killing me.
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    ROM 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

    Why, the LAW is HOLY and the COMMANDMENT HOLY, JUST and GOOD.
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    ROM 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

    Does this mean that that which is good is death to me? GOD forbid.
    But for me to see sin, that was death to me,
    that “sin” had to be shown “really sinful” to me by the COMMANDMENT.
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    ROM 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

    Because we know that the LAW is SPIRITUAL, but I am carnal, a slave to sin.
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    ROM 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

    Because I do the things I shouldn’t, I do not do what I should, but what I hate - I do.
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    ROM 7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

    So if I know that I do that which I shouldn’t, I am agreeing with the LAW that the LAW is GOOD.
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    ROM 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

    Now, I realize that it is sin in me that drives me to do it.
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    ROM 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

    Because I know that in me (carnal self), there is nothing that is good.
    I know I have choice/a will, but I cannot choose/will something that is not in carnal me.
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    ROM 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

    Because the good that I want to do - I don’t do it; but the evil that I don’t want to do – I do.
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    ROM 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

    Now, if I am doing what I don’t want to do, I know that it is the sin in me.
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    ROM 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

    I find, then, a LAW, that when I do good, I realize that there is evil in me.
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    ROM 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

    Because I delight in the LAW of GOD that is after the inward human.
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    ROM 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

    (inward man)
    I see another law in my members warring against the law of my mind, and making me a slave to the law of sin, in my members.

    ROM 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

    I am evil! Who will deliver me from this body of death?
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    ROM 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

    I thank GOD, JESUS CHRIST, our LORD.
    I conform my mind, myself, to serve the LAW of GOD,
    even though my carnal self follows the law of sin.
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    ROM 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    So, there is no condemnation to them who are in CHRIST JESUS,
    who do not follow the carnal self, but follow HIS SPIRIT.
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    ROM 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

    Because the LAW of the SPIRIT of LIFE in CHRIST JESUS
    has made me free from the law of sin and death.
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    ROM 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

    Because what the LAW could not do, in my weakness of carnal self,
    GOD, in HIS SON, who was in the likeness of carnal sin,
    condemned sin in the carnal self.
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    ROM 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    That the RIGHTEOUSNESS of the LAW is fulfilled in US who follow HIS SPIRIT and not our carnal self.
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    ROM 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

    Because they that follow carnal self do carnal things, but they that follow HIS SPIRIT do things of HIS SPIRIT.
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    ROM 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

    Because to be carnal minded is death, but to BE SPIRITUALLY MINDED is LIFE and PEACE.
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    ROM 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

    Because the carnal mind is an enemy of GOD, because it does not submit to the LAW of GOD, neither can it.
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    ROM 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

    So, they that are carnal minded cannot please GOD.
    The BODY of MESSIAH Ministry

    I did not CREATE YOU for a certain time.
    I CREATED YOU for ETERNITY.
    I CREATED YOU for ME.
    That is why I SAVED YOU.
    For ME.

    YOUR HUSBAND,
    YHSHWH

  • #2
    To PLEASE GOD, or NOT to Please Him is the question

    So, they that are carnal minded cannot please GOD.
    yes, because this mind is filled up with some type of slavery to some type of religion, and is controlled by the 'father-of-lies''.

    Churchianity is a religion, that fails '' the power tests''.
    They 'come in words' but never in POWER. THE CARNAL MIND,= eating from the tree of good and evil cannot handle Power. IT IS ABUSED, let us just look around, and understand all leaders lie and ABUSE their power, from the top to the grass-roots these power-happy people make life miserable for millions of people.

    The person with the mind, will and emotions that are willingly surrendered up to the Creator, make headway, for 'they' do not rule over themselves, but another is their Shepherd.... Ps 23.
    It is very hard to give up our will~! not many can do this and grow up into the maturity of Christ. There is much suffering at giving up our will, as it looks so good on paper but then comes the time to exercise our spiritual muscles and then the suffering begins, as our adamic nature screams and doubts and murmurs just waiting to break out again, so he can rule over us and cause our death ...

    THE MURDERER IS WITHIN, DO YOU STUDY your own murderer intently as he traitors us into the grave? oh Yes~! 2 people are staring at us in the mirror each morning, that man of sin, and that other man who only wants to be left in peace and happiness.....neither are winners.. both are condemned to return to dust..... why?.... they were unable TO GET RID OF their disastrous human thinking patterns.

    Jesus NEVER let this happen to Him and He alone has made this new way possible,.We are to copy His attitude despite our circumstances, We have to suffer the contradiction and OVERCOME in His strength to be well pleasing.

    Putting ON the mind of Christ is like GETTING DRESSED EACH MORNING, to go out to work. PUTTING ON this holy mind = IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY, and this takes much practice, but Grace works for us, amen.

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    • #3
      we have to ACCEPT who we all are inside.....

      accept the lying killer within.... then... YIELD this foul personal beast UP to the full lordship of our creator. DONT GIVE this snake A CHANCE~!

      I realized, Abba Father cannot use us until we accept ourselves and our condition that will not bring us into life, only into death.
      We have to be 'called out', from a form of religion, that is killing us all because men have 'touched it' and defiled it with human reasonings.

      There is A TRUE SALVATION..

      This is the salvation of the soul spoken of in Isaiah 61:10:



      ''I will rejoice greatly in Yahweh,

      My soul will exult in my God;

      For He has clothed me with garments of salvation,

      He has wrapped me with a robe of righteousness,

      As a bridegroom decks himself with a garland,

      And as a bride adorns herself with her jewels.''
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      it is strange, but our old man and church go together.
      it is strange, but our old man and the world's religions, go together.
      They are all bedfellows and compatable.

      The true purpose of our soul, is to be a HELP-MEET to our Spirit.

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      • #4
        This Speaks To Me!

        Hi Lady Lucy,

        Oh, I like this!:
        The true purpose of our soul, is to be a HELP-MEET to our Spirit.
        Sincerely, Ab
        The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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        • #5
          I LOVE YOU, LUCY!!!

          Please read:
          "My Worst Enemy" at

          http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=301

          You'll find that we agree in many ways.
          BLESS YOU,
          RICOEL
          The BODY of MESSIAH Ministry

          I did not CREATE YOU for a certain time.
          I CREATED YOU for ETERNITY.
          I CREATED YOU for ME.
          That is why I SAVED YOU.
          For ME.

          YOUR HUSBAND,
          YHSHWH

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          • #6
            i have to post this again, for it is the truth

            This Speaks To Me! This Speaks To Me!

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            Hi Lady Lucy,

            Oh, I like this!:Quote:
            The true purpose of our soul, is to be a HELP-MEET to our Spirit.
            Sincerely, Ab

            yes, I loved it too.

            Our 'spirit' is so alone, i feel most times, as our AGRESSIVE soul and body WARS with our holy friend, the Spirit within.
            The Kingdom of Heaven is within, we are told, SO........ It has to be brought foreword and in first place, so that the man of sin [ADAMIC NATURE OF THE BEAST]within snuffs it.
            Jesus was able to do this BECAUSE, He allowed His Spirit to RULE Him , so that His soul was His help-meet [ADDED TO HIS STATUE BY NOT WARRING] and His body BECAME BLAMELESS.

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            • #7
              cont.. Ricoel AINT this the truth.

              from your post Ricoel.My Worst EnemyMy Worst Enemy

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              My Worst Enemy

              The one who keeps me from thinking about YH’SHWH.

              The one that keeps me from praying.

              The one that keeps me from reading YH’SHWH’s WORD.

              The one that builds me up too much.

              The one that thinks that I should do more for YH’SHWH.

              The one who knows my sin.

              The one who takes me into sin.

              The one that thinks that I am of no use.

              The one whose mind is evil.

              The one that is always on my mind.

              The one that wants all my attention.

              The one that is never satisfied.

              The one that fantasizes about things being different.

              The one I think needs so much love.

              The one I forgive so easily.

              The one YH’SHWH tells me to deny.

              The one I see in the mirror.

              Me
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              Thank you, my GOD YH’SHWH, for SAVING me from my enemy; me.

              Thank you for YOUR LIFE – YOUR SPIRIT in me.

              “…it is not me who lives, but HE WHO LIVES in me…”


              LOVE, RICOEL

              I was CREATED for YH'SHWH, my GOD; my CREATOR.

              yep... thats the killer. the real killer.

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