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    In the two thousand years since the birth of Jesus of Nazareth, the world of Christendom has seen incredible changes, including a split with the Eastern Orthodox Church and a Protestant Reformation, accompanied by a rejection of much core ideology. Yet throughout it all, the collection of scripture called the New Testament has remained unchanged and largely unquestioned, even though it was assembled by the same church leaders whose beliefs many now refute. It has always amazed me that as a former Protestant I always accepted the "Catholic's Bible".

    Answer for yourself: Do you not see the folly of the collection of these documents by those who are understood by most today to have been blatant idolaters?

    To challenge the veracity of the canonical New Testament is, at best, (for a Christian anyway)an uncomfortable position; such questions strike at the very heart of most Christians' faith. Nevertheless, understand that these sacred writings have come to us only after decades of oral traditions and centuries of scribal rewrites, additions, deletions, and fictional creationism much according to the beliefs of select denominations in the early days of Christianity.

    When reading the New Testament, one is poignantly reminded of how translation, particularly of archaic language, is subject to personal interpretation. It is therefore vitally important that we get as close to the original source as possible. It is therefore vitally important that we get as close to the original source as possible. The oldest surviving complete text of the New Testament is the Codex Sinaiticus, dating back to the middle of the fourth century. The oldest fragments, the Bodmer and Beatty Papyri and Papyrus 52, date back to the second century but only contain bits of the Gospel of John. All of these texts are Greek.


    The four canonical gospels did not begin their lives as the gospels of "Matthew," "Mark," "Luke" and "John." Different groups of early Christians maintained their own oral traditions of Jesus wisdom, as writing was a specialized skill and not every fellowship enjoyed the services of a scribe. When written accounts of Jesus's teachings began to circulate (i.e., the theoretical "sayings" gospelQ and the Semeia or Signs source), the independent groups would supplement them with their own traditions about this man/gawd, each believing their own versions to be "the Gospel." Eventually, as these expanded writings spread through other communities, some versions were viewed as having more authority than others. It was not until the pronouncement of Bishop Irenوus (185 C.E.) that Christians began to accept only the four familiar gospels as authoritative, and to refer to them by their modern titles. You may laugh but 4 Gospels were chosen because there were only four winds.

    The rest of the canon was much slower to develop. For the next two centuries, the four gospels would be coupled with a myriad of different letters, epistles, stories and apocalypses, according to what a particular congregation judged as relevant to their understanding of Yeshua and his message. Catholicism was only one of the dozens of denominations within the early church—Gnosticism was prevalent throughout Egypt, Montanism in Asia Minor, Marconianism in Syria.

    Eventually, the Catholic church was adopted as the state religion of the Roman Empire, and all other systems of belief were branded as heresies.

    The West won!

    Following the Epistle of Athanasius in 367 C.E., the Catholic Church finally reached agreement upon which writings were truly authentic and "inspired by God," thus forming the canonical New Testament.

    { AD 367:
    The earliest extant list of the books of the NT, in exactly the number and order in which we presently have them, is written by Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, in his Easter letter of 367.}

    That’s right folks the NT is and was compiled by none other than the Roman Catholic Church!

    Have you read any good books lately ?
    Yirm. 10:10

    "But YHWH is truly Elohim. He is the living Elohim and the everlasting Sovereign........."

  • #2
    ye i have read some pretty nice stuff

    The didache
    and Hermas
    i wish i could get the apocalypse of peter to test it.

    I hold the didache in high regard as scripture- so ummm, i guess I have my own piece to the canon- and im sure that many would call me a heretic.
    Thing is i find nothing at all wrong with the didache and im testing all the others i come across.

    im intrested in all the canons that were held pre-catholocism
    so thats why i have studied some books
    ONE TORAH [MEMRA(audible) and KHOCHMA(written)], ONE MASORAH.

    OBEY YE THE SOFRIM (HAKHAMIM) and the PERUSHIM for they are the only ones given right to and power to interpret scripture. DO AS THEY TELL YOU but do not do as the Colored-Rabbis and colored pharisees tell you, for they are Painted!(Matt 23:1-3)


    • #3

      All I could find here was "the lost books of the bible and the forgotten books of eden" and the book you are looking for is not there. wish I could help- sorry.

      Say by the way you sort of sound like VEX to me, or am I mistaken????.
      Yirm. 10:10

      "But YHWH is truly Elohim. He is the living Elohim and the everlasting Sovereign........."


      • #4


        I know what you are trying to get across,
        but my GOD YH'SHWH, WHO is ALMIGHTY and in CONTROL
        would not allow any man to ruin HIS WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation).

        As HE says to submit ourselves to those that HE puts in charge, so it is.

        Now, learn YH'SHWH'S WORD/LAW as HE meant for it to be learned.

        Nov 2001

        then, please read our intro to our web site (June1997):


        The BODY of MESSIAH Ministry

        I did not CREATE YOU for a certain time.
        I CREATED YOU for ME.
        That is why I SAVED YOU.
        For ME.



        • #5
          Ma'am I have to disagree.

          The Torah is five books of the OT.

          The NT was written and cononized by the Mithric Priests of the catholic church.

          This doesn’t brother you?

          You don’t think that something is wrong here?

          Faith is ok, but look at the facts,hard tangible facts, Ma'am.

          These are the same guys that give us Sunday worship, idols to bow and pray to ,and all the pagan holeydays that you could ever stand in this life. They took Mithras the SUN and made him your Christ and lord. If you took the paganism out of christianity,there would be NOTHING left. NOTHING!
          Yirm. 10:10

          "But YHWH is truly Elohim. He is the living Elohim and the everlasting Sovereign........."


          • #6
            I fail to see how "The Church" can collect a few letters and declare them (they call it discover) them "holy"? It truly escapes me knowing the history of the church as I do. To me the NT is fraught with Roman-Greco philosophy and pagan ideals. It was obviously put together for it's favortism in support of the trinity. How can a bunch of greedy, murderous, politically corrupt men put together the NT and POOF!!!! It's suddenly God's word?

            Think about it!
            Yirm. 10:10

            "But YHWH is truly Elohim. He is the living Elohim and the everlasting Sovereign........."