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Dear RICOEL,
You say:
"This "world" says that anyone that is not a jew is a gentile.
I believe this to be a lie."
As I understand it Scripture teaches: there is the ancient still existing Israel and there are the nations, the peoples of the world, the tribes etc., and these are called gentiles or as Paul puts it the Greek(Romans 1:16,17). The Body of Christ consists first of Jews(ancient Israel) that believe in Christ Jesus, and coming second, Gentile people that believe in Christ Jesus. A gentile-believer does not become a Jew. You even asserts that a Jew who does not believe in Jesus is a 'gentile'. I am sorry but to me you are mixing these things in a very confusing way. I am a gentile and I, by the grace of God, can be proud about that. The Lord does not hate gentile-people or their customs, habits or way of life, He just wants to sanctify them through the righteousness of Christ Jesus. But everything that is good, truthfull, beautifull and just He preserves in Christ Jesus.
Questioner
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My reply:
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WE are SAVED by YH’SHWH’S BLOOD
This is what I believe.
No one in this world can prove that their bloodline is directly from ABRAHAM. No one.
Many jews claim that they are descendants of ABRAHAM. This is a lie. No one can make that claim on their own with their own blood.
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ROM 11:16 For if the FIRSTFRUIT be HOLY, the lump is also HOLY: and if the ROOT be HOLY, so are the BRANCHES.
ROM 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
ROM 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
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(The only BRANCHES broken off were the People of the House of ISRAEL and the House of JUDAH.
JER 11:16 The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult HE hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.
JER 11:17 For the LORD of hosts, that planted thee, hath pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of the House of Israel and of the House of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal.)
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ROM 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
ROM 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
ROM 11:21 For if GOD spared not the natural branches, take heed lest HE also spare not thee.
ROM 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of GOD: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
ROM 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for GOD is able to graff them in again.
ROM 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
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ZECH 4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
ZECH 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
ZECH 4:13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
ZECH 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the LORD of the whole earth.
REV 11:3 And I will give power unto MY Two Witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
REV 11:4 These are the Two Olive Trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the GOD of the earth.
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ROM 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to ISRAEL, until the fullness (all) of the Gentiles be come in.
ROM 11:26 (And) so all of ISRAEL shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of ZION the DELIVERER, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
ROM 11:27 For this is MY COVENANT unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
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In submission to YH’SHWH’S SALVATION, we acknowledge HIS COVENANT and our sin is taken away.
Now,
in submission to YH’SHWH’S GIFT of SALVATION, through HIMSELF as MESSIAH (through HIS BLOOD)
And,
In submission to HIS SPIRIT WHO LIVES HIS WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation) through US, HIS BODY
WE, HIS PEOPLE, become heirs to ABRAHAM and to all that is PROMISED to HIM.
and
our belief, in YH’SHWH’S SALVATION, is accounted to US as RIGHTEOUSNESS.
_______
JN 6:28 Then said they unto HIM, What shall we do, that we might work the works of GOD?
JN 6:29 YH’SHWH answered and said unto them,
“This is the work of GOD,
that ye believe on HIM whom HE hath sent.”
_______
BIBLICALLY, there is ISRAEL and there are gentiles.
Jews are not ISRAEL. ISRAEL, as a whole (the 12 Tribes), is never called jewish. Jews are of the Tribe of JUDAH, of the country Judah, or followers of Judaism.
Gentiles are not ISRAEL.
ISRAEL is our GOD YH’SHWH’S PEOPLE.
All who submit to HIS SALVATION, through HIS BLOOD as MESSIAH, are HIS PEOPLE.
HIS PEOPLE are ISRAEL.
ROM 11:27 For this is MY COVENANT unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
I submit to MY GOD YH’SHWH’S COVENANT.
This is what I believe.
_______
Everyone has the option provided for them, by our LORD GOD, YH’SHWH, to be HIS PEOPLE.
Do not give up your BIRTHRIGHT for the things that you want.
___
May 17th.
HIS ASCENSION AND OUR UNION
And it came to pass, while He blessed them, He was parted from them, and carried up into heaven." Luke 24:51
We have no corresponding experience to the events in Our Lord's life after the Transfiguration. From then onwards Our Lord's life' was altogether vicarious. Up to the time of the Transfiguration He had exhibited the normal perfect life of a man; from the Transfiguration onwards - Gethsemane, the Cross, the Resurrection - everything is unfamiliar to us.
His Cross is the door by which every member of the human race can enter into the life of God; by His Resurrection He has the right to give eternal life to any man, and by His Ascension Our Lord enters heaven and keeps the door open for humanity. On the Mount of Ascension the Transfiguration is completed. If Jesus had gone to heaven from the Mount of Transfiguration, He would have gone alone; He would have been nothing more to us than a glorious Figure. But He turned His back on the glory, and came down from the Mount to identify Himself with fallen humanity.
The Ascension is the consummation of the Transfiguration. Our Lord does now go back into His primal glory; but He does not go back simply as Son of God; He goes back to God as Son of Man as well as Son of God. There is now freedom of access for anyone straight to the very throne of God by the Ascension of the Son of Man. As Son of Man Jesus Christ deliberately limited omnipotence, omnipresence and omniscience in Himself. Now they are His in absolute full power.
As Son of Man, Jesus Christ has all power at the throne of God. He is King of kings and Lord of lords from the day of His Ascension until now.
OSWALD CHAMBERS
_______
LOVE,
RICOEL
You say:
"This "world" says that anyone that is not a jew is a gentile.
I believe this to be a lie."
As I understand it Scripture teaches: there is the ancient still existing Israel and there are the nations, the peoples of the world, the tribes etc., and these are called gentiles or as Paul puts it the Greek(Romans 1:16,17). The Body of Christ consists first of Jews(ancient Israel) that believe in Christ Jesus, and coming second, Gentile people that believe in Christ Jesus. A gentile-believer does not become a Jew. You even asserts that a Jew who does not believe in Jesus is a 'gentile'. I am sorry but to me you are mixing these things in a very confusing way. I am a gentile and I, by the grace of God, can be proud about that. The Lord does not hate gentile-people or their customs, habits or way of life, He just wants to sanctify them through the righteousness of Christ Jesus. But everything that is good, truthfull, beautifull and just He preserves in Christ Jesus.
Questioner
_______
My reply:
___
WE are SAVED by YH’SHWH’S BLOOD
This is what I believe.
No one in this world can prove that their bloodline is directly from ABRAHAM. No one.
Many jews claim that they are descendants of ABRAHAM. This is a lie. No one can make that claim on their own with their own blood.
_______
ROM 11:16 For if the FIRSTFRUIT be HOLY, the lump is also HOLY: and if the ROOT be HOLY, so are the BRANCHES.
ROM 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
ROM 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
___
(The only BRANCHES broken off were the People of the House of ISRAEL and the House of JUDAH.
JER 11:16 The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult HE hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.
JER 11:17 For the LORD of hosts, that planted thee, hath pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of the House of Israel and of the House of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal.)
___
ROM 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
ROM 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
ROM 11:21 For if GOD spared not the natural branches, take heed lest HE also spare not thee.
ROM 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of GOD: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
ROM 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for GOD is able to graff them in again.
ROM 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
___
ZECH 4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
ZECH 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
ZECH 4:13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
ZECH 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the LORD of the whole earth.
REV 11:3 And I will give power unto MY Two Witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
REV 11:4 These are the Two Olive Trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the GOD of the earth.
___
ROM 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to ISRAEL, until the fullness (all) of the Gentiles be come in.
ROM 11:26 (And) so all of ISRAEL shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of ZION the DELIVERER, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
ROM 11:27 For this is MY COVENANT unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
_______
In submission to YH’SHWH’S SALVATION, we acknowledge HIS COVENANT and our sin is taken away.
Now,
in submission to YH’SHWH’S GIFT of SALVATION, through HIMSELF as MESSIAH (through HIS BLOOD)
And,
In submission to HIS SPIRIT WHO LIVES HIS WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation) through US, HIS BODY
WE, HIS PEOPLE, become heirs to ABRAHAM and to all that is PROMISED to HIM.
and
our belief, in YH’SHWH’S SALVATION, is accounted to US as RIGHTEOUSNESS.
_______
JN 6:28 Then said they unto HIM, What shall we do, that we might work the works of GOD?
JN 6:29 YH’SHWH answered and said unto them,
“This is the work of GOD,
that ye believe on HIM whom HE hath sent.”
_______
BIBLICALLY, there is ISRAEL and there are gentiles.
Jews are not ISRAEL. ISRAEL, as a whole (the 12 Tribes), is never called jewish. Jews are of the Tribe of JUDAH, of the country Judah, or followers of Judaism.
Gentiles are not ISRAEL.
ISRAEL is our GOD YH’SHWH’S PEOPLE.
All who submit to HIS SALVATION, through HIS BLOOD as MESSIAH, are HIS PEOPLE.
HIS PEOPLE are ISRAEL.
ROM 11:27 For this is MY COVENANT unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
I submit to MY GOD YH’SHWH’S COVENANT.
This is what I believe.
_______
Everyone has the option provided for them, by our LORD GOD, YH’SHWH, to be HIS PEOPLE.
Do not give up your BIRTHRIGHT for the things that you want.
___
May 17th.
HIS ASCENSION AND OUR UNION
And it came to pass, while He blessed them, He was parted from them, and carried up into heaven." Luke 24:51
We have no corresponding experience to the events in Our Lord's life after the Transfiguration. From then onwards Our Lord's life' was altogether vicarious. Up to the time of the Transfiguration He had exhibited the normal perfect life of a man; from the Transfiguration onwards - Gethsemane, the Cross, the Resurrection - everything is unfamiliar to us.
His Cross is the door by which every member of the human race can enter into the life of God; by His Resurrection He has the right to give eternal life to any man, and by His Ascension Our Lord enters heaven and keeps the door open for humanity. On the Mount of Ascension the Transfiguration is completed. If Jesus had gone to heaven from the Mount of Transfiguration, He would have gone alone; He would have been nothing more to us than a glorious Figure. But He turned His back on the glory, and came down from the Mount to identify Himself with fallen humanity.
The Ascension is the consummation of the Transfiguration. Our Lord does now go back into His primal glory; but He does not go back simply as Son of God; He goes back to God as Son of Man as well as Son of God. There is now freedom of access for anyone straight to the very throne of God by the Ascension of the Son of Man. As Son of Man Jesus Christ deliberately limited omnipotence, omnipresence and omniscience in Himself. Now they are His in absolute full power.
As Son of Man, Jesus Christ has all power at the throne of God. He is King of kings and Lord of lords from the day of His Ascension until now.
OSWALD CHAMBERS
_______
LOVE,
RICOEL