A public spectacle

[Matthew23]

I was watching the news just a few minutes ago and I saw some Iraquis dragging the "head" of Saddam through the streets of Baghdad. At that moment I happened to have my bible open to the following...

Colossians 2:13-17
13When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. 15And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.
16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

What does this mean to you?

matt

[Matthew23]

What is the "written code" that Paul speaks of? Is it the Torah? Did Yeshua nail the Torah to the cross? What, or who, are the "powers and authorities"?

matt

[israelthebride]

the reality, however, is found in Christ

My REALITY is in MESSIAH.

YH'SHWH'S WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation) is not my way to SALVATION.

HIS death, on the crossed tree, is my SALVATION. HE has taken what "convinces" me (HIS LAW), that I am sinful, and nailed it to the crossed tree.

I can only meet HIM at the crossed tree with HIS LAW nailed to it.

Now, through HIS death (my SALVATION), HIS SPIRIT (HOLY) can LIVE in ME (sin) and LIVE HIS WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation) through ME. I (myself, without HIS SPIRIT) do not live HIS WORD because I can't.
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Who are the powers?

15And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.
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ROM 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

ROM 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

EPH 3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

EPH 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

COL 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

COL 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

TIT 3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

HEB 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

1PET 3:22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

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16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.

17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.


So, now, BEING SAVED,
no one can judge me on how I live because it HE WHO LIVES in ME that LIVES in HIS SABBATHS, HIS FESTIVALS, and HIS CELEBRATIONS which are all in HIS WORD/LAW.

These things are not my SALVATION. These things are how I live, now that I AM SAVED and it is HE WHO LIVES through ME.

MY REALITY is in MESSIAH.

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1PET 3:13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?

1PET 3:14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;

1PET 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

1PET 3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.

1PET 3:17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.

1PET 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

1PET 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

1PET 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

1PET 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

1PET 3:22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
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YH'SHWH lived in flesh

1PET 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

Now, that HE LIVES in my flesh, I submit to HIM (HIS SPIRIT)

1PET 4:2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.

1PET 4:3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:

1PET 4:4 Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:

1PET 4:5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.

1PET 4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

1PET 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
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HE walked in HIS WORD. HE is the LIVING WORD.

WE must walk as HE did.

LOVE,

RICOEL

[Matthew23]

Re: the reality, however, is found in Christ

Ricoel, my replies are in blue...

Originally posted by israelthebride
My REALITY is in MESSIAH.
YH'SHWH'S WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation) is not my way to SALVATION.
HIS death, on the crossed tree, is my SALVATION. HE has taken what "convinces" me (HIS LAW), that I am sinful, and nailed it to the crossed tree. How is it that this "written code" has been "canceled"?

I can only meet HIM at the crossed tree with HIS LAW nailed to it.
Now, through HIS death (my SALVATION), HIS SPIRIT (HOLY) can LIVE in ME (sin) and LIVE HIS WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation) through ME. I (myself, without HIS SPIRIT) do not live HIS WORD because I can't. Will you observe the Passover/Feast of Unleavened Bread this week? Will you do it "literally" or "spiritually"?
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Who are the powers?
15And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.
ROM 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
ROM 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
EPH 3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
EPH 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
COL 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
COL 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
TIT 3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,
HEB 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
1PET 3:22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
Excellent, dear friend!
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16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

So, now, BEING SAVED,
no one can judge me on how I live because it HE WHO LIVES in ME that LIVES in HIS SABBATHS, HIS FESTIVALS, and HIS CELEBRATIONS which are all in HIS WORD/LAW.

These things are not my SALVATION. These things are how I live, now that I AM SAVED and it is HE WHO LIVES through ME.
Once again, I'd like to ask: How do we "live in His Sabbaths? His Festivals? His celebrations, which are all in His Word/Law? With His Spirit living in us, are we to observe the Torah literally, or are we already doing it spiritually?

MY REALITY is in MESSIAH.
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1PET 3:13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?
1PET 3:14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
1PET 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
1PET 3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
1PET 3:17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
1PET 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1PET 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1PET 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
1PET 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
1PET 3:22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
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YH'SHWH lived in flesh

1PET 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

Now, that HE LIVES in my flesh, I submit to HIM (HIS SPIRIT)

1PET 4:2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
1PET 4:3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:
1PET 4:4 Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:
1PET 4:5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
1PET 4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
1PET 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
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HE walked in HIS WORD. HE is the LIVING WORD.

WE must walk as HE did.
In His walk on earth, He fulfilled the Torah. In what ways do we fulfill Torah?

This is what I believe...
Messiah nailed the Torah to the cross. In doing this, did He cancel it? Did He take it away? Paul says He did. What does this mean to me?

The things which were a shadow of that which was to come are found in Messiah. If we are to be "one" with Him then these things should also be found in us. We are His body. The Temple is found in us (as you read in one of my other posts). Daily sacrifices (of praise) are found in us. The Feast of Passover/Unleavened Bread in found in us. So is the Feast of Pentecost etc...

Ricoel, I'm assuming that you will be gathering all the leaven this week in order to remove it from your home. I don't believe this needs to be done, because you've already done it! When you received Him, you threw away your AC/DC albums (or whatever albums you may have had that contained "leaven"), you turned off your MTV, you gave up the "gods" and the "idols" you used to worship...etc... What I'm saying is, you rid your home of the leaven that could harm you spiritually! You removed the yeast so it couldn't "work through the whole batch of dough"!

This week, when Passover comes, remember, we can't gather in a literal Temple in order to celebrate the Feast There's no longer a "literal" Temple where we can gather. But we ourselves are the "spiritual" Temple! In us, we can offer a sacrifice to YHWH! In us, He will give a Sabbath's rest! In us, we will remove all leaven! In us, is a circumsized heart that allows to "eat of the lamb".

In these ways, we walk as Messiah did- we fulfill the Law.

In the literal sense, I'm nothing but a lost gentile. In a spiritual sense, I am a Jew- with a circumcision not performed by the hands of men...

Colossians 2:10-14
10...you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority. 11In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ, 12having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead. 13When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.

with love,
matt

[israelthebride]

Who's WHO!

My Dear FRIEND MATT,

YH'SHWH is HIS WORD/LAW.

HIS SPIRIT is YH'SHWH.

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WHO was nailed to the crossed tree?

WHO LIVES in YOU?

YH'SHWH, SPIRIT, US, and HIS WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation) are ONE. WE cannot BE ONE with a part missing.

HIS WORD/LAW is my mirror/ my discerner of understanding/knowing HIS SPIRIT. HIS SPIRIT LIVES/is HIS WORD/LAW.

How will I know where to and which way HIS SPIRIT is guiding me if I don't know HIS TONGUE/LANGUAGE (WORD/LAW). I will have nothing to discern with.

It is not me who wants to get everything ready for PASSOVER. If it was up to me, I would say, "Let's just do it "spiritually" ".

HIS SPIRIT is ALIVE in ME. HIS SPIRIT GLORIFIES YH'SHWH by guiding ME into and through HIS FESTIVALS and CELEBRATIONS.

I AM SAVED. My SALVATION is COMPLETED by YH'SHWH.
I could just lay down and do nothing and still be SAVED, but all the gifts HE gave me to use would be given to someone who did not lay down and just waited for HIS return. I would be an unfaithful servant.

If I AM a fool in following YH'SHWH'S WORD/LAW, then let ME BE a fool for YH'SHWH. If HIS WORD/LAW is not TRUTH, then may I go to hell following what MY GOD, YH'SHWH SAYS is HIS WORD / HIS TRUTH.

I AM not GOD. I will not and cannot pick and choose what I want to follow in HIS WORD/LAW. HE SAYS, "Those who LOVE ME will follow MY COMMANDS."

I LOVE HIM.

Not in the self-righteous feeling this world calls love. But, in the act of submission to everything HE SAYS.

I will submit to HIS SPIRIT, WHO naturally LIVES HIS WORD/LAW through ME.

As my body moves to the commands of my head, may I move, as HIS BODY, to the COMMANDS of HIS BODY'S HEAD, YH'SHWH.

I AM SAVED. Now, it only natural, through HIS SPIRIT, to LIVE HIS WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation) because I LOVE HIM.

LOVE,

RICOEL

[Matthew23]

Ricoel,

I think you are AWESOME! I don't think you're a fool. I can see that you love Yeshua very much. I have a great respect for you and for your love for Him and His Word. I myself would like to observe the Passover in a literal sense, but I can't because...

Deuteronomy 16:16
Three times a year all your men must appear before YHWH your G-d at the place he will choose: at the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the Feast of Weeks and the Feast of Tabernacles.

Where is the place He has chosen? Like I said before, it's the Temple- in Jerusalem. Ask a Jewish person why he or she doesn't sacrifice any more. They'll tell you it's because "the place YHWH has chosen isn't there". The thing is, not only did YHWH command that the sacrifices be performed there, He also commanded that the Feasts be observed there!

If you're observing Passover in a literal way this week, will you actually "sacrifice the Passover" as commanded in Deuteronomy 16:2? (I don't intend to be a smarty pants by asking this. I think I know the answer, but I needed to ask it in order to make a point)

Again, Ricoel- I don't think you're a fool. I love to read your posts. When I read them, I can feel how much you love Yeshua.

Believe me, I've considered never eating a pork chop again. I've considered "keeping the Sabbaths" literally. I've considered removing the leaven from my house when Passover comes. These are things I've had to do a lot of reading and praying about for quite some time. Lately, though, I've felt some peace about it. And I'm looking forward to sunset tomorrow night...

with much love,
matt

[israelthebride]

YOU are HIS TEMPLE

MATT, I AM not AWESOME, it is HE WHO LIVES in ME that is AWESOME. Let HIM WHO LIVES in YOU BE AWESOME.

This is my opinion, but I believe that you should stop "considering" what HIS SPIRIT, naturally, wants to LIVE.

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Are YOU not HIS "CALLED OUT" ONE?

Are YOU not HIS "CHOSEN"?

WE are the Third TEMPLE.

Not blocks of stone, but stones of flesh built on a mighty foundation set by HIS APOSTLES.

YH'SHWH used to LIVE in the stone temple, now HE LIVES in HIS TEMPLE of flesh.
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YH'SHWH'S SACRIFICE is our final SACRIFICE. The TRUE SACRIFICE that GIVES US SALVATION.

Now, we wander in the "wilderness" until the time comes for US to submit as ONE BODY. HE is going to arrange our gathering. There will come a time when we must submit to YH'SHWH'S WAYS or follow the "world's" ways.

We are going to enter the land and have the day of mourning along with our brother. The TWO WITNESSESS will come out of the "wilderness" in sackcloth.
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MATT, please understand that it is when you have to "consider" something, that that is the time that you should submit, to what you are considering, and let YH'SHWH tell you "NO" or "STOP" if you are wrong. HE will.

It is the intention of following HIS WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation) that HE SEES, not whether you are doing it right or wrong.

Do not follow HIS WORD/LAW in trying to please HIM, but follow it because HE is GOD and because HE SAVED YOU and because YOU LOVE HIM.

WE are ONE.

WE are HIS BODY.

WE are HIS TEMPLE.

WE are HIS ISRAEL.

LOVE,

RICOEL

[Matthew23]

Re: YOU are HIS TEMPLE

Originally posted by israelthebride
Now, we wander in the "wilderness" until the time comes for US to submit as ONE BODY.
me: You are not in the wilderness! You have already entered into His rest!

Hebrews 3:16-4:3
16Who were they who heard and rebelled? Were they not all those Moses led out of Egypt? 17And with whom was he angry for forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose bodies fell in the desert? 18And to whom did God swear that they would never enter his rest if not to those who disobeyed? 19So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief.
1Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. 2For we also have had the gospel preached to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because those who heard did not combine it with faith. 3Now we who have believed enter that rest...

Those that DO NOT believe in Messiah are "in the wilderness". Those that DO believe in Him have "entered into His rest".

I will try to respond more soon.

with love,
matt

[Spying]

No Man, Save The Body Of Messiah!

Hi Matthew23 and Israelthebride,

I have really enjoying your conversation here, and I do not mean to hinder you in any fashion in your discussion.

I would nonetheless ask you both to consider an alternative translation of Colossians 2:17. Here is the KJV:

Col 2:17
17 Which (feasts, new moons, and Sabbaths) are (the Greek word right here for "are" is a present tense) a shadow of things to come (the Greek word right here for "of things to come" is a plural participle in the present tense. This participle has the definite article in the Greek.); but the body is ( "is" is not found in the Greek. It has been added by the translators because they don't have the slightest clue concerning what Paul is actually saying!) of Messiah ( both "body" and "Messiah" have the definite article in the Greek) (KJV)

In fairness to the translators, I must admit that the Greek forms of the verb "to be" are not always supplied in the written language. So, often they must be supplied by the translators as context would seem to require. The above verse is interesting because Paul did insert the Greek verb for "are" when it could have been left for context to determine what he meant, and then in the last phrase, Paul does not deem it necessary to supply the "is" because he is certain that we would all understand what he is saying! This is very convenient for those translators who are inclined to be lawless!

The use of the present tense "are" in the above verse tells us that at the time of Paul's writing: Feasts, New Moons, and Sabbaths are all still shadows, and they will continue to be shadows. They are not limited as shadows to New Testament times. They are still shadows today! How about that? And what indeed are they shadows of? They are shadows of some very specific coming things, are they not? We know that these coming things are in the process of coming at the time that Paul is writing because Paul uses the present tense, and Paul is not talking about just any old coming things. Paul is talking about some very specific coming things. We know that because Paul uses the definite article with the verb or participle for coming things.

We know full well that Messiah gave his Body the authority to bind and loose on this earth. This authority was first given to Peter (Matthew 16:19), and then, almost immediately, this authority to bind and loosen is then given collectively to all of the disciples (Matthew 18:18). So, no one man within the Body has the authority presently to bind or loose anything! This is a function of the Body of Messiah collectively. Anyone who cares to see this authority in operation can check it out in Acts 15 as the Body of Messiah did bind and loosen certain things with the full agreement of the spirit!

No man can judge you or me with respect to how we keep the Sabbath, but the Body of Messiah can certainly determine how we are to keep the Sabbath or even whether we are to observe the Sabbath! When the Body of Messiah makes these type of judgments, the judgments surely stand until they are changed.

Since the Sabbath is a shadow of complete rest from the natural work of man, which is sin, it is my judgment that the Body of Messiah should observe or keep the physical Sabbath holy as commanded as a sure sign that we do believe in that rest, that is, if we indeed have been delivered from Egypt!

Sincerely, Spying

[israelthebride]

YES---YES---YES!!!

I AM out of the wilderness becasue of my GOD, YH'SHWH!!!

In HIS SALVATION, I AM FREE to celebrate all HIS APPOINTED FEASTS and to LIVE under HIS WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation)!!!
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Freedom is not choosing to do whatever you think or want. Insane people live that way. They do whatever they want/think; whenever they want; however they want/think.

Freedom is choosing to do what one knows is right.

YH'SHWH'S WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation) is right.

I LOVE YOU,

RICOEL

[MadeByFire]

Re: YOU are HIS TEMPLE

Originally posted by israelthebride
YH'SHWH'S SACRIFICE is our final SACRIFICE. The TRUE SACRIFICE that GIVES US SALVATION.

Having said this, is it because Yeshua has fulfilled the sacrifice of the Passover Lamb that we are not required any longer to offer one year after year? The blood of the Passover Lamb was a covering for the Isrealites in Egypt just as Yeshua's blood is a covering for us. But what about the other offerings required during the Feast of Unleavened Bread?...

Numbers 28:16-25
16 " 'On the fourteenth day of the first month the LORD's Passover is to be held. 17 On the fifteenth day of this month there is to be a festival; for seven days eat bread made without yeast. 18 On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work. 19 Present to the LORD an offering made by fire, a burnt offering of two young bulls (do the "bulls" bring you salvation?), one ram (does the "ram" bring you salvation?) and seven male lambs a year old (what about these?) all without defect. 20 With each bull prepare a grain offering of three-tenths of an ephah of fine flour mixed with oil; with the ram, two-tenths; 21 and with each of the seven lambs, one-tenth. 22 Include one male goat as a sin offering to make atonement for you. 23 Prepare these in addition to the regular morning burnt offering. 24 In this way prepare the food for the offering made by fire every day for seven days as an aroma pleasing to the LORD ; it is to be prepared in addition to the regular burnt offering and its drink offering. 25 On the seventh day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work.

If these sacrifices do NOT bring us "salvation", are we then required to offer them to this day? Or have they ALSO been fulfilled by Yeshua?

What parts of the Torah did Yeshua fulfill? Which parts did He not fulfill?

Which parts were "canceled" and which were not?

Which parts were "nailed to the cross" and which were not?

This past Sunday ("the morrow after the Sabbath"-Lev. 23:10-11), did your priest go into the temple and wave the Sheaf before YHWH? He was required to do so. If this didn't happen, then He and the whole Isrealite community has failed to obey YHWH's commands. If the two young bulls, the ram and the lambs were not offered, then the Feast hasn't been observed as YHWH has commanded.

Who are the Isrealites in Lev. 23? They are those who were circumcised on the eighth day. Ricoel, WHEN AND HOW WERE YOU CIRCUMCISED? Having the kind of circumcision you've had, under what kind of covenant are you?

with love,
matt
(MadeByFire: fomerly known as Matthew23 )

[israelthebride]

The SACRIFICE

This is what I have learned through HIS SPIRIT.

When the first man and woman sinned; instead of killing them for their sin, YH'SHWH killed an animal and took it's skin to cover the nakedness (the sin) of the man and woman. I believe that that animal was a lamb. An innocent lamb.

Then, when the time came to make an offering to our GOD YH'SHWH, ABEL gave the best parts of a lamb to YH'SHWH. ABEL was offering YH'SHWH, the SACRIFICE, that YH'SHWH had SACRIFICED for US. An innocent lamb.

Cain offered YH'SHWH what Cain had done for YH'SHWH.

ABEL offered YH'SHWH what YH'SHWH had done for US.
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YH'SHWH came to redeem US from the death of the innocent. The innocent lamb. The SACRIFICE had to be an innocent man to replace the innocent lamb. YH'SHWH, HIMSELF the INNOCENT, came and redeemed US.

Now, I take HIS SACRIFICE (HIS CROSS becomes MY CROSS) and offer HIS SACRIFICE to HIM. HIS SACRIFICE makes ME INNOCENT and HOLY in HIS EYES.

This is the SACRIFICE I offer, instead of all the other "shadow" sacrifices, in HIS HOLY FESTIVALS.
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MADEBYFIRE,

YH'SHWH fulfills all sacrifices.

Now, I suggest you read the Letter to the Hebrews and see which LAWS YH'SHWH fulfilled. There are two LAWS that were fulfilled and concluded. That is what the Letter is about. The two LAWS that are considered old and done with because YH'SHWH fulfilled them.
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And yes, I still go through the ceremonies of HIS HOLY FESTIVALS with YH'SHWH as my SACRIFICE to HIM.

If you think that I AM breaking HIS LAW as I AM trying to follow it, so be it. I know my GOD YH'SHWH sees MY HEART and MY INTENTION and I do so want to follow HIS WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation).

YH'SHWH is MY GOD and I AM HIS TEMPLE.

LOVE,

RICOEL

[MadeByFire]

Ricoel,

Thanks for replying. I appreciate you taking the time out to share what you know with me.

I intend to get back with you on this soon...

with love,
matt

[MadeByFire]

Re: The SACRIFICE

Originally posted by israelthebride
When the first man and woman sinned; instead of killing them for their sin, YH'SHWH killed an animal and took it's skin to cover the nakedness (the sin) of the man and woman. I believe that that animal was a lamb. An innocent lamb.
I agree that an animal was sacrificed at that time.
Then, when the time came to make an offering to our GOD YH'SHWH, ABEL gave the best parts of a lamb to YH'SHWH. ABEL was offering YH'SHWH, the SACRIFICE, that YH'SHWH had SACRIFICED for US. An innocent lamb.
Cain offered YH'SHWH what Cain had done for YH'SHWH.
ABEL offered YH'SHWH what YH'SHWH had done for US.
This makes sense.
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YH'SHWH came to redeem US from the death of the innocent. The innocent lamb. The SACRIFICE had to be an innocent man to replace the innocent lamb. YH'SHWH, HIMSELF the INNOCENT, came and redeemed US.
I agree.

Now, I take HIS SACRIFICE (HIS CROSS becomes MY CROSS) and offer HIS SACRIFICE to HIM. HIS SACRIFICE makes ME INNOCENT and HOLY in HIS EYES.

This is the SACRIFICE I offer, instead of all the other "shadow" sacrifices, in HIS HOLY FESTIVALS.
But those "shadow" sacrifices are required to be offered.

YH'SHWH fulfills all sacrifices.
I agree.
Now, I suggest you read the Letter to the Hebrews and see which LAWS YH'SHWH fulfilled. There are two LAWS that were fulfilled and concluded. That is what the Letter is about. The two LAWS that are considered old and done with because YH'SHWH fulfilled them.
I am guessing you mean the PRIEST and the SACRIFICE are the "old" parts of the Law (for there is ONE complete law) that have been done away with by Yeshua's fulfillment. Am I correct?
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And yes, I still go through the ceremonies of HIS HOLY FESTIVALS with YH'SHWH as my SACRIFICE to HIM.
So, is there no fulfillment of the FEASTS in Yeshua's life, death, resurrection, etc. besides the offerings and the priest?

If you think that I AM breaking HIS LAW as I AM trying to follow it, so be it. I know my GOD YH'SHWH sees MY HEART and MY INTENTION and I do so want to follow HIS WORD/LAW (Genesis to Revelation).
I have respect for anyone who does what they believe is the WILL of GOD. But it is impossible to "literally" observe the Feasts in the fashion of ancient Isreal, as I have shown you.

I believe that we observe the Feasts on a different level now. A spiritual level:

Romans 7:6
6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

YH'SHWH is MY GOD and I AM HIS TEMPLE.
YES!

love,
matt

[israelthebride]

I believe that we observe the Feasts on a different level now. A spiritual level: (I agree!!!)

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Romans 7:6
6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
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The LAW is SPIRITUAL

ROM 7:6 But now we are delivered from the LAW, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of SPIRIT, and not in the oldness of the letter.

ROM 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the LAW sin? GOD forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the LAW: for I had not known lust, except the LAW had said, Thou shalt not covet.

I would not know sin without YH'SHWH'S WORD/LAW.

ROM 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the LAW sin was dead.

Without HIS WORD/LAW sin, in me, was dead to me.

ROM 7:9 For I was alive without the LAW once: but when the COMMANDMENT came, sin revived, and I died.

HIS WORD/LAW showed me my sin and how I needed to die to it.

ROM 7:10 And the COMMANDMENT, which was ORDAINED to LIFE, I found to be unto death.

I found HIS WORD/LAW WAS HIS LIFE in ME, but death to me (self).


ROM 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the COMMANDMENT, deceived me, and by it slew me.

I was dying, from YH'SHWH'S LIFE (HIS WORD/LAW), in the lie of sin.

ROM 7:12 Wherefore the LAW is HOLY, and the COMMANDMENT HOLY, and JUST, and GOOD.
ROM 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? GOD forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the COMMANDMENT might become exceeding sinful.

YH'SHWH'S WORD/LAW is HOLY and not made to kill me. HIS WORD/LAW is so that sin will show up as sinful. HIS WORD/LAW shows me that sin will kill me.

ROM 7:14 For we know that the LAW is SPIRITUAL: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

I AM SPIRITUAL in following HIS WORD/LAW.

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I am carnal without HIS WORD/LAW. Without the intention of following HIS WHOLE WORD/LAW, I would, probably, end up picking and choosing what I want to follow in HIS WORD/LAW.

How can one be SPIRITUAL without HIS WORD/LAW that is SPIRITUAL?

LOVE,

RICOEL