Hi BeSeder,
I hope to place this in order with your help and the help of others who might trouble us!

Actually, the issue which you raise was very much on my mind as I wrote the last post on this thread. Specifically, at issue here, is whether or not a sacrifice can be renamed or redesignated while it is being offered or even after it has been offered? I am sure that there is oral teaching which applies in other areas as well; although, I have not had the time to gather much information in these regards.
The position detailed in the above post is actually greater evidence that John and others actually yet remain alive on this earth. Without a redesignation of the Passover Lamb as a freewill peace offering, the Law is very clear about what must occur with the "remainder" of the offering when the night is past and the morning comes.
Exactly what does it mean in a spiritual sense to be burned by fire? I interpret burning by fire as suffering physical persecution and death. Without a redesignation, John's death would have been certain, or, at the very least, John and others would have been subjected to a constant persecution for the past two thousand years. Without a redesignation, I am forced to entertain as a possible fate for them of some sort of slow burning fire more along the lines of torture that inflects suffering but does not kill.
With a redesignation, the picture changes. Now, the possibility of a "remainder" more reasonably exists. Viewed in that light, these words of Yahushua take on a much greater significance:
John 21:22
22 Yahushua saith unto him, If I will that he tarry (remain) till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. (KJV)
22 Yahushua saith unto him, If I will that he tarry (remain) till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. (KJV)
Paul shows us by his words that he believes in the "remainder":
1Thes 4:15-18
15 For this we say unto you by the word of ADONAI, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of ADONAI shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of ELOHIM: and the dead in Messiah shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet ADONAI in the air: and so shall we ever be with ADONAI.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. (KJV)
15 For this we say unto you by the word of ADONAI, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of ADONAI shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of ELOHIM: and the dead in Messiah shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet ADONAI in the air: and so shall we ever be with ADONAI.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. (KJV)
Under a Passover Lamb that is designated as a thanksgiving offering, John and company could only have lived on for a thousand years or so. If the Passover Lamb becomes a freewill peace offering, the possibility of living two thousand years or longer dramatically increases. Do you follow this reasoning?
Sincerely, Spying
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