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  • Thummim
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    At play with prophecy.

    A word went fourth as you began your plea, and I have come to tell it, for you are precious; so "mark the word" and understand the vision. Dan. 9: 23 JPS

    11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him. Dan 9: 11

    Curse = allah

    25 So Joshua made a covenant with the people that day, and set them a statute and an ordinance in Shechem.

    26 And Joshua wrote these words in the book of the law of God, and took a great stone, and set it up there under an oak, that was by the sanctuary of YHWH. Josh. 24: 25, 26


    oak = allah

    ...a stone under allah, near the holy place?

    --> and how would one tie the hands of YHWH?

    15 Then these men assembled unto the king, and said unto the king, Know, O king, that the law of the Medes and Persians is, That no decree nor statute which the king establisheth may be changed. Dan. 6: 15

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    38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. Dan. 11: 38

    --> allah, a new god "of militias" {who makes holy war?} honored with the wealth of its followers?

    ....Michael

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  • Thummim
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    The angel in pursuit!

    ...The question that led me to seek how YHWH's hands could be tied, is one of needing an Eloheem that did not choose the fate of his people. {lambs led to the slaughter} I sought to find out how the hands of YHWH could be tied.

    15 Then these men assembled unto the king, and said unto the king, Know, O king, that the law of the Medes and Persians is, That no decree nor statute which the king establisheth may be changed. Dan. 6: 15

    ...I think that we probably agree that the decrees of YHWH are equally unchangeable.

    20 (*If we have forgotten the name of our God*), or stretched out our hands to a strange god;

    21 (*Shall not God search this out*)? for he knoweth the secrets of the heart. Ps. 44: 20, 21

    ...would he search this out?

    25 So Joshua made a covenant with the people that day, and set them a statute and an ordinance in Shechem. {where a covenant of circumcision is broken, Gen. chap. 34}

    26 And Joshua wrote these words in the book of the law of God, and took a great stone, and set it up there under an {oak} --> {allah}, that was by the sanctuary of YHWH.

    27 And Joshua said unto all the people, Behold, (*this stone shall be a witness unto us*); for it hath heard all the words of the LORD which he spake unto us: it shall be therefore a witness unto you, lest ye deny your God. Josh. 24: 25 - 26

    ...Abd al Malik, I've got you cornered. Now you will see who is Eloheem. The day of YHWH has come to visit you.

    ...The seven eyes, are the eyes of YHWH. Could YHWH's hands be tied by a stone? Is he a King, and also bound by his word? If I see this conflict that assaults the name of YaHudaH, am I free to loose my Eloheem upon this world, and upon the enemies of his name? Am I free to untie him? To free him, I would only need to teach the name of YHWH. And this I know.

    4 Let them be confounded and put to shame that seek after my soul: let them be turned back and brought to confusion that devise my hurt.

    5 Let them be as chaff before the wind: and (*let the angel of YHWH chase them*).

    6 Let their way be dark and slippery: and (*let the angel of YHWH persecute them*).

    7 (*For without cause have they hid for me their net in a pit, which without cause they have digged for my soul*).

    8 (*Let destruction come upon him at unawares; and let his net that he hath hid catch himself: into that very destruction let him fall*).

    9 And my soul shall be joyful in YHWH: it shall rejoice in his salvation.

    10 All my bones shall say, YHWH, who is like unto thee, which deliverest the poor from him that is too strong for him, yea, the poor and the needy from him that spoileth him?

    11 (*False witnesses did rise up; they laid to my charge things that I knew not*).

    12 They rewarded me evil for good to the spoiling of my soul. Ps. 35: 4 - 12

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    7 (*Our soul is escaped as a bird out of the snare of the fowlers: the snare is broken, and we are escaped*).

    8 (*Our help is in the name of YHWH*), who made heaven and earth. Ps. 124: 7, 8

    ---> YaHudaH --> Praise Yah <-- YHWH,

    ...Can YHWH charge his own name with transgression? And this added to a people who are declared by their Eloheem, to be saved with an everlasting salvation, world without end? Isa. 45: 17, same paragraph as Isa. 45: 1 = the name of Yahudah is now free. But for those who put the stone under allah, their troubles are only beginning. Can you feel it in the air?

    ....Michael

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  • Ben Yahweh
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    Agreed

    I agree, there is a possibility that things appear to be in that position. I dont liek the "dumb of the rock" the dumb being their god is not real, and yes the rock is under it.

    I would like to know if literally, the rock has the name written on it. That would be great. But if it is in the Pal sector, they probably have destroyed it, or at least tried to, as with other holy sites that are in their possession. These heathen wil pay a price for their arrogance. I thank YHVH that he is longsuffering. As I have needed to come to an understanding of Whom he is. The fact that I don't have 3 or even 2 but One God clears alot for me, and He is living.

    The number 7 depicts from my perspective a number of completion. Could this me that those watching Jerusalem have fulfilled this prophecy? that there are really 7 witnesses? or is 7 eyes, not sets of eyes, be 3 1/2 persons otherwise. Is there any correlation between sight or eyes or witnesses as to "time" that you have heard of? What other types are related as to time?

    Even the years we use with our calendar has a fault, else why would we use the leap year. But that is incidental anyway. No matter how you shack it. For the physical temple to be rebuilt there will be a war that expunges the Pals and the arabs out of Jerusalem. If Israel gives up the city, they prolong this event. My understanding is that this must occur, before the great and terrible day of the Lord.

    For that is the real thing we are looking for, ...no? That the temple to be rebuilt.

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  • Thummim
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    Prophecy with purpose. {to ensnare the beast that sits where he shouldn't}

    ...Ben Yahweh, we are only told to count the days. These are revolutions of the earth. While the Hebrew calendar has 360 days in it, the real year is 365 days long, unless we want to count out long periods of time. I go with 365 "times" a real day. Everything works out to a day, for a year. The author simply changes his method {his count of years} of representing the days. He is told to "seal" the meaning of his prophecy, {Dan. 12: 4} when after many years he will arise to bring it into its purpose for existing. To make it fit our own time, we have to represent everything in years. Only extreme accuracy, will make the cords strong enough to hold the "beast". As to the eyes that watch the stone, they represent the witnesses of YHWH. The stone is in fact, faceted like a jewel by it's purpose for existing. The the hebrew word (ah'yin) means (eyes). Seven eyes {witnesses} watch a stone that will be engraved {faceted into a work} which will remove the sin of the land of Israel in one day.
    Of the twelve stones of Ex. 28: 21, the stone of Yahudah belongs to David. That this stone also "bears" the name of YHWH {four of the five letters of the name of Yahudah} is tied to the power of Davids throne. It is through the name of YHWH that Davids throne gets its authority and power to defeat its enemies. Forgetting the name of YHWH would leave the soul naked to attack, and without a defence to clothe this people in. But the name of YHWH would clothe this people in the glory of their Eloheems name, making this people a nation of priests. It would also make them frighteningly powerful.

    10 And all people of the earth shall see that thou art called by the name of YHWH; and they shall be afraid of thee. Deut. 28: 10

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    ....Michael

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  • Ben Yahweh
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    Interesting tid bit there!

    Quick question,

    Is the jewish calendar 365 days or not? or do we use your calculaions based upon the standard Roman Calendar? and how does that play into your calculations.

    I agree it seems the rock that has the DUMB on it appears to be there now. But What of the tablets under the rock. and what are the 7 eyes.

    I do agree that the Lost name, is like the lost ark. Although The Name of YHVH is now revealed. And the Temple is revealed when you speak for YHVH. And as our earthen temples are revisited and sanctified, and the spirit ie..presence of YHVH revisites His temples not made with hands, so too by necessity, the (dumb on the rock) will suddenly speak of YHVH, and his tender mercies, whether they join in those mercies or not? You see the writing on the wall! The ark of the covenant, is a type our hearts and minds where YHVH has placed His name, and his commandments and laws. As we are consecrated and sactified from the world, and join together as ONE as Yahshua said, we then Shall see the Mount Split into 2, and the Glory of the incorruptible EL, will shine through us, as it shines upon us. And then Jerusalem will decend from heaven. YHVHS people will join and YAH will cause his spirit to fill the land and his people shall enjoy the blessing sof the everlasting covenant.

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  • Thummim
    started a topic Playing the prophecy game.

    Playing the prophecy game.

    For the (*ships*) of Chittim (*shall come against him*): therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have (**indignation against the holy covenant**): so shall he do; he shall even return, (**and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant**). Isa. 11: 30

    ...Lets see here. How shall we separate the evil ones from the righteous ones? The evil ones must face the ships of Chittim. He will not fare well in this battle. What does he want. He cannot stand the existance of the (Holy Covenant). Who puts forth ships against him? Who favors the holy covenant? Those who hate it gather. They have placed the abomination that has made desolate the JEWish people. Let me place a stone under allah here, to stir the coals.

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    And Joshua wrote these words in the book of the law of God, and took a great stone, and set it up there under an (*oak --> allah*), that was (*by the sanctuary of YHWH*).

    And Joshua said unto all the people, Behold, (*this stone shall be a witness unto us*); for it hath heard all the words of YHWH which he spake unto us: it shall be therefore a witness unto you, lest ye deny your God. Josh. 24: 26, 27

    ...a stone under allah near the holy place? Where have I seen this? Indignation against the Holy Covenant?

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    For (*behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua*); upon one stone shall be seven eyes: {witnesses} behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith YHWH of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day. Zech. 3: 9

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    And (*arms shall stand on his part*), and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and (*they shall place the "abomination" that maketh desolate*). Dan. 11: 31


    And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with (*gold and precious stones and pearls*), having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

    And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, (**BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND "ABOMINATIONS" OF THE EARTH**). Rev. 17: 4, 5

    ...Did Babylon take away the daily sacrifice? Which abomination leaves the land desolate? But for the strength of YHWH's name...

    And (*he carried out thence all the treasures of the house of YHWH*), and the treasures of the king's house, and cut in pieces all the vessels of gold which Solomon king of Israel had made in the temple of YHWH, as YHWH had said.

    And he carried away all Jerusalem, and all the princes, and all the mighty men of valour, even ten thousand captives, and all the craftsmen and smiths: (*none remained, save the poorest sort of the people of the land*). II Ki. 24: 13, 14

    ...end of daily sacrifice!

    (**And such as do wickedly {against the covenant} shall he corrupt by flatteries**): but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits. Dan. 11: 32

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    But in his estate shall he honour the (God of forces --> militias{who makes holy war}): and a god whom (*his fathers knew not*) shall he honour (*with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things*).

    Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and (*he shall cause them to rule over many*), and shall divide the land for gain. Dan. 11: 38

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    ...do you know this god who hates the Holy Covenant? And where can he be found?

    And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at (*Shushan in the palace*), which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai. Dan. 8: 2

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    And the letters were sent by posts into all the king's provinces, (*to destroy, to kill, and to cause to perish, all Jews, both young and old, little children and women*), in one day, even upon the thirteenth day of the twelfth month, which is the month Adar, and to take the spoil of them for a prey.


    The posts went out, being hastened by the king's commandment, and the decree was given (*in Shushan the palace*). And the king and Haman sat down to drink; but the city (*--> Shushan*) was perplexed. Esther 3: 13, 15

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    And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. {--> Israel}, Dan. 8: 9

    ...which {new god's} faith spreads south, east and west from Shushan, where Danial recieves his vision?

    1. Abu Bakr

    2. Umar I

    3. Uthman

    4. Ali

    5, 6 {Shite split} --> 5. Hasan (Suni), Husayn (Shite)

    7. Muawiyah

    8. Yazid

    9. Muawiyah II

    10. Marwan ibn al Hakam

    11. Abd al Malek {malek means "king"}

    ...he is responsible for the dome of the rock, for you who have eyes but can't see. He sets a stone under allah, near the holy place. Here a covenant is made with a people who {may have} "lost" the name of their Eloheem.

    I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them (*another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots*): and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. Dan. 7: 8

    But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and (*seal the book, even to the time of the end*): many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Dan. 12: 4, 1 day = 1 year, If it was not simple, no one would believe, and the cords would snap.

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    And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. Dan. 8: 21 -356 BCE, at Alexanders birth.

    And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, (*and shall destroy the mighty {war}*) and (*the holy people. {holocaust}*) 1945

    1945 + 356 = 2301, negetive year 0 = 2300 Years

    365 x 3.5 = 1277.5, 1277.5 - 586 BCE = 691.5, negetive year 0 = 586.5 The desolation of Jerusalem begins, II Chr. 36: 18 - 20 {586 BCE} until the abomination is placed, {dome of the rock, 690 CE}

    ...Whether you want to agree with me, or not, having indignation against the Holy Covenant is what it is all about. Which side are you on? YHWH favors his own name. (YaHudaH) I've cut a few arrows out of a forest that I seldom use. Believe what you will.

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    And YHWH said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:

    For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

    And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered.

    Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it unto thee. Gen. 13: 14 - 17

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    ....Michael
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