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    The Broken BRANCHes of ISRAEL

    JER 11:16 YHWH called you a thriving olive tree
    with fruit beautiful in form.
    But with the roar of a mighty storm
    HE will set it on fire,
    and its branches will be broken.

    JER 11:17 Almighty YHWH, who planted you, has decreed disaster for you, because the house of ISRAEL and the house of YEHUDAH have done evil and provoked me to anger by burning incense to Baal.
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    RO 11:11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the unbelievers to make ISRAEL envious. 12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the unbelievers, how much greater riches will their fullness bring!

    RO 11:13 I am talking to you unbelievers. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the unbelievers, I make much of my ministry 14 in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the part of the dough offered as FIRSTFRUITs is HOLY, then the whole batch is HOLY; if the ROOT is HOLY, so are the BRANCHes.

    RO 11:17 If some of the BRANCHes have been broken off, (Jeremiah 11:16) and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive ROOT, 18 do not boast over those BRANCHes. If you do, consider this: You do not support the ROOT, but the ROOT supports you. 19 You will say then, "BRANCHes were broken off so that I could be grafted in." 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by FAITH. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 21 For if YHWH did not spare the original BRANCHes (in Jeremiah 11:16), he will not spare you either.

    RO 11:22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of YHWH: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in HIS kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for YHWH is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the other BRANCHes, be grafted into their own olive tree!

    RO 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: ISRAEL has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the unbelievers has come in 26 so ALL of ISRAEL will be saved, as it is written:

    "The deliverer will come from Zion;
    HE will take godlessness away from Jacob.

    RO 11:27 And this is MY COVENANT with them
    when I take away their sin."
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    ZEC 4:11 Then I asked the angel, "What are these two olive trees on the right and the left of the lampstand?"

    ZEC 4:12 Again I asked him, "What are these two olive branches beside the two gold pipes that pour out golden oil?"

    ZEC 4:13 He replied, "Do you not know what these are?"
    "No, my lord," I said.

    ZEC 4:14 So he said, "These are the two who are anointed ton serve the MASTER of all the earth."


    REV11: 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth." 4 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the MASTER of the earth. 5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. 6 These men have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.

    REV 11:7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city, which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt, where also their MASTER was crucified. 9 For three and a half days men from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.

    REV 11:11 But after the three and a half days a breath of life from YHWH entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard YHWH’s voice from heaven saying to them, "COME UP HERE!" And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.
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    The BRANCHes were broken off. (Jeremiah 11:16)
    The BRANCHes will come together. (Romans 11)
    The BRANCHes are prophesised to become ONE. (Zechariah 4) (Revelation 11)

    All of YHWH’s PEOPLE
    (Christian, Jew, Mormon, Muslim, American, European, Asian, etc… All who submit to YHWH’s SACRIFICE, in YESHUA MESSIAH, and to YHWH’s HOLY SPIRIT and WORD are YHWH’s PEOPLE)
    must be grafted into ISRAEL, HIS PEOPLE,

    YHWH's PLAN:
    Until all unbelievers come in
    Romans 11:26 “so that ALL of ISRAEL will be SAVED”!!!

    WE are ONE!!!
    The BODY of MESSIAH Ministry

    I did not CREATE YOU for a certain time.
    I CREATED YOU for ETERNITY.
    I CREATED YOU for ME.
    That is why I SAVED YOU.
    For ME.

    YOUR HUSBAND,
    YHSHWH

  • #2
    Bad fruit, good fruit.

    The following is a must read, for it defines the captivity;

    1 YHWH shewed me, and, behold, two baskets of figs were set before the temple of YHWH, after that Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon had carried away captive Jeconiah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah, and the princes of Judah, with the carpenters and smiths, from Jerusalem, and had brought them to Babylon.

    2 One basket had very good figs, even like the figs that arefirst ripe: and the other basket had very naughty figs, which could not be eaten, they were so bad.

    3 Then said YHWH unto me, What seest thou, Jeremiah? And I said, Figs; the good figs, very good; and the evil, very evil, that cannot be eaten, they are so evil.

    4 Again the word of YHWH came unto me, saying,

    5 (*Thus saith YHWH, the God of Israel; Like these good figs, so will I acknowledge them that are carried away captive of Judah, whom I have sent out of this place into the land of the Chaldeans for their good.

    6 For I will set mine eyes upon them for good, '''(*and I will bring them again to this land: and I will build them, and not pull themdown; and I will plant them, and not pluck them up*)'''.

    7 And I will give them an heart to know me, that I am YHWH: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God: for they shall return unto me with their whole heart*).

    8 And as the evil figs, which cannot be eaten, they are so evil; surely thus saith YHWH, So will I give Zedekiah the king of Judah, and his princes, and the residue of Jerusalem, that remain in this land, and them that dwell in the land of Egypt:

    9 And I will deliver them to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth for their hurt, to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse, in all places whither I shall drive them.

    10 And I will send the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, among them, till they be consumed from off the land that I gave unto them and to their fathers. Jer. 24: 3 - 10

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    ...It must be remembered that the good fruit will leave Babylon as prisoners released from bondage. Any transgresson is paid for by this captivity. The people who leave Babylon, will be a righteous people to YHWH. The bad fruit is consumed during the captivity. This righteousness that follows the captivities of both Judah and Israel, conclude in a righteous people. The book of Isaiah makes it clear, that the debt is expunged. This people are not to be removed from the land of Israel again, because of YHWH's wrath. There have always been a representitive of this people, in the land of Israel since leaving Babylon, though the numbers have at times been only a few thousand. It is wrong to think that the land was ever empty of JEWs since YHWH made a promise not to force his people from the land. Any research will prove me right.

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    7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.

    8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith YHWH thy Redeemer.

    9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.

    10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith YHWH that hath mercy on thee. Isa. 54: 7 - 10

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    ...The evil that follows the JEWish people is not by the will of YHWH. I trust that it will be the name of YHWH, when taught to this world, that shall become this peoples peace. It shall cover them like a great vail. If the name of YHWH were forgotten, how would it deliver its people's from the darkness of this world? Isn't it the name of YHWH, that yeilds salvation to its people? For now, darkness covers the earth. Gross darkness. (Isa. 60: 2)

    18 Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call thy walls Salvation, and thy gates Praise.

    19 The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: {see Mal. 4: 2}(*but YHWH shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory*).

    {When YHWH reveals his name to Moses, he also shows him his glory at the same instant. Could the graciousness of YHWH belong to his name?} --> Ex. 33: 17- 19, Ex. 34: 5, 6

    20 Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for YHWH shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended.

    21 Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified.

    22 A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I YHWH will hasten it in his time. Isa. 60: 18- 22

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    Baruch Hashem, ....Michael

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    • #3
      The NT is unnamed and unsigned.

      ...Israelthebride, I cannot address the NT verses that you quote, since there is no evidence that those who wrote them, knew the name of YHWH. This knowledge is everywhere within the tanakh and it lights its pages. The tanakh is built upon the name of YHWH, and its authors constantly hint at the origins of the sacred name of "Praise".

      Psalm 8

      1 To the chief Musician upon Gittith, A Psalm of David.

      O YHWH our adonai, (*how excellent is thy name in all the earth!*) who hast set thy glory above the heavens.

      (*consider the third and the fourth days - Did YHWH want his name higher than the heavens, for these two are out of order, with the fourth day set to be removed from the heavens.*)

      2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger. (* who -praise Yah-*)

      3 When I (*consider thy heavens*), the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;

      4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?

      5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast (*crowned him with glory and honour.*) Isa. 60: 1 - 3

      6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:

      7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;

      8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.

      9 O YHWH our adonai, (*how excellent is thy name in all the earth!*)

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      Baruch Hashem, ....Michael

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      • #4
        Our Branch!

        Hi Israelthebride,

        I am not writing to elicit response from you, but the understanding that YAH has given to you about the Broken Branches is right on. Judah has never been more than the branch of a greater tree. The tree is YAHWEH. Bottom line, all the branches were broken off including Messiah himself in the death of Messiah Yahshua.

        The belief among some elements of traditional Christianity that the whole world must be grafted into Judah or into a Jewish vine or tree is only true if we securely recognize that YAH is the root of our tree and that the Branch is Messiah Yahshua and that Messiah himself is YAHUD.

        All Israel includes the descendants of all the other tribes who have lost their identity. Messiah is presently working to graft both Jew and Gentile again into himself. If the tribe of YAHUD was not also broken off, then why must they also be grafted into the tree again through Messiah. Surely, the YAHUD will come to repentance, and not continue to deny their ADONAI!

        May you have a blessed Sabbath Day.

        Sincerely, Spying

        P.S. I did not see the New Moon last night in St. Louis, MO. Did you see it in Texas?
        The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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        • #5
          Trees, branches and fruit

          5 Thus saith YHWH, the God of Israel; Like these good figs, (*so will I acknowledge them that are carried away captive of Judah*), whom I have sent out of this place into the land of the Chaldeans (*for their good*). Jer. 24: 5

          ...Spying, there are also good fruit held in captivity. YHWH ackknowledges these good fruit throughout the captivity. They are called "good". These same people are the core on which YHWH gathers Israel. Yahudah giving birth to his brethren, makes a good example of the author's views on this matter. The existance of Israel, as occupiers of the land around Judea, is addressed in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah. The branch of Yahudah is never removed from the tree. But the bad fruit is removed from the tree's branches. The bad fruit worships other gods. Those who worship YHWH are not bad fruit, the reason for the pruning of the branches in the first place. The righteous are distinguished from the unrighteous, even by Isaiah. It is the unrighteous, who leave their name for a curse to the righteous. Be carefull how you prune YHWH's tree. YHWH didn't intend to kill it! This tree gets YHWH's blessing when the captivity ends. You must remember that the dispersal of Israel happened over a hundred years before the captivity of Yahudah took place. It was Assyria who carried the dispersed of Israel away from the land. Only in forgetting the name of their Eloheem, did they (Israel) blend into the people who surrounded them, and so died in the many faiths of the worlds people's. Many of those who remembered their Eloheem, wondered back to the regathered Jerusalem and its surrounding lands. Several of the tanakh's author's, have stated that there would no longer be a separate and distinct Israel. The people are a merged people, whose "tree" is florishing. You keep wanting to attach this people to a false god (jesus). They resist all who try. As long as the name of YHWH endures, the people of Yahudah will also endure. In this I speak of all Israel, whom the tribe of Yahudah has birthed.

          Zerubbabel thinks that he is raising up the tribes of Israel. The following verses of text, take place 250 years after the captivity of Yahudah. (approx.)

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          13 When I have bent Judah for me, filled the bow with Ephraim, and raised up thy sons, O Zion, against thy sons, O Greece, and made thee as the sword of a mighty man.

          14 And YHWH shall be seen over them, and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning: and the Adonai Eloheinu shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south.

          15 YHWH of hosts shall defend them; and they shall devour, and subdue with sling stones; and they shall drink, and make a noise as through wine; and they shall be filled like bowls, and as the corners of the altar.

          16 And YHWH their Eloheem shall save them in that day as the flock of his people: for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land.

          17 For how great is his goodness, and how great is his beauty! corn shall make the young men cheerful, and new wine the maids. Zech. 9: 13 - 17 (*Greece has ceased to be a threat, as it was in Alexanders time.*)

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          ...Focus on Greece. This dates these verses to the temple of Zerubbabel, in the time of Alexander. This new Israel does confront Greece. It just isn't recorded in the tanakh. There is a famous story that dates from the time of Alexander, on how Alexander was dissuaded from attacking Jerusalem. Alexander got to read of himself, within certain the pages of the books that make up the tanakh. The book of Danial, I believe to be one of those books. The following verses seem to make Yahudah the host nation of Israel.

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          8 For thus saith YHWH of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: (*for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye*).

          9 For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that YHWH of hosts hath sent me.

          10 Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith YHWH.

          11 And many nations shall be joined to YHWH in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that YHWH of hosts hath sent me unto thee.

          12 (*And YHWH shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again*).

          13 Be silent, O all flesh, before YHWH: for he is raised up out of his holy habitation. Zech. 2: 8 - 13


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          6 Ho, ho, come forth, and flee (*from the land of the north*), saith the LORD: for I have spread you abroad as the four winds of the heaven, saith the LORD.

          7 Deliver thyself, O Zion, (*that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon*). Zech. 2: 6, 7

          ;these verses set the context, and date the previous verses to the temple of Zerubbabel. Isn't the gathering of Israel included in these verses?
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          ...While there are many nations gathered to Yahudah, as expressed in the verses above, this gathering takes place before (jesus) comes on the scene. Perhaps it is speaking of the nations of Israel. In any case, one must not try to replace YHWH's tree with another.

          ...Spying, you want to make the tree, a part of (jesus), I want to make it a part of YHWH. You want to make (jesus) into YHWH, I cannot except this, for it would give christianity the keys to the gates of heaven. What christianity has been to the JEWish people here on the earth, it would also be in the heavens.

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          19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Mat. 16: 19

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          ....Michael

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          • #6
            ONE ROOT - ONE TREE

            SPYING and MICHAEL,

            I AM glad to read your posts and to read your comments. So as not to offend, I will say; you both know which post was in YHWH's HOLY SPIRIT.

            Don't judge anyone, judge yourself. (I AM not saying anyone was judging, just let US look at ourselves first)
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            SPYING,
            I AM truly grateful for your comments.

            YHWH is the only ROOT of the only OLIVE TREE. There are TWO BRANCHes in HIS WORD that HE has broken off.

            YHWH, through YESHUA, is SAVIOR. MESSIAH is YHWH's BODY indwelled by HIS HOLY SPIRIT. MESSIAH means "oiled" and the oil is YHWH's HOLY SPIRIT.

            YOU with YHWH's HOLY SPIRIT in YOU are "oiled"/HOLY SPIRITed/MESSIAH/HIS BODY.

            First, WE accept YHWH's SALVATION, through YESHUA, who was MESSIAH here on earth,
            ONE submits to YHWH's HOLY SPIRIT, who LIVES YHWH's WORD.
            Then, ONE submits to YHWH's HOLY SPIRITed BODY-------MESSIAH.
            WE are SAVED through MESSIAH, HIS BODY, because of YHWH's SACRIFICE and by submitting to HIS HOLY SPIRIT.
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            MICHAEL,
            You quoted from the New COVENANT Book. I LOVE YOU.

            Anyone who says that because of the New COVENANTs the Old COVENANTs are dead, is wrong. All of YHWH's COVENANTs will stand until the New YERU'SHALOM.

            JER 11:16 YHWH called you a thriving olive tree
            with fruit beautiful in form.
            But with the roar of a mighty storm
            HE will set it on fire,
            and its branches will be broken.

            JER 11:17 Almighty YHWH, who planted you, has decreed disaster for you, because the house of ISRAEL and the house of YEHUDAH have done evil and provoked me to anger by burning incense to Baal.

            Both HOUSES, ISRAEL and YEHUDAH were broken from the OLIVE TREE because of their unbelief. Now, all of US need to run to YHWH and ask for HIS FORGIVENESS and to be accepted into HIS BODY.

            My FRIEND,
            Saul, DAVID, and all the PROPHETs were indwelled by YHWH's HOLY SPIRIT. YHWH's HOLY SPIRIT is the only ONE that can LIVE YHWH's WORD.
            HIS HOLY SPIRIT in US makes US - YHWH's LIVING WORD. Ask YHWH to let HIS HOLY SPIRIT LIVE in you. YHWH LOVEs YOU and will LIVE in YOU. KNOW HIM. HE knows YOU and wants to LIVE in YOU. This may sound foolish to you and that is because YHWH's WAYs are foolish to our human minds.

            YHWH's HOLY SPIRIT in US is the only way WE can be called by HIS NAME. (It doesn't matter what Tribe ONE is from, without HIS HOLY SPIRIT in ONE - ONE is not with YHWH)

            "If MY PEOPLE, who are called by MY NAME; will humble themselves and pray.
            And seek MY FACE" (HOLY SPIRIT in US-WE look like HIM)
            "And turn from their wicked ways" (HOLY SPIRIT in US-WE can LIVE HIS WORD and not "fruit" sin)
            "Then will I hear in heaven
            And will FORGIVE their sin
            And HEAL their LAND." (the only LAND HE gave US the right to live in)

            The LAND COVENANTed to ABRAHAM, ISAAC, and JACOB (ISRAEL).

            In YHWH's NAME, I beg YOU,
            Ask HIM for HIS SPIRIT in YOU.

            WE will be ONE because
            WE are ONE!!!
            The BODY of MESSIAH Ministry

            I did not CREATE YOU for a certain time.
            I CREATED YOU for ETERNITY.
            I CREATED YOU for ME.
            That is why I SAVED YOU.
            For ME.

            YOUR HUSBAND,
            YHSHWH

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            • #7
              Makeup does not cover the shame of misusing YHWH's name.

              ...Israelthebride, you are making a mistaken assumption. So those who are not "indwelt" (a christian doctrine) are not born of his name. YHWH himself says that his people bear his name. Why do you disagree with YHWH? It should be obvious that YHWH's people bear his name. You are trying to force YHWH's proclamation through your christian doctrine.

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              7 Even every one that is (*called by my name*): for (*I have created him*) for my glory, (*I have formed him*); yea, (*I have made him*). Isa. 43: 7, the words of YHWH.

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              14 If (*my people*), which are (*called by my name*), shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. II Chr. 7: 14

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              ...YHWH makes his declaration, who are you to annul it? Can't you imagion, that YHWH has a reason for his name consisting of four of the five letters of the name of Yahudah? Before christianity is, the name of YHWH was the will of GD. But you want to strip YHWH's people naked and force them to bow to (jesus), a false messiah, whom among all the JEWs who have ever existed, has brought christianity to the JEWish people for their own personal curse. Labeling a people's as christ-killers and unsaved, is a curse to the name of GD. Even Manasseh would be a blessing next to (jesus). There is a reason that the name of YHWH exists. It's so the people of YHWH can claim what is rightly theirs. This always has to be done by name. The name on the deed is Yahudah's. Yahudah can birth a people (Israel). No other people in the world call themselves Yahudah, except the JEWish people. No one can replace them. Do you think if you can disprove their name, that you can have their blessing? YHWH will curse you if you strip his people naked of his name. This name goes on a Kethubah, a marriage licence having the name of the JEWish family upon it. I keep saying, it's a family name, but you refuse to hear me. The christians keep shouting, Me - Me - Me, but they live in a different house, with a different lover. YHWH is jealous of his name. No other name holds the blessing for the JEWish people, that the name of YHWH does. Neither can any other name be proven to be the name of GD, by the tanakh. You stand outside of the gate, naked and without a key, just like you left the JEWish people. You get, what you gave. You should have cared for his name. (*YHWH is the name of a JEW!*) Instead, you try to turn YHWH's heart against his own wife. No matter how much makeup christianity uses, they will never look more attractive to YHWH, then his own people do. Why is it, that x- tianity will not try to defend the JEWish people, and honor them. Instead, it has become a den of thieves, trying to take something from the JEWish people, that does not belong to them!

              ....Michael

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              • #8
                again, satan speaks!

                Israelthebride says;

                JER 11:17 Almighty YHWH, who planted you, has decreed disaster for you, because the house of ISRAEL and the house of YEHUDAH have done evil and provoked me to anger by burning incense to Baal.

                Both HOUSES, ISRAEL and YEHUDAH were broken from the OLIVE TREE because of their unbelief. Now, all of US need to run to YHWH and ask for HIS FORGIVENESS and to be accepted into HIS BODY.

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                YHWH says;

                20 For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and (*all that watch for iniquity are cut off*):

                21 (*That make a man an offender for a word)*, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and (*turn aside the just for a thing of nought*). Isa. 29: 20, 21

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                11 Behold, (*all they that were incensed against thee shall be ashamed and confounded*): they shall be as nothing; and (*they that strive with thee shall perish*).

                12 Thou shalt seek them, and shalt not find them, even them that contended with thee: (*they that war against thee shall be as nothing*), and as a thing of nought.

                13 For (*I YHWH thy God will hold thy right hand*), saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.

                14 Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith YHWH, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel. Isa. 41: 11 - 14

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                21 -->(*Remember these, {O Jacob and Israel}; for thou art my servant: I have formed thee; thou art my servant: O Israel, thou shalt not be forgotten of me.*)<--

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                22 (*I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins*): return unto me; for I have redeemed thee. Isa.44: 21, 22 --> upon leaving Babylon (see verse 28, the time of Cyrus)

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                ...The obsticle that x-tianity keeps in the path of all JEWs who will not bow down to (jesus), is a burdon of sin. X-tianity cannot forgive the JEWish people. But YHWH already has. This vindication came at the fall of Babylon! Any amateur bible philosopher could vindicate the JEWish people by the words of the tanakh. You just have to date the words to their own time. When you don't vindicate the name of Yahudah, you also don't vindicate the name of YHWH. Now that's a slippery path into YHWH's wrath.

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                24 Shall the prey be taken from the mighty, or the lawful captive delivered? --> YHWH did deliver his people.

                25 But thus saith YHWH, Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away, and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered: (*for I will contend with him that contendeth with thee*), and I will save thy children.

                26 And (*I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh*); and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that (*I YHWH am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer*), the mighty One of Jacob Isa. 49: 24 - 26

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                8 (*He is near that justifieth me*); who will contend with me? let us stand together: who is mine adversary? let him come near to me. --> christianity cannot justify YHWH's people.

                9 Behold, YHWH GOD will help me; (*who is he that shall condemn me*)? lo, they all shall wax old as a garment; the moth shall eat them up. Isa. 50: 8, 9

                --> It is x-tianity that is the principle (accuser-->satan) of the JEWish people now. Islams accusations go as deep as the land of Israel, but x-tianities accusations go as deep as the soul!

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                4 Let them be confounded and put to shame that seek after my soul: let them be turned back and brought to confusion that devise my hurt.

                5 Let them be as chaff before the wind: and let the angel of YHWH chase them.

                6 Let their way be dark and slippery: and let the angel of YHWH persecute them.

                7 (*For without cause have they hid for me their net in a pit, which without cause they have digged for my soul*).

                8 Let destruction come upon him at unawares; and (*let his net that he hath hid catch himself*): --> (*into that very destruction let him fall*).

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                --and so it shall be, for all who accuse the house of Yahudah, of sininng against YHWH.(*with importunity*) They themselves shall loose vindication. Yahudah's sins (and Israel's), came to an end long ago. Please don't accuse Yahudah of sin, by the name of the justifier. He alone can again bring them into debt to him.

                ...Baruch Hashem, ...Michael

                Comment


                • #9
                  People of YHWH

                  Peace Micheal,

                  I am curious if you would answer a couple questions for me. I am currently studying Torah, and have only been at it for a very short time. I understand your discontent for 'Christianity', I am not a big fan either. Funny how they blame the Jews for everything, espiaccially for denying Messiah. In my short time I have learned that Paul was able to convince the Jews that Jesus was Messiah, by use of only the Old Testement (sorry, I don't know what else to call it, see what so called xanity has done?). So, I find them silly for blaming Jews. They themselves are not able to convince the Jews, and then Blame the Jews. Above all else, the New Testement says that the Jews eyes have been blinded. And we can blame, make fun of etc. someone for this?

                  So my questions are:

                  Well, according to the encycolpedia anyway, a Jew is considered anyone who Practices Torah, anyone can be a Jew. Is this correct? I am curious because 'Christianity' says that you must be in the blood line, and you are a Jew. Thank you. More later maybe.

                  Sincerely,
                  Robert
                  Proverbs 6:23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    First, the jews are not to blame for the killing of YHWH, as MESSIAH YESHUA. Sin is the blame of death itself. YHWH, as MESSIAH YESHUA, was supposed to die. There was no other WAY, but YHWH's WAY.

                    jews: stop looking to the christians to blame.
                    christians: stop looking to the jews as lost.
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                    In YHWH's WORD:
                    YHWH's PLAN is the RIGHT WAY.

                    It started with the first SACRIFICE.
                    The first man and woman sinned when they made a decision without YHWH. That is still sin.

                    YHWH in HIS GRACE, killed an animal (I believe a LAMB) to clothe the "nakedness" of the man and woman. HE did not kill the man and woman for their sin, though their action called for it.

                    No one can deny that YHWH killed an animal to get the skin for the man and the woman.

                    Death was introduced into YHWH's CREATION.

                    YHWH was/is the only ONE that could/can come to take the place of that LAMB. The LAMB was INNOCENT.

                    It is all planned.

                    From the beginning to MOSES' time when the FESTIVALS were introduced.

                    YHWH, in HIS LOVE for HIS PEOPLE/the LOST of ISRAEL, came as MESSIAH YESHUA to take the place of that LAMB and to take death out of HIS CREATION.
                    HE, as a MAN/GOD, experienced all the things WE do, though without sin.

                    YHWH, as MESSIAH YESHUA, said that HE had come to die. That HE had to die because HE is the DOOR to LIFE itself.

                    YHWH, as MESSIAH YESHUA, died on the evening that ISRAEL kills the lamb for the PASSOVER FEAST.
                    YHWH, as MESSIAH YESHUA, rose on the DAY of FIRSTFRUITS.
                    YHWH's HOLY SPIRIT came to earth on the DAY of the FEAST of WEEKS.

                    My YHWH tells me that out of all these unbelieving jews and christians a remnant will be SAVED.
                    The TRUE ISRAEL.

                    And this TRUE ISRAEL will be taken to the only LAND that was promised to OUR FATHERS AB'RA'HAM, Y'SAAC and YA'ACOV.

                    And when WE arrive in the land, there will be one day of mourning for the ONE that was "pierced" (killed) for US.

                    After that day, WE as YHWH's HOLY BODY, here on earth, will move and be seen by this world and this world will hate US. The things that will be done as YHWH's PRESENCE on this earth are amazing.

                    But, after OUR time of PROPHESYING, the leader of this world will overtake US and kill US. The world will not bury US and WE will lay in the streets for three and one half days. The world will celebrate the whole time.

                    After 3 1/2 days, which is the fourth day (I believe the DAY of the FEAST of YHWH's HORN) at the last horn sounding, YHWH's VOICE will sound and say, "COME UP HERE!!!!!!!"
                    Life will come into HIS BODY and WE, YHWH's PEOPLE, will rise in a cloud with the eyes of the world seeing US rise.

                    This is YHWH's PLAN for HIS ISRAEL.
                    HE will gather ISRAEL from all the earth.
                    HE will gather ISRAEL from the earth.

                    ONE GOD+ONE SPIRIT+ONE PEOPLE=ONE.
                    WE are ONE!!!
                    The BODY of MESSIAH Ministry

                    I did not CREATE YOU for a certain time.
                    I CREATED YOU for ETERNITY.
                    I CREATED YOU for ME.
                    That is why I SAVED YOU.
                    For ME.

                    YOUR HUSBAND,
                    YHSHWH

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      To many thieves, to many false prophets!

                      ...Israelthebride, you need to let go of the christian end times prophecies. It will only bring you to shame. It is a mirror that reflects what is in the heart of many, and what they will allow in the names of their Gd's. I think modern day prophecy is more like a test to prove ones true nature.

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                      1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

                      --> (Isa. 44: 22 presents a blanket parden given to YHWH's people. It is granted at the end of the Babylonian captivity. (Isa. 44: 28) The x-tians like to denigh this pardon which was given to the JEWish people, for obvious -a-tian docturnal reasons).

                      2 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith YHWH of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.

                      3 And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, (*Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies*) in the name of the YHWH: and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth.

                      --> Very deep hatred of the prophets, is shown by these verses.

                      4 And it shall come to pass (*in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision*), when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive:

                      --> He will not clothe himself like a prophet.

                      5 But he shall say, (*I am no prophet*), I am an husbandman; for man taught me (*to keep cattle*) from my youth.

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                      ...In their shame, these prophets denign that they are prophets, because of the prophecies they have told. They would rather be known as common laborers, then as prophets. The wounds spoken of, in these verses have nothing to do with (jesus), rather they are the ritual cuts that mark the prophets bodies, being alibied away. We can be grateful that YHWH is more righteous than his prophets show with their visions.


                      Israelthebride says; HE did not kill the man and woman for their sin, though their action called for it.

                      He did indeed kill them. They are dead. Most people that ever lived, are dead. The rest are awaiting death.

                      Israelthebride says; YHWH, in HIS LOVE for HIS PEOPLE/the LOST of ISRAEL, came as MESSIAH YESHUA to take the place of that LAMB and to take death out of HIS CREATION.

                      --> (jesus) conquers death like he redeems his people. The liar tells the lie, and if it's good enough, people believe the lie. He even claims the throne of YHWH? -tsk, -tsk


                      Israelthebride says; No one can deny that YHWH killed an animal to get the skin for the man and the woman.

                      No one can denigh that YHWH created cities for people who did not exist either.

                      17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and (*he builded a city*), and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. (a big city?) Gen. 4: 17

                      14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that (*every one*) that findeth me shall slay me. (who is everyone?) Gen. 4: 14

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                      The author didn't want to fudge details. He wanted to get on with his story. You're mining for things that are not a part of the story.

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                      Israelthebride says; My YHWH tells me that out of all these unbelieving jews and christians a remnant will be SAVED.

                      Why only a remnant? Doesn't it say that all Israel will be saved?

                      24 Surely, shall one say, in YHWH have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.

                      25 In YHWH shall (*all the seed of Israel*) be justified, and shall glory. Isa. 45: 25

                      21 Thy people also shall be (*all righteous*): they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. Isa. 60: 21

                      --> YHWH is big on blanket pardons. This was his way from the beginning. Of course, this doesn't do (jesus) any good, as he wants to be the only door. When you're the only door, you can charge a higher rate. You can even leave out the people whose house you are parting out. So he returns as a thief? I could have told you so.

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                      Israelthebride says; And this TRUE ISRAEL will be taken to the only LAND that was promised to OUR FATHERS AB'RA'HAM, Y'SAAC and YA'ACOV.

                      You sound like a thief yourself. Which Israel are you talking about? There is only one JEWish people in this world. Are you one of those who has indignation against the holy covenant? { if it walks like a duck and quakes like a duck?} How in this world, will you make peace with YHWH's name? It will hiss at you constantly.

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                      Israelthebride says; But, after OUR time of PROPHESYING, the leader of this world will overtake US and kill US. The world will not bury US and WE will lay in the streets for three and one half days. The world will celebrate the whole time.

                      After 3 1/2 days, which is the fourth day (I believe the DAY of the FEAST of YHWH's HORN) at the last horn sounding, YHWH's VOICE will sound and say, "COME UP HERE!!!!!!!"
                      Life will come into HIS BODY and WE, YHWH's PEOPLE, will rise in a cloud with the eyes of the world seeing US rise.

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                      This is your master plan? I think that you had better take to tending cattle. The prophets have gone bezerk!

                      Baruch Hashem. I'm thankful that there is a name, to help us sort out this mess. ....Michael

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        The FOUNTAIN is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE.

                        MICHAEL:
                        ...Israelthebride, you need to let go of the christian end times prophecies. It will only bring you to shame.

                        The christians don't believe what I write and neither do the jews.
                        It doesn't change that it still YHWH's PLAN according to YHWH's WORD.
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                        YHWH's WORD through MICHAEL:
                        1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

                        I know the FOUNTAIN of ISRAEL, personally. HE, YHWH, is the only SAVIOR.

                        PS 18:46 YHWH lives! Praise be to my ROCK!
                        Exalted be YHWH, my GOD, my SAVIOR!
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                        MICHAEL:
                        --> He will not clothe himself like a prophet.

                        5 But he shall say, (*I am no prophet*), I am an husbandman; for man taught me (*to keep cattle*) from my youth.

                        I clothe myself in the SALVATION of YHWH, my SAVIOR.
                        HE has chosen HIS PEOPLE and HIS PEOPLE know HIM, listen to HIM, and follow HIM and HIS WAYs.
                        This PEOPLE are ISRAEL.
                        No one, jew or christian, is with YHWH because they are jew or christian.
                        YHWH's PEOPLE are with YHWH because HE has chosen them and they in turn have submitted to HIS HOLY SPIRIT and HIS WORD.
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                        MICHAEL:
                        --> (jesus) conquers death like he redeems his people. The liar tells the lie, and if it's good enough, people believe the lie. He even claims the throne of YHWH? -tsk, -tsk

                        I will be your WITNESS, that you said this in ignorance.
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                        MICHAEL:
                        No one can denigh that YHWH created cities for people who did not exist either.

                        17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and (*he builded a city*), and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. (a big city?) Gen. 4: 17

                        14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that (*every one*) that findeth me shall slay me. (who is everyone?) Gen. 4: 14

                        Again, I will be your WITNESS. You don't know; don't make fun of what you don't know or understand.
                        If you read something in YHWH's WORD and it don't make sense, you are reading it as you, at your level of understanding.
                        YHWH's WORD is written at YHWH's level. One cannot see or imagine the space between GOD level and human level.
                        Ask YHWH for HIS WISDOM, like SHLO'MO, and things will be different.
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                        MICHAEL:
                        Israelthebride says; My YHWH tells me that out of all these unbelieving jews and christians a remnant will be SAVED.

                        Why only a remnant? Doesn't it say that all Israel will be saved?


                        YHWH's WORD means that only a remnant of all who are called to be SAVED will be SAVED.
                        Many are called, but only a remnant chooses to be SAVED.
                        This remnant is all of ISRAEL.

                        ISA 10:20 In that day the remnant of ISRAEL,
                        the survivors of the house of JACOB,
                        will no longer rely on him
                        who struck them down
                        but will truly rely on YHWH,
                        the HOLY ONE of ISRAEL.

                        ISA 10:21 A remnant will return, a remnant of JACOB
                        will return to YHWH.

                        ISA 10:22 Though your people, O ISRAEL, be like the sand by the sea,
                        only a remnant will return.
                        Destruction has been decreed,
                        overwhelming and righteous.


                        ISA 11:10 In that day the ROOT of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and HIS place of rest will be glorious. 11 In that day YHWH will reach out HIS HAND a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of HIS PEOPLE from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.

                        ISA 11:12 HE will raise a banner for the nations
                        and gather the exiles of ISRAEL;
                        HE will assemble the scattered people of YEHUDAH
                        from the four quarters of the earth.

                        ISA 11:13 EPHRAIM's jealousy will vanish,
                        and YEHUDAH's enemies will be cut off;
                        EPHRAIM will not be jealous of YEHUDAH,
                        nor YEHUDAH hostile toward EPHRAIM
                        .

                        ISA 11:14 They will swoop down on the slopes of Philistia to the west;
                        together they will plunder the people to the east.
                        They will lay hands on Edom and Moab,
                        and the Ammonites will be subject to them
                        .

                        ISA 11:15 YHWH will dry up
                        the gulf of the Egyptian sea;
                        with a scorching wind HE will sweep HIS HAND
                        over the Euphrates River.
                        HE will break it up into seven streams
                        so that men can cross over in sandals.

                        ISA 11:16 This will be a highway for the remnant of HIS PEOPLE
                        that is left from Assyria,
                        as there was for ISRAEL
                        when they came up from Egypt
                        .

                        ISA 12:1 In that day you will say:

                        "I will praise you, O YHWH.
                        Although YOU were angry with me,
                        YOUR anger has turned away
                        and YOU have comforted me.

                        ISA 12:2 Surely YHWH, my GOD, is my SALVATION;
                        I will trust and not be afraid.
                        YHWH, YHWH, is my strength and my song;
                        HE has become my SALVATION."


                        JER 23:1 "Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of MY pasture!" declares YHWH. 2 Therefore this is what YHWH, the GOD of ISRAEL, says to the shepherds who tend MY PEOPLE: "Because you have scattered MY flock and driven them away and have not bestowed care on them, I will bestow punishment on you for the evil you have done," declares YHWH. 3 "I myself will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and will bring them back to their pasture, where they will be fruitful and increase in number. 4 I will place shepherds over them who will tend them, and they will no longer be afraid or terrified, nor will any be missing," declares YHWH.

                        JER 23:5 "The days are coming," declares YHWH,
                        "when I will raise up to David, a righteous BRANCH,
                        a King who will reign wisely
                        and do what is just and right in the land.

                        JER 23:6 In HIS days YEHUDAH will be saved
                        and ISRAEL will live in safety.
                        This is the NAME by which HE will be called:
                        YHWH Our Righteousness.

                        JER 50:20 In those days, at that time,"
                        declares YHWH,
                        "search will be made for ISRAEL's guilt,
                        but there will be none,
                        and for the sins of YEHUDAH,
                        but none will be found,
                        for I will forgive the remnant I spare.


                        MIC 2:10 Get up, go away!
                        For this is not your resting place,
                        because it is defiled,
                        it is ruined, beyond all remedy.

                        MIC 2:11 If a liar and deceiver comes and says,
                        `I will prophesy for you plenty of wine and beer,'
                        he would be just the prophet for this people!

                        MIC 2:12 "I will surely gather all of you, O JACOB;
                        I will surely bring together the remnant of ISRAEL.
                        I will bring them together like sheep in a pen,
                        like a flock in its pasture;
                        the place will throng with people.

                        MIC 2:13 One who breaks open the way will go up before them;
                        they will break through the gate and go out.
                        Their KING will pass through before them,
                        YHWH as their HEAD."


                        ZEC 8:6 This is what Almighty YHWH says: "It may seem marvelous to the remnant of this people at that time, but will it seem marvelous to me?" declares Almighty YHWH.

                        ZEC 8:7 This is what Almighty YHWH says: "I will SAVE MY PEOPLE from the countries of the east and the west. 8 I will bring them back to live in YERU'SHALOM; they will be MY PEOPLE, and I will be FAITHFUL and RIGHTEOUS to them as their GOD."

                        ZEC 8:9 This is what Almighty YHWH says: "You who now hear these words spoken by the prophets who were there when the FOUNDATION was laid for the HOUSE of Almighty YHWH, let your hands be strong so that MY TEMPLE may be built. 10 Before that time there were no wages for man or beast. No one could go about his business safely because of his enemy, for I had turned every man against his neighbor. 11 But now I will not deal with the remnant of this people as I did in the past," declares Almighty YHWH.

                        ZEC 8:12 "The seed will grow well, the vine will yield its fruit, the ground will produce its crops, and the heavens will drop their dew. I will give all these things as an inheritance to the remnant of this people. 13 As you have been an object of cursing among the nations, O YEHUDAH and ISRAEL, so will I SAVE YOU, and YOU will be a blessing. Do not be afraid, but let your hands be strong."
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                        YHWH has HIS PLAN.
                        It is not a jewish plan nor a christian plan.

                        YHWH's PLAN SAVES HIS PEOPLE, ISRAEL (YEHUDAH and EPHRAIM and all the Tribes under them).
                        If you are called, choose, now, who you will follow.
                        YHWH's PLAN or what you want to believe.
                        Don't lose your birthright like Essau.

                        ONE GOD+ONE SPIRIT+ONE BODY=ONE

                        WE are ONE!!!
                        LOVE,
                        RICOEL
                        The BODY of MESSIAH Ministry

                        I did not CREATE YOU for a certain time.
                        I CREATED YOU for ETERNITY.
                        I CREATED YOU for ME.
                        That is why I SAVED YOU.
                        For ME.

                        YOUR HUSBAND,
                        YHSHWH

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Comfort my people?

                          1 Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.

                          2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and (*cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished*), that (*her iniquity is pardoned*): for she hath received of the YHWH's hand double for all her sins.

                          3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the YHWH, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

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                          ...We need to examin this pardon and see when it occurs. "Her warfare is now ended" suggests that (she, --> Jerusalem {Yahudah}) has just concluded her warfare, which was her punishment. Her iniquity "NOW" is pardoned. This is for all who remain of "Her". This is also a blanket pardon, as I stated. Now a path in the desert is to be cleared for Her Eloheem to return Her people to Her. (Jerusalem)

                          ...Can we conclude that we are talking about the return from captivity and the pardon given in Isa. 44: 22 in the time of Cyrus? (Isa. 44: 28) If we can, than we can say clearly that this pardon has nothing to do with (jesus). This time is clearly referenced to the conclusion of her transgression. (She is pardoned and her warfare is over)

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                          3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. Mat. 3: 3

                          ...Considering the time of John, this time would be imposible to fit here. This is a time of coming warfare. It is a time of occupation. Now compare the following verses of text. How can they be made to fit?

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                          43 For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,

                          44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation. Lu. 19: 43, 44 (*how does a people who are not to know who the messian is, become guilty for their lack of knowledge?*)

                          27 Howbeit we know this man whence he is: but when Christ cometh, no man knoweth whence he is. Jn. 7: 27

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                          (jesus) speaks contrary to YHWH's command that her transgression is ended. He says that her warefare is still coming. This is not what is supposed to be said. So now you should be able to see that this pardon given to the remnant of Israel precedes (jesus) literally removing him from these texts. The time of (jesus), is not the time of Cyrus. The pardon of the JEWish people precede (jesus) by over 500 years. Now, Isaiah has much more to say about this pardon given to YHWH's people by YHWH. Isaiah's 54TH chapter sets the JEWish people out of the reach of (jesus) being their redeemer. This is already a redeemed people.

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                          7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.

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                          6 I was wroth with my people, I have polluted mine inheritance, and given them into thine hand: thou didst shew them no mercy; upon the ancient hast thou very heavily laid thy yoke. Isa. 47: 6
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                          8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with (*everlasting kindness*) will I have mercy on thee, saith YHWH thy Redeemer.

                          9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that (*I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee*).

                          10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but (*my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed*), saith YHWH that hath mercy on thee.

                          --> in other words, all the evil that happens to this people is not by YHWH's will.

                          11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and (*not comforted*), {as opposed to comfort my people} behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colours, and lay thy foundations with sapphires.

                          12 And I will make thy windows of agates, and thy gates of carbuncles, and all thy borders of pleasant stones.

                          13 And all thy children shall be taught of YHWH; and great shall be the peace of thy children.

                          14 In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee.

                          15 Behold, (*they shall surely gather together, but not by me*): whosoever shall gather together against thee (*shall fall for thy sake*).

                          16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.

                          17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of YHWH, and their righteousness is of me, saith YHWH. Isa. 54: 7 - 17

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                          ...There is an everlasting pardon granted to YHWH's people by YHWH, himself. He says that he is his peoples righteousness. I believe him. But who is (jesus)? He doesn't deliver his people. He doesn't end their warfare. He doesn't build Jerusalem into anything that YHWH has promised. A messiah mus be a messiah. (jesus) is not a redeemer of his people. He is instead a messiah for the worlds people. Instead of being a blessing to the JEWish people, he becomes their curse. Consider the judgement of this man for (*this generation*) which he curses.

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                          35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

                          36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

                          37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

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                          ...First, he doesn't know his Zechariahs. Zacharias the son of Barachias is the prophet Zechariah. Zech. 1: 1 This Zechariah is not killed by the Jerusalemites at all! Neither do the Pharisee's plot against him. The Zacharias that the author is talking about can be found in II Chr. 24: 20.

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                          20 And the Spirit of God came upon Zechariah the son of Jehoiada the priest, which stood above the people, and said unto them, Thus saith God, Why transgress ye the commandments of YHWH, that ye cannot prosper? because ye have forsaken YHWH, he hath also forsaken you.

                          21 And they conspired against him, and stoned him with stones at the commandment of the king in the court of the house of YHWH.

                          22 Thus Joash the king remembered not the kindness which Jehoiada his father had done to him, but slew his son. And when he died, he said, YHWH look upon it, and require it. II Chr. 24: 20 - 22

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                          ...Now, how are the accused guilty of killing these priests? This is solely the sin of Joash. Aren't we faced with a corrupt judge, in this matter? Such a judge doesn't comfort the people and tell them that their warfare is over, nor does he redeem his people. Why doesn't this man know the name of his Eloheem? John's seventeenth chapter implies that he has made the name of YHWH known to his followers. But no where does the text of the NT even use the letters (YHWH). Instead, the book of Acts declares,

                          10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that (*by the name of Jesus Christ*) of Nazareth, (*whom ye crucified*), whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

                          11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Ref. Ps. 118: 22 It is the name of YHWH that is rejected. --> Ps. 118: 26

                          12 (*Neither is there salvation in any other?*): for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (*this is contrary to the words of Isaiah.*)

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                          ...as to the rejected stone, it is the stone with the name of Yahudah upon it. (Ex. 28: 21) It is the name of YHWH, that is rejected. If (jesus) had taught that the tribe of Yahudah was chosen to bear YHWH's name, this people might have had the strength to resist the eternal accuser of their name. They could have been the good guys, and not called the killers of the messiah.

                          ...And if (jesus) is the great deciever, you can never find out because you do not read what is said in the tanakh, but rather what you want to read. I know this for sure, those who are decieved are all believers! Instead of waiting for the deception, maybe you should look around and see what the believers, believe. It could be that they don't care about the people of YHWH at all.

                          ....Michael

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                          • #14
                            A Great PLAN!

                            Hi Israelthebride,

                            In the words of AntotiYAH, AWESOME! May you continue to be blessed through the blessing that you have just set forth in your last post.

                            I would ask you several questions which go back to a previous post. These questions are designed to bring forth your thinking about the Land promised to the Fathers:
                            • Is the Land to which we are gathered by the Good Shepherd physical Palestine?
                            • Are the dead bodies lying in the streets physical dead bodies?
                            • Are the streets of the city physical streets?
                            I must now set forth this word of disagreement. All men including the YAHUDIM are to be blamed for the death of Messiah Yahushua. All are guilty because all are sinners.

                            Thank you so much for the gracious and controlled manner in which you conduct yourself.

                            Thummin, my brother, you know my heart, and you know that I do love you and the YAHUDIM. I want to commend you for your patience with us. We will be all the better friends through our struggles to understand each other.

                            Sincerely, Spying
                            The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                            • #15
                              YHWH's WAYs/YHWH's Timing

                              MICHAEL, my FRIEND,
                              YHWH speaks, always, as where WE stand with HIM. HE never places HIS BLESSINGS or FORGIVENESS according the "world" times/timing. When HE SAYs WE are warring it means against HIM. That is why HE makes things happen.

                              ISA 45:21 Declare what is to be, present it--
                              let them take counsel together.
                              Who foretold this long ago,
                              who declared it from the distant past?
                              Was it not I, YHWH?
                              And there is no GOD apart from ME,
                              a righteous GOD and a SAVIOR;
                              there is none but ME.

                              ISA 45:22 "Turn to ME and be SAVED,
                              all you ends of the earth;
                              for I AM GOD, and there is no other.


                              Whenever HE mentions "world" events, it is because HE is arranging them and is warning HIS PEOPLE what HE is doing. WE, HIS PEOPLE, are weak and frighten easily. WE always wonder why YHWH is not doing this and not doing that. HE explains it all in HIS WORD. Listen to HIM!!!

                              MICHAEL, you say that Isaiah 54:7-17 has already happened.

                              ISA 54:11 "O afflicted city, lashed by storms and not comforted,
                              I will build you with stones of turquoise,
                              your foundations with sapphires.

                              ISA 54:12 I will make your battlements of rubies,
                              your gates of sparkling jewels,
                              and all your walls of precious stones.

                              Where is this building with these gates and walls?

                              YHWH is talking of, after HIS FORGIVENESS, the NEW YERU'SHALOM.


                              MICHAEL, Zechariah the son of Jehoiada did die where YHWH's WORD SAYs he did.

                              20 And the Spirit of God came upon Zechariah the son of Jehoiada the priest, which stood above the people, and said unto them, Thus saith God, Why transgress ye the commandments of YHWH, that ye cannot prosper? because ye have forsaken YHWH, he hath also forsaken you.

                              21 And they conspired against him, and stoned him with stones at the commandment of the king in the court of the house of YHWH.

                              MICHAEL, you tell me. Where and how did Zacharias the son of Barachias die? Prove that MESSIAH YAH'SHUA does not know how he died.
                              The jews weren't too keen on him, either.


                              MICHAEL, YEHUDAH does bear the NAME OF YHWH.
                              In fact they bore YHWH's SALVATION.
                              YAH'SHUA of the Tribe of DAVID, YEHUDAH.

                              YHWH is our SALVATION!!!


                              YAH'SHUA was either a crazy man

                              MT 9:14 Then John's disciples came and asked HIM, "How is it that we and the Pharisees fast, but YOUR DISCIPLEs do not fast?"

                              MT 9:15 YAH'SHUA answered, "How can the guests of the BRIDEGROOM mourn while HE is with them? The time will come when the BRIDEGROOM will be taken from them; then they will fast.

                              or HE was YHWH.

                              YHWH is ISRAEL's BRIDEGROOM.

                              WE are ONE!!!
                              The BODY of MESSIAH Ministry

                              I did not CREATE YOU for a certain time.
                              I CREATED YOU for ETERNITY.
                              I CREATED YOU for ME.
                              That is why I SAVED YOU.
                              For ME.

                              YOUR HUSBAND,
                              YHSHWH

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