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    Shalom Rovivrus, and all... Yah be with you forever and ever!

    If you have your bible handy, go ahead and open to Song of Sol.(sos) chapter one, to compare with.

    The "carnal scriptures" are our "milk". Knowing what they say to begin with, causes our understanding to increase "Later". The Bible is like our "mothers breasts"(Old & new test) Notice womens breasts, one is always "bigger" then the other. (laugh). But the "nutrition" is not.
    Both have same nutrition. But a baby must be nursed from BOTH breasts, as when the child nurses on "one" too long... the milk dries up. "here a little, there a little" is how we learn AND line up the scriptures. As we see Yah "straighten" the crooked paths, before our eyes.

    We "nurse" from theses breasts. And from them we receive the "nutrients" and the "immune" system we need to survive and fight off desease. At some point we must be "weaned" from our "mothers milk" or the "carnal understanding" of the
    scriptures. And our "food" transforms into something stronger.

    Spying, I think our mother is the "Word". The physical written word taken on a fleshly basis, could be the whore. The physical word "transformed" into the spiritual word, becomes the Bride, undefiled that He seeks. ?
    ("think" about it, and then tell me; what think thou O brother of mine? smile)

    Song of Solomon (SOS) Chapter One

    I believe we are in the "time"(season) of the "Bride".
    When Yah is "making man in His own Image".
    (6th.day/ 6000th. yr.)
    When the Husband leaves his father and mother and clings unto his bride, And they become One Flesh.

    Song of Solomon is a wedding song between Yah and His bride.
    Solomon means; "peace". Yahshua is the "prince of Peace".
    It is the wedding song of Peace. For Yahshua did promise "rest unto our souls".
    For all that "come unto Him, and Learn of Him". Is that not what a bride does unto her husband? come unto Him.. "learn of Him", and receive OF Him?

    Song of Solomon 1:2 Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine. (I have put my words in thy mouth,..." Is. 51:16) And >

    Isaiah 6:7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.

    1:4 Draw me, we will run after thee: the king hath brought me into his chambers: we will be glad and rejoice in thee, we will remember thy love more than wine: the upright love thee.

    (When one sees that "only" Yah can cause us to "walk upright", and we pray according to this, and He "re makes" us according to this, truly; "the upright LOVE Him.")

    As we know;
    "No man may come unto the Father Lest he be Called".

    "DRAW ME" and >> WE << shall "run after" >> THEE! For Yah does "draw us", and by His awakening "in us" > WE;
    (HE & US) run after HIM. For He "goes before us".

    When He "brings us into HIS chambers", He reveals Himself to us, therefore we have had an "intamacy", and we rejoice. (Not unlike we do in the flesh, when we first have intimacy to one we have sought after. but the flesh wears old, and falls away... His spirit... never.)

    1:5 I am black(covered with pitch; Yahs covering), but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar(dark), as the curtains(veils) of Solomon.

    I used to think "black" was "sin". (for we are "shapen in iniquity") but it's not "just sin". Moses was "covered" with bull pitch and slime. at "3 mos. old". I believe this to be, though Moses would live as an "egyptian" he was already ordained to "draw" Yahs people to Him. For the "law" does this very thing. IT is through the law pointing out our sin that brings us back to Him. or to "Talk to Him", so that His Work "in us", shall be fulfilled.

    1:6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.

    Look not upon me because I am "covered". Because the "sun"(word/maker) has "looked upon me".(made me) My mothers children (those who cling to the physical litteral word) were angry with me(jealous) and "made me keeper of the vinyards". (demanded she "keep their way"/ litteral physical word/way.)

    "But MY OWN vineyard have I not kept". (it is not of me)

    1:7 Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth, where thou feedest, where thou makest thy flock to rest at noon(high day/brightest light/understanding): for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions?

    "why should I be left out?"

    1:8 If thou know not, O thou fairest among women, go thy way forth by the footsteps of the flock, and feed thy kids(young female goats) beside(according to) the shepherds' tents.(tabernacle/dwelling place.)

    the "word" beside is more properlay translated; "according to"/ "upon" / on the ground of / on behalf of. It CAN be "beside", but I do not think they mean "beside" like we do. It would be more like a "yoke". "side by side" kind of thing.

    And the word "tents" is "dwelling place" or tabernacle. SO... If you don't think you should be left out... go forth by the footsteps of the flock(written in the bible) and feed thy goats(stubberness that comes from us) according to HIS 'dwelling place': ie;
    "I am meek and lowly".

    1:9 I have compared thee, O my love, to a company of horses in Pharaoh's chariots. (very powerful and grand; "leading the way" for the vessels/chariots)

    1:10 Thy cheeks are comely with rows of jewels, thy neck with chains of gold.

    Yah tells us to "seek His face".

    Psalm 27:8 When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, Yah, will I seek.

    This bride has done this, and has found that His "cheeks"(his smile; i think) are beautiful, and "rows" or even; (not a crooked smile) and his "neck"(will) is a chain; (yoke).

    1:11 We will make thee borders of gold with studs of silver.

    "We" (Yah and i/ Yah and u) > "will make thee" (unto him) "borders" (ends of His domain/ in all of our being) "of gold" (brilliance/luxery) "with Studs"
    (# 5348; specks/marked with points/ speckled) "OF SILVER" (money/valuable/revelations of Him).

    1:12 While the king sitteth at his table, my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof.

    "My meat is to do the Will of My Father".

    So if it is Yahshuas "meat" to do the will of the Father, then It is the FATHERS "MEAT" as well. so when the "King" sits down at his table, it is to "Do His Will". And while our King "sits" at His Table to "Do His Will" (in us) our spikenard(what we speak/give off) sendeth forth a 'smell' thereof.

    1:13 A bundle of myrrh(Used in sacred oil and perfume) is my wellbeloved unto me(My Creator); he shall lie all night betwixt my breasts. (I think of Him all the time)

    14 My beloved is unto me as a cluster(to bunch togeather. Also "testicle") of "camphire" (# 3724; price of life/Ransom /pitch/covering Also;atonement) in the vineyards of Engedi.(fountain of the Kid)

    I think this is saying "He" is our covering when we are drinking from the fountains or the waters/doctrine of stubborn(I'll do it myself) people.

    1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

    Again... we are "seeking HIS Face". Here the bride tells us of His face, and she says he has DOVES EYES. (Doves are PEACE). He has peaceful eyes! Not mean hateful eyes that we have when we are angry. HE has "doves eyes"!

    As Jonah KNEW, and therefore Knew that Yah would not carry out His threats. As DAVID Knew, and so often spoke of Yahs ENDLESS Mercies. But the "carnal" word/bride, is a whore, and chases after everything BUT Him. So... if we are not seeing "doves eyes" we are not looking at Yahs face. Because This BRIDE Has Told us so!

    Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

    I think it's time to stop "killing" the prophets, and start hearing Isaiah, and Jeremiah, and Zephaniah. They all tell us, He is the Potter, we are the clay. And they/we threw "stones"(laws) at them. Which point out fleshly sin.

    Psalm 17:8 Keep me as the apple of the eye(what you are working on), hide me under the shadow of thy wings,

    Psalm 57:1 Be merciful unto me, O Yah, be merciful unto me: for my soul trusteth in thee: yea, in the shadow of thy wings will I make my refuge, until these calamities be overpast.

    Song of Solomon 1:16 Behold, thou art fair, my beloved, yea, pleasant: also our bed is green.

    When Yah shows himself unto Us. When we receive revelations or understandings of HIM. He has taken us "into His chambers" and our "bed" (Intimacy) is GREEN (life).

    1:17 The beams of our house(faith) are cedar
    (cedar wood is used in purifications), and
    our rafters(boards) of fir.(Pine tree, forever green, never dying)

    This is the end of Chapter One.

    May Yah bless His bride.

    Love,
    d'
    "At that day
    shall a man look to his Maker,
    and his eyes shall have respect
    to the Holy One of Israel."
    Isaiah 17:7

  • #2
    song of Solomon [peace]

    these beautifull words... have to LIFT off the pages and BECOME a living reality within our persona....
    how shall u do this?
    do you know?
    otherwise they remain....only beautifull words....
    this world is filled with beautifull words....people write lovely things that appeal to our hearts... yet.... this world is in the grossest darkness, not happened since Noahs times.....beautifull words help no-one...
    ONLY Jesus Christ holy Spirit WHO LIFTS THEM FROM the pages and places them as living reality within the heart.....
    who do u walk IN these beautifull words????
    reality-wise that is?
    do u know how?
    do not be yoked to an unbeliever

    - Do not let our Spiritual man [ the believer] to be unevenly yoked any longer our 5 senses soul [ the unbeliever]

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    • #3
      Ladylucysmith-

      You asked, in response to DeAnna's post:

      "Do u know how"?

      I am not ashamed to say that I don't know.

      So, I ask:

      Do you know how?
      If so, would you mind sharing your knowledge?

      Sincerely,
      Rovivrus
      "Recognizing the impersonality of law, the survivor is to some degree relieved of the personal burden of battle. It is the law, not she, that must prevail."

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      • #4
        song of Solomon [peace]

        yes...
        i do know how...
        i love His word... and once when i used to read it.... it was so good but so far away...
        i hated that...
        because i wished to be with HIM, living where His word is active and living and abundant...
        i did not like how i lived...dull...and pathetic and powerless.....
        when the bible promised a believer so much more...
        i was jealous of Daniel and Moses and Esther and Apostles all the heros of faith... i envied them and how they had lived their life for their times....like i was now living in my time... these people did what was necessary..... so i too... was living in a time.. and i wanted to KNOW HIM.
        the beautifull words typed in the,pages...where just that...
        they were there and i was here and there was a chasm between.
        so,.
        i asked the HOLY SPIRIT please teach me... your way...to make it ALIVE and active and robust and living reality within me.
        12 yrs that was ago...
        and it is a walk...it is one step at a time and the 1st step is the hardest....
        but...
        the 1st step is filled with grace.... and off u go...
        do u know what it is too BUNGIE jump..?
        thats what u have to decide to do...
        if u do not know...
        it is a sport...to jump from a very high cliff... and launch out into the air... with all that holds u is an rubber elastic band tied to your anckles...so u dive into the air... and suspended in the air u are.. the earth and the air between u and nothing is there to help u.... accept the rubber band...this is likened to complete surrender...God being likened to the rubber band....this is a stupid example... but effective for teaching...
        this is the 1st step in real living the real life in CHRIST...
        in the middle of the whole bible is this verse...ps.118.v.8. says...this.
        ''it is better to TRUST in God, than to put confidence in man..''
        this is THE COMMAND...
        it is not an option...
        to walk with God in all the flowing blessings and in HIS WORLD... surrender is the entrance fee... to GIVE UP our lives... that He may live.
        i did... and am still doing it...
        we have to OBEY.. it is a command....
        it matters NOT, IF WE FEEL like it or not i have to obey....
        you have to LOOK at everything u see... and I MEAN looooook...
        when u see this with your heart EVERYTHING and i mean everything is governed by lies.... falseness and pretending..
        this world is fake and lairs abound...accept this...
        now..
        we as a believer HAVE TO COME OUT OF, anything FALSE...
        for we are NOT of this world.. but surjourners.
        now...
        YOU HAVE TO TAKE A STAND ASKING THE LORD FOR HIS HELP ALWAYSSSSSSSSSS.....ESSENTIAL..... and u have to MOVE OUT from your life into.. HIS LIFE...where HOLINESS is the corner stone...
        now..GRACE abounds...grace gets us thru.. NOT OURSELF. cont.
        do not be yoked to an unbeliever

        - Do not let our Spiritual man [ the believer] to be unevenly yoked any longer our 5 senses soul [ the unbeliever]

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        • #5
          song of Solomon [peace]

          cont...
          Jesus Christ WANTS believers WHO actually do and believe what He says... He does NOT want our advice on ''how He should run things''. He is KING He paid the price for our loyality. it is a believer responsibility to learn to '' DO AS HE TELLS US thru His word''.. it is the greatest advice book ever wriiten BUT only for believers...the ''others'' cannot understand for it is supernatural.
          James says ''BE DOERS'' of the Word.
          now...
          when u start to DO....this is when the supernatural ability arrives.
          BUT, many times for some strange reason it DOES NOT LOOK like it...it is LIKE GOD HIDES HIMSELF...waiting to see what u will do... NOW it is NOT that at all.. BUT it only seems this way ok......
          at 1st ''it looks like it does NOT work'' BUT it is WORKING.......in John 14.v.21-23... get these verse well established within you...
          know them like a parrot...
          the next one i found was a success was 'math 11.v.28-30...
          these 2 are SUPREME verses... get to know HOW TO USE THEM.. ask to receive...
          it is all ABOUT submission....
          it is all about submission
          NOT YOUR WAY.. BUT Gods way...
          called the narrow way that FEW FIND.
          the narrow way strips all the evil and the bondages from us... all the hatefull habits and evil imaginations and lust and flesh things... the fear and the stupid ideas that never work. one by one you are dealt with by God remembering it is YOU God is after NOT ''the others''.. let them be for it is only ever YOU AND GOD.
          personal....dont look at other people as your measuring line LOOK TO Jesus Christ. God will deal with all your dross... when u go thru tests and trials it is FOR U TO LEARN... and to CHOOSE the correct choice...
          as example...
          you may want to steal from a shop...
          the devil has u in bondage to being a thief...
          but... u have to chose WILL I STEAL or obey. for the word of Gods says ''thou shall not steal''...
          if u chose to steal.... and regret it.. ask for forgiveness BUT i will pay the rpice but go around the mountain agian and shall be tested and tested over it.. TILL YOU SAY..
          NO...
          ''get thee behind me satan''.. i am NOT going to steal.... now...
          the area what was a spot.. now contains HIM and christ is being formed within you...
          dont take this personal.. it is just a teaching for i am sure u are NOT a thief.. ok....i did it as example.
          it is called overcoming and there are many many things to tempt us and kill us BUT GRACE ABOUNDS.....oh grace is a wonderfull thngs...
          the object of all of this is to make u into HIS IMAGE...and this is the way God has chosen to do it...
          now... this denying of self KILLS the adamic nature...
          until after all these tests and trials.. we can say with Jesus Christ ''SATAN YOU HAVE NOTHING ON ME''
          the object is to get u to worship GOD how He wants not how u think He wants.. He wants PURE hearts and bravehearts and lovers and people to have friendship with NOT....
          THE LOCAL WITCH and her coven....
          NOT THE HARLOT... BUT THE BRIDE OF HIS HEART.......the little lady [men and women] who do as they are told...
          now.. IF
          you can do this\you shall be THE MOST BLESSEDDDDDDDDDD OF PEOPLE...
          remembering FEW, FEW find eternal life.......
          the test the supernatural living comes when we obey..HIS WORD, even if all looks lost and tragic...thats the lie in operation... LOOK to the AUTHOR... who WILL FINISH U...
          exactly like He wanted...learn TO DO.... AS U ARE TOLD... = LIMITLESS LIVING... and every blessing abounding.
          do not be yoked to an unbeliever

          - Do not let our Spiritual man [ the believer] to be unevenly yoked any longer our 5 senses soul [ the unbeliever]

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          • #6
            Dove Eyes!

            Hi DeAnna,

            Peace to you, Little Sister, on this Sabbath morning. I am up as the cock crows in order to write to you.

            You are definitely correct about the "Word" being the "Mother". It is her water that we are immersed in until we are born as her children. She is the virtuous woman of the Scriptures, and she is Messiah Yahushua. Everyone concentrates on Messiah being the Son; few recognize that HE is also the Mother.

            This woman does have two breasts as you have noted by the spirit. This woman also has two hands. There are some things that remain hidden from the left hand of this woman (I think that you are on the right track about the unvirtuous woman). This woman has two eyes. This woman has two ears. This woman has two nostrils. This woman has two ovaries, but only one womb. This woman has one body, one tongue and voice, and one spirit. Why do you think that this woman has two of many parts?

            This milk of this woman is some very simple actions listed in Hebrews 5:12--6:8. We drink in the milk when we repent of our sins and begin to believe and have faith in the Gospel. Milk is being baptized and participating in foot washing. Milk is receiving the laying on of hands after we arise from our baptism. Milk is the firm conviction that evil has been judged as evil because we want no part in any deliberate slaying of Messiah through premeditated sin in our future. All these actions are the milk which we are privileged to first drink, but milk can only carry us so far in our quest for perfection. So, we do need meat, solid food. This is not intellectual understandings of doctrine. This is spiritual righteousness which we must also learn to eat. It is through doing certain things that we go on to perfection.

            In my life, my decision to repent and keep the Sabbath Day, was a bungee jump for me. I took the plunge that the Elect Lady speaks about. This plunge was milk. Obviously, we can live on milk. We can constantly be repenting (going back to the breast and taking the plunge again) in our lives until we are moved to eat solid meat. The eating of solid food does not seem the same to me as taking the plunge of repentance. It can be scary, but it is much more deliberate, very chewy. Solid food is the doing of spiritual righteousness. It is the fulfillment of the spiritual righteousness which is the very basis of the Love of Messiah for us. You food is your spiritual work. I wrote concerning this work of our hands in the symbols of footwashing. Notice that it is the responsibility of the Body to feed the sheep both milk and solid food; hence, feed my sheep as commanded by Messiah to Peter. If eating is doing, which I am not sure that you accept, DeAnna, then in order to feed others, we must be doers of the Word and not just hearers or learners of the Word.

            I am taken by HIS dove eyes. This means that HIS woman will have the same.

            Love, Spying
            The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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            • #7
              song of Solomon [peace]

              doers.... of the WORD...
              thats the secret of getting the blessings.
              doers... not talkers not teachers and readers... BUT DOERS.
              FEW know how to DO.......
              we have to pass thru ''the contradictions''.. into the invisible.. and the Almighty God does this.. and exercises a believer in a training programme.. HIS WAY [never mens]..to prepare a believer to fight...to pull down satan...from their lives and then for others benefits.
              to go this way a believer has to follow ONLY Jesus Christ.. u have to get this from Jesus personally...ask to receive and dont stop till u do.....He loves this...for a believer is created to LIVE in His kingdom and so God will work with a believer...then THRU then onto others.
              the person becomes the message...
              Like Jesus Christ the person was the message called truth and life. thats because HE WAS THIS.....His whole being and persona was TRUTH and was LIFE.... and no death was in Him.. [HE GAVE up HIS LIFE].. if he did not he would be alive today 2,000 yrs old person... see death was unable to touch HIM.... and when we FOLLOW HIM, we start on this path to being the message and becoming His image where death and hell is a defeated foe.
              Overcoming it is called and if u read REVs. chapt.2/3.. 7 times the overcomer is mentioned and their rewards are written there as well.... to overcome means to GET THE BETTER OF and thats what a believer has to do and thats what all these tests are all about... overcoming ...''satan u have nothing on me'' is the END PRODUCT... thats means ALIVE IN CHRIST... the final moment...where death is swallowed up in His life and it is finished.
              for the final product has been made called the hope of glory... now.. thats a believer... the truth of the Gospel... going from a sinner with a dreadfull future ...forgiven and repentant.. and then overcoming all things in Christ to be the Hope of Glory and to rule and to reign with Christ....
              from corruption into incorruption a metamoorphoo... CHANGED IN AN ATOM... THATS WHAT THIS WORD MEANS... LIFE so filled up into a believer that death is No more.. His life now possible....
              all men are fallen... powerless and mundane...limited and frustrated, sick and walking in continual death-like trances thinking they are so wonderfull....loveless and sad... depressed and tired...that is what evil does... and then promotes thru its stooges....thats the future...for a sinner... a destroyed future..
              the believer is into another realm... forgiven and repented and growing into His limitless image.............called the kingdom of heaven
              what a choice?
              what a chance?
              there are NO instant replays...........
              is it any wonder the devil mocks such a future, such a promise, .....throws doubts in the mind and jests....oh yes... the angels of darkness with their forked tongue are ever eager to destroy the witness of CHRIST.. now u know why......
              do not be yoked to an unbeliever

              - Do not let our Spiritual man [ the believer] to be unevenly yoked any longer our 5 senses soul [ the unbeliever]

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              • #8
                Ladylucysmith,

                I thank you for your reply. I have found great logic in what you have written. Everyone who writes to me here always says something in which I find personal meaning. You said:
                “it is one step at a time and the 1st step is the hardest.…” You are so right about the first step being the hardest. That is because the first step is to believe. The first step is to let go of an image of your life that you have known thus far. To be so open and brave that you are willing to face fear and uncertainty and confusion.
                You also said:
                ''it is better to TRUST in God, than to put confidence in man.”
                If we are an image and a reflection of Yah, then we must never forget to trust ourselves.
                Also, I do feel that Yah wants us to be submissive to him, and I feel that we achieve this by Not being submissive to Satan.

                And please know that I am not a black and white thinker, I think only in shades of gray, because we are all shades of gray. To think in white is to be blind to black, to think in black is to be blind to white. (I'm not saying this "to" you, I am just stating it).

                I have more to say, but can’t find the words for it right now.
                Please bare with me, I am work in progress.

                Good Day!
                I will attempt to visit with you all later on.
                P.S. Spying, I need time to process what you have given me.
                I am thankful that you have brought up one of the most prevalent coping mechanisms that exists today--denial.

                Your friend,
                Rovivrus
                "Recognizing the impersonality of law, the survivor is to some degree relieved of the personal burden of battle. It is the law, not she, that must prevail."

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                • #9
                  song of Solomon [peace]

                  friend...
                  .look into the lives of the heros of faith within His word......
                  see...they were people like us....yet so different in their thinking and actions.... they were moved on by Almighty God...step at a time.
                  The God of the holy writ MUST be the God of our life....NOT a ''man-made-up-one''...the mere mens gospel does not work...
                  it has to be revealed and personal...intimate.. sitting at the feet only of Jesus Christ...listening and hearing then following.
                  Notice the way God worked with these people....and how they responded to HIM...
                  learn from their experiences to TRUST is a MUST....
                  our whole MIND has to be healed...pray thru for A HEALED MIND....
                  it is like REVERSED thinking...
                  we all have been programmed here, to accept as real, a lie and BUT it is reversed, all we do not see is TRUTH....
                  as example...
                  say u suffer fear...over anything...
                  fear paralyses...fear is from the devil....fear is his intimidation trick...God has allowed this to be so...God could have switched His arm and said NO fear allowed..but He did not.
                  Almighty God has NOT, repeat HAS NOT, given to us a spirit of fear..
                  so...it is a lie...and NOT from God...this is now established..
                  know it, claim it, and live it...
                  if fear strikes...use scriptures...Perfect love casts out all fear...keep saying it till u are blue in the face...IT IS WAR and this is your weapon...the sword of the word ....kill with it... strike with it...use it... and the devil shall flee.. resist....
                  what is now happening is this..
                  the fear within is a spot or a wrinkle this dross is being taken away BY the washing of the word over it, understand me please...
                  ...God cannot use a fearfilled person, notice, it was ''the afraid'' men, the 1st to return home from the choices of men in Gideons army.....it was the FAITHFILLED 300 WHO WON THE BATTLE filled with the Holy Spirit.
                  and so it is the same today...
                  fear is a spot of control...the devil uses it...it has to depart.
                  BUT.. a sound mind...is a mind knowing His word and the living and acting on it...standing in the evil day [eph.6] well equipped for the battle....
                  now....little point i have noticed...
                  when we take up this stand...sometimes NOT always...it appears, in the situation, to GET WORSE..i dont know why this is so...frankly i cannot understand this...BUT..this is what seems to happen...
                  but.DO NOT GIVE UP......stick with it.......dont stop till the answer comes.......thru. or... you are filled with the grace and knowledge to know what to do... when u have stood the test,in full battle array, the LORD SHALL FIGHT for you...
                  i shall tell you a story...
                  this really demonstrates what i am telling... cont....
                  do not be yoked to an unbeliever

                  - Do not let our Spiritual man [ the believer] to be unevenly yoked any longer our 5 senses soul [ the unbeliever]

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                  • #10
                    song of Solomon [peace]

                    little story...
                    there was a man, who had Jesus Christ as saviour..BUT never as LORD...
                    ONE DAY he was so sad and down in the heart, everything was too much for him and he was in great despair...
                    His friend came for a visit...and noticed how sad this man really was...so he asked him ""what is wrong'' and ofcourse the man emptied his heart out filled with sad things and all manner of sin and evil poured out...
                    His friend, cried over him and prayed for him and left...
                    That night, the sad man had a vision a dream...
                    he was laying in the bed...and as he looked up 1/2 awake he saw a huge, grey limp man..dressed in grey and looking so sad...standing near his bed...
                    the sad man got such a fright and said ''who are u please''
                    this weak and limp huge man said ''i am your angel that is to minister to you''...
                    Oh said the sad man...''well do something for i am in a bad way here''...
                    the huge grey man said '' i cannot....you will not let me. you have made me powerless''
                    ''َh'' how? said the sad man...
                    ''well'', said his angel, ''you never ask me to fight nor do anything for you''....you have tired my hands, by your inactivity.
                    ''why dont you sing and praise the lord for your blessings and then pray and thank Him for his great mercy towards you''..
                    ''well i shall do this'' said the sad man...
                    he turned and look at the angel and said ''ok...here goes''..
                    well the sad man started to pray and after this he started to sing... he went and got his bible and quoted ps.149.. and he was so involved with this... he looked up...
                    what did he see....
                    the huge limp and weak angel, had become a glowing golden light, his sword was raised up and he was dressed in battle array. he was swishing the sword and in full fight and he was magnificient...
                    the man no longer felt sad...he felt inspired..he was like a giant iside, he felt like david did after he had killed old Goliath...
                    the no longer sad man, said to the angel...'' I never knew praises and prayer to Almighty God worked so well and made u so happy''....
                    ''well said the angel...'' thats my job...BUT..you have to act, so i can act for you''..........

                    now this is a vision a man had... and we know JESUS CHRIST is the captain of all our battles.. BUT.. it is UP TO US.. to act and to win by overcoming everything that is NOT according to His word inside of us..grace always abounding ofcourse.
                    ...the new creature, doing everything a new way....
                    and we all have to learn THE NEW WAY... and the path to walk on.
                    ''seek ye 1st the Kingdom of heaven and ALL else shall be added to you.''
                    have a ''different spirit'' an indomitiable one..=never gives up... like a bull-doG over a bone... thats the Spirit GOD LOVES....
                    do not be yoked to an unbeliever

                    - Do not let our Spiritual man [ the believer] to be unevenly yoked any longer our 5 senses soul [ the unbeliever]

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                    • #11
                      Ladylucysmith,

                      I did enjoy that story.

                      I find the following statement you made to be extremely valid, to say the least:


                      "when we take up this stand...sometimes NOT always...it appears, in the situation, to GET WORSE..i dont know why this is so...frankly i cannot understand this...BUT..this is what seems to happen..."


                      I feel that it gets worse to take a stand because it is supposed to be difficult. If it was easy or simple, anyone and everyone would be able to do it--which would defeat the purpose I guess. Things can not Get Better if they are not worse, first. When it is "worse" it serves as a true test of Faith--Do I turn back or do I push forward?

                      Also, those who take a stand must be strong enough to stand alone, in the event that no one else they know is prepared to follow. Standing alone--what a difficult thing it is to do to stand alone. We stand alone, while we search for others who are willing to stand with us. Once that is achieved, I guess that "worse" will begin to subside.

                      Have a good evening everyone

                      Rovivrus
                      "Recognizing the impersonality of law, the survivor is to some degree relieved of the personal burden of battle. It is the law, not she, that must prevail."

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                      • #12
                        song of solomon [peace]

                        yes... i do believe u are right friend...
                        i never thought of this...
                        thats why we so need ''the body'' for one person has NOT got all the answers.... and the i's dotted and the t's crossed. hey?
                        to stand is DIFFICULT..thats so true,.. and the ''worsening'' maybe it is satan puffing up with scare tactics ..more than usual..
                        yet, i know, for the nasty things of test and trial i have been thru... God supplies the strength... all I do is say NO and stand...knowing that the promises work...
                        last week my fax played up and i had no fax..for my business..
                        i phoned the company and they gave me the run-around..etc etc.. but, it was so strange for i did not pray over it.. but what happened was a man visited me unexpectedly on another matter, yet before he started to tell me his business i said '' do u know anything about fax machines?'' he said Oh yes i do... i worked in telecomunications for the last 20 yrs...ohhhhhh i said.. my fax is not working.. he took a look and had it all fixed inside of 10 minutes..now to people reading this, perhaps it is NO big deal...BUT to me it was supernatural and a big miracle.. for i was quiet helpless over this fax and getting nowhere fast, with the proper authorities,...but...even better...God supplied my need BUT i never asked for it...
                        when I thought about it... It really is this = GOD IS OUR FATHER, His eyes are always upon us...looking and noting....and pop....there was my man and my fixed fax... i could NOT stop thanking HIM all day i was so pleased over it....
                        i do hope this has helped u...to ''see'' how very much OUR FATHER CARES.... and teaches us ''to do as we are told with no back-chat''.....it is for your own well being,,, so hush be still and watch for the salvation of the Lord.
                        do not be yoked to an unbeliever

                        - Do not let our Spiritual man [ the believer] to be unevenly yoked any longer our 5 senses soul [ the unbeliever]

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                        • #13
                          "Milk" / "doing the word"

                          Shalom my dear brother Spying,

                          Yah bless you and keep you always.

                          Sorry it took so long for me to reply. I had lost my other job, and now have started another. I didn't work yesterday, and tried to write you a couple of times, but... well... it just would not "flow". So I thought to wait upon Yah.

                          I see you take drinking the "milk" as you do "eating". (smile). >>

                          Quote: > This milk of this woman is some very simple actions listed in Hebrews 5:12--6:8. We drink in the milk when we repent of our sins and begin to believe and have faith in the Gospel. Milk is being baptized and participating in foot washing. Milk is receiving the laying on of hands after we arise from our baptism. Milk is the firm conviction that evil has been judged as evil because we want no part in any deliberate slaying of Messiah through premeditated sin in our future. All these actions are the milk which we are privileged to first drink, but milk can only carry us so far in our quest for perfection.<<

                          Hebrews 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one "teach" you again which be the "first principles" of the oracles of Yah; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

                          Hebrews 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles(basics) of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; NOT laying again the foundation of repentance from >> "dead works", and of faith toward Yah, 2 Of the "doctrine of baptisms", and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
                          3 And this will we do, IF Yah permit.

                          See dear brother, I beleive the "Milk" is "carnal KNOWLEDGE" of the Scriptures. And the "meat" is the spiritual "Knowledge"(understanding) of the same
                          scriptures. As it stated in Hebrews "ye have need that one TEACH you again". To "teach" someone is to give them knowledge or understanding of a thing.

                          1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not SPEAK unto you as unto "spiritual", but as unto CARNAL, even as unto babes in Messiah. 2 I have fed you with "milk", and not with "meat": for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

                          1 Peter 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere "milk" of the "word", that ye may "grow" thereby:

                          I know we differ on this brother. For you beleive "eating" is "doing". When you "do" you are "eating". I believe that "eating" the Word is reading/hearing it. "consuming it" / taking it "into you". I beleive it is 'DUE' > to "eating the word" that causes or brings about the "doing of it".

                          Example: we physically "eat" our food. We "consume it". Then this food goes through a 'digestion' process to break it down. Not unlike what we go through when we "meditate" on The Word we just read.
                          Once digestion is done, the nutrients are sent out through out the body, giving it the Ability to "do". And any that is not "nutritous" is sent out of the body through the drought. In our physical world we have many "copy cat" nutrients. such as "synthetics". Most people believe if they take vitamins, they will be healthy. However... if the vitamins they eat are "synthetics" (say; calcium from oyster shells, something you would not ordinarily eat, verses from brocolli) the body only absorbs approx 10 % of it, then recognises it as 'poison' and treats it as such. In this case the body actualy has to "Rob" your bones of calcium to nutrilize the acid ash that the "poison" left.

                          I feel this is what people have done through eating "dogma", from the religious world and it's "carnal" conception of the Word. They/we have been taught about a resurrection. But the resurrection they speak of is like a tad pole to a frog. NOT a caterpillar to a butterfly. Thus the plague of "Frogs".

                          Quote: DeAnna, then in order to feed others, we must be doers of the Word and not just hearers or learners of the Word. <<

                          I realize this. But what is "doing the word"?

                          Some say it is physical foot washings. Ten commandments, 600 and some odd laws. Some say; "feedng the hungry" / clothing the naked / bringing the poor that are cast out to your house. / partaiking in communion / not eating pork./ keeping the carnal sabbath. etc.

                          I say when one "Forgives" another a transgression against them... they just "did" the word. I say when one "judges not" they just "did" the word.
                          I say when one shows another through Scripture... that Yah shall clean their walk is "washing their feet", and "doing the word".
                          I say when one realizes what the spiritual "sabbath" is, and keeps this in their memory, they are "doing the spirit word". When one keeps the physical sabbath, they are "doing the carnal word".

                          Are all people going to "do" the same word? I think so adventually, but not all at the same time. Because one does not "do" all the words, or the "same" words that another is... does not mean they are not "doing" the word.

                          One says "Keep the sabbath". Another says don't eat pork, another says; love thy neighbor, another says; "sudy to show thyself approved... all are "doing" the word. None are doing ALL the words.
                          Doesn't mean we won't. Yah has a way of bringing about all that He has spoken.

                          In Yahs word He tells us to >

                          Exodus 20:24 An altar of "earth" thou shalt
                          make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy
                          burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy
                          sheep, and thine oxen: in all places where I
                          record my name I will come unto thee, and I
                          will bless thee.

                          Now some may go out and "make" an altar of earth. And they would be "doing" the "carnal word". Another sees this as their "heart"(earth/flesh). And upon their "heart" they offer up their sacrifices of repentance, and peace, and their brethren and strangers, and thanksgiving FOR their "new heart"/altar etc. This would be the "spirit word", none the less, they are a "doer" of the Word.

                          25 And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone,
                          thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if
                          thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted
                          it.

                          Here it says if you offer an altar of "stone". (I think this is our 'stony heart' before we ask and are given a new heart of flesh/earth) Either way... it must NOT be "hewn". WE cannot "lift our tool up on it". if WE "hewn" it. (shape it, in any way) we have POLLUTED it. We cannot "lift up our tool/hand upon this altar. It must come as it is.

                          26 Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon.

                          Some would say; can't make a physical altar upon steps. (I wish the churches would read their bible ... anyway) So they make a physical altar with no steps. They "did" the carnal word. Some say; I cannot "lift myself up", I cannot "offer the works of my hands", but offer praise for the works of HIS hands... They both "did" the word. One did the "carnal word" one did the spirit word.

                          For when the pharassee was praying; "G-d, I fast, I tithe, I do this, I do that... etc. This man "went up steps" and his "nakedness" or sin was discovered. which sin was that? I say it's pride, and the fact that he STOLE the Glory of Yah for himself.

                          The truth is Spying, every man "does" that which Yah causes him to do. For Only Yah can "fulfil" His Word. And no man "can do" anything that the Father has not given him to do.

                          So I don't see it as we are to tell people what to do... We are not to be "masters" but "servants". We are not to "rule" over another, we are to be the "waitress/waiter" we are to "serve" the FOOD. Bring it to the table... And help the babes to eat. "show" them through Scriptures, that they have a maker, that will listen to them, and loves them and truly, truly DESIRES to "make them a new". If they will only Turn To Him, and Talk to Him, and praise and sing unto HIM. As David did.

                          For these are the sacrafices of the temple. And read(eat; smile) His word, even if it's "carnally"(milk) so that later, they may be enlightened by His Spirit of Truth, as to what these things truly mean (meat). And when the seals of the book are opened for Them... it shall be.

                          But I think one must FIRST: "Love thy neighbor", "turn the cheek", judge not, forgive, desire to be "what" Yah desires them to be. BEFORE they will receive the "meat". or the "spirit understanding of the word.
                          I believe that these are the "first works". that bring about all others. though the ten were written "first". The "first shall be last and the last shall be first". I beleive it is the works mentioned above, that cause or enable us to "do" the other.

                          Leviticus 26:10 And ye shall eat old store, and bring forth the old because of the new.

                          May Yah continue to bless you my dear brother. I do love our conversations. It causes us to seek ever so diligently, and is truly a delight.

                          Love,
                          your sis,
                          d'
                          "At that day
                          shall a man look to his Maker,
                          and his eyes shall have respect
                          to the Holy One of Israel."
                          Isaiah 17:7

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                          • #14
                            DeAnna,
                            Sorry to stick my nose in your converstation with
                            Spying , but I just wanted to say that I agree with this so much:
                            You have described selflessness so well--a difficult thing to do.

                            "So I don't see it as we are to tell people what to do... We are not to be "masters" but "servants". We are not to "rule" over another, we are to be the "waitress/waiter" we are to "serve" the FOOD. Bring it to the table... And help the babes to eat. "show" them through Scriptures, that they have a maker, that will listen to them, and loves them and truly, truly DESIRES to "make them a new". If they will only Turn To Him, and Talk to Him, and praise and sing unto HIM. As David did. "

                            Hope you are well, Prayers from me to you!
                            Rovivrus

                            And Ladylucysmith,

                            Your story was a good example. It showed that you do not take things for granted. You didn't pray at the beginning of your dilemma, but you were aware and thankful when it was "fixed".

                            I just want to say something that ties together what DeAnna wrote above, with what Ladylucysmith and I have been speaking about--Standing Alone. A person who cannot achieve the selflessness that DeAnna has described is one who would have a very difficult time standing alone. For when you are alone, there is not anyone there to serve you, and you are therefore, forced to rely on yourself. To rely on yourself, you must look at yourself, and know yourself--otherwise you will not be of any good to 'yourself'.


                            Your Friend
                            Rovivrus
                            "Recognizing the impersonality of law, the survivor is to some degree relieved of the personal burden of battle. It is the law, not she, that must prevail."

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                            • #15
                              song of Solomon [peace]

                              yes... friend..
                              it is just u and God together..
                              me and God almighty together....personal... intimate...relationship.
                              it is NEVER about you and ''them'' or me and ''them''.
                              remember Moses...
                              people had a Problem...
                              God combining with Moses, SOLVED their problem...
                              the people, another group, had a problem
                              Almighty God +Gideon+300, combined, as ONE solved the problem. and etc etc..
                              Almighty God ALONE, with one person is a MAJORITY,.....
                              we have a people problem today.....
                              ONE person standing ALONE always combining with Almighty God...solves...
                              do not be yoked to an unbeliever

                              - Do not let our Spiritual man [ the believer] to be unevenly yoked any longer our 5 senses soul [ the unbeliever]

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