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    After publishing the fantastic story ever told of how the feminine member of the Holy Trinity got the Blessed Virgin Mary pregnant my attention is now shifting to the events soon after the birth of Jesus Christ. Nothing tops the notorious visitation of Gaspar, Melchor and Balthazar from Persia. Christian mythology has it that when the prophet Daniel was in captivity in Babylon over 500 years earlier he trained some Babylonian astrologers to read the stars and to identify the star of a new born king of the Jews. I don't know what was the incentive, but these Persian sorcerers got the wrong idea that the baby was already a messiah king of the Jews at birth. Jesus Christ set the record straight before the Roman authorities that he had nothing to do with any kingdom in this world.

    John 18:36-37 (NIV) Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place." "You are a king, then!" said Pilate. Jesus answered, "You are right in saying I am a king (i.e. yeah, but not of the Jews) . In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me."

    Even when the Jews wanted to make him their king by force he went into hiding. Anyway, those ancient Babylonian Magi (Strong #3097) transferred the knowledge of a Jewish slave to their children’s children for over 12 generations. 500 Years went by before the descendents of the original sorcerers finally spotted the “Star in the East” and that was the bad omen that resulted in the death of so many children under 2 years of age…

    BDB/Thayers # 3097
    3097 magos mag'-os} of foreign origin 07248; TDNT - 4:356,547; n m
    KJV - wise man 4, sorcerer 2; 6
    1) a magus
    1a) the name given by the Babylonians (Chaldeans), Medes, Persians, and others, to the wise men, teachers, priests, physicians, astrologers, seers, interpreters of dreams, augers, soothsayers, sorcerers etc.
    1b) the oriental wise men (astrologers) who, having discovered by the rising of a remarkable star that the Messiah had just been born, came to Jerusalem to worship him
    1c) a false prophet and sorcerer

    Matthew 2:1-2 (NIV) After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi (i.e. Strong #3097, sorcerers) from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him."

    If I were King Herod, I probably die laughing. I wonder how many Magi before them must have thought to have seen the “Star in the East” and made the 1000 mile journey on camel to the Holy Land to worship the newborn king of the Jews. Those “Wise Men” must have been very naïve to come to the Roman puppet King of Judah to inquire about the birth of “the king of the Jews.” Didn’t they know that if that were true King Herod would be dethroned? The idea of going to visit the ruler of another country in a mission to bring presents for a newborn king in a manger is so ridiculous. The other gospels don’t mention any of this.

    The only “Star in the East” known to the Jews is Lucifer…

    If the Persian Sorcerers were looking for the “Star in the East” they were certainly looking for Satan the most beautiful “Morning Star.”

    Isaiah 14:12 (NIV) How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star (i.e. “Star in the East”) , son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

    The Persian Sorcerers that came to visit the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Baby Jesus Christ had a diabolical wisdom. Their stupidity was the cause of hundreds or thousands of Jewish boys under 2 years of age to be slaughtered.

    Matthew 2:18 (NIV) "A voice is heard in Ramah, weeping and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children and refusing to be comforted, because they are no more." (i.e. this quote Jeremiah 31:15... has nothing to do with any slaughter of babies, but what the heck!)

    Anyway, Jesus Christ managed to flee to Egypt to save his neck in spite of the fact that Almighty Yahweh said that no Jew should ever go to Egypt for any kind of protection or help.

    Matthew 2:13-15 (NIV) When they had gone, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream. "Get up," he said, "take the child and his mother and escape to Egypt. Stay there until I tell you, for Herod is going to search for the child to kill him." So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night and left for Egypt, where he stayed until the death of Herod. And so was fulfilled what the Lord had said through the prophet: "Out of Egypt I called my son."

    Jeremiah 42:18-19 * This is what Yahweh Almighty, the Elohim of Israel, says: `As my anger and wrath have been poured out on those who lived in Jerusalem, so will my wrath be poured out on you when you go to Egypt. You will be an object of cursing and horror, of condemnation and reproach; you will never see this place again.' "O remnant of Judah (i.e. including Saint Joseph, the Blessed Virgin Mary, Jesus Christ, and any other Jew) , Yahweh has told you, `Do not go to Egypt.' Be sure of this: I warn you today.

    Well what the heck! The Christians are not under the OT and very few if any of them read the OT anyway… The beautiful she angel that visited Saint Joseph in bed to reveal him that the Holy Spook had a Lesbian affair with his 16 year old fiancée 6 months ago must have been the same one telling him now to flee to Egypt. I wonder what kind of weed was Joseph smoking that he had so many recurrent dreams with she angels. Maybe Matthew is to blame. He is the only one coming up with the story of fleeing to Egypt “so that prophecy can be fulfilled,” although the prophecy that he is quoting has nothing to do with any messiah of Israel. The same goes for the all the other prophecies “fulfilled” in the NT. Hosea was talking about Israel. Yahweh’s firstborn son is Israel, not Jesus Christ no matter how “only begotten” he claims to be! Almighty Yahweh doesn’t want any Jew to go to Egypt for any kind of protection or help.

    Exodus 4:22-23 * Then say to Pharaoh, `This is what Yahweh says: Israel is my firstborn son, and I told you, "Let my son go, so he may worship me."

    Hosea 11:1-2 * "When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son. But the more I called Israel, the further they went from me. They sacrificed to the Baals and they burned incense to images.

    So Matthew was all wet as far as interpreting prophecies. Jesus Christ was born fearing for his life and he died sweating blood in fear of death…

    Hebrews 5:7 (NIV) During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears (i.e. while sweating blood, too) to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.

    In the meantime Jesus Christ is teaching everybody else, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more”(Luke 12:4) Hey, what about you? In spite of his popularity, he spent a lot of time of his short “public ministry” running away and hiding from everybody for fear of getting killed or dying. He was told to get out of hiding.

    John 7:1-4 (NIV) After this, Jesus went around in Galilee, purposely staying away from Judea because the Jews there were waiting to take his life. But when the Jewish Feast of Tabernacles was near, Jesus' brothers said to him, "You ought to leave here and go to Judea, so that your disciples may see the miracles you do. No one who wants to become a public figure acts in secret. Since you are doing these things, show yourself to the world."

    John 8:59 (NIV) At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

    John 6:15 (NIV) Jesus, knowing that they intended to come and make him king by force, withdrew again to a mountain by himself.

    John 12:36b (NIV) When he had finished speaking, Jesus left and hid himself from them.

    Matthew 4:12 (NIV) When Jesus heard that John had been put in prison, he returned to Galilee.

    Matthew 14:13a (NIV) When Jesus heard what had happened, he withdrew by boat privately to a solitary place.

    Matthew 12:14-16 (NIV) But the Pharisees went out and plotted how they might kill Jesus. Aware of this, Jesus withdrew from that place. Many followed him, and he healed all their sick, warning them not to tell who he was.

    Luke 22:42-44 (NIV) "Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done." An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him
    (i.e. yeah, one of his creatures, an angel had a pep talk with the alleged creator of the universe. I don’t know what he told him, but he made him to sweat blood. What a help! Poor guy! Funny that Jesus Christ didn’t resort to the help of the feminine member of the Holy Trinity the “Comforter,” but he opted to get help from a lesser ranking angelical being. I think that the feminine touch was missing. Hey, somebody ought to make a movie on the real life of Jesus Christ!) And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.

    No wonder the disciples were asking for more faith… One has to have a lot of blind faith to believe in Jesus Christ.

    Have a Merry Christmas… Ho…! Ho…! Ho…!
    "...and the truth will set you free."--Jesus Christ

  • #2

    no...again you missed it...
    a beliver HAS THE FAITH, of the Son of God.
    our ''small measure'' is given but what is needed is HIS FAITH.
    you cannot understand this stranger....see... you have NOT His faith...
    the book is NOT written for u, nor have u understanding of is supernatural u c...supernaturally written to supernatural people and they are FEW.....and ..a believer has already heard all this ''mockery'' is like TV replays... they become boring......
    do not be yoked to an unbeliever

    - Do not let our Spiritual man [ the believer] to be unevenly yoked any longer our 5 senses soul [ the unbeliever]


    • #3
      Stranger, you do see supernaturally, but you are on satan's side. Bless you, in our LORD GOD, Y'SHUA's NAME.

      To our human understanding, you are right in saying that our HOLY SPIRIT is the "feminine" side of the TRINITY.
      Do you understand who the TRINITY is?

      The TRINITY is GOD in HIS completed form after HIS CREATION (HIS BODY / HIS TEMPLE) has submitted to HIM.
      TRINITY is a human word.
      ONE is GOD's WORD.

      When GOD was here on earth, HE was huamn. HE acted like a human. HE had the feelings of a human. HE cried like a human. HE was tempted as a human. HE did not sin.
      Can you imagine knowing that you had to die for others to be SAVED; because they sinned.
      I AM sure your father, the lying tempter, was there. he was probably telling Y'SHUA that HIS death would not have any effect in this world and that HE would die uselessly.

      The torture, in Y'SHUA, was not the fact that HE was gonna die, HE knew that, it was the conflict of man and GOD facing the issue of sin. Can you imagine that struggle? satan had found that he could not bring down the SON of GOD (the 3 Temptations), so now he was attacking the SON of human. When ONE is completed by our GOD, as Y'SHUA was (GOD-SPIRIT-BODY), it will not be torn assunder (apart).

      Y'SHUA is the only begotten SON. The rest of HIS BODY will be adopted (CHOSEN / TAKEN in).

      Any ONE who picks and chooses what parts to follow of our LORD GOD, Y'SHUA's WORD is not of HIS BODY.
      There is ONE GOD, ONE SPIRIT and ONE PEOPLE.
      ONE WORD (Genesis to Revelation)
      ONE PLAN (Genesis to Revelation)

      Stranger, you are not a stranger to HIM and HIS WORD.
      You know who HE is.
      LORD GOD, Y'SHUA knows you.

      DT 30:11 Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach. 12 It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, "Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?" 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, "Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?" 14 No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it.

      DT 30:15 See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction. 16 For I command you today to love the LORD your God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commands, decrees and laws; then you will live and increase, and the LORD your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess.

      DT 30:17 But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, 18 I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.

      DT 30:19 This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live 20 and that you may love the LORD your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the LORD is your life, and he will give you many years in the land he swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

      We are sons of Abraham!!!!!!!
      GAL 3:26 You are all sons of GOD through faith in Y'SHUA the MESSIAH, 27 for all of you who were baptized into MESSIAH (the BODY) have clothed yourselves with MESSIAH (the BODY). 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Y'SHUA the MESSIAH. 29 If you belong to MESSIAH (the BODY), then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

      We are called by HIS NAME!!!!!!!
      We are ONE!!!
      The BODY of MESSIAH Ministry

      I did not CREATE YOU for a certain time.
      I CREATED YOU for ME.
      That is why I SAVED YOU.
      For ME.



      • #4
        Shalom to all of you.

        and may all you be blessed(be made happy) under YehsooH's(Yahushua) name(authority/power)

        I just wanted to comment.
        1st. I cant take in what stranger said as truth, but he makes some points-(though I dont agree) but I will have to study with my Father.
        2nd. To the rest of you- those were weak arguements, I am sure stranger was laughing at them them, or throwing smirks.
        please, to defend, DO NOT come with weak arguements- though I know what you are trying to say, it is too weak, if Yah blesses me with the words I will help, but I am on the side on none save for EHYEH.

        But again, blessings be unto you all.
        EHYEH be with you
        with ahava


        • #5
          The Power be with you Antotiyah...!!!

          You are hitting the nail square on the head!
          "...and the truth will set you free."--Jesus Christ


          • #6
            the magi saw the devil in the eastern sky.

            satan draws people ''in''........ like a good salesman, he knows once he has his foot inside the door he has a sale,
            he drew Eve away from THE TRUTH........
            and what people do not realise is...he draws people away from the fruits of the Spirit.... by contentions.........satan loves to contend.....placing his values over King Jesus Christ and uses his stooges to do it....
            Jesus Christ is the truth.. and satan is defeated....
            no problem...
            what Stranger has typed is just vanity...
            unless he repents...
            his further typing shall be vanity..
            to draw away, with a forked tongue, people from obeying Christ, and by living within the fruits of the Spirit....
            recognise it,
            for how is speaking thru him........
            dont is obeying the desires of satan, for u have ''been drawn'' into............
            the fruits of the Spirit are NOT in agruements...
            teach.....Christ.... if people reject, so be it.....
            but do not haggle with a forked tongue.....satan wins...for he loves to be noticed and important...pride it is called.
            do not be yoked to an unbeliever

            - Do not let our Spiritual man [ the believer] to be unevenly yoked any longer our 5 senses soul [ the unbeliever]


            • #7
              Take time

              shalom sister lady,

              I agree with what you have said in your most recent post.but keep this in mind, as I have stated in my last post, your rebuttals are too weak.
              Is satan supposed to run in fear from the truth or laugh in front of your face. Please understand.

              Stranger, you are a very studious brother, respect from a man is due unto you.You do strike with hard studies- but I recieve them as good, again, I do not agree with them, but they are good for me.

              I dont know if you agree with this, but I believe it, All things come out to the good of those in Kristos YeHShooH. So I recieve your hard teachings to make me stronger in Him and even closer. I'll even know how to respond or what to respond with those who do not HIM.

              to lady, please, just take time, study what He says- write in the sand first and take time and think- take time in the word to each statement stranger makes. Then your arguements will be very much heard and considered.

              I know you dont agree with Spying either, but I'll tell you this, Spying and Old Shepard are the only ones who hold a nice ground in corespondance to stranger. Im not saying to be like them, but at the same you can be more. Only if you wish to do so.

              Im not moved yet to rebuttal strangers comments. But he does have the upper hand on this discussion.



              • #8
                Strength is in HIS WORD

                Dear Stranger and Antiyah,

                I AM not here to argue, but to use HIS WORD in TRUTH.
                HIS WORD is where the Strength lies and those with (HOLY SPIRIT) ears will hear and know that Strength.

                To know HIS WORD is not anywhere equal to LIVING HIS WORD.
                If one has been SAVED, by our LORD GOD Y'SHUA, and that one is not existing as HIS LIVING WORD; that one is wasting HIS SALVATION.

                John 15:1 "I am the true vine, and my FATHER is the gardener. 2 HE cuts off every branch in ME that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit HE prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in ME, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in ME.

                John 15:5 "I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in ME and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from ME you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not remain in ME, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in ME and MY WORD remains in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be given you. 8 This is to my FATHER's glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be MY DISCIPLEs.

                WE are ONE!!!
                The BODY of MESSIAH Ministry

                I did not CREATE YOU for a certain time.
                I CREATED YOU for ETERNITY.
                I CREATED YOU for ME.
                That is why I SAVED YOU.
                For ME.

                YOUR HUSBAND,


                • #9
                  ON NO ONE's SIDE!

                  shalom to you Israel...,

                  Be blessed

                  that is an awesome thing you have said- but please stay on the topic of this page.
                  I have stated my comments to let both you and Lady know that you MUST come with greater and more planned out word, than to just blurt out whatever.
                  The things you said in your last post are agreable- I agree with them- but I saw that you were just knicking off the surface information.
                  take what I am saying as encouragement please! It is for your good.
                  Spend some time in study, see the root, the source in people's thoughts, arguements, comments, teachings, etc. dont just knick off the foot soldiers- get the king!
                  Do you understand?
                  And I know that you do!

                  Dont waste space! do your study if you wish to rebutt!
                  If it is just opinions, or free paging, like the head coverings page then state whatever, you can knick off footsoldiers there. we are studying to unify there.

                  No offence to you stranger, but one thing I have learned about you is that there cannot be a comfortable toss of Ideas in love fellowship.
                  It may be comfortable but it is more of on edge battle- and I see that good, that is the way you have programmed yourself to be.
                  continue to do what you do, but please(since again, I dont know where you stand exactly in Messiah) listen to others and take into consideration that they might just be right, if you hadnt done so already.

                  I'll ask you each time stranger, what is it exactly that you believe?
                  I ask you in love, tell me if you are confident in sharing, but answer me- tell me if you will tell me or not...

                  well be strong

                  but to the rest of you! BE strong, and gain, and add- take the iron sharpening.



                  • #10
                    the magi saw the devil in the eastern sky.

                    i shall not is NOT the fruits of the snares for me to fall into.....
                    do not be yoked to an unbeliever

                    - Do not let our Spiritual man [ the believer] to be unevenly yoked any longer our 5 senses soul [ the unbeliever]


                    • #11
                      LADY, this is only peace and we are FAM.

                      YAH's blessings be unto you and Israel..., and Stranger

                      this is to you Lady, this isnt something to reject.
                      but first it is shown to me that you are one to reject the meeting of brothers if they try to make you stronger, point out where you can be sure to progress.
                      If these arent edifying words, then May Jesus come down from Heaven himself from heaven(PhysicAlly) in vision and tell you His truth (which wont happen).

                      to you Lady and Israelthebride,
                      if your a fan in any sort of Josh McDowell, check out what he says

                      One needs to answer the basic problem or real question- not the
                      surface detour that often manifests itself.
                      (JOSH McDOWELL)

                      If your saying these words are from the enemy and what Im trying to do is destroy you- YOU ARE WRONG sister Lady.
                      MAy YEHSOOH bless your heart and take away its stone covering.

                      shalom to each of you with Ahava


                      • #12
                        the magi saw the devi;l in the eastern sky

                        no comment,. I REFUSE.......... THE SNARE.
                        do not be yoked to an unbeliever

                        - Do not let our Spiritual man [ the believer] to be unevenly yoked any longer our 5 senses soul [ the unbeliever]


                        • #13
                          I am a very energetic youngster- and I now believe that you are the one planting the snares.
                          and you know how young people are led into things.
                          I'LL say this
                          You seek to divide- if not this, you dont care to be one with your people- the bride- the body.

                          from the beginning I have only sought to be one - hear out and listen. I agreed with all you have said, I only advised you to seek out the 'source of problem'and speak on that.
                          How is this a snare?
                          How is this wrong?

                          If you are truely a watchman for THE L-RD G-D, YAH , Jesus then tell your brother what wrong he has done, because he does not know what wrong he is doing to you.
                          if you have nothing to say may He convict your spirit for the things I have shown you where you are wrong.
                          You seem to be very stubborn to G-Dly support of brothers that for some reason you think are against you.
                          Read over my posts again, and you will see the sincerity, the truthfulness of YAh!
                          Go to the head covering topic and you will see YAh, go to the "incest and other illicit..." topic and you will see Christ.
                          You find fellowship, and those who seek it in love.

                          You somehow tend to believe, that if someone wants to advice and correct you that they are against you.
                          Recieve His correction daughter of Yah!
                          This is no snare!

                          again, show me where and how I sinned against you, and Yah will judge.

                          I am done, I have done my part.
                          Peace be with you with ahava(love)

                          you do cast judgement on peoples-
                          so to you be done the same


                          • #14
                            Spiritual Molestation!

                            Hi AntotiYAH,

                            There do exist physical sexual abusers, and there do exist spiritual sexual abusers. Both will lead you into sin and feelings of shame and of guilt through their activity without explaining to you the why of it all.

                            As a father, I will tell you that your perception of spiritual sexual abuse is right on, and know this also: If you really hear what Rovivrus is saying about physical sexual molestation, then know that spiritual molestation follows the same pattern. The molester will avoid accountability like the plague because deep in his/her heart they know that their molestation is wrong, and that their molestation will not withstand the light of day.

                            Peace to you, AntotiYAH!

                            Sincerely, Spying
                            The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!


                            • #15
                              Thanks Spying,

                              those are words that are bringing me back to health, really.
                              I have felt a bit off since I left this page, and so I needed to know what I could do.

                              but thank you- and Rovirus, and even DeAnna for your fellowship.

                              All Praises be unto Yah! For He is in us.