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  • LucySmith
    the finest hour

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    did you get ''tapped'' upon your shoulder???????

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  • LucySmith
    BORN AGAIN - LIVE HERE IN ETERNAL LIFE - saved die from gross ignorance.

    ignorance kills

    The carnal mind is a sly and slippery thing. - it belongs to the Matrix system a system built on guilt, fears and punishments

    We all know that in the natural you inherit something when a loved one dies if he included you in his will.
    The death that triggers the inheritance is the death of the testator, not the death of the heir.

    Why is it then that when it comes to our spiritual inheritance our carnal mind is programmed to unthinkingly and automatically place the attainment of the inheritance in an afterlife?
    We look at that scripture, identify ourselves with “flesh and blood” and assume that we need to wait until we die to come into our inheritance.
    [ a gift from pagan beliefs]

    Among the New Testament writers, John had the fullest understanding of what it means to be born of God.
    (See 1 John especially 3:9 and 5:18 to give yourself something to ponder.)
    John is alive and remains as do some of the 1st assemblies - as a true witness to the miracle of ETERNAL LIFE.

    But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
    John 1:12-13

    UNBEKNOWN TO MOST, the Saviour has given some saints the POWER TO REMAIN alive as His first fruits of real life salvation

    Those who “receive” Him are born of THE FATHER and their identity and life source are no longer in the adamic flesh and blood.
    To receive is defined as: to take up with the hand or lay hold of any person or thing in order to use it, to take up a thing to be carried, to take upon oneself.

    When you are born of the water (the germinating Word) and the Spirit you experience a change of identity, paternity and life source.
    You are truly a new creation.

    This goes far beyond merely believing that Jesus died 2000 years ago to pay the price for you to go to heaven after you die.

    Being a new creation goes beyond cleaning up your act by giving up all the things religion condemns.
    You cannot truly receive Him now if you are waiting for Him to appear in the sky.
    Do you see how the doctrines of man rob the people of God not only of their birthright, just as Jezebel robbed Naboth, but of their very identity as sons AND Daughters?

    The system of religion tries everything in its power to prevent the conception of born again Sons and Daughters.
    It does this “spiritual contraception” by teaching lies and programming Christians to reject the spiritual Word, which is the supernatural seed of God that engenders sonship.

    (It is interesting to note how the religious system gets very judgmental and self-righteous about those things in the natural -- contraception, abortion, fornication, adultery -- that it is guilty of in the spirit.
    Which transgressions do you imagine are worse, the natural or the spiritual, in the eyes of our Father?)

    In order to bring to pass His glorious plan of redeeming the creation from the bondage of death, God had to set aside for Himself a first fruits company of sons, and Daughters
    the pre-destinated elect of God,
    in whom He is replicating His mind, His personality and the divine genetics that He created in the beginning.

    These are truly born again because they see with anointed eyes the unfolding of the kingdom of heaven within themselves.
    As God’s dominion unfolds in our heavenlies, it will begin manifesting in our earthly dimension: our physical bodies.

    It is then that the creation will begin to see a body of people who are walking in the fullness of salvation: spirit, soul and body.

    now so few will believe this divine revealing,. and mock the finished work of the cross~~~~ at the end of all things THEY SHALL BE DECLARED THE LOSERS.

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  • LucySmith
    started a topic Are You Born Again or Just Saved?

    Are You Born Again or Just Saved?

    now that the deadly dead religious zealots and their apostacy have departed lets get into THE TRUTH GOSPEL FROM THE TRUTH MAN IMMANUEL..

    [HEY NOT too many really HEAR IT but its doesn't matter, LIFE NOW will always be the truth amen despite all naysayers]

    so lets go chicks

    There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
    The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
    Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old?
    How can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
    [b] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:1-5
    saved or born again - 2 different things

    Most Christians totally misunderstand the words of Jesus in this passage.
    They assume that they are born again because they are partakers of the common salvation through faith in the atoning work of Jesus Christ.

    These Christians (evangelicals, charismatics and pentecostals) hang their hopes on going to heaven when they die and they see the promise of that in this passage.
    In fact, this “promise” is the chief motivating factor, along with the fear of eternal damnation, in going to the altar.

    When Jesus said that unless you are born again you cannot see the kingdom of God, He was not saying, as most assume, that the reward for being born again is to one day see the kingdom of God.
    The key word is cannot (to be unable or incapable) as opposed to shall not.

    It was not a promise to be fulfilled in the future but a statement of a current reality.
    This is a crucial distinction.
    What he was saying was that seeing the kingdom of God is the proof that one is indeed born again. [John 11 V 24 25 26]
    It is the very definition of being born again.

    At best, what the great majority of Christians have experienced is the salvation of their spirits.

    One must be born again in order to go beyond the common salvation and to enter the kingdom of God where the mind, the emotions, the will and the body are transformed through submission to His dominion.

    To be born of God or born again is to begin seeing the way our Father sees, thinking the way He thinks.
    Without being born again, you will not be able to perceive the spiritual reality of the kingdom of God within you.

    The kingdom of God or the kingdom of heaven (and both terms are used to describe the same reality) is not a location,
    a destination
    or something that is reserved for a future reign of Christ.

    It is all about His reign in you in the here and now.

    That is what it is all about chicks.
    The religious rubbish you have been subjected to by the seminaries hireling grew are the bad reporters. AKA= the death dealers ministry that kill off the pews at a rate of 2000 each 12 mins
    beware of the death dealers.