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  • The First Death Is Viewed As Sleep or Rest In The Scriptures.

    The First Death Is Viewed As Sleep or Rest In The Scriptures.

    And one can bet that Lucyfer the devil's messenger will dump her lying dung tongue on this thread too.
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    Yah Messiah said of Lazarus as John wrote:

    Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus, of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha....

    When YahShua heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto [eternal second] death, but for the glory of Elohim, that the Son of Elohim might be glorified thereby...

    These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

    Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. Howbeit YahShua spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.

    Then said YahShua unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead. John 11:1-14.

    Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Lazarus is dead.

    So Messiah views the first death as sleep.

    To be resumed Yah willing.
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

  • #2
    so the question to be asked is

    did JESUS abolish death and introduce the new covenant to people who could be born again of an incorruptible seed?

    Satan who held the authority of death - had this authority removed after the cross.

    ask
    have you made a ''covenant /agreement'' with death and made an enemy into your friend?

    WHAT ACTUALLY IS the good news and why is it good?

    do you understand John 11 v 24 25 26 = Jesus tells His friends this revelation - ask are you Jesus friends?
    if not you wont receive the invitation.

    religious apostate people like Elijah, post the misrepresentation of the gospel so the pews die from lack of knowledge -= Elijah suffers from an attack of no knowledge to the truth of the goodwill to all men gospel

    ofcourse many people will believe Elijah and his lie, I DONT,. AS I STUDY TO BE APPROVED AND HAVE THE SAVIOUR AS MY TEACHER

    the religious people under the law of moses hated Messiah for the truth HE TOLD -just as Elijah hates the truth I post, as the true reality of the good news.


    solution
    ask MESSIAH TO SHOW U HIS PLAN from John 11 v 24 25 26 = so you know that you know and never again be conned by the tares and apostates.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
    THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
    - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
    - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
    This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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    • #3
      so if you wish to understand the truth ASK YESHUA,,, simple hey

      who held the keys of death - prior to the cross?
      Since, therefore, the children share flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared the same things,
      so that through death He might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil,
      and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by the fear of death (Hebrews 2:14,15).

      SO WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY OVER DEATH IN THE O.T. = THE DEVIL

      Death Ruled Until Christ
      [THEREFORE JESUS did not have the authority to cause death to anyone - the devil did. death - devil = devil = death]

      Until Christ's coming, death seemed to rule humanity.
      the Devil held power over people with the fear of death.
      Jesus came to destroy the works of the Devil.
      He who does what is sinful is of the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning.
      The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the Devil's work
      (1 John 3:8).

      What was the devil's work = kill and destroy and cause fear.
      Ask now
      Did YHWH kill destroy and cause fear - in the O,T.
      [ try to have an honest thinking, your life will depend upon your honesty and not ON your church view and bible indoctrinations]

      Jesus took back that authority called the KEYS after the cross
      Jesus has authority over death.
      He testified.
      I was dead, and see, I am alive forever and ever; and I have the keys of Death and of Hades.
      For a detailed description of how Jesus took back that authority from the devil see the '''Gospel of Nicodemus''' - for vivid detail
      It explains this and then you will know what happened after the cross.

      Now for the true revelation - I hope it is received with gladness.

      in reality satan and his demons are snivelling, little things.
      That is so true!
      The only power they have is the power we give them.


      We need to believe that Satan has already been completely destroyed (Heb. 2:14) and simply enforce his defeat.
      The only power he has is the power to deceive


      as an example
      David [ the small] and Goliath [ the giant]
      every one thinks the youth david was the underdog, when the truth is Goliath was the underdog.
      how come?
      David was skilled in the art of slinging,
      He was expert at killing wild animals with the slinging weapon.

      Goliah was a giant had a disease called Acromegaly and had eye problems from this.
      He was unable to stop growing, this causes a disease in the eyes
      symptoms
      •Enlarged hands and feet
      •Coarsened, enlarged facial features
      •Coarse, oily, thickened skin
      •Excessive sweating and body odor
      •Small outgrowths of skin tissue (skin tags)
      •Fatigue and muscle weakness
      •A deepened, husky voice due to enlarged vocal cords and sinuses
      •Severe snoring due to obstruction of the upper airway
      •Impaired vision
      •Headaches
      •Enlarged tongue
      •Pain and limited joint mobility
      •Menstrual cycle irregularities in women
      •Erectile dysfunction in men
      •Enlarged organs, such as the heart
      •Loss of interest in sex



      This is why he was lead down into the valley by a guide and saw 2 sticks in david's hands rather than a slinger.
      When you study that whole scene correctly only the truth can be known
      I tell you this this story AS IT can be likened to the defeated satan [ we think of as a giant] and his hoards when it is the saints [ the small] who are skilled with the divine weapons


      the truth is the saint is mighty
      SATAN and his hoards the underdogs.

      if you are brave and talk to Jesus, His strength defeats satan every time.... this is why I always make Messiah my joy and strength.
      THE disguise comes before THE deception
      What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
      THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
      - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
      - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
      This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

      Comment


      • #4
        now we are going into the deep end stuff here... you got to lose your carnal flesh

        + your religion
        Now listen to THE SPIRIT OF LIFE...………….. COME INTO THE REAL WORLD [Neo wake up and SEE the real world]

        OK READY?
        JOHN 11 chapter records a witness of the power of life that is resident in our LORD Jesus Christ.
        The dominion power of the Father is demonstrated by the Son of God that we might hear these words of life and believe for everlasting life.
        This chapter tells the story of a sick friend, Lazarus of Bethany, and his two sisters, Mary and Martha.
        They were devout believers.
        They had received the good news that Jesus is the Son of God, and they believed the gospel message He preached.
        Jesus was their friend.
        The scriptures record that Jesus loved them.
        FRIENDS TOGETHER = RELATIONSHIP.

        1ST off this is OUR NEW COVENANT BORN AGAIN ''WORKS.''
        THE WORK OF GOD IS TO BELIEVE IN HIMWHOM HE SENT''
        John 6:29.


        YOU HAVE toBELIEVE WHAT HE IS ABOUT TO TELL YOU - THIS IS YOUR ''WORK'' = TO BELIEVE HIM

        now it is going to be hard because satan and the church make sure you don't believe HIM,.

        ok

        stay simple like a child.....
        stay simple...
        don't allow the carnal mind in

        Jesus said,
        "I am the resurrection and the life.
        He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
        And whoever lives and believes in me shall never die.
        Do you believe this???" John 8:51.
        YES FATHER I DO BELIEVE.
        DO YOU?

        YOU CAN die in sin = MOST PEOPLE
        YOU CAN DIE to sin.=THE BELIEVER OVERCOMERS.
        2 GROUPS.

        HERE ARE THE 2 GROUPS.
        Martha stated that she believed in the resurrection of the dead at the last day.

        However, Jesus was about to demonstrate resurrection power in the present tense.

        It seems that most people go by way of the grave, but that is not God’s best.
        It seems that most people go by way of the grave, but that is not God’s best.
        It seems that most people go by way of the grave, but that is not God’s best.
        It seems that most people go by way of the grave, but that is not God’s best.

        Jesus taught resurrection life as well as life that death cannot destroy, everlasting life.
        He says that whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die.
        DO YOU BELIEVE THIS??? John 8:51.


        NOW you can have the brain fart of the carnal mind and not believe - making you an unbeliever.
        or
        suddenly the divine power is switched on and you see the life of the spirit quickening you INTO HIS RESURRECTION POWER AND WALK today and here and now

        NOW not many will be switched on believe and then gain the power of the resurrection today,
        that is the sad fact
        nonetheless a FEW DO - they are his friends.
        IF YOU ARE HIS FRIEND - YOU WILL RECEIVE THE REVEALTION WITH UNSPEAKABLE JOY.


        NOW FOR ''THE BIGGY'
        Jesus says,
        "And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die." "DO YOU BELIEVE THIS???"
        It is the will of our Father that everyone who sees the Son and Believes in Him may have everlasting life.
        " If anyone keeps My WORD he shall never see death." John 8:51.
        WHAT WORD?
        TO BELIEVE HE SHALL GIVE YOU his everlasting life called the power of the resurrection - today now and here.
        that is THE WORD - BECAUSE '''THE WORD'''' IS THE LIFE CREATOR HIMSELF - YESHUA.
        NOW if the WORD is telling you, you can have everlasting life here and now and today - do you BELIEVE THE WORD??????

        WHEN YOU BELIEVE HIM - THE POWER IN HIM, LIVES IN YOU AS A QUICKENED LIFE SPIRIT AND NO DEATH CAN HARM THIS TRUE MAN [the new you] CALLED SPIRIT [in you]

        are you getting it?

        now here is the truth YOU CAN BELIEVE THE CHURCHED like Elijah Spying and Kenneth Brown OR you can BELIEVE THE WORD AND KEEP IT.

        There is a generation chosen to believe and to walk in everlasting life.
        The fruit of the Holy Spirit will be evidenced in this people.
        They are a people of covenant and are willing to judge themselves and lay aside their carnal, sinful nature.
        They desire, have hope, to receive the fullness of the Christ anointing.
        They seek the nature of the Father and the Son.
        They love God with all their heart and soul and mind and strength.
        Their motives are righteous and Christ centered, they take on the mind of Christ, and are Spirit led.
        They are yielded and obedient to His will.
        These are they who say "Your will be done, O LORD."


        YES you can listen to your church systems or you can listen to Yeshua - the both are not the same.
        or
        you can go directly to Messiah and say '' Jesus can we live in the power of the resurrection here and now and remain alive till you return''?
        then listen - and hear the still small voice - saying WALK THIS WAY
        THE disguise comes before THE deception
        What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
        THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
        - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
        - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
        This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

        Comment


        • #5
          now elijah spying and ken will come in as an evil flood

          and they will teach you

          That u have to go under the law of Moses - but that law was declared useless and imperfect.
          but that doesn't matter to them, they ride rough shod over this information

          WARNING
          their way is
          as long as you don't believe in THE WORD CHRIST AND HIS POWER ABLE TO WORK in YOU AND bring u BACK INTO THE TRUE LIFE AS A CHILD OF ABBA
          they will do everything to kill the spirit of the resurrection sparking to become alive IN you.

          THE LAW IS THEIR IDOL and they have made up their own law as well.
          THE NEW COVENANT IS NEW nothing old is within it's tenets.

          everything died under law
          why?
          it was without the true life spirit - hence its description of weak useless and imperfect.

          I hope you escape from the angel of death and BELIEVE THE WORD of Yeshua
          THE disguise comes before THE deception
          What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
          THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
          - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
          - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
          This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

          Comment


          • #6
            BELIEVE HIM to walk in a superior resurrection

            There's an awakening that takes place at the time God allows the Holy Spirit to brood upon the formless void of your BODY and says, "Let there be light."
            You are reborn into the beginning of the knowledge you once had from before the foundation of the world.

            It starts by just knowing Jesus, the One who walked the shores of the earth two thousand years ago.
            That's your first remembrance.
            You fall in love with this man who went about all Galilee doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil.
            This is your beginning entrance into the knowledge, but it's so low on the spectrum of where God wants to bring you because it is only as we see Him now, not as He was then, that we start to became like Him.
            And if we're going to see Him as He is now, we have to see Him as He is within us because that is where He is now; He is inside us in the realm of spirit.

            OPEN YOUR MIND NEO
            CONSIDER

            If immortality becomes effectual after we die, why did Jesus need to bring it to light?

            To the Hebrew people, there would have been nothing radical about the proclamation of an afterlife – certainly nothing that would produce scandal, shock and provoke persecution.

            If the Father, through Jesus, was merely ushering in a new, glorified after-life for believers as the system teaches in its interpretation of the scripture: “O Death, where is thy sting?”, why does the writer of the book of Hebrews describe the heroes of faith in the Old Testament and then go on to say that this cloud of witnesses surrounds believers in the flesh looking to us in the here and now to bring them into perfection (Heb. 11 and 12)?

            This tells me that the focus of the saints in the spirit realm is on the saints who are still in their physical bodies.
            Why?
            They are looking to us to accomplish in the flesh that which they could not attain to in their lifetimes – victory over death.

            If the ministry of Jesus was to cleanse us from sin so that, after we die, we can enjoy eternity with God, why was he the Passover Lamb?
            Jesus’ true ministry: to deliver us from death, in all its forms, by delivering us from sin.


            THE SIN OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE THAT GOES WITH THE SINS OF UNBELIEF
            THE disguise comes before THE deception
            What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
            THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
            - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
            - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
            This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

            Comment


            • #7
              NOW I HAVE TOLD YOU OF Abba's best for you

              don't allow others to remove the true spirit of life from you and stop you from attaining Abba father's best
              oh yes
              they will come in and try to destroy LIFE and make it void....by ''doing things their way'' and how ''they believe'' and what the scriptures tell never to admit the BBL is confusing man added to verses, and a chaos of duality of double meanings.

              best thing = go sit at the feet of Jesus. ask to RECEIVE for yourself


              I shall watch.
              THE disguise comes before THE deception
              What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
              THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
              - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
              - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
              This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

              Comment


              • #8
                Abba's best john 1 v 1

                the Word of God, the speech of God, the will of God, expressed by the breath of His mouth,
                became Flesh in the person of the man Jesus.


                It is a truth that is being revealed fully for the first time by John,
                ‘ The Word ’ became the incarnation of Deity, the man Jesus THE Christ.
                And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father ), full of grace and truth.

                This information that John makes known is so momentous that it is hardly believable, that God should in the person of the Son, the Word, become flesh, born as the man Jesus of Nazareth.



                NOW WHEN JESUS talks about eternal life here - He is bringing the revelation at THE WILL THE BREATH THE WORD - has expressed eternal life here on earth
                john 11 v 24 25 26
                it is HIS WILL.

                so before you start shouting abuses in total ignorance
                - THE GODHEAD, BREATHED THE WORD OF HIS WILL that man could have eternal life here and today and never die a physical death as death was abolished at the cross.

                Why do people still die?
                From lack of knowledge and their unbelief IN THE WORD.
                Very simple once you ''''get it!''''''

                the Creator of the Universe has chosen His friends to be His companions and not die a physical death but to remain ALIVE BY HIS SPIRIT OF LIFE - till the glorification.


                SHOULD YOU think this is all mere imagination
                - no -
                for Jesus will tell His friends and assure them over and over, simply to ----- '''expect the best,''''
                THE disguise comes before THE deception
                What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                  the Word of God, the speech of God, the will of God, expressed by the breath of His mouth,
                  became Flesh in the person of the man Jesus.


                  It is a truth that is being revealed fully for the first time by John,
                  ‘ The Word ’ became the incarnation of Deity, the man Jesus THE Christ.
                  And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father ), full of grace and truth.

                  This information that John makes known is so momentous that it is hardly believable, that God should in the person of the Son, the Word, become flesh, born as the man Jesus of Nazareth.



                  NOW WHEN JESUS talks about eternal life here - He is bringing the revelation at THE WILL THE BREATH THE WORD - has expressed eternal life here on earth
                  john 11 v 24 25 26
                  it is HIS WILL.

                  so before you start shouting abuses in total ignorance
                  - THE GODHEAD, BREATHED THE WORD OF HIS WILL that man could have eternal life here and today and never die a physical death as death was abolished at the cross.

                  Why do people still die?
                  From lack of knowledge and their unbelief IN THE WORD.
                  Very simple once you ''''get it!''''''

                  the Creator of the Universe has chosen His friends to be His companions and not die a physical death but to remain ALIVE BY HIS SPIRIT OF LIFE - till the glorification.


                  SHOULD YOU think this is all mere imagination
                  - no -
                  for Jesus will tell His friends and assure them over and over, simply to ----- '''expect the best,''''
                  Yeap I knew it,

                  And one can bet that Lucyfer the devil's messenger will dump her lying dung tongue on this thread too.
                  A bit of revelation for ye.

                  Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                  By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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                  • #10
                    First Death viewed As Sleep Part 2.

                    The First Death Is Viewed As Sleep or Rest In The Scriptures.

                    Yah Messiah said of Lazarus as John wrote:

                    Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus, of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha....

                    When YahShua heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto [eternal second] death, but for the glory of Elohim, that the Son of Elohim might be glorified thereby...

                    These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

                    Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. Howbeit YahShua spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.

                    Then said YahShua unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead. John 11:1-14.

                    Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Lazarus is dead.

                    So Yah Messiah Himself views the first death as merely sleep.

                    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

                    I apologize to the readers for Lucy the lawless Jezebel for posting her lying and slander, you will have to overlook her tantrums and threats, however, I will combine my posts into one so ye don't have to wade through her nonsense to read my posts.

                    In Acts 7:59-60 when Stephen was stoned to death we read.

                    And they stoned Stephen, calling upon Elohim, and saying, YHWH YahShua, receive my spirit.

                    And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, YHWH, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.


                    http://www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Act&c=7&t=KJV#60

                    So here Luke also viewed the first death as being asleep.

                    To be resumed Yah willing.
                    A bit of revelation for ye.

                    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                    By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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                    • #11
                      Elijah is a VERBAL abuser

                      AND he not only abuses women but the scripture
                      A RELIOUS ROBOT.

                      ELIJAH is peddling false information,

                      ASK
                      HOW CAN A SPIRIT SLEEP?

                      DID JESUS SPIRIT SLEEP AT HIS DEATH OR DID HE GO AND MINISTER TO THOSE IN PARADISE?
                      ''SLEEPING'' JESUS REFERRED TO IS FOR THE BODY. = never the true man who is spirit.

                      the brain dead SDA minister named ''Ellen '' I TELL YOU 51 lies'' White TAUGHT soul sleep as do other deceived churches.

                      because of his messed up mind, Elijah is unable to rightly discern the truth, and has made a ''covenant-with-death''

                      if you have too, go break it and its power in the precious name of Yeshua.

                      yes the body dies

                      - FOR THOSE WHO LACKED TRUE KNOWLEDGE and the dead appear as ''sleeping'' but the soul/spirit goes to be with Father.
                      Jesus said '' into Thy hands I commit my spirit'' and later appeared to all those in paradise to minister to them and 3 days later again appeared in a body prepared for HIM to continue His ministry

                      Don't be fooled by this poor wretched man Elijah and his perverse and incorrect rendering of the truth
                      THE GOODNEWS was never==== be saved and die and go to heaven - that is not good news


                      THE GOODNEWS IS '' death is abolished''.
                      He told the religious jews and they raged and try to kill HIM 11 times = now watch the sad man rage again..... and if you are in any doubt.
                      Go seek the messiah for yourself and don't listen to 1/2 baked unlearned zealots,. who are fully of apostate beliefs

                      You go and seek the truth for yourself
                      THE GOOD NEWS IS Jesus sayeth '' I ABOLISHED DEATH AT THE CROSS LEARN OF ME, AND BE AS I AM''
                      FREE

                      When we die, does our soul remain in a conscience state or an unconscious sleep awaiting the resurrection? find out for yourself.
                      those who die = die from lack of knowledge
                      Last edited by LucySmith; 04-30-2019, 12:12 AM.
                      THE disguise comes before THE deception
                      What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                      THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                      - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                      - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                      This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        the simplicity of a child

                        so OUT THERE IN THE DREAMLAND OF CHRISTIANITY there are all manner of '''''restraints''' from the BBL to the seminaries [grave yards that lack knowledge] to the pastor and his building agendas and the hireling who is paid not to tell you the truth that he /she never knew in the 1st place = a wicked web with THE HERD MENTALITY

                        THE MAIN OBJECT of churchianity IS FOR YOU to learn nothing OF TRUE IMPORTANCE
                        = you just '' go with the flow''
                        = sit down and shut up
                        and
                        = never dare question what is written or what they say as you are a mere drone, to be told how to think.

                        understand religious drone????
                        good

                        the problem
                        you are restrained from accessing the truth
                        this comes from a Christian group mind that is bent on an agenda to deceive and make sure no one else grasps anything other than what the groups expounds

                        here at L>A> '' the groupies'' must have you back under their understanding of ''the law'' = their way otherwise you are termed a sinner and lawless and verbally abused.
                        THE HERD must be followed. NO THINKING ALLOWED - STAY STUPID AND DUMB -

                        YOU ARE RESTRAINED.

                        TO ESCAPE
                        THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE TEACHER not man - man can tell from their personal experience [ called their testimony ] - I tell of this as I am being dealt with to be progressively formed into HIS IMAGE here.
                        the Holy Spirit is revealing the prophecy and the diamond verses HE TELLS AND REVEALS THE VERSES TRUE MEANING AND TELLS WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE VERSES


                        Jesus says HE CAME TO REVEAL HIS FATHER.-no one knew the Father back in the OT but Jesus came to reveal ABBA
                        Explain to me then, how can Holy Men of God have understood the truth of the Father, IF they never knew the Father? IN THE O.T.

                        NOW FOR A POINT ON TRUTH SELDOM SEEN
                        THE G-D yhwh of the OT proclaims '' he is the only god no other is before him he is the 1 true god'' - said all over the O.T.

                        YET the plural ELOHIM is used as PLURAL gods and JESUS AND HIS FATHER ARE 2 GODS. - YET ONE IN IDEALS AND HEART.
                        JESUS IS THE WORD AND THE FATHER IS ABBA

                        YHWH bore the fruit of satan JESUS CAME TO ABOLISH DEATH
                        Father was not the one who was leading these men, whether good or evil it was always satan.


                        to be set free the true
                        Day Star must arise in your heart

                        don't allow unlearned religious hicks tell you how to think...………..seek your Messiah and survive alive and learn the truth of real life salvation the release from all bondages relating to physical death
                        THE disguise comes before THE deception
                        What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                        THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                        - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                        - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                        This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                          so OUT THERE IN THE DREAMLAND OF CHRISTIANITY there are all manner of '''''restraints''' from the BBL to the seminaries [grave yards that lack knowledge] to the pastor and his building agendas and the hireling who is paid not to tell you the truth that he /she never knew in the 1st place = a wicked web with THE HERD MENTALITY

                          THE MAIN OBJECT of churchianity IS FOR YOU to learn nothing OF TRUE IMPORTANCE
                          = you just '' go with the flow''
                          = sit down and shut up
                          and
                          = never dare question what is written or what they say as you are a mere drone, to be told how to think.

                          understand religious drone????
                          good

                          the problem
                          you are restrained from accessing the truth
                          this comes from a Christian group mind that is bent on an agenda to deceive and make sure no one else grasps anything other than what the groups expounds

                          here at L>A> '' the groupies'' must have you back under their understanding of ''the law'' = their way otherwise you are termed a sinner and lawless and verbally abused.
                          THE HERD must be followed. NO THINKING ALLOWED - STAY STUPID AND DUMB -

                          YOU ARE RESTRAINED.

                          TO ESCAPE
                          THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE TEACHER not man - man can tell from their personal experience [ called their testimony ] - I tell of this as I am being dealt with to be progressively formed into HIS IMAGE here.
                          the Holy Spirit is revealing the prophecy and the diamond verses HE TELLS AND REVEALS THE VERSES TRUE MEANING AND TELLS WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE VERSES


                          Jesus says HE CAME TO REVEAL HIS FATHER.-no one knew the Father back in the OT but Jesus came to reveal ABBA
                          Explain to me then, how can Holy Men of God have understood the truth of the Father, IF they never knew the Father? IN THE O.T.

                          NOW FOR A POINT ON TRUTH SELDOM SEEN
                          THE G-D yhwh of the OT proclaims '' he is the only god no other is before him he is the 1 true god'' - said all over the O.T.

                          YET the plural ELOHIM is used as PLURAL gods and JESUS AND HIS FATHER ARE 2 GODS. - YET ONE IN IDEALS AND HEART.
                          JESUS IS THE WORD AND THE FATHER IS ABBA

                          YHWH bore the fruit of satan JESUS CAME TO ABOLISH DEATH
                          Father was not the one who was leading these men, whether good or evil it was always satan.


                          to be set free the true
                          Day Star must arise in your heart

                          don't allow unlearned religious hicks tell you how to think...………..seek your Messiah and survive alive and learn the truth of real life salvation the release from all bondages relating to physical death
                          Yea, Lucy's ABBA and saviour the devil wants ye in his lawless kingdom now that she promotes, whom will be burned with fire when Messiah returns as Messiah Himself says so.

                          And Messiah came to abolish the SECOND DEATH Rev.2:21, not the first death, and only for His own true followers that obey Him and His word, and not lip servers.
                          A bit of revelation for ye.

                          Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                          By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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                          • #14
                            hmmm

                            why stop at a second death Elijah there might be 3rd 4th 5th 6th …… 100th deaths
                            who knows.
                            Have you died before Elijah?
                            how do you know there aren't multi '''deaths'''

                            you don't know, you never died before.....
                            what you need to do before you post rubbish is find out what '''''the terms'''''' correctly mean


                            = you have already messed up SLEEP and given out your false information coming out of false teachers who preach ''soul sleep''
                            spirits don't sleep

                            why do you consider yourself a true follower? when Jesus classed you as the walking dead.
                            let the dead bury the dead = you

                            he is the god of the living He said so.
                            THE disguise comes before THE deception
                            What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                            THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                            - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                            - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                            This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                              why stop at a second death Elijah there might be 3rd 4th 5th 6th …… 100th deaths
                              who knows.
                              Have you died before Elijah?
                              how do you know there aren't multi '''deaths'''

                              you don't know, you never died before.....
                              what you need to do before you post rubbish is find out what '''''the terms'''''' correctly mean


                              = you have already messed up SLEEP and given out your false information coming out of false teachers who preach ''soul sleep''
                              spirits don't sleep

                              why do you consider yourself a true follower? when Jesus classed you as the walking dead.
                              let the dead bury the dead = you

                              he is the god of the living He said so.
                              Lucy,

                              Yah Messiah and ALL of His apostles teach that the FIRST DEATH is merely sleep as the scriptures written ABOVE, I merely BELIEVE them, and ye don't as usual, because ye are an UNBELIEVER teaching ye own turd words.
                              A bit of revelation for ye.

                              Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                              By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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