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  • Eliyah
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    Lucy,

    Who's written words are we to believe, YOURS or Messiah's apostles written words, or will you clam up to this question too?

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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    that contained nothing in it regards the law of Moses...………………… 70 ad made this system - dead in the water
    It's you who are dead in the water, because you admit that you cannot obey the commandments of Yah, and cannot cease from sin 2 Peter 2:14 or transgressing His laws, and therefore this verse by the apostle John applies to you.

    Whosoever is born (again) of God doth not commit sin/transgress the law; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 1 John 3:9.

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  • LucySmith
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    you need to fully understand the era ended and a NEW LIVING WAY,opened

    that contained nothing in it regards the law of Moses...………………… 70 ad made this system - dead in the water
    you cannot serve 2 masters... nor two forms of worship together one ends and the NEW ONE takes over... and as history proves the law died

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  • Eliyah
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    Lucy,

    The levitical priesthood and law was changed or transferred to Messiah Melchisedec Hebrews 7:11-12, is Messiah also done away too? This is what those like you are in fact saying, that Messiah Melchisedec is abolished.

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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    The city fell A.D. 70; and the Mosaic economy, which had been virtually abolished by the death of Christ, now reached its practical termination.
    At the same period the prophecy of Daniel was literally fulfilled; for “the sacrifice and the oblation” were made to cease, as the demolition of the temple and the dispersion of the priests put an end to the celebration of the Levitical priesthood
    Judaism, no longer able to provide for the maintenance of its ritual, was exhibited to the world as a defunct system;

    now that is the true fact of history
    Lucy,

    That bird won't fly and that dog of an excuse won't hunt.

    Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

    Take your pick here: http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...ds+shall&t=KJV

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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    The city fell A.D. 70; and the Mosaic economy, which had been virtually abolished by the death of Christ, now reached its practical termination.
    At the same period the prophecy of Daniel was literally fulfilled; for “the sacrifice and the oblation” were made to cease, as the demolition of the temple and the dispersion of the priests put an end to the celebration of the Levitical priesthood
    Judaism, no longer able to provide for the maintenance of its ritual, was exhibited to the world as a defunct system;

    now that is the true fact of history
    Lucy,

    The temple being destroyed in 70 AD does not mean the commandments of Yah were destroyed, because the commandments was not written in the stone temple, they were written in the scriptures itself.

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  • LucySmith
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    history proves the law became a defunct system... the era died in 70ad

    The city fell A.D. 70; and the Mosaic economy, which had been virtually abolished by the death of Christ, now reached its practical termination.
    At the same period the prophecy of Daniel was literally fulfilled; for “the sacrifice and the oblation” were made to cease, as the demolition of the temple and the dispersion of the priests put an end to the celebration of the Levitical priesthood
    Judaism, no longer able to provide for the maintenance of its ritual, was exhibited to the world as a defunct system;

    now that is the true fact of history

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  • Eliyah
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    Learning how to identify the fake believers and teachers.

    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    the GOOD NEWS is a totally different era bearing its witness to this NEW WAY OF LIVING, by signs and wonders under the power of the LIFE SPIRIT
    EVERYTHING of the former law was removed and deleted in 70ad...…. never to be repeated for that dispensation had ended.
    Those who try and mix and match the 2 eras bear an ANTI CHRIST spirit and to be avoided.
    [ Unfortunately most of these people cannot rightly divided the WORD and remain in apostacy]

    JESUS CAME TO SET THE CAPTIVES FREE...………….

    So, how does He do this = by personal training to remove every spot and wrinkle and unclean things from within our lives and RESTORE us back into HIS KINGDOM
    HE deals with our personal curses, poverty, loss, and that inability to have a DIVINE sound mind = aka =HIS MIND ON ALL SUBJECTS

    He deals with our sickness and anger, the terrible curses of poverty, incest and inbreeding. and ALL those needs that millions lack,
    He gives us the correct employment,
    He corrects our fears and doubts, and MAINTAINS OUR LIFESTYLE INTO HIS KINGDOM LIFE.
    HE WILL SHOW US, the depths of depravity, the world partakes of as ''normal'' living, [everyone does it mentality] and religious depravity most believe in.,
    He will remove the ''eye for an eye'' world wide mentality of revenge.

    yes indeed - it is a total TRANSFORMATION OF spirit soul and body into a NEW LIFE.

    HOW?
    MATH 28-30 - how,
    while these are words on a page, to most, THEY DO BECOME A TRUE REALITY TO OTHERS.... AND THE CAPTIVE IS SET FREE.

    HOW?
    Jesus deals and trains you PERSONALLY so that death is abolished within you, and this training develops the sound mind for HIS KINGDOM OF ETERNAL LIFE.
    YOU CANNOT BE A SLAVE to satan, with all your hang ups,
    you cannot love the world and use all its toys, and
    you cannot live in your flesh and BE THE IMAGE OF CHRIST AT THE SAME TIME.
    YOU CANNOT OBEY ANY PART OF THE 613 LAWS - YOU WILL DIE FROM ITS SIN, it was the law of death - that whole scheme was destroyed., - hint.
    YOU CANNOT OBEY ANY PART OF THE 613 LAWS - YOU WILL DIE FROM ITS SIN, it was the law of death
    Really, and where in the N.T. scriptures IS THE LAW EVER CALLED SIN? Answer: Nowhere!

    The apostle Paul answers this question and you contradict him Lucy.

    What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, Romans 7:7.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...+law+sin&t=KJV

    YOU CANNOT OBEY ANY PART OF THE 613 LAWS
    Really? You can't obey ANY of the commandments? Then why does both Paul and John say that they do, and where does that leave you?

    So then with the mind I ( Paul) myself serve the law of God; Romans 7:25.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...w+of+God&t=KJV

    He/She that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him/her. 1 John 2:4.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...andments&t=KJV

    Those who say that, they KNOW HIM, and does not keep His commandments is a LIAR, so says the apostle John.

    And John speaking of the 144.000 redeemed writes: Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev.14:12

    And who is the devil and his children angry and at WAR with?

    And the dragon was wroth with the woman(Bride of Messiah, His people), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Rev.12:17.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...s+of+God&t=KJV

    Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Rev.22:14.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...+of+life&t=KJV

    I saved these texts of scriptures by John last because it identifies those who are truly BORN AGAIN OF Elohim.

    Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law...

    Whosoever is born of God/Elohim doth not commit sin/transgress the law; for his seed remaineth in him/her: and he/she cannot sin, because he/she is born of God.
    1 John 3:4, 9.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=3&t=KJV#9

    Oh how that one verse 1 John 3:9 weeds out the fake tares of the devil.

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  • LucySmith
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    the GOOD NEWS has nothing to do with the Law of Moses................NOTHING........

    the GOOD NEWS is a totally different era bearing its witness to this NEW WAY OF LIVING, by signs and wonders under the power of the LIFE SPIRIT
    EVERYTHING of the former law was removed and deleted in 70ad...…. never to be repeated for that dispensation had ended.
    Those who try and mix and match the 2 eras bear an ANTI CHRIST spirit and to be avoided.
    [ Unfortunately most of these people cannot rightly divided the WORD and remain in apostacy]

    JESUS CAME TO SET THE CAPTIVES FREE...………….

    So, how does He do this = by personal training to remove every spot and wrinkle and unclean things from within our lives and RESTORE us back into HIS KINGDOM
    HE deals with our personal curses, poverty, loss, and that inability to have a DIVINE sound mind = aka =HIS MIND ON ALL SUBJECTS

    He deals with our sickness and anger, the terrible curses of poverty, incest and inbreeding. and ALL those needs that millions lack,
    He gives us the correct employment,
    He corrects our fears and doubts, and MAINTAINS OUR LIFESTYLE INTO HIS KINGDOM LIFE.
    HE WILL SHOW US, the depths of depravity, the world partakes of as ''normal'' living, [everyone does it mentality] and religious depravity most believe in.,
    He will remove the ''eye for an eye'' world wide mentality of revenge.

    yes indeed - it is a total TRANSFORMATION OF spirit soul and body into a NEW LIFE.

    HOW?
    MATH 28-30 - how,
    while these are words on a page, to most, THEY DO BECOME A TRUE REALITY TO OTHERS.... AND THE CAPTIVE IS SET FREE.

    HOW?
    Jesus deals and trains you PERSONALLY so that death is abolished within you, and this training develops the sound mind for HIS KINGDOM OF ETERNAL LIFE.
    YOU CANNOT BE A SLAVE to satan, with all your hang ups,
    you cannot love the world and use all its toys, and
    you cannot live in your flesh and BE THE IMAGE OF CHRIST AT THE SAME TIME.
    YOU CANNOT OBEY ANY PART OF THE 613 LAWS - YOU WILL DIE FROM ITS SIN, it was the law of death - that whole scheme was destroyed., - hint.

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  • LucySmith
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    a better thing is knowledge.... some examples of PERSONALISED TRAINING UP BY Jesus

    for instance.
    the removal of migraine headaches.
    a hereditary curse, passed down through the generations who suffer from these satanic attacks.

    Jesus, will personal show you how to OVERCOME satan, by being released from the curse and how to stand in your ''evil day'' by....ABIDING in HIS PRESENCE.
    this information is not found in the bible, because Jesus is 1 ON 1 INFORMER, to show and tell His people how ''our personal tribulations'' cease and are erased from our life never to return as this STRONGHOLD was removed
    .
    THIS OFCOURSE co joins with the Rev 12 v 11 - THE OVERCOMER has a testimony THAT OVERCOMES - essential knowledge for the 100 fold

    again
    Most women worry over contraception and use the toxic Matrix methods for their protection against having too many children as they ''submit'' to their churchy husbands needs.,
    ofcourse
    protection from pregnancy for this ''submitted wife's contraception'' is not revealed in the bible - so JESUS BECOMES OUR INFORMATION GUIDE OF THIS very important matter
    He SHOWS His ladies, how '' to close the womb'' until the children need to be born.
    a BETTER THING, MOST churched women never know because the bible cannot reveal all everyday important matters only JESUS AND HIS 1 TO 1 relationship does with His peoples.

    a BETTER THING deals with our personal tribulations and HOW THEY ARE AVOIDED OR OVERCOME
    yes indeed WE HAVE HIS TESTIMONY on many an issue never found in the bible.

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  • LucySmith
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    a fact few notice

    Jesus said ''MARY DID A BETTER THING BY SITTING AT HIS FEET''

    MARY was receiving 1st hand information, as a better thing as her new information came straight from the Master's lips not via any scriptures but from His heart and thought life by giving her His divine instructions,
    THE FACT IS there is NO ''Gospel of Mary'' revealing this ''better information'' she received.

    now, MARY INSTRUCTIONS WERE p.e.r.s.o.n.a.l.
    Meant for her alone, on how to OVERCOME ALL her strongholds, inherited curses, false information, evil imaginations
    and
    how to pass through the matrix veil and into HIS KINGDOM BY LIVING HERE -PERSONALLY- moving from glory to glory AS SHE OVERCAME satan+ this world and her own carnal minded values.
    JESUS working in the Christ spirit is a 1 ON 1 father to His people.
    [the everlasting father for the everlasting peoples]
    BTW
    millions of people from the ancient past, till today, have ''read the scriptures'' yet not 1 had / has the ministry nor the power to Minister as Jesus did to all
    why so?

    they lack true knowledge

    perhaps it is better to do the BETTER THING and be released from most 2nd hand information as Jesus said.
    why?
    the bible is only a map....and not... PERSONAL INFORMATION CONCERNING YOU AND YOUR VAST ARRAY of mark missing tendencies that need the holy erradictation
    the bible does not make holy people but creates in people division hatred and wars - therein- lies its fruits

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  • LucySmith
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    the 100 fold group go from glory to glory

    how do they do this?

    one of the last pieces of divine advice from Yeshua was...…..JESUS: Mark 4:3, 8 and 10-11.
    in the last quoted statement by our Saviour - as above - He stressed A MYSTERY which existed in reference to the 'Kingdom of God.'
    the mystery remains a mystery to all but a few, who become ENLIGHTENED BY SITTING AT THE FEET OF Jesus - they do a BETTER THING.

    THE BETTER THING.
    BY SITTING AT THE FEET OF JESUS HIMSELF, HE EXPLAINS HOW WE ARE TO MOVE FROM GLORY TO GLORY TO BE AS HE IS. amen

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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
    Lucy, glad you're back, and I agree with you except for a few things.


    For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. 1 Corinthians 2:16.
    think for YOURSELF... DONT TAKE THE THOUGHTS OF ANOTHER

    Please understand this Lucy, the law or even the scriptures alone itself cannot SAVE nor JUSTIFY a person, ONLY Messiah can do so, He is the KEY OF LIFE, and AFTER(Please notice this word "AFTER") justification, the faith of Messiah will produce good works James 2:18 .

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...od+works&t=KJV

    And IF people think that obedience to Elohim is not required AFTER justification by Messiah, then they had better do a study on the word "RIGHTEOUS" and what this word means according to His apostles.

    Little children, let no man deceive you: he/she that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he/she is righteous. 1 John 3:7.

    1.righteous, observing divine laws

    1.in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God

    http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=G1342&t=KJV
    Lucy,

    I see that you still did not understand what I wrote above, and mainly this below.

    Please understand this Lucy, the law or even the scriptures alone itself cannot SAVE nor JUSTIFY a person, ONLY Messiah can do so, He is the KEY OF LIFE, and AFTER(Please notice this word "AFTER") justification, the faith of Messiah will produce good works James 2:18.

    First you say:
    think for YOURSELF... DONT TAKE THE THOUGHTS OF ANOTHER
    Then you say this:
    law and grace By: Alva J. McClain
    And this in your tagline.
    WE MUST BE TAUGHT ''how to think''
    not
    WHAT TO THINK!
    Do you never follow your own advice to others, and allow Messiah and His apostle's written word to teach you?

    And I could about guess, that this book you speak about does not cover these verses below, that tells us the purpose of the law of Yah which is to identify sin.

    Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Romans 3:20.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...f+sin%2E&t=KJV

    Do we then make void/do away with the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Romans 3:31.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...+the+law&t=KJV

    What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. Romans 7:7.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...nown+sin&t=KJV

    But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. James 2:9.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...gressors&t=KJV

    Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...gression&t=KJV

    What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin/(or transgress the law 1 John 3:4), that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein (sin)? Romans 6:1-2.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rom&c=6&t=KJV#1

    Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin(transgress the law 1 John 3:4) no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee. John 5:14.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...+thee%2E&t=KJV

    She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin(transgress the law 1 John 3:4) no more. John 8:11.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...+more%2E&t=KJV

    There is nothing confusing about these verses to me Lucy, and sooner or later you will have to deal with them, and you had better start heeding your own advice, and not let others tell you what to think.

    I don't try to tell others what to think, I ONLY re-quote Messiah and His apostles words verbatim, I ask others to believe them Matthew 28:19, and ONLY follow Messiah Himself Rev.14:4.

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  • LucySmith
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    for those people LOST IN THE CONFUSING MIXTURE of law and grace

    a book that sorts out all issues....
    law and grace
    By: Alva J. McClain
    The Christian life seems to be a confusing paradox.
    Evangelicals find themselves lost between law and grace, wondering where to go.
    This concise handbook fields this issue and wrestles it into a concise, understandable concept, useful to the average Christian.

    [once you get the 2 dispensations sorted out in your mind ye will grow in leaps and bounds., until that day ye will swim in the cess pool of ignorance]

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  • LucySmith
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    getting the knowledge of the 2 beliefs...LAW AND GOSPEL

    THE LAW, aka- the system of ritual, works, sacrifice, punishments,
    THE GOSPEL, the good news, of Jesus sacrifice, forgiveness, mercy and the added bonus of the indwelling power of life Jesus walked in [Christ]

    One system made slaves to sin and death, and all died in the wilderness
    THE GOOD NEWS, the ability of dwelling within the CHRIST life,
    This new life, called eternal life, can be achieved here on earth as some are made as '' the image of Christ Jesus'' here.

    One dispensation ended at the preaching of John the Baptist and a period of 40years probation ended in 70ad. when the law came to an end, never to be revitalised.
    The new system, was introduced , with the witness OF 120 of the faithful gathered together IN THE UPPER ROOM and ''tongues of fire'' and then the preaching of Apostle Peter to the crowd and 3000 souls converted.
    The law of sin and death defeated at the cross.
    This is the factual account, of the 2 dispensations, and for those misguided souls who mix the law with the Gospel repentance is needed,

    JOHN THE BAPTIST as the FORERUNNER ministering in the spirit of Elijah, to reconcile fathers to the sons.
    the Holy Christ spirit never ''adds the law'' to the gospel, by going backwards into the dispensation that had ended, and made null and void.
    [avoid such ones who teach otherwise.]

    Jesus is the only ''DOOR to enter THROUGH.''
    No one can climb over the back fence, and proclaim they are saved into a full salvation.
    BEWARE of the Christian holy rollers, who will bring you under condemnation, by advising you are to keep parts of 613 OT laws as they have made JESUS SACRIFICE and ministry void within their own lives.
    ye shall know them by their fruits.


    however onto the good news..... as true record of the new birth and attaining into a new way of living HERE.

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