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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    death has been abolished by the cross.
    the devil defeated and the captives set free...
    THE SINNERS STILL DIE QUOTING THEIR VERSES AND TELL ALL '' I KEPT THE COMMANDMENTS ''

    there is a great gulf some weird mental blockage so the sinner cannot even conceive why they die IN SIN,

    ENOUGH LET ME RETURN TO THE EXPLOSIVE good news and its ability to change and redeem HIS PEOPLE
    Lucy,

    Messiah never abolished the first physical death, Messiah has abolished ONLY the second death 2 Timothy 1:10; Rev.2:11 for His true obedient followers, and the devil has not been physically defeated yet Romans 16:20 either, and you repeating the same lie over and over won't make it true either.

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  • LucySmith
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    so the game of ''lets waffle'' is the religious game when they dont know !!!!

    death has been abolished by the cross.
    the devil defeated and the captives set free...
    THE SINNERS STILL DIE QUOTING THEIR VERSES AND TELL ALL '' I KEPT THE COMMANDMENTS ''

    there is a great gulf some weird mental blockage so the sinner cannot even conceive why they STILL die IN SIN, AS THE HEATHENS DO

    ENOUGH ''YADA FRUITLESS YADA''' TIME OVER...…………..



    LET ME RETURN TO THE EXPLOSIVE good news and its ability to change and redeem HIS PEOPLE

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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    His commands are not life everlasting. because many people profess to keep all the commands yet still die in their sin
    sin killed them.,
    sin is ignorance.

    you have to get the bull by the horns and seek out the true reasons -----------------------------why you will die in your sins,, when u are professing to keep his commands.,.....
    all the yada yada yada and they never get to the root of their problems
    its
    lets play ''quote verses and we go around in circles''....


    DEATH HAS NOT BEEN ABOLISHED IN the ''I keep the commandments'' group.
    they still die in their sins
    The first physical death has been made idle and no longer matters, because there is coming a resurrection from the first death, it's the second death that really matters, and there will be no resurrection from that death.

    Second death: http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...nd+death&t=KJV

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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    His commands are not life everlasting. because many people profess to keep all the commands yet still die in their sin
    sin killed them.,
    sin is ignorance.
    Lucy, they surely are, because the first death no longer matters, it's the second death that really matters Rev.20:14, remember, the death which you also deny is coming for all the transgressors.

    You do as the Pharisees of old did, you reject the commands of God for your own traditions that you have made up Mark 7:9.

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  • LucySmith
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    the above verse quoted ....thats not really true is it ....

    His commands are not life everlasting. because many people profess to keep all the commands yet still die in their sin
    sin killed them.,
    sin is ignorance.

    you have to get the bull by the horns and seek out the true reasons -----------------------------why you will die in your sins,, when u are professing to keep his commands.,.....
    all the yada yada yada and they never get to the root of their problems
    its
    lets play ''quote verses and we go around in circles''....


    DEATH HAS NOT BEEN ABOLISHED IN the ''I keep the commandments'' group.
    they still die in their sins

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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    the law of Moses and its unkeepable 613 laws that made the people captives.
    THE LIST IS WHAT Jesus said to observe... and not added too by the opinions of others to INCLUDE their opinions on something Jesus never mentioned.
    And beware of those claiming to follow Christ or Messiah, which are under the death penalty of the law, and do not believe and obey His and His apostles written word or doctrine, and as the N.T scriptures have proven, the law and commandments are to be obeyed, and those who do NOT are the children of the devil 1 John 3:10

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  • Eliyah
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    For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

    And I know that his commandments is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
    John 12:49-50.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...t&page=3&t=KJV

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  • LucySmith
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    beware of the phony scare mongers... who try to place you back under

    the law of Moses and its unkeepable 613 laws that made the people captives.
    THE LIST IS WHAT Jesus said to observe... and not added too by the opinions of others to INCLUDE their opinions on something Jesus never mentioned.

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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    Repent
    (Matthew 4:17).
    Follow Him
    (Matthew 4:19).
    Let your light shine
    (Matthew 5:16).
    Be reconciled
    (Matthew 5:23–24).
    Don't Lust
    (Matthew 5:27–30).
    Make no oaths
    (Matthew 5:34, 37).
    Don't resist evil with evil
    (Matthew 5:39-42)
    Love and pray for your enemies
    (Matthew 5:44–46)
    Be perfect (in love)
    (Matthew 5:48).
    Seek God's Kingdom first
    (Matthew 6:33).
    Don't Judge
    (Matthew 7:1).
    Don't give what is holy to dogs
    (Matthew 7:6).
    Treat people as you want to be treated
    (Matthew 7:12).
    Enter (heaven) through the narrow gate
    (Matthew 7:13-14).
    Beware of false prophets
    (Matthew 7:15–16).
    Follow Jesus
    (Matt. 8:22).
    Ask God to send out workers
    (Matthew 9:37–38).
    Don't fear those who can kill the body
    (Matthew 10:28).
    Come to Jesus for rest
    (Matthew 11:28).
    Confront brothers in private first
    (Matthew 18:15–17).
    Forgive Seven times Seventy
    (Matthew 18:21–22).
    Render to Caesar what is Caesar's
    (Matthew 22:21).
    Love God
    (Matthew 22:37–38).
    Love your Neighbour
    (Matthew 22:39).
    Partake of Communion
    (Matthew 26:26–27).
    Keep guard against sin
    (Matthew 26:41).
    Make Disciples
    (Matthew 28:19-20).
    Preach the Gospel
    (Mark 16:15).
    Be on guard against greed
    (Luke 12:15).
    Invite the poor
    (Luke 14:12–14).
    Love one another
    (John 13:34).
    "This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you." (John 15:12).
    "This I command you, that you love one another." (John 15:17).


    the list is for the body however some others were given to the disciples that related to their day only
    And Lucy,

    I agree with all of these, and the Father YAH'S commandments are also Messiah's commandments and doctrines, in truth the entire scriptures are His doctrine, and those who do not obey and do them are LOST and foolish, and that's why I advise others to obey and do them.

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  • LucySmith
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    what are Jesus commands....

    Repent
    (Matthew 4:17).
    Follow Him
    (Matthew 4:19).
    Let your light shine
    (Matthew 5:16).
    Be reconciled
    (Matthew 5:23–24).
    Don't Lust
    (Matthew 5:27–30).
    Make no oaths
    (Matthew 5:34, 37).
    Don't resist evil with evil
    (Matthew 5:39-42)
    Love and pray for your enemies
    (Matthew 5:44–46)
    Be perfect (in love)
    (Matthew 5:48).
    Seek God's Kingdom first
    (Matthew 6:33).
    Don't Judge
    (Matthew 7:1).
    Don't give what is holy to dogs
    (Matthew 7:6).
    Treat people as you want to be treated
    (Matthew 7:12).
    Enter (heaven) through the narrow gate
    (Matthew 7:13-14).
    Beware of false prophets
    (Matthew 7:15–16).
    Follow Jesus
    (Matt. 8:22).
    Ask God to send out workers
    (Matthew 9:37–38).
    Don't fear those who can kill the body
    (Matthew 10:28).
    Come to Jesus for rest
    (Matthew 11:28).
    Confront brothers in private first
    (Matthew 18:15–17).
    Forgive Seven times Seventy
    (Matthew 18:21–22).
    Render to Caesar what is Caesar's
    (Matthew 22:21).
    Love God
    (Matthew 22:37–38).
    Love your Neighbour
    (Matthew 22:39).
    Partake of Communion
    (Matthew 26:26–27).
    Keep guard against sin
    (Matthew 26:41).
    Make Disciples
    (Matthew 28:19-20).
    Preach the Gospel
    (Mark 16:15).
    Be on guard against greed
    (Luke 12:15).
    Invite the poor
    (Luke 14:12–14).
    Love one another
    (John 13:34).
    "This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you." (John 15:12).
    "This I command you, that you love one another." (John 15:17).


    the list is for the body however some others were given to the disciples that related to their day only

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  • Eliyah
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    Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 2 John 1:9.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=G1322&t=KJV

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  • Eliyah
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    The 144.000 redeemed obey and keep the commandments of Yah Rev.14:12, and since you admit that you don't or can't keep His commandments, then you're not one of the redeemed.

    Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. 1 Timothy 4:16.

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  • LucySmith
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    The proof is always in the fruits we bear... Called our testimony

    READING THE BIBLE AND VERSE QUOTING = fact is SATAN CAN DO IT TOO
    OR
    TO BE TRAINED UP TO DEVELOP THE CHRIST POWER THAT JESUS WALKED IN - TO OVERCOME SATAN, OUR FEARS AND CURSES +OUR MARK MISSING ABILITY AND HUMAN FLAWS....

    THE TRUTH IS
    are these flaws fading away, as Christ appears in our lives and do we really stand and overcome satan correctly and triumph over our enemy AS our testimony of victory that set the captive free....
    I can say, I used to live one way, now I live another, and changes are taking place,, in signs and wonders each day, so I rejoice and ever grateful for these blessings


    BTW Jesus is not talking 2000yr old speak to His saints,, HE DEALS WITH ALL THEIR ISSUES RELATING TO THEIR LIVES TODAY.
    Jesus is actually a TODAY FATHER...'''' IF YE HEAR MY VOICE TODAY''' YES INDEED - today is the day when Jesus speaks His advice in modern terms to guide and heal His church.

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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    AND NO OTHER DO THE REDEEMED FOLLOW....
    YES some do have good advice... BUT IT IS JESUS ALONE WHO SPEAKS INTO HIS SAINTS hearts and mind and trains them PERSONALLY to overcome this world satan and self.... NO OTHER can do this massive cleansing work
    THE SCRIPTURES cause war strife and hatred... this is the fruits they bear,. and none are ever made holy from reading them and quoting them
    Lucy,

    They surely are by doing and obeying them, and if you want hear or believe Messiah's apostles Matthew 28:19-20, you certainly do not follow Messiah either.

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  • LucySmith
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    Jesus said FOLLOW ME...

    AND NO OTHER DO THE REDEEMED FOLLOW....
    YES some do have good advice... BUT IT IS JESUS ALONE WHO SPEAKS INTO HIS SAINTS hearts and mind and trains them PERSONALLY to overcome this world satan and self.... NO OTHER can do this massive cleansing work
    THE SCRIPTURES cause war strife and hatred... this is the fruits they bear,. and none are ever made holy from reading them and quoting them
    “Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me.
    The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them” (John 14:21).
    HE TELLS HIS PEOPLE HIS COMMANDS

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