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  • #16
    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    And the law Yeshua came and changed the whole lying system of useless imperfection


    I wondered how something that was declared a yoke and hard to bear and then termed useless and imperfect could be HONOURED as serving the creator of all aka -THE WORD
    Lucy,

    Moses never lied, but that don't stop you from fabricating lies about him though.

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    • #17
      The lies of Moses

      And the law Yeshua came and changed the whole lying system of useless imperfection


      I wondered how something that was declared a yoke and hard to bear and then termed useless and imperfect could be HONOURED as serving the creator of all aka -THE WORD

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      • #18
        Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
        And the law Yeshua came and changed the whole lying system of useless imperfection


        I wondered how something that was declared a yoke and hard to bear and then termed useless and imperfect could be HONOURED as serving the creator of all aka -THE WORD
        Well Lucy,

        Messiah and His apostles never said that Moses lied, and they sure do not dispute over Moses Jude 1:9 as you do either.

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        • #19
          When a system has been brought to an end

          How can it be served - it cannot!
          So when the gospels were written 70ad had not happened
          Therefore the wrong information was still peddled!
          After 70ad and the ceasing of the Law a new covenant came the LAW of The Spirit of LIFE
          A far higher and far superior law was birthed out !
          The student under the true Teacher ( not Moses nor angels) lives far above the lies of Moses and his god!
          Free and alive here is the new covenant good news but only a few find it!

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          • #20
            And Lucy,

            Why do you ignore and disbelieve these verses in the book of Hebrews that your always quoting from?

            Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house.

            And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after; Hebrews 3:2, 5.

            as also Moses was faithful in all his house.

            And Moses verily was faithful in all his house

            See and read here: http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...faithful&t=KJV

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            • #21
              And Lucy,

              The apostle Peter absolutely condemns those like YOU who speak evil of scriptural dignities 2 Peter 2:10, 12.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                How can it be served - it cannot!
                So when the gospels were written 70ad had not happened
                Therefore the wrong information was still peddled!
                After 70ad and the ceasing of the Law a new covenant came the LAW of The Spirit of LIFE
                A far higher and far superior law was birthed out !
                The student under the true Teacher ( not Moses nor angels) lives far above the lies of Moses and his god!
                Free and alive here is the new covenant good news but only a few find it!
                One thing what has to be considered is this
                If moses had a perfect law and people not held captives to this system
                Messiah need not have come!
                But lies uselessness and imperfection ruled these captives so now THE TRUTH had to come via Jesus and no one can deny this fact!
                Yes the indoctrinate souls can but a truth seeker would never heed these foolish sheep

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                  One thing what has to be considered is this
                  If moses had a perfect law and people not held captives to this system
                  Messiah need not have come!
                  But lies uselessness and imperfection ruled these captives so now THE TRUTH had to come via Jesus and no one can deny this fact!
                  Yes the indoctrinate souls can but a truth seeker would never heed these foolish sheep
                  Yea, like your words really mean anything, like your words are above Messiah's and His apostles written words of truth, and you certainly do not obey Jesus's words either.

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                  • #24
                    lets see what the dates approx NT was actually written

                    before or after 70ad now a spiritual detective will sus this out.

                    first of all they are not written in their true order
                    [as those infighting religious men mangled up their true order in the council of Nicea.]


                    The temple was destroyed sometime around AD 70.
                    Which New Testament books were written after that catastrophe?

                    the fruit
                    the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD, but oddly enough this information is never written in any New Testament book.
                    That leads me to the logical conclusion that the books of the Bible were written before 70 AD as that long awaited prophecy is never mentioned.


                    fact
                    if this was true, those authors wrote from the perspective that, the law of Moses is still enforced and the NEW COVENANT ruled by the SPIRIT OF LIFE is not fully understood nor yet implemented as there was a period of 40yrs of transition

                    what a mess!!!!!

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                    • #25
                      LETS LOOK AT THE FACTS AS PRESENTED TO ''SEE'' the truth a work

                      No writer in the NT wrote about the FINAL FALL OF JERUSALEM [ only on record as a prophecy yet to take place]
                      therefore
                      it would seem, the original gospel is lost or destroyed or not included within the mixed up order of the gospels/letters so we can understand clearly the true events as they happened.

                      Next
                      JESUS WAS NOT THE HIGH PRIEST under the LEVITICAL ORDER.
                      THIS whole order was removed by a great tribulation, this world had never seen before as the streets ran with blood as high as a horses bridle [ we are told]
                      THE HIGH PRIEST WAS MURDERED as were the whole of Israel and every form of worship destroyed. [ historical facts of 70ad and as Jesus foretold] [ the believers were warned and they fled to Petra]
                      therefore
                      TO BE WITHOUT the whole system and no high priesthood remaining, the jews then HOBBLED TOGETHER a small remnant form of their former worship - as a hybrid religion.

                      Jesus would never advise to partake of this system nor of a system that was destroyed.
                      HE CANNOT DO THIS = IT IS IMPOSSIBLE for HIM to re-introduce a RESTYLING OF THE 613 LAWS OF Moses to the Jews for His new covenant Believers.
                      THERE WAS A CHANGE OF ORDER AND A CHANGE OF LAWS AND A CHANGE OF PRIESTHOOD CALLED ''IMPERISHABLE LIFE'' in THE ORDER OF MELCHEDEZEK

                      WHEN there is a change, the old disappears [ not continues on]
                      be very careful of those very ignorant people who try to switch you back in under the 613 laws as a whole unit - break one of the 613 laws ye break all......

                      there are ''no parts i can keep'' it is ALL or NONE. inc the 10 commandments

                      UNDER THE TRUTH AND HIS SPIRIT, HIS NEW LAWS ARE NOW WRITTEN UPON OUR HEARTS not in a book [ a point most uneducated people miss]

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                        before or after 70ad now a spiritual detective will sus this out.

                        first of all they are not written in their true order
                        [as those infighting religious men mangled up their true order in the council of Nicea.]


                        The temple was destroyed sometime around AD 70.
                        Which New Testament books were written after that catastrophe?

                        the fruit
                        the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD, but oddly enough this information is never written in any New Testament book.
                        That leads me to the logical conclusion that the books of the Bible were written before 70 AD as that long awaited prophecy is never mentioned.


                        fact
                        if this was true, those authors wrote from the perspective that, the law of Moses is still enforced and the NEW COVENANT ruled by the SPIRIT OF LIFE is not fully understood nor yet implemented as there was a period of 40yrs of transition

                        what a mess!!!!!
                        Lucy,

                        The apostles never had to write about it, and it makes no difference, because the apostles knew the law and commandments was already written in the scriptures, because the law and commandments were not written in the stones of the Temple that was destroyed.

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                        • #27
                          the true facts are today as follows..................the law of Moses finally deleted

                          The former priests were many in number, because they were prevented by death from continuing in office,
                          24 but He holds His priesthood permanently, because He continues forever.
                          25 Consequently,
                          He is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
                          26 For it was indeed fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, unstained, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens.
                          27 He has no need, like those high priests, to offer sacrifices daily, first for his own sins and then for those of the people, since He did this once for all when He offered up himself.

                          Hebrews 9:11-12
                          11 But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things that have come, then through the greater and more perfect tent (not made with hands, that is, not of this creation)
                          12 He entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of His own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                            The former priests were many in number, because they were prevented by death from continuing in office,
                            24 but He holds His priesthood permanently, because He continues forever.
                            25 Consequently,
                            He is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
                            26 For it was indeed fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, unstained, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens.
                            27 He has no need, like those high priests, to offer sacrifices daily, first for his own sins and then for those of the people, since He did this once for all when He offered up himself.

                            Hebrews 9:11-12
                            11 But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things that have come, then through the greater and more perfect tent (not made with hands, that is, not of this creation)
                            12 He entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of His own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption.
                            Lucy,

                            That's why the sacrificial system is no longer required.

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                            • #29
                              Be warned of traditional church thinkers

                              THEY ARE EXPERT at misleading comments and twisted ideas.................

                              THE TRUTH AND GRACE CAME THROUGH JESUS = not Moses................. fact not fiction


                              the alternative is
                              lies without grace came through Moses.
                              [now that is a true revelation].

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