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    if Jesus worked on the sabbath doing good and helping others and just being normal....
    SO CAN HIS PEOPLE - HIS FATHER ALOWED JESUS TO BE THIS WAY.
    solution is.
    this way ONLY brings Honour to the Father...……………… NOT THE WAYS OF MOSES and the ''law''' of resting.

    there is no place deceivers can run, when THE FINAL VERDICT COMES IN

    Jesus Himself said to the man at Bethesda on the Sabbath, (Jn. 5:1-18,)

    “‘Take up your bed and walk…’
    Therefore the Jews persecuted Jesus and sought to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father making Himself equal with God.
    [But Jesus said in v 21-27,]
    ‘For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom HE wills!
    For the Father judges no one, but has delivered all judgment to the Son, THAT all SHOULD honour the Father.
    He WHO DOES NOT HONOUR THE SON DOES NOT HONOUR THE FATHER WHO SENT HIM.

    notice

    For the Father judges no one, but has delivered all judgment to the Son, THAT all SHOULD honour the Father.
    HERE JESUS JUDGED IT WAS PERFECTLY CORRECT FOR HIM TO do ;;WORK;; on the sabbath AND not rest as that law decreed.
    and by this ''work'' on the sabbath was to bring HONOUR TO HIS FATHER.
    yet under the O.T father and law of Moses Jesus would have been stoned to death by that father, for not resting~~~~

  • #2
    ''THAT all SHOULD honour the Father. ''

    how SHOULD a saint do this?
    by acting like Jesus on a ''sabbath''
    FINAL VERDICT IS...
    not by resting
    but by loving Our neighbour,
    being normal and
    going out and doing good as HIS servant to all others.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
      how SHOULD a saint do this?
      by acting like Jesus on a ''sabbath''
      FINAL VERDICT IS...
      not by resting
      but by loving Our neighbour,
      being normal and
      going out and doing good as HIS servant to all others.
      Lucy, how can you honor Him, when your disobeying Him?

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      • #4
        Lucy,

        You only Honor Him with your lips or mouth, but your heart of obeying is far from Him.

        See here: http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...eir+lips&t=KJV

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        • #5
          And Lucy,

          To love and honor the Father is to obey Him and His commandments 1 John 5:3.

          See here: http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...e+of+God&t=KJV

          And here: http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...+thy+God&t=KJV

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          • #6
            Lucy,

            Do you really believe that loving and honoring your earthly father and mother as a child is by disobeying them??

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            • #7
              2 different covenants have been BLENDED TOGETHER to form a hybrid religion

              Clergy added to, omitted and misinterpreted Scripture; took verses and passages entirely out of context, and blended the two very different covenants (Testaments) of the Bible to justify their countless false teachings.
              This is why I always reject all twisted church doctrine.
              All the many denominations or divisions of their spiritual mother, Roman Catholic Christianity, (which were all disseminated by masonic/Catholic Jesuit and other Orders before, and since the Protestant Reformation began,) manipulate the truth of Scripture to justify their unbiblical church systems, hierarchies, and teachings.

              the covenant written on stone by plural angels
              “We have learned the noblest of our doctrines and the holiest of our laws from the ANGELS sent by God.”
              When the evangelist Stephen rebuked the Jewish authorities in Jerusalem for going against the Law, he said they were those: “Who have received the Law by the disposition of ANGELS, and have not kept it” (Acts 7:53).
              is not the same as the new covenant written by the blood of Yeshua
              Matthew 26:26-28

              Christ's blood shed for new covenant.
              YESHUA ALONE...……..
              made obsolete all the physical purification requirements or rituals of the national Old Hebraic Covenant that related only to Israel as a nation, and established an entirely New, Spiritual, International Covenant for believing Hebrews, as well as for all His believers from the Gentile nations, (Jn. 3:16

              Heb. 9:15-28 explained,
              “[If the blood of Old Testament sacrifices [made the Old Israelites] holy [because they were mere symbols of Jesus’ New Testament atonement,] how much more shall the blood of Christ, Who, through the eternal Spirit, offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your consciences from dead [religious outward works such as temple worship, ceremonies, and rituals,] to serve the Living God?
              For this reason He is the [only] Mediator of the New Covenant, by means of [His] death [and resurrection,] for the redemption of the transgressions [done] under the first (Old Testament) covenant… [unto] eternal life, (Heb. 8:13.)

              not one saint is ever placed back under the 613 laws of Moses that were given to him by angels

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              • #8
                As usual Lucy you ignore plain texts of scriptures speaking of the 10 commandments.

                These words Yahweh spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me. Deuteronomy 5:22.

                It was Yahweh Who spoke and gave the 10 commandments, and not Moses.

                And the apostle James called them the law of liberty James 1:25; James 2:12, and not your words of the law of bondage either.

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                • #9
                  JESUS USED THE WORD c.a.p.t.i.v.e

                  Set the captives free?
                  What did Jesus mean by that?

                  To be a captive means that you are a prisoner of someone or something.
                  You have been captured, taken hold of, and put into chains and bondage somehow – with or against your will.
                  To be a captive means you have been seized and taken hold of by someone or something.


                  So what was Jesus referring to when He said “I have come to set the captives free.”
                  meaning, the true removal of sin and the curse
                  Plus
                  to advance His Kingdom, under the NEW covenant where His yoke is easy and His burden is light [ Math 11 v 28-30]
                  the HOLY SPIRIT replaced the 613 laws of Moses - that were a bondage and a yoke to hard to bear [Acts 15]


                  the facts are
                  The Law of Moses vs. Grace and Truth
                  “For the law was given through Moses, grace and truth came through Jesus Christ” (Jn. 1:17).
                  conclusion
                  the law of Moses did not contain grace nor truth.... The Truth is a PERSON = YESHUA = THE LAW OF MOSES DID NOT CONTAIN JESUS AS ITS TRUTH
                  therefore the law of Moses was based upon lies.
                  the Hebrews CAPTIVE TO LIES AND its bondages...………. the yoke they were unable to bear. [ACTS 15 v 10]
                  "Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?

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                  • #10
                    Lucy, it's the sacrificial system that's no longer required.

                    Messiah set the captives free from their sins, and not from the law that identifies their sin.

                    And I have asked you this question before, but you refuse to deal with it or answer it.

                    Please show us a scripture saying that, the law itself is sin and death??

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                    • #11
                      Actually that is a great revelation

                      Jesus is the Truth
                      The law a yoke of bondage that held the captives in lies

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                        Jesus is the Truth
                        The law a yoke of bondage that held the captives in lies
                        No, not quite Lucy, so let me re-quote these texts of scriptures for you, so it will be very clear to you.

                        Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Romans 3:20.

                        for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

                        See and read here: http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...f+sin%2E&t=KJV

                        What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. Romans 7:7.

                        for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

                        See and read here:http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...nown+sin&t=KJV

                        So Lucy, is the law sin as you say? Answer: Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay,

                        For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

                        So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. James 2:11-12.

                        Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law., the law of liberty.

                        See and read here: http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...+the+law&t=KJV

                        Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4.

                        for sin is the transgression of the law.

                        See and read here: http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...gression&t=KJV

                        There are you 3 N.T. witnesses my dear that tell you, the law identifies and is the knowledge of sin.

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                        • #13
                          What is so amazing is this

                          It is Jesus Himself that sets the saints Free and not the law of Moses to the jews only!
                          The useless and imperfect system under angels and moses gone
                          All those lies removed so the lost captives are made free amen
                          When we read Yeshua is the way of truth this is a real slap in the face to those lies of Moses

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                            It is Jesus Himself that sets the saints Free and not the law of Moses to the jews only!
                            The useless and imperfect system under angels and moses gone
                            All those lies removed so the lost captives are made free amen
                            Lucy, you ignoring those new testament scriptures that I re-quoted above won't make them go away.

                            And without the law to identify what sin really is to a sinner, they would not even need Messiah Who can set them free from sin.

                            As I said, Messiah came to set the captives free from their sins, and NOT to set them free to disobey the law that identifies their sins.

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                            • #15
                              The lies of Moses

                              And the law Yeshua came and changed the whole lying system of useless imperfection


                              I wondered how something that was declared a yoke and hard to bear and then termed useless and imperfect could be HONOURED as serving the creator of all aka -THE WORD

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