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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    btw Which corresponds to Yeshua ALSO SUFFERING outside the city gate, SO DID ALL THOSE VICTIMS STONED TO DEATH ON THE SLIGHTEST WHIM of an ANGRY GOD

    but PLEASE
    dont go on with it!!!!
    YOU SEE KEN WHEN YOU HAVE THE REAL THING IN YOUR LIFE, RELIGIOUSITY IS NO LONGER NEEDED- I DONT NEED CHURCH traditional religiousity - i am over it and moved on

    solution
    LEARN TO REALLY BE BORN AGAIN AND HOW TO LIVE HERE AND BE truly alive and quickened to the gospel good news in the 2018 zone you were placed within.
    John 10 v 10 = read it and write it 1000 times so you will fully understand its implications
    JESUS IS THE LIFE BEARER not Moses, the law nor the prophets.
    HE CAME TO BRING LIFE AND NO OTHERS.

    YOU WALK IN THE DESERTS with the ancients in a DECLARED -useless and imperfect law, by going round in circles, walking in a death cycle of fallen men and never receiving the divine eternity into your life HERE
    YOUR TESTIMONY IS NOT ONE THAT OVERCOMES SATAN

    ALAS

    THE REAL PROBLEM KEN IS you fashion the verses that can mean anything you want it too..................that is deception 1st class.
    it is an old ruse the Oracle of Dephi used it every day,
    funny thing is
    THE CREATOR FATHER never did anything in His creation that no one misunderstands.,
    the sun comes out
    the stars shine
    the moon waxes and wanes
    trees grow from seeds
    bird sing not talk
    cows give milk
    rats eat wheat
    cockroaches are a pest
    millions of things we ALL understand
    etc etc - so easy to understand,

    but when it comes to the bible - the crazy mess of mixed up dualism and millions of ideas on what it says.,
    Your ideas are just a sample of many, and so produce the fruits of your bible belief in your life - it manifest out as a PRODUCT.....................

    now i dont like that manifestation for all the years you claim to be ''christian'' i would not buy your PRODUCT.
    now i dont like that manifestation for all the years you claim to be ''christian'' i would not buy your PRODUCT.
    No, but you will buy every Tom, Dick, and Harry's ideas about it on the internet huh Lucy?

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  • LucySmith
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    an excellent idea Ken

    Lucy, if you can’t understand that when Moses WROTE that the animals were to be BURNT outside the camp, which corresponds to Yeshua ALSO SUFFERING outside the city gate, then what is the use for me to go on with you
    btw Which corresponds to Yeshua ALSO SUFFERING outside the city gate, SO DID ALL THOSE VICTIMS STONED TO DEATH ON THE SLIGHTEST WHIM of an ANGRY GOD

    but PLEASE
    dont go on with it!!!!
    YOU SEE KEN WHEN YOU HAVE THE REAL THING IN YOUR LIFE, RELIGIOUSITY IS NO LONGER NEEDED- I DONT NEED CHURCH traditional religiousity - i am over it and moved on

    solution
    LEARN TO REALLY BE BORN AGAIN AND HOW TO LIVE HERE AND BE truly alive and quickened to the gospel good news in the 2018 zone you were placed within.
    John 10 v 10 = read it and write it 1000 times so you will fully understand its implications
    JESUS IS THE LIFE BEARER not Moses, the law nor the prophets.
    HE CAME TO BRING LIFE AND NO OTHERS.

    YOU WALK IN THE DESERTS with the ancients in a DECLARED -useless and imperfect law, by going round in circles, walking in a death cycle of fallen men and never receiving the divine eternity into your life HERE
    YOUR TESTIMONY IS NOT ONE THAT OVERCOMES SATAN

    ALAS

    THE REAL PROBLEM KEN IS you fashion the verses that can mean anything you want it too..................that is deception 1st class.
    it is an old ruse the Oracle of Dephi used it every day,
    funny thing is
    THE CREATOR FATHER never did anything in His creation that no one misunderstands.,
    the sun comes out
    the stars shine
    the moon waxes and wanes
    trees grow from seeds
    bird sing not talk
    cows give milk
    rats eat wheat
    cockroaches are a pest
    millions of things we ALL understand
    etc etc - so easy to understand,

    but when it comes to the bible - the crazy mess of mixed up dualism and millions of ideas on what it says.,
    Your ideas are just a sample of many, and so produce the fruits of your bible belief in your life - it manifest out as a PRODUCT.....................

    now i dont like that manifestation for all the years you claim to be ''christian'' i would not buy your PRODUCT.

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  • ImAHebrew
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    Lucy, if you can’t understand the BURNING=SUFFERING, why should I go on?

    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    BTW
    JESUS WAS NEVER BURNT ALIVE AS AN OFFERING but crucified a very different form of sacrifice and death.


    THE CAPTIVE LOST Jesus referred to was to the Hebrews as a nation

    BY PUTTING THE BRAIN IN GEAR~~~~ = A CAPTIVE IS IN A JAIL, A NUMBER GIVEN AND A LOST PERSON, WITH THEIR JAILER OVER THEM AS HEAD HONCHO.

    HMMM
    when the ''scribes' were writing and quoting Jesus, [ the walk on the road to Emmanus] the words used were altered?????.... NOT to EXPOUND ''ON''' MOSES BUT ''ABOUT'' MOSES and the law that kept all men under it AS the LOST CAPTIVES and HE WAS THE FREEDOM FIGHTER THAT WAS COME TO SET MEN FREE ~~~ HE DEFEATED THE DEVIL AT THE CROSS.
    THE GOODNEWS WAS how the god of the OT was defeated and the disciples hearts rejoiced.


    Captives rejoice when freed and they long to tell others about this freedom hey..................... they don't rejoice over a 'history lesson''
    people rejoice at their freedom their release from bondage of THE YOKE THAT WAS TOO HARD TO BEAR. [ACTS 15]

    Yeshua has a YOKE Math 11 28 29 30 - saints move into,. and this yoke is easy and has nothing to do with a law that was LATER CALLED later as imperfect and useless.
    Lucy, if you can’t understand that when Moses WROTE that the animals were to be BURNT outside the camp, which corresponds to Yeshua ALSO SUFFERING outside the city gate, then what is the use for me to go on with you? It appears your heart is set, your neck is stiff, your eyes are closed, and your ears are shut, so what point is there for me to continue on with where Moses WROTE of Yeshua’s death, burial, shutting up or sealing the tomb, and the third day resurrection? If you can’t even grasp that the BURNING of the animals represents or signifies the SUFFERING of Yeshua, then you for sure won’t be able to understand or grasp what follows that BURNING/SUFFERING. And please, don’t tell me again that Yeshua was crucified instead of being burned. I know that He was crucified, but He was ALSO BURNT “Spiritually speaking,” just like what Peter indicated that Believers were being “Spiritually burnt,” by saying this:

    1Pet 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
    1Pet 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Messiah’s sufferings; that, when His glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

    You see Lucy, Peter saw how the believers were partaking of Messiah’s SUFFERING by going THROUGH the FIERY trial. Why can’t you believe this? Ken

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  • LucySmith
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    the WORDS '' THE LOST'' and ''CAPTIVE''

    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    and I responded

    Hosea 6 refers to the third day resurrection of our Lord.
    Nevertheless, it is admittedly usually not footnoted in Bible translations because more clarity was looked for; maybe the translators preferred to be cautious which is understandable!


    Hosea is not ' the law of Moses ken but '' the prophet''
    next
    FACT
    This is not clearly written anywhere in the old testament, nor in the law of Moses to the Hebrews and that is why it is not footnoted;
    if it was so clear and concise why didnt the jews of the day believe Jesus

    then I wrote your solution in the following post
    Solution you need to be BORN AGAIN then ask Jesus to remove the ''church'' from your life so he can give you HIS.

    when you have His life WORKING in you - HE DEALS WITH THE 2018AD problems you face daily - NOT THE ONES back in the days of the pyramids and that lifestyle
    forgoodness sakes~~~~


    so unless Jesus had OTHER SCROLLS, he expounded the Law of MOSES on that we know nothing about, it is certainly not clear from what Moses wrote..

    Yes Jesus did add Isiah 53 when He stood up that day = BUT THAT IS FROM THE PHOPHET not the law of Moses.

    there is no accusing there ken just the simple facts that THE LAW OF MOSES WAS removed in 70ad and no man can re instate it and be a saint of the Father.
    and you have failed to understand '' how heaven and earth shall pass away'' as a saying not a FACT and remain dull of hearing and accepting church traditions as the truth
    BTW
    JESUS WAS NEVER BURNT ALIVE AS AN OFFERING but crucified a very different form of sacrifice and death.


    THE CAPTIVE LOST Jesus referred to was to the Hebrews as a nation
    And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, He explained to them what was written in all the Scriptures about Himself.
    BY PUTTING THE BRAIN IN GEAR~~~~ = A CAPTIVE IS IN A JAIL, A NUMBER GIVEN AND A LOST PERSON, WITH THEIR JAILER OVER THEM AS HEAD HONCHO.

    HMMM
    when the ''scribes' were writing and quoting Jesus, [ the walk on the road to Emmanus] the words used were altered?????.... NOT to EXPOUND ''ON''' MOSES BUT ''ABOUT'' MOSES and the law that kept all men under it AS the LOST CAPTIVES and HE WAS THE FREEDOM FIGHTER THAT WAS COME TO SET MEN FREE ~~~ HE DEFEATED THE DEVIL AT THE CROSS.
    THE GOODNEWS WAS how the god of the OT was defeated and the disciples hearts rejoiced.
    And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, He explained to them what was written in all the Scriptures about Himself.
    Captives rejoice when freed and they long to tell others about this freedom hey..................... they don't rejoice over a 'history lesson''
    people rejoice at their freedom their release from bondage of THE YOKE THAT WAS TOO HARD TO BEAR. [ACTS 15]

    Yeshua has a YOKE Math 11 28 29 30 - saints move into,. and this yoke is easy and has nothing to do with a law that was LATER CALLED later as imperfect and useless.
    Last edited by LucySmith; 08-06-2018, 04:58 PM.

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  • LucySmith
    replied
    the facts as you stated are here Ken

    The VERY first thing that Yeshua TAUGHT His Disciples is WHAT Moses WROTE concerning His suffering, death, burial, and third day resurrection.
    but where is that specific Old Testament prophecy?
    and I responded

    Hosea 6 refers to the third day resurrection of our Lord.
    Nevertheless, it is admittedly usually not footnoted in Bible translations because more clarity was looked for; maybe the translators preferred to be cautious which is understandable!


    Hosea is not ' the law of Moses ken but '' the prophet''
    next
    FACT
    This is not clearly written anywhere in the old testament, nor in the law of Moses to the Hebrews and that is why it is not footnoted;
    if it was so clear and concise why didnt the jews of the day believe Jesus

    then I wrote your solution in the following post
    Solution you need to be BORN AGAIN then ask Jesus to remove the ''church'' from your life so he can give you HIS.

    when you have His life WORKING in you - HE DEALS WITH THE 2018AD problems you face daily - NOT THE ONES back in the days of the pyramids and that lifestyle
    forgoodness sakes~~~~


    so unless Jesus had OTHER SCROLLS, he expounded the Law of MOSES on that we know nothing about, it is certainly not clear from what Moses wrote..

    Yes Jesus did add Isiah 53 when He stood up that day = BUT THAT IS FROM THE PHOPHET not the law of Moses.

    there is no accusing there ken just the simple facts that THE LAW OF MOSES WAS removed in 70ad and no man can re instate it and be a saint of the Father.
    and you have failed to understand '' how heaven and earth shall pass away'' as a saying not a FACT and remain dull of hearing and accepting church traditions as the truth

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  • Eliyah
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    As I have said, Messiah is BOTH Yah's sin offering sacrifice 1 Corinthians 5:7; 2 Corinthians 5:21 for us Ephesians 5:2; Hebrews 7:27; Hebrews 9:13-14; Hebrews 9:26, and Messiah is the anointed High Priest Lev.4; Psalms 2:2; Psalms 45:7; Isaiah 61:1; Luke 4:18; Acts 10:38; Hebrews 1:9; Hebrews 6:20; Hebrews 7:26; Hebrews 8:1; Hebrews 10:21.

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  • Eliyah
    replied
    Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Lucy, why not address the facts instead of playing the Satan card? Satan was an accuser, and used accusation, especially false accusation to blur or twist the facts. The fact remains, the writer of Hebrews stated:

    Heb 13:11 - 13:12

    11 For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.
    12 Wherefore Yeshua also, that He might sanctify the people with His own blood, suffered without the gate.

    Now Lucy, you can keep denying that Moses WROTE about the suffering of Messiah, but the writer of Hebrews doesn't. He saw that where Moses had written about the animals/beasts who were BURNED WITHOUT THE CAMP, that this BURNING pointed to or signified how Yeshua ALSO SUFFERED WITHOUT THE GATE. So the BURNING of those animals bodies truly did signify or represent the SUFFERING of Messiah, and you can keep accusing me all you want, but that will not change the FACTS my Dear. Ken
    Ken, that is true, and Who does the sanctifying here?

    Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill (the law). Matthew 5:17.

    For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of a red heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Messiah, Who through the Eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to YAHWEH, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the Living Elohim? Hebrews 9:13-14.

    How much more shall the blood of Messiah, Who through the Eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to YAHWEH

    Who does the offering here?

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  • Eliyah
    replied
    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    the churched rotten fruit bearers teaching others they are wrong and how to live,
    they have a testimony of self confessed rotten fruits yet, slime others with abuses.

    Elijah a self confessed ''doer of the word'' has a mouth that needs to be syringed
    out with holy water

    a man who cannot control his mouth is not walking in the presence of their Saviour = FACT
    why are we to obey the messed up sinners?
    from the pope down to the pews they are all the same = TRAGIC messed up indoctrinated religious slaves who die from their sins
    in one word

    H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.T.E.S.
    Lucy,

    You smell so rotten I can still smell you all the way over here in the USA, and your the one posting foul mouthed people from youtube.com. and then accuse us.

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  • ImAHebrew
    replied
    Lucy, why not address the facts?

    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    when you have personally ruined some young children lives, by your choices
    by acting in part with others to destroy your assembly,
    by sending young children to unsuited homes for correction
    and
    failed to manifest all manner of godliness, by making very sad and heart wrenching decissions!
    Unable to save your wife, by directing her into the glorious goodnews as she declared '' my husband is my pastor''

    FACT
    you walked this way, because Jesus was NOT WALKING WITH YOU daily so you made ugly wrong sinfilled choices by eating from the tree of good and evil knowledge!
    you are a talker Ken and not a walker.

    JESUS WAS NOT and Is not WALKING AND GUIDING YOU INTO HIS KINGDOM!
    you have made Moses to become your Saviour~
    Lucy, why not address the facts instead of playing the Satan card? Satan was an accuser, and used accusation, especially false accusation to blur or twist the facts. The fact remains, the writer of Hebrews stated:

    Heb 13:11 - 13:12

    11 For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.
    12 Wherefore Yeshua also, that He might sanctify the people with His own blood, suffered without the gate.

    Now Lucy, you can keep denying that Moses WROTE about the suffering of Messiah, but the writer of Hebrews doesn't. He saw that where Moses had written about the animals/beasts who were BURNED WITHOUT THE CAMP, that this BURNING pointed to or signified how Yeshua ALSO SUFFERED WITHOUT THE GATE. So the BURNING of those animals bodies truly did signify or represent the SUFFERING of Messiah, and you can keep accusing me all you want, but that will not change the FACTS my Dear. Ken

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  • LucySmith
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    ofcourse it happens every minute of each day =

    the churched rotten fruit bearers teaching others they are wrong and how to live,
    they have a testimony of self confessed rotten fruits yet, slime others with abuses.

    Elijah a self confessed ''doer of the word'' has a mouth that needs to be syringed
    out with holy water

    a man who cannot control his mouth is not walking in the presence of their Saviour = FACT
    why are we to obey the messed up sinners?
    from the pope down to the pews they are all the same = TRAGIC messed up indoctrinated religious slaves who die from their sins
    in one word

    H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.T.E.S.

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  • Eliyah
    replied
    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    when you have personally ruined some young children lives, by your choices
    by acting in part with others to destroy your assembly,
    by sending young children to unsuited homes for correction
    and
    failed to manifest all manner of godliness, by making very sad and heart wrenching decissions!
    Unable to save your wife, by directing her into the glorious goodnews as she declared '' my husband is my pastor''

    FACT
    you walked this way, because Jesus was NOT WALKING WITH YOU daily so you made ugly wrong sinfilled choices by eating from the tree of good and evil knowledge!
    you are a talker Ken and not a walker.

    JESUS WAS NOT and Is not WALKING AND GUIDING YOU INTO HIS KINGDOM!
    you have made Moses become your Saviour~
    Lucy,

    Unable to dave your wife, into the glorious goodnews.
    DAVE YOUR WIFE??

    What does DAVE YOUR WIFE mean?

    Looks like your back to your old accusing ways too.

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  • LucySmith
    replied
    why would Jesus have you rule over His kingdoms Ken

    when you have personally ruined some young children lives, by your choices
    by acting in part with others to destroy your assembly,
    by sending young children to unsuited homes for correction
    and
    failed to manifest all manner of godliness, by making very sad and heart wrenching decissions!
    Unable to save your wife, by directing her into the glorious goodnews as she declared '' my husband is my pastor''

    FACT
    you walked this way, because Jesus was NOT WALKING WITH YOU daily so you made ugly wrong sinfilled choices by eating from the tree of good and evil knowledge!
    you are a talker Ken and not a walker.

    JESUS WAS NOT and Is not WALKING AND GUIDING YOU INTO HIS KINGDOM!
    you have made Moses to become your Saviour~

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  • ImAHebrew
    replied
    Lucy, you keep struggling.

    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    rather than pouring over a book, and telling others your versions the HOLY SPIRIT OF LIFE HERE SHOULD BE POURING HIMSELF OVER YOU
    how

    = by changing your mind, your values, your preconceived notions birthed in vanity,
    but NO,
    it never happens as you still remain locked into the matrix and refusing to budge saying that same old tired nonsense you did 20 years ago
    you soak in this world
    its your father and mother and nothing in you is changed and MADE WHOLE and set free
    you are the world, with a ''touch of a very false religious belief '' the same as Elijah and Spying = YOU NEVER CHANGE but remain stagnate in sin.

    so sad to see.
    you have wasted so many years, in a form of religious zeal all ''churched up'' and no where to go but to chose your tomb stone.

    and NO there is no clear verses IN THE LAW OF MOSES actually revealing the death of the Messiah = it is blurred at best in types or shadows that can mean anything rather like the ORACLE OF DEPHI
    [ the sweet smelling incense, gave her a ''''high''' AND so her trancelike words could be interpreted in many different ways]


    solution you need to be BORN AGAIN then ask Jesus to remove the ''church'' from your life so he can give you HIS.

    when you have His life WORKING in you - HE DEALS WITH THE 2018AD problems you face daily - NOT THE ONES back in the days of the pyramids and that lifestyle
    forgoodness sakes~~~~
    Lucy, you keep struggling to attempt explanations as to why you and your fellow false christians cannot explain or "open" the meaning of the Scriptures concerning Yeshua's suffering, death, burial, the covering of the tomb, and His third day resurrection. And NO, concerning Hosea 6, it is speaking of Yahweh's People (v. 11), and most commentators realize this. Hosea 6 and John 2:19 go hand in hand as they say the same thing from Yahweh/Yeshua. So no, your attempt to discredit Moses again has failed. Here is another little clue. There is a CERTAIN Scripture which demands that Yeshua rise from the dead..it is a COMMAND in the Law of Moses, and John indicates that IF they/he had KNOWN that Scripture, he would not have had to run to the tomb and SEE, to BELIEVE that Yeshua rose from the dead:

    Jn 20:8 - 20:9

    8 Then went in also that other disciple (John), which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed.
    9 For as yet they knew not The Scripture, that He must rise again from the dead.

    Do you see that Lucy? John runs to the tomb after hearing from the women, and it takes him "seeing" the strips of linen lying separate from the folded head cloth, that convinces him that Yeshua had risen, instead of someone stealing His body. John then adds in verse 9. Why? Because WRITTEN in the Law of Moses is a COMMAND that He must rise again from the dead, and another COMMAND that it be ON the third day, and these COMMANDS were not "opened" to them at that time, it was later that evening when Yeshua "opened" and "expounded" these Scriptures to His Disciples:

    Lk 24:44 - 24:46

    44 And He said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning Me.
    45 Then opened He their understanding, that they might understand The Scriptures,
    46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Messiah to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

    So Lucy, you can continue to be like false christianity, not understanding and knowing the power of what is WRITTEN in the Law of Moses, OR you can START to BELIEVE what is WRITTEN, and then truly be BLESSED (and I am not speaking about the money or wealth of this world that you consider as the blessing). Please consider what Yeshua said to Thomas:

    Jn 20:28 - 20:29

    28 And Thomas answered and said unto Him, My YAHWEH and my Elohim.
    29 Yeshua saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed.

    Thomas had to physically be there and SEE for him to believe, yet, the Messiah says that those who have not seen, yet believe what is WRITTEN in The Scriptures, are blessed. Come Lucy, join in with us to receive the BLESSING you know little about. Ken

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  • LucySmith
    replied
    the real problem is KEN

    rather than pouring over a book, and telling others your versions the HOLY SPIRIT OF LIFE HERE SHOULD BE POURING HIMSELF OVER YOU
    how

    = by changing your mind, your values, your preconceived notions birthed in vanity,
    but NO,
    it never happens as you still remain locked into the matrix and refusing to budge saying that same old tired nonsense you did 20 years ago
    you soak in this world
    its your father and mother and nothing in you is changed and MADE WHOLE and set free
    you are the world, with a ''touch of a very false religious belief '' the same as Elijah and Spying = YOU NEVER CHANGE but remain stagnate in sin.

    so sad to see.
    you have wasted so many years, in a form of religious zeal all ''churched up'' and no where to go but to chose your tomb stone.

    and NO there is no clear verses IN THE LAW OF MOSES actually revealing the death of the Messiah = it is blurred at best in types or shadows that can mean anything rather like the ORACLE OF DEPHI
    [ the sweet smelling incense, gave her a ''''high''' AND so her trancelike words could be interpreted in many different ways]


    solution you need to be BORN AGAIN then ask Jesus to remove the ''church'' from your life so he can give you HIS.

    when you have His life WORKING in you - HE DEALS WITH THE 2018AD problems you face daily - NOT THE ONES back in the days of the pyramids and that lifestyle
    forgoodness sakes~~~~

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  • LucySmith
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    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post



    Ken posted
    KEN POST SAID.
    The VERY first thing that Yeshua TAUGHT His Disciples is WHAT Moses WROTE concerning His suffering, death, burial, and third day resurrection.
    but where is that specific Old Testament prophecy?


    Luke 24:44-46.
    Jesus speaking,

    FACT
    this is not clearly written anywhere in the old testament, nor in the law of Moses to the Hebrews and that is why it is not footnoted;

    Now the church scholars claim it is found here.
    HoseaHosea 6:1-3a).

    but can imply to anything=.this is not clear enough+ Hosea 6 is too vague


    Jonah SEEMS clear enough on the fact of the resurrection:
    40. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. (Matthew 12:40).
    BUT THAT TOO IS NOT STATING the RESURRECTION ARISING OUT FROM THE GRAVE -very concisely.

    So if a searcher was actually looking for the verses CLEARLY spoken by Moses '''in''' His law [AS ken stated]

    it cannot be found clearly and concisely written out from Moses LAW to the jews.

    Hosea 6 refers to the third day resurrection of our Lord.
    Nevertheless, it is admittedly usually not footnoted in Bible translations because more clarity was looked for; maybe the translators preferred to be cautious which is understandable!
    Hosea is not ' the law of Moses ken but '' the prophet''
    next
    Something I do wonder about though is the three distinct persons of the questioning Pharisees in John 1:22-26.
    They ask John the Baptist if he is;

    The Christ,
    Elijah,
    The prophet.
    So, Who is "the prophet" if distinct from Christ or Elijah?
    Is this showing their utter ignorance of the OT law that they should have known as being "teachers of the law?" or is there another''' prophet'''?
    maybe the prophet like Moses?
    THEN ofcourse any ''prophecy' can be written retrospectively if you working to an agenda of planned jewish NWO religious mind control over the masses.

    FACT
    This is not clearly written anywhere in the old testament, nor in the law of Moses to the Hebrews and that is why it is not footnoted;
    if it was so clear and concise why didnt the jews of the day believe Jesus

    oh yes
    THEY WERE BLINDED... that is so '''kind''' from their angry god
    i thought Jesus cured the blind!!!

    we were not eye witnesses to any of this book Ken and anyone can write anything and say''god the infallible, said''

    THE FRUIT IS THE NATURE AND CHARACTER REVEALED AND THE EFFECT UPON OTHERS OF THIS MINISTRY

    you see Ken you are not a fruit inspector and Jesus withered and cursed the fig tree of the leaves that were on it BUT IT BORE NO FRUITS
    MAYBE you should look at your leafty ministry of mixing the law with the gospel = a deadly poison.
    Last edited by LucySmith; 08-04-2018, 10:53 PM.

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