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    Eliyah
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    Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Shalom Eliyahu, until you come up with a rational explanation (instead of an acronym) that proves Lev 23:8 is speaking of the seventh day of the week, instead of the seventh day of the Feast, all of your OTHER arguments are meaningless. You have fought me tooth and nail trying to PROVE your lunar sabbath by demanding that Lev 23:8 is speaking about a seventh day of the week instead of the seventh day of the Feast, and you have absolutely NO grounds to assume your false explanation. You won't let the Scriptures speak for themselves and you have to add in your own words to change the meaning of Lev 23:8. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
    Ken, you did the adding in your own words first in Lev.23:8, and if you don't believe it, go back and look at your post.

    PS: And no you wont look at the problems of you observing the Roman Church week's calendar, because then you would have to face the truth, and the truth is not what you seek nor want.

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  • ImAHebrew
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    Lev 23:8 and 23:36

    Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
    And Ken, as you told Lucy one time, your pay grade is way to low for this.
    Shalom Eliyahu, you really don't know much about my pay grade, but I know for certain that if you try to make Lev 23:8 and 23:36 contradict each other, then you aren't even "employed," so your pay grade isn't even listed. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.

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  • ImAHebrew
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    Until you come up with a rational explanation?

    Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
    Old buddy that is you who are trying to put a round peg into a square hole by making a solar month FIT into a lunar month, because your the one observing BOTH calendars not me.

    And don't try to kid me, in March, 2018 your Saturday Sabbaths are on the 3rd, 10th, 17th, 24th, and 31.

    See here: https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?country=22

    That is 5 Saturday Sabbaths, now how do you fit 5 Saturday Sabbaths into a 29 or 30 day lunar month?
    Shalom Eliyahu, until you come up with a rational explanation (instead of an acronym) that proves Lev 23:8 is speaking of the seventh day of the week, instead of the seventh day of the Feast, all of your OTHER arguments are meaningless. You have fought me tooth and nail trying to PROVE your lunar sabbath by demanding that Lev 23:8 is speaking about a seventh day of the week instead of the seventh day of the Feast, and you have absolutely NO grounds to assume your false explanation. You won't let the Scriptures speak for themselves and you have to add in your own words to change the meaning of Lev 23:8. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.

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  • Eliyah
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    And Ken, as you told Lucy one time, your pay grade is way to low for this.

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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Shalom Eliyahu, you are trying to put a round peg into a square hole by making a solar month FIT into a lunar month. Why are you trying to do these things when Lev 23:8 and 23:36 completely destroys your lunar sabbath, which will then allow for a week to have more than just ONE Sabbath (a weekly Sabbath and a Feast Sabbath). Stop kicking, you are going to stub your toe. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
    Old buddy that is you who are trying to put a round peg into a square hole by making a solar month FIT into a lunar month, because your the one observing BOTH calendars not me.

    And don't try to kid me, in March, 2018 your Saturday Sabbaths are on the 3rd, 10th, 17th, 24th, and 31.

    See here: https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?country=22

    That is 5 Saturday Sabbaths, now how do you fit 5 Saturday Sabbaths into a 29 or 30 day lunar month?

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  • ImAHebrew
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    Round peg into a square hole.

    Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
    Ken,

    Your Saturday Sabbath goes with ONLY the Roman Gregorian calendar, and they have 5 weeks and 5 Sabbaths in March, and 5 weeks and 5 Sabbaths of their week will not fit in a 29 or 30 day lunar month, and suppose you tell us how you can make it fit?

    PS: As I have already shown above in my previous post today, Lev.23:8 destroys your 3 Sabbaths during one week.
    Shalom Eliyahu, you are trying to put a round peg into a square hole by making a solar month FIT into a lunar month. Why are you trying to do these things when Lev 23:8 and 23:36 completely destroys your lunar sabbath, which will then allow for a week to have more than just ONE Sabbath (a weekly Sabbath and a Feast Sabbath). Stop kicking, you are going to stub your toe. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.

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  • Eliyah
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    And Ken,

    I guess my logic above does elude you, because you don't even know how your own Roman Church calendar even works, and your pretending to fake it till you think you can make it.

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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Shalom Eliyahu, sorry, but your logic eludes men. What are you trying to say, that the 14th day of the 1st month fell on March 18th both years, or some other identical date? Here again, YOUR lunar sabbath is destroyed by Lev 23:8 and 23:36, why keep kicking this false teaching down the road? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
    Ken,

    Your Saturday Sabbath goes with ONLY the Roman Gregorian calendar, and they have 5 weeks and 5 Sabbaths in March, and 5 weeks and 5 Sabbaths of their week will not fit in a 29 or 30 day lunar month, and suppose you tell us how you can make it fit?

    PS: As I have already shown above in my previous post today, Lev.23:8 destroys your 3 Sabbaths during one week.

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  • ImAHebrew
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    Acronym?

    Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
    Well Ken, it's not a brand new argument for me, and the term eighth day is an acronym for "the seventh day Sabbath" please notice the calendar below with the scripture, because from the BEGINNING of the Sabbath on the 15th day to the END of the NEXT Sabbath on the 22nd day, is exactly the term "eighth day= 8 days".

    Looks like this below with the Sabbaths in red:

    15th=1st 16th=2nd 17th=3rd 18th=4th 19th=5th 20th=6th 21st=7th 22nd=8th= eighth day

    Lev 23:8: But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto Yahweh seven days(15th-21st): in the seventh day (of the week=22nd=8th day) [is] an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work [therein].

    Thanks for proving my point.
    Shalom Eliyahu, do you know what an "acronym" is? Why don't you explain to me how the WORDS "eighth day" is an acronym for "the seventh day Sabbath?" Or do you have a bible verse that changes the definition of what an acronym means:

    ac·ro·nym
    ˈakrəˌnim/Submit
    noun
    an abbreviation formed from the initial letters of other words and pronounced as a word (e.g., ASCII, NASA ).
    Now, with that being said, I would like to make sure that you have addressed this before on how similar Lev 23:8 and 23:36 are? Have you? They both have seven days of an offering made by fire to Yahweh. Have you addressed that before? Are they both speaking about the "day of the week" in the statement right after the seven days of making an offering by fire? Let's bring BOTH verses up again to compare:

    Lev 23:8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto Yahweh seven days: in the seventh day [is] an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work [therein]. (Feast of Unleavened Bread)
    Lev 23:36 Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto Yahweh: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you;...ye shall do no servile work [therein]. (Feast of Tabernacles)

    Now Eliyahu, you have addressed this before in comparing BOTH of these Scriptures and seeing the similarity between them, excluding the fact that verse 8 speaks of the seventh day, and verse 36 speaks of the eighth day? I know that your lunar sabbath DEMANDS that verse 8 be speaking of the seventh day of the week, INSTEAD of the seventh day of the Feast of ULB, but what about verse 36? Is it speaking of the eighth day of the week like you claim verse 8 does, or is it speaking about the eighth day of the Feast of Tabernacles?

    The gig is up Eliyahu. You can't have these two similar verses meaning two different things. With verse 8, the seventh day of the week, and then with verse 36, the eighth day of the feast. They are BOTH speaking about FEAST days, the Seventh day of ULB, and the Eighth day of Tabernacles. Give it up Eliyahu, acronym and all. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.

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  • ImAHebrew
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    Are they 5 FULL weeks?

    Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
    Also Ken,

    If you go here: https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?country=22

    You will notice the Roman month of March, there are 5 weeks in their month, and I did not know that 5 X 7=31 did you, I thought 5 X 7=35 not 31.
    Shalom Eliyahu, are they 5 full weeks? Look, your lunar sabbath is destroyed by Lev 23:8 and 23:36, so you don't need to be making it any worse for yourself. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.

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  • ImAHebrew
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    Sorry, your logic eludes me.

    Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
    And Ken,

    From which day would the seventh day Sabbath be determined, because on the Roman calendar week, it's impossible for the 14th day to fall on the same day 2 years in a row?
    Shalom Eliyahu, sorry, but your logic eludes me. What are you trying to say, that the 14th day of the 1st month fell on March 18th both years, or some other identical date? Here again, YOUR lunar sabbath is destroyed by Lev 23:8 and 23:36, why keep kicking this false teaching down the road? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.

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  • Eliyah
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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
    Also Ken,

    If you go here: https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?country=22

    You will notice the Roman month of March, there are 5 weeks in their month, and I did not know that 5 X 7=31 did you, I thought 5 X 7=35 not 31.
    Ken,

    Are you beginning to see the problem here above yet? Because there are NOT 5 weeks in a 29 or 30 day lunar month, it's impossible, and now you know WHY no Saturday Sabbath observer will discuss this issue with me.

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  • Eliyah
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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
    And Ken,

    From which day would the seventh day Sabbath be determined, because on the Roman calendar week, it's impossible for the 14th day to fall on the same day 2 years in a row?
    Also Ken,

    If you go here: https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?country=22

    You will notice the Roman month of March, there are 5 weeks in their month, and I did not know that 5 X 7=31 did you, I thought 5 X 7=35 not 31.

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  • Eliyah
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    Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Shalom Eliyahu, it's pretty simple. The day of the month that the Israelites determined the count to for the 15th day of the month was the FIRST day of the month, the day in which the Crescent Moon was first seen to establish the Month. That New Moon day was day 1 of the month and then you would count until you reached the 15th day of the month. Like I said, pretty simple. And WHY does the 14th day Passover fall on the 14th day 2 years in a row? That's pretty simple also. The Passover always falls on the 14th day of the FIRST month EVERY year. So not only was it 2 years in a row, it is now approximately 3375 years in a row that the Passover falls on the 14th day of the 1st month. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
    And Ken,

    From which day would the seventh day Sabbath be determined, because on the Roman calendar week, it's impossible for the 14th day to fall on the same day 2 years in a row?

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  • ImAHebrew
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    It's pretty simple.

    Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
    And Ken,

    How about you telling us, from which day of the month did the Israelites determine the count to the 15th day of the month, and WHY does the 14th day Passover fall or occur on the 14th day 2 years in a row Numbers 9:1-5 ??
    Shalom Eliyahu, it's pretty simple. The day of the month that the Israelites determined the count to for the 15th day of the month was the FIRST day of the month, the day in which the Crescent Moon was first seen to establish the Month. That New Moon day was day 1 of the month and then you would count until you reached the 15th day of the month. Like I said, pretty simple. And WHY does the 14th day Passover fall on the 14th day 2 years in a row? That's pretty simple also. The Passover always falls on the 14th day of the FIRST month EVERY year. So not only was it 2 years in a row, it is now approximately 3375 years in a row that the Passover falls on the 14th day of the 1st month. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.

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