What Is the Law of God for Jesus Ekklesia Today?

[LucySmith]

poor ken

Lucy, if salvation is how well your pocketbook is lined, then there are many vile and evil millionaires and billionaires who are saved much better than you. Ken

its not the riches Ken
its the blessing they bring under the Saviours hand and how HE WILL USE THEM to BLESS OTHERS
remember Ken
when i offered you my beach house to stay there for as long as you and your wife wished but you declined
and dear pal Spying
i offered to set him up as a concreter many years ago he too declined


you dont know anything of MY SALVATION AND ITS LIVING REALITY and its prospering of my spirit soul and body so why SLIME?

[ImAHebrew]

Salvation?

Salvation does not consist of obeying certain laws and getting one doctrine or another correct.
It is not the science of getting better.

Salvation is a living thing, and it entails being translated from one world into another world.

Salvation is being saved from something and delivered into something else.
Being saved means the chains and bondage are ended.
By and by, one is brought into new realities.

These realities test and trouble his preconceived religious notions.
He feels himself leaving the one world and entering into the next.
The comforts and pleasures one has become accustomed of their religious knowledge to must be released.
He must let go of the relationships he valued in the first world and completely establish other relationships in the new.

His understanding of what constitutes truth continually changes and expands so that His view of the world now approaches unto the Christ, which is the anointing.
The anointing only has the true view of things as they are. This anointing [ the verb christ]m is what saves a soul and gives him eyes to see what is true.
The new world we are now being introduced to is made of a totally different substance.
Its love is not based on any expectation of return.
There is only God our real father of LIFE
The experience of the new world is completely free flowing.
Our own love is not based on any need.
It only gives.
This love expects nothing in return.
The soul must be empty and yielded for the new world and heavenly existence to appear.
A soul cannot receive the new Husband until the old one has been yielded.
One cannot become the bride of Messiah, until she is no longer the bride of man.
Adultery consists of mixing the two worlds.
They, thereby, becoming adulterated.
It requires a new wineskin altogether in order to hold the new wine.

Lucy, if salvation is how well your pocketbook is lined, then there are many vile and evil millionaires and billionaires who are saved much better than you. Ken

[LucySmith]

the law of Life in the Spirit. aka the law of god.

Salvation does not consist of obeying certain laws and getting one doctrine or another correct.
It is not the science of getting better.

Salvation is a living thing, and it entails being translated from one world into another world.

Salvation is being saved from something and delivered into something else.
Being saved means the chains and bondage are ended.
By and by, one is brought into new realities.

These realities test and trouble his preconceived religious notions.
He feels himself leaving the one world and entering into the next.
The comforts and pleasures one has become accustomed of their religious knowledge to must be released.
He must let go of the relationships he valued in the first world and completely establish other relationships in the new.

His understanding of what constitutes truth continually changes and expands so that His view of the world now approaches unto the Christ, which is the anointing.
The anointing only has the true view of things as they are. This anointing [ the verb christ]m is what saves a soul and gives him eyes to see what is true.
The new world we are now being introduced to is made of a totally different substance.
Its love is not based on any expectation of return.
There is only God our real father of LIFE
The experience of the new world is completely free flowing.
Our own love is not based on any need.
It only gives.
This love expects nothing in return.
The soul must be empty and yielded for the new world and heavenly existence to appear.
A soul cannot receive the new Husband until the old one has been yielded.
One cannot become the bride of Messiah, until she is no longer the bride of man.
Adultery consists of mixing the two worlds.
They, thereby, becoming adulterated.
It requires a new wineskin altogether in order to hold the new wine.

[ImAHebrew]

There is no condemnation for those who WALK after the Spirit!

but remember YOU ALSO ACCEPT ITS JUDGEMENTS AS WELL - THE 2 GO TOGETHER
never forget Jesus called the law of moses YOUR LAW 6 times and changed it
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Lucy, your problem is the same as those who attacked and falsely accused Stephen....you fail to comprehend the Spiritual Side of Moses' Law. You, like them, only look at the Law of Moses according to it's physical keeping, and this is why you say blasphemous things against Moses, The Law, and Yahweh Elohim. If you could comprehend how every jot and tittle of the Law has a Spiritual Fulfillment, you would stop your teachings about how evil the Law is.

Concerning what you want me to remember, as I said in the above paragraph, I know fully well that each and every command of the Law of Moses has a Spiritual Fulfillment, and those who KNOW this and WALK according to that Spiritual Fulfillment, do not enter into condemnation. It appears that your WALK is in opposition to the Spiritual Fulfillment of the Law of Moses, and this will only cause you tremendous pain and sorrow on the day you kneel in judgment. Ken

P.S. Also, concerning your lack of understanding of HOW Yeshua CHANGED the Law. Let's see. The Law says "Do not commit adultery....but I say unto you, that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart!" Boy, Lucy, look at the BIG change in the Law of Moses. Yeshua has told us that we commit adultery in our hearts, even without the actual sexual event. He did NOT do away with the command, He magnified the Law to give it Spiritual meaning, thus making it honourable:

Isa 42:21 Yahweh (Yeshua) is well pleased for His righteousness’ sake; He will magnify The Law, and make [it] honourable.

[Eliyah]

"I'm sorry you feel that way."

Really Lucy?

sor·ry


/ˈsنrē,ˈsôrē/


adjective

adjective: sorry; comparative adjective: sorrier; superlative adjective: sorriest



1.


feeling distress, especially through sympathy with someone else's misfortune.
"I was sorry to hear about what happened to your family"


synonyms: sad, unhappy, sorrowful, distressed, upset, downcast, downhearted, disheartened, despondent; More
heartbroken, inconsolable, grief-stricken


"I was sorry to hear about his accident"


•full of pity, sympathetic, compassionate, moved, consoling, empathetic, concerned

"he felt sorry for her"



antonyms: glad, unsympathetic



•filled with compassion for.
"he couldn't help feeling sorry for her when he heard how she'd been treated"



•feeling regret or penitence.
"he said he was sorry he had upset me"


synonyms: regretful, remorseful, contrite, repentant, rueful, penitent, apologetic, abject, guilty, ashamed, sheepish, shamefaced
"I'm sorry if I was brusque"



antonyms: unrepentant



•used as an expression of apology.
exclamation: sorry

"sorry—I was trying not to make a noise"



•used as a polite request that someone should repeat something that one has failed to hear or understand.
"Sorry? In case I what?"





2.


in a poor or pitiful state or condition.
"he looks a sorry sight with his broken jaw"


synonyms: pitiful, pitiable, heart-rending, distressing;

https://www.google.com/search?q=sorry&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&gws_rd=ssl

So your in a poor or pitiful state or condition.

Then you have been lying to everyone all along.

[LucySmith]

"I'm sorry you feel that way." elijah

"I'm sorry you feel that way."

[Eliyah]

but remember YOU ALSO ACCEPT ITS JUDGEMENTS AS WELL - THE 2 GO TOGETHER
never forget Jesus called the law of moses YOUR LAW 6 times and changed it
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Lucy,

never forget Jesus called the law of moses YOUR LAW 6 times and changed it

Where did Messiah say that, He changed it , and is this not your words as usual??

[LucySmith]

you have the god of moses ken to worship as you wish

Lucy, those who could not withstand the Spirit and Wisdom of Stephen, secretly had false witnesses claim that he was teaching AGAINST Moses, The Law, and Yahweh Elohim. These false witnesses would not be false witnesses if they were testifying against you:

Acts 6:10 - 6:14

10 Yet they were not able to resist the wisdom and the Spirit with which he (Stephen) spoke.
11 Then they secretly instigated some men to say, “We have heard this man speaking blasphemous words against Moses and Elohim.”
12 They incited the people, the elders, and the experts in the law; then they approached Stephen, seized him, and brought him before the council.
13 They brought forward false witnesses who said, “This man does not stop saying things against this holy place and The Law.
14 For we have heard him saying that Yeshua the Nazarene will destroy this place and change the customs that Moses handed down to us.”

You see my dear, your main doctrine and teaching is AGAINST Moses, The Law, and Yahweh Elohim, therefore, they (Stephen's accusers) would not be false witnesses against you. Ken

but remember YOU ALSO ACCEPT ITS JUDGEMENTS AS WELL - THE 2 GO TOGETHER
never forget Jesus called the law of moses YOUR LAW 6 times and changed it

[ImAHebrew]

Those who falsely accused Stephen, would not be falsely accusing you.

why 70ad happened
zippo
the law of Moses removed never to return

''Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled"

Here He said that the law would not pass away until what?
Until two other things passed away.
What were they?
First, "Till heaven and earth pass;" and, secondly, "till all (the law) be fulfilled."
We know the law was fulfilled in Christ, and all prophecies relating to Israel fulfilled by 70 A.D.
Believers all realize that because of this all the law was now over.
every honest believer in Christ knows this truth
the law of God far different than Moses and the plural angels
gig.

Lucy, those who could not withstand the Spirit and Wisdom of Stephen, secretly had false witnesses claim that he was teaching AGAINST Moses, The Law, and Yahweh Elohim. These false witnesses would not be false witnesses if they were testifying against you:

Acts 6:10 - 6:14

10 Yet they were not able to resist the wisdom and the Spirit with which he (Stephen) spoke.
11 Then they secretly instigated some men to say, “We have heard this man speaking blasphemous words against Moses and Elohim.”
12 They incited the people, the elders, and the experts in the law; then they approached Stephen, seized him, and brought him before the council.
13 They brought forward false witnesses who said, “This man does not stop saying things against this holy place and The Law.
14 For we have heard him saying that Yeshua the Nazarene will destroy this place and change the customs that Moses handed down to us.”

You see my dear, your main doctrine and teaching is AGAINST Moses, The Law, and Yahweh Elohim, therefore, they (Stephen's accusers) would not be false witnesses against you. Ken

[Eliyah]

Shalom Eliyahu, I'm not trying to weasel out of anything, I'm just trying to establish the fact that Paul was saying that Messiah was sent in the "likeness of sinful flesh" FOR or AS a "sin offering," so that sin would be condemned in the flesh. Now, if you can't agree with that, then we have nothing further to discuss about it. Blessings in the Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.

Ken, so your not going to answer question either are you, as I thought.

PS: Then why are you hopscotching from one thread to the next wanting to argue?

[ImAHebrew]

I'm not trying to weasel out of anything.

Ken, all you do is try to weasel your way out of believing the scriptures, and this is WHY you and Spying both will side step or ignore the question and the scriptures.

You can answer my question below, and let's see if you will admit to the truth of scripture as it is written.

For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Romans 8:3.

God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

So tell everyone Mr. pretending Greek professor, if Messiah did not offer up/bear our sins in His own flesh/body on the Tree as the apostle Peter said and wrote in 1 Peter 2:24, then who's sins did He condemn in His own flesh??

This is a simple question Ken, please answer it, don't play your Pharisee games, who's sins did Messiah bear in His own flesh body on the tree?

Or will you play: Oh I can't answer that, so I have tell my own imaginations about it, or I would have to admit to the truth, and I can't do that.

Shalom Eliyahu, I'm not trying to weasel out of anything, I'm just trying to establish the fact that Paul was saying that Messiah was sent in the "likeness of sinful flesh" FOR or AS a "sin offering," so that sin would be condemned in the flesh. Now, if you can't agree with that, then we have nothing further to discuss about it. Blessings in the Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.

[Eliyah]

Good morning Elijah: You are kidding me with that question aren't you? If not; yes I know exactly what the verse means, and no I do not need anyone to explain it to me.

gotta go cook breakfast.

Peach, yes I was kind of kidding you.

[Peach]

Peach,

Hmm, you mean that you figured out what that verse of scripture means all by yourself? Why according to the explainer complainer and his brother Spying verses like these have to be re-interpreted to mean their explainer, explainer made up words of oral traditions, as Spying called it.

Good morning Elijah: You are kidding me with that question aren't you? If not; yes I know exactly what the verse means, and no I do not need anyone to explain it to me.

gotta go cook breakfast.

[Eliyah]

Elijah: Why wont these people admit to the truth? Because 1 Peter 2:24 tells us plainly that Christ bear our own sins in his own body on the cross.

Peach,

Hmm, you mean that you figured out what that verse of scripture means all by yourself? Why according to the explainer complainer and his brother Spying verses like these have to be re-interpreted to mean their explainer, explainer made up words of oral traditions, as Spying called it.

[Eliyah]

Elijah: Why wont these people admit to the truth? Because 1 Peter 2:24 tells us plainly that Christ bear our own sins in his own body on the cross.

Peach,

That's a good question, which I don't think they will answer or admit to, it seems they are anti-Messiah's, because they DENY what He did for them.