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  • #61
    Those who falsely accused Stephen, would not be falsely accusing you.

    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    why 70ad happened
    zippo
    the law of Moses removed never to return

    ''Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled"

    Here He said that the law would not pass away until what?
    Until two other things passed away.
    What were they?
    First, "Till heaven and earth pass;" and, secondly, "till all (the law) be fulfilled."
    We know the law was fulfilled in Christ, and all prophecies relating to Israel fulfilled by 70 A.D.
    Believers all realize that because of this all the law was now over.
    every honest believer in Christ knows this truth
    the law of God far different than Moses and the plural angels
    gig.
    Lucy, those who could not withstand the Spirit and Wisdom of Stephen, secretly had false witnesses claim that he was teaching AGAINST Moses, The Law, and Yahweh Elohim. These false witnesses would not be false witnesses if they were testifying against you:

    Acts 6:10 - 6:14

    10 Yet they were not able to resist the wisdom and the Spirit with which he (Stephen) spoke.
    11 Then they secretly instigated some men to say, “We have heard this man speaking blasphemous words against Moses and Elohim.”
    12 They incited the people, the elders, and the experts in the law; then they approached Stephen, seized him, and brought him before the council.
    13 They brought forward false witnesses who said, “This man does not stop saying things against this holy place and The Law.
    14 For we have heard him saying that Yeshua the Nazarene will destroy this place and change the customs that Moses handed down to us.”

    You see my dear, your main doctrine and teaching is AGAINST Moses, The Law, and Yahweh Elohim, therefore, they (Stephen's accusers) would not be false witnesses against you. Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
    Abstain from meats offered to idols
    (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
    So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    • #62
      you have the god of moses ken to worship as you wish

      Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
      Lucy, those who could not withstand the Spirit and Wisdom of Stephen, secretly had false witnesses claim that he was teaching AGAINST Moses, The Law, and Yahweh Elohim. These false witnesses would not be false witnesses if they were testifying against you:

      Acts 6:10 - 6:14

      10 Yet they were not able to resist the wisdom and the Spirit with which he (Stephen) spoke.
      11 Then they secretly instigated some men to say, “We have heard this man speaking blasphemous words against Moses and Elohim.”
      12 They incited the people, the elders, and the experts in the law; then they approached Stephen, seized him, and brought him before the council.
      13 They brought forward false witnesses who said, “This man does not stop saying things against this holy place and The Law.
      14 For we have heard him saying that Yeshua the Nazarene will destroy this place and change the customs that Moses handed down to us.”

      You see my dear, your main doctrine and teaching is AGAINST Moses, The Law, and Yahweh Elohim, therefore, they (Stephen's accusers) would not be false witnesses against you. Ken
      but remember YOU ALSO ACCEPT ITS JUDGEMENTS AS WELL - THE 2 GO TOGETHER
      never forget Jesus called the law of moses YOUR LAW 6 times and changed it
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      • #63
        Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
        but remember YOU ALSO ACCEPT ITS JUDGEMENTS AS WELL - THE 2 GO TOGETHER
        never forget Jesus called the law of moses YOUR LAW 6 times and changed it
        [ATTACH]331[/ATTACH]
        Lucy,

        never forget Jesus called the law of moses YOUR LAW 6 times and changed it
        Where did Messiah say that, He changed it , and is this not your words as usual??

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        • #64
          "I'm sorry you feel that way." elijah

          "I'm sorry you feel that way."

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          • #65
            Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
            "I'm sorry you feel that way."
            Really Lucy?

            sor·ry


            /ˈsنrē,ˈsôrē/


            adjective

            adjective: sorry; comparative adjective: sorrier; superlative adjective: sorriest



            1.


            feeling distress, especially through sympathy with someone else's misfortune.
            "I was sorry to hear about what happened to your family"


            synonyms: sad, unhappy, sorrowful, distressed, upset, downcast, downhearted, disheartened, despondent; More
            heartbroken, inconsolable, grief-stricken


            "I was sorry to hear about his accident"


            •full of pity, sympathetic, compassionate, moved, consoling, empathetic, concerned

            "he felt sorry for her"



            antonyms: glad, unsympathetic



            •filled with compassion for.
            "he couldn't help feeling sorry for her when he heard how she'd been treated"



            •feeling regret or penitence.
            "he said he was sorry he had upset me"


            synonyms: regretful, remorseful, contrite, repentant, rueful, penitent, apologetic, abject, guilty, ashamed, sheepish, shamefaced
            "I'm sorry if I was brusque"



            antonyms: unrepentant



            •used as an expression of apology.
            exclamation: sorry

            "sorry—I was trying not to make a noise"



            •used as a polite request that someone should repeat something that one has failed to hear or understand.
            "Sorry? In case I what?"





            2.


            in a poor or pitiful state or condition.
            "he looks a sorry sight with his broken jaw"


            synonyms: pitiful, pitiable, heart-rending, distressing;

            https://www.google.com/search?q=sorr...ie7&gws_rd=ssl

            So your in a poor or pitiful state or condition.

            Then you have been lying to everyone all along.

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            • #66
              There is no condemnation for those who WALK after the Spirit!

              Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
              but remember YOU ALSO ACCEPT ITS JUDGEMENTS AS WELL - THE 2 GO TOGETHER
              never forget Jesus called the law of moses YOUR LAW 6 times and changed it
              [ATTACH]331[/ATTACH]
              Lucy, your problem is the same as those who attacked and falsely accused Stephen....you fail to comprehend the Spiritual Side of Moses' Law. You, like them, only look at the Law of Moses according to it's physical keeping, and this is why you say blasphemous things against Moses, The Law, and Yahweh Elohim. If you could comprehend how every jot and tittle of the Law has a Spiritual Fulfillment, you would stop your teachings about how evil the Law is.

              Concerning what you want me to remember, as I said in the above paragraph, I know fully well that each and every command of the Law of Moses has a Spiritual Fulfillment, and those who KNOW this and WALK according to that Spiritual Fulfillment, do not enter into condemnation. It appears that your WALK is in opposition to the Spiritual Fulfillment of the Law of Moses, and this will only cause you tremendous pain and sorrow on the day you kneel in judgment. Ken

              P.S. Also, concerning your lack of understanding of HOW Yeshua CHANGED the Law. Let's see. The Law says "Do not commit adultery....but I say unto you, that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart!" Boy, Lucy, look at the BIG change in the Law of Moses. Yeshua has told us that we commit adultery in our hearts, even without the actual sexual event. He did NOT do away with the command, He magnified the Law to give it Spiritual meaning, thus making it honourable:

              Isa 42:21 Yahweh (Yeshua) is well pleased for His righteousness’ sake; He will magnify The Law, and make [it] honourable.
              Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

              Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
              Abstain from meats offered to idols
              (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
              So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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              • #67
                the law of Life in the Spirit. aka the law of god.

                Salvation does not consist of obeying certain laws and getting one doctrine or another correct.
                It is not the science of getting better.

                Salvation is a living thing, and it entails being translated from one world into another world.

                Salvation is being saved from something and delivered into something else.
                Being saved means the chains and bondage are ended.
                By and by, one is brought into new realities.

                These realities test and trouble his preconceived religious notions.
                He feels himself leaving the one world and entering into the next.
                The comforts and pleasures one has become accustomed of their religious knowledge to must be released.
                He must let go of the relationships he valued in the first world and completely establish other relationships in the new.

                His understanding of what constitutes truth continually changes and expands so that His view of the world now approaches unto the Christ, which is the anointing.
                The anointing only has the true view of things as they are. This anointing [ the verb christ]m is what saves a soul and gives him eyes to see what is true.
                The new world we are now being introduced to is made of a totally different substance.
                Its love is not based on any expectation of return.
                There is only God our real father of LIFE
                The experience of the new world is completely free flowing.
                Our own love is not based on any need.
                It only gives.
                This love expects nothing in return.
                The soul must be empty and yielded for the new world and heavenly existence to appear.
                A soul cannot receive the new Husband until the old one has been yielded.
                One cannot become the bride of Messiah, until she is no longer the bride of man.
                Adultery consists of mixing the two worlds.
                They, thereby, becoming adulterated.
                It requires a new wineskin altogether in order to hold the new wine.

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                • #68
                  Salvation?

                  Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                  Salvation does not consist of obeying certain laws and getting one doctrine or another correct.
                  It is not the science of getting better.

                  Salvation is a living thing, and it entails being translated from one world into another world.

                  Salvation is being saved from something and delivered into something else.
                  Being saved means the chains and bondage are ended.
                  By and by, one is brought into new realities.

                  These realities test and trouble his preconceived religious notions.
                  He feels himself leaving the one world and entering into the next.
                  The comforts and pleasures one has become accustomed of their religious knowledge to must be released.
                  He must let go of the relationships he valued in the first world and completely establish other relationships in the new.

                  His understanding of what constitutes truth continually changes and expands so that His view of the world now approaches unto the Christ, which is the anointing.
                  The anointing only has the true view of things as they are. This anointing [ the verb christ]m is what saves a soul and gives him eyes to see what is true.
                  The new world we are now being introduced to is made of a totally different substance.
                  Its love is not based on any expectation of return.
                  There is only God our real father of LIFE
                  The experience of the new world is completely free flowing.
                  Our own love is not based on any need.
                  It only gives.
                  This love expects nothing in return.
                  The soul must be empty and yielded for the new world and heavenly existence to appear.
                  A soul cannot receive the new Husband until the old one has been yielded.
                  One cannot become the bride of Messiah, until she is no longer the bride of man.
                  Adultery consists of mixing the two worlds.
                  They, thereby, becoming adulterated.
                  It requires a new wineskin altogether in order to hold the new wine.
                  Lucy, if salvation is how well your pocketbook is lined, then there are many vile and evil millionaires and billionaires who are saved much better than you. Ken
                  Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                  Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                  Abstain from meats offered to idols
                  (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                  So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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                  • #69
                    poor ken

                    Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
                    Lucy, if salvation is how well your pocketbook is lined, then there are many vile and evil millionaires and billionaires who are saved much better than you. Ken
                    its not the riches Ken
                    its the blessing they bring under the Saviours hand and how HE WILL USE THEM to BLESS OTHERS
                    remember Ken
                    when i offered you my beach house to stay there for as long as you and your wife wished but you declined
                    and dear pal Spying
                    i offered to set him up as a concreter many years ago he too declined


                    you dont know anything of MY SALVATION AND ITS LIVING REALITY and its prospering of my spirit soul and body so why SLIME?

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