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  • a disagreement over a book not one people saw as an eye witness account is a USELESS

    EXERCISE
    people all over this world believe in BOOKS and still die and have gross deformed lives in most instances
    '' the books'' are believed... is mind boggling insanity~~~ and a propaganda to ''keep the masses under control''

    not 1 person has ever eye witnesses anything remotely found inside the pages of these holy books
    not 1 person has ever lived the same life as these holy books proclaim

    the whole thing is deception on the grandest scale and with NO EYE WITNESSES TO PROVE OR DISPROVE ANY WRITTINGS.




    '''the whole world is a cage and the monkey holds the keys.''

  • #2
    to disagree over something we never witnesses for ourselves is folly

    we are in no position to see true/false facts for ourselves

    from recorded church history

    Constantine saw in this developing system of belief the opportunity to make a combined state religion and protect it by law. The first general church council was thus convened and the year was 325.
    *
    On 21 June, the day of the Summer Solstice, (and under those cult conditions) a total of 2048 "presbyters, deacons, sub-deacons, acolytes and exorcists" gathered at Nicaea to decide what Christianity really was, what it would be, what writings were to be used and who was to be it's God.
    *
    Ancient church evidence established that a new 'god' was to be approved by the Roman Emperor and an earlier attempt (circa 210) to deify either Judas Khrestus or his twin brother Rabbi Jesus (or somebody else) had been
    Therefore, as late as 325, the Christian religion did not have an official god.

    After a long and bitter debate, a vote was finally taken and it was with a majority show of hands that Judas Khrestus and Rabbi Jesus both became God (161votes for and 157 votes against).
    The Emperor effectively joined elements of the two individual life stories of the twin brothers into a singular creation.
    The doctrine of the Celtic / British church of the west was democratically attached to the Presbyters stories of the east.

    A deification ceremony was then performed 'Apotheosis'.
    Thus the deified ones were then called 'saviours' and looked upon as gods.
    Temples, altars, and images with attributes of divinity were then erected and public holidays proclaimed on their birthdays.

    Following the original example set by the deification of Caesar, their funerals were dramatized as the scene of their resurrection and immortality.
    All these godly attributes passed as a legal right to Emperor Constantine's new deity, Jesus Christ.


    were you there NO
    were you part of this group NO
    the ''beginnings of the book'' are as follows After a long and bitter debate - the roots of evil debate of disharmony are still bitter and long - the fruits of the whole book
    I resign from an exercise in stupidity

    why are you interested then in the teaching from a corrupted bible filled with disagreements dualism and murder.
    '' the whole world is a cage and the monkey holds the key''

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    • #3
      their long and bitter debates proved worthless...................... why

      the reprobates despite all their clerical titles aka THE WOLF PACK = didn't have a clue to the REALITY OF ETERNAL SALVATION in their lives
      [they would have been better leading a football club]

      saul was leader of the WOLF PACK~~~~
      THE TRIBE OF BENJAMIN: A “WOLFPACK” FROM THE NORTH


      true salvation is the learning that teaches how to overcome this world, but it is much easier said than done.
      so few know this learning how it is done

      the Knowledge of Salvation.
      Once this knowledge is obtained, it must be successfully implemented.
      There are few seekers.
      There are even fewer seekers who stick with it long enough to obtain the Knowledge of Salvation.
      There are even fewer who successfully act on that knowledge to obtain salvation.

      The true, sincere seeker know the odds are slim, but must try.
      Last edited by LucySmith; 02-14-2018, 02:54 AM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
        the reprobates despite all their clerical titles aka THE WOLF PACK = didn't have a clue to the REALITY OF ETERNAL SALVATION in their lives
        [they would have been better leading a football club]

        saul was leader of the WOLF PACK~~~~
        THE TRIBE OF BENJAMIN: A “WOLFPACK” FROM THE NORTH


        true salvation is the learning that teaches how to overcome this world, but it is much easier said than done.
        so few know this learning how it is done

        the Knowledge of Salvation.
        Once this knowledge is obtained, it must be successfully implemented.
        There are few seekers.
        There are even fewer seekers who stick with it long enough to obtain the Knowledge of Salvation.
        There are even fewer who successfully act on that knowledge to obtain salvation.

        The true, sincere seeker know the odds are slim, but must try.
        Lucy, you have thrown away the only true book of life saving knowledge, and your not even been granted conversion or repentance Acts 3:19; Acts 11:18; 1 John 3:4, and you run around this forum pretending that you have and are.

        You see Mr. Pharisee Spying will not tell you this truth, because he has no backbone, he's a gutless wonder, a dog that cannot bark, a spineless jellyfish.

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        • #5
          blah blah blah

          Originally posted by Eliyah
          The monkey holds the key according you, and who are you calling a monkey Mrs. make believe?

          I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Rev.1:18.

          The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

          But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. 2 Peter 2:9-10.

          and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
          words words words

          you cannot prove 1 thing from these words.
          nothing

          what verses you have chosen is MIND CONTROL that now doesn't work
          why?
          A FEAR BASED RELIGIOUS fear mongering
          how you love your fears

          as for the other section its church history and can be proven -

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          • #6
            the ROOT CAUSE.....

            the missing links -the NT never reveals in FULL DETAIL HOW to CONTAIN ZOE life here

            consider this please before you cast a stone
            the revelation I am giving is honest and true -
            the fruit of the characters is revealed and only the HOLY SPIRIT can reveal the fruits and the MISSING LINKS.

            every post I make is to find out why christianity doesn't actually work in all people's lives as they live the same as the unchurched
            -same problems
            -same illness
            -same chaos
            -same strife
            - in all nations no matter what their personal belief


            the root cause is this
            the books were chosen by ''the dying clergy'' WITHOUT ANY ANOINTING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
            how do you know this Lucy?

            they came together in BITTER DEBATES- is a group UNanointed to make any choices at all.

            the NT never fully reveals HOW SALVATION WORKS,
            AND
            HOW TO SUCCEED in receiving our true SALVATION into IMMORTAL life here called ETERNAL ZOE LIFE.
            OH YES there are small droppings of truth but NO FULL ON VITAL INFORMATION - but diversions - so many ''diversions'' away from the TRUTH THAT SET MEN FREE.

            THE OBJECT IS to CROSS OVER successfully INTO THE KINGDOM REALM HERE.
            BECOME ALIVE.
            nice words few do.

            BTW
            it is no good of you ''castrating'' me over the truth
            but for 2000yrs GROSS deception RULES THE CHURCH and the world and satan love its.

            '''BITTER DEBATING'' the cornerstone of evil - MAKES FOR A BITTER CHURCH - AS ITS BEGINNINGS OF '' THE BIBLE''
            - NONE OF THIS BEARS THE CHARACTER
            NOR FRUIT OF ABBA our true Father~~~~

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            • #7
              the beginning of bible gathering history began with BITTER DEBATERS

              Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
              the missing links -the NT never reveals in FULL DETAIL HOW to CONTAIN ZOE life here

              consider this please before you cast a stone
              the revelation I am giving is honest and true -
              the fruit of the characters is revealed and only the HOLY SPIRIT can reveal the fruits and the MISSING LINKS.

              every post I make is to find out why christianity doesn't actually work in all people's lives as they live the same as the unchurched
              -same problems
              -same illness
              -same chaos
              -same strife
              - in all nations no matter what their personal belief


              the root cause is this
              the books were chosen by ''the dying clergy'' WITHOUT ANY ANOINTING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
              how do you know this Lucy?

              they came together in BITTER DEBATES- is a group UNanointed to make any choices at all.

              the NT never fully reveals HOW SALVATION WORKS,
              AND
              HOW TO SUCCEED in receiving our true SALVATION into IMMORTAL life here called ETERNAL ZOE LIFE.
              OH YES there are small droppings of truth but NO FULL ON VITAL INFORMATION - but diversions - so many ''diversions'' away from the TRUTH THAT SET MEN FREE.

              THE OBJECT IS to CROSS OVER successfully INTO THE KINGDOM REALM HERE.
              BECOME ALIVE.
              nice words few do.

              BTW
              it is no good of you ''castrating'' me over the truth
              but for 2000yrs GROSS deception RULES THE CHURCH and the world and satan love its.

              '''BITTER DEBATING'' the cornerstone of evil - MAKES FOR A BITTER CHURCH - AS ITS BEGINNINGS OF '' THE BIBLE''
              - NONE OF THIS BEARS THE CHARACTER
              NOR FRUIT OF ABBA our true Father~~~~
              2 words sums up CHURCH BIBLE HISTORY - BITTER DEBATERS.

              HIDDEN INSIDE 2 WORDS IS 3 OTHER WORDS A BRAT BREED

              WORD meaning for BRAT
              brat
              a child,
              typically one that is badly behaved.
              synonyms
              badly behaved child,
              spoilt child;
              rascal,
              wretch,
              a horror;
              I can write this sentence, giving understanding now of those BITTER DEBATERS AS - ''compliers of NT bible scrolls''

              ''THOSE COMPLIERS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT BIBLE CONTAINING 26 BOOKS BEHAVED AS WRETCHED RASCALS AND SPOILT CHILDREN.''

              THEREFORE the foundation of this compilation would result in

              A BREED of WRETCHED RASCALS who live in a horror existence
              - exactly as the pews live in - a nightmare and a pretend belief that fails, when most needed.

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              • #8
                A BREED of WRETCHED RASCALS who live in a horror existence ..............corrupted

                only a feW years ago did people discover our DNA
                ALSO
                THEY FOUND OUT THE DNA CAN BE CHANGED BY OUR NEW mind/thinking POWER.

                A FEW WELL CONSTRUCTED SENTENCES swings the mind to gaining understanding - this in turn then changes the pattern of our DNA

                i shall write this again

                A FEW WELL CONSTRUCTED SENTENCES swings the mind to gaining understanding
                A FEW WELL CONSTRUCTED SENTENCES swings the mind to gaining understanding

                the satanic object then would be TO REMOVE THESE ''WELL CONSTRUCTED VERSES''
                the satanic object then would be TO REWORD THESE ''WELL CONSTRUCTED VERSES'' SO THEY LOOSE THEIR TRUE MEANINGS

                the BITTER DEBATERS have chosen from a DYING system of words/scrolls/letters so that our DNA is not altered back into its perfect blueprint by a new revelAtion for the NEW CREATURE.
                BIBLE READING MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR A NEW LIVING CREATURE TO BE FORMED.

                NOT ONE PERSON reading the bible can ever be changed into the image of Christ here- as history proves

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                  only a feW years ago did people discover our DNA
                  ALSO
                  THEY FOUND OUT THE DNA CAN BE CHANGED BY OUR NEW mind/thinking POWER.

                  A FEW WELL CONSTRUCTED SENTENCES swings the mind to gaining understanding - this in turn then changes the pattern of our DNA

                  i shall write this again

                  A FEW WELL CONSTRUCTED SENTENCES swings the mind to gaining understanding
                  A FEW WELL CONSTRUCTED SENTENCES swings the mind to gaining understanding

                  the satanic object then would be TO REMOVE THESE ''WELL CONSTRUCTED VERSES''
                  the satanic object then would be TO REWORD THESE ''WELL CONSTRUCTED VERSES'' SO THEY LOOSE THEIR TRUE MEANINGS

                  the BITTER DEBATERS have chosen from a DYING system of words/scrolls/letters so that our DNA is not altered back into its perfect blueprint by a new revelAtion for the NEW CREATURE.
                  BIBLE READING MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR A NEW LIVING CREATURE TO BE FORMED.

                  NOT ONE PERSON reading the bible can ever be changed into the image of Christ here- as history proves
                  Lucy,

                  The world's people have went to hell in a hand basket with all kinds of violence and murder, because they do not read the Bible, and children's IQ dropped drastically when the Bible was outlawed in public schools in the 60s in the USA.

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                  • #10
                    Messiah said:

                    But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it. Luke 11:28.

                    He NEVER said: blessed are they that throw the word of God away.

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                    • #11
                      he is not speaking of a DEFORMED corrupted version of letters Elijah

                      Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
                      Messiah said:

                      But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it. Luke 11:28.

                      He NEVER said: blessed are they that throw the word of God away.

                      the people are dying like flies of war sickness diseases the same as the ''unsaved'''
                      you and millions like you read the NT and live exactly the same as the ''unsaved''

                      HIS WORD IS NOT ALL, IN THE NT - history proves ''''they'''' destroyed and burnt the basic originals................that is a true fact you cannot deny elijah

                      MRS BROWN died and not 1 person could help her and she was ''the churched'' and quiet possibly read her bible... nothing saved her.
                      every prayer ever said over her failed.

                      THAT IS NOT THE GOSPEL.
                      the truth seekers HAVE TO FIND THE TRUTH out for themselves = ITS NOT SITTING THERE LIKE A RED CHERRY WAITING TO BE EATEN.


                      and stop making the bible an idol~~~~
                      very wicked men ''put it together'' WITH BITTER DEBATES -------------------NOT THE workings of His HOLY SPIRIT.
                      Last edited by LucySmith; 02-15-2018, 11:19 PM.

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                      • #12
                        what is MISSING in the NT because of BITTER debates [no holy spirit] to correct is

                        a divine essence is '''' "spiritual technology''

                        the missing link that makes a soul perfect - has been lost/removed/ or hidden so that A FORM IS MAINTAINED but never the real thing.
                        ''THE FORM'' IS HONOURED AND IGNORANCE REMAINS.
                        THE TRUTH SEEKER is LOOKING FOR AND ENQUIRING INTO "spiritual technology''
                        Within the truth seekers lies the power to change the entire world for the good and for godliness

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                        • #13
                          I quoted Luke 11:28 for a reason Lucy.

                          Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                          he is not speaking of a DEFORMED corrupted version of letters Elijah

                          the people are dying like flies of war sickness diseases the same as the ''unsaved'''
                          you and millions like you read the NT and live exactly the same as the ''unsaved''

                          HIS WORD IS NOT ALL, IN THE NT - history proves ''''they'''' destroyed and burnt the basic originals................that is a true fact you cannot deny elijah

                          MRS BROWN died and not 1 person could help her and she was ''the churched'' and quiet possibly read her bible... nothing saved her.
                          every prayer ever said over her failed.

                          THAT IS NOT THE GOSPEL.
                          the truth seekers HAVE TO FIND THE TRUTH out for themselves = ITS NOT SITTING THERE LIKE A RED CHERRY WAITING TO BE EATEN.


                          and stop making the bible an idol~~~~
                          very wicked men ''put it together'' WITH BITTER DEBATES -------------------NOT THE workings of His HOLY SPIRIT.
                          And Mrs. make believe Lucy, I quoted Luke 11:28 for a reason, and so according to you even Messiah Himself is corrupted too?

                          I will quote this verse and another again with another English word translated at the end of the verses.

                          And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it(Him =Strong's G846 - autos αὐτός). Luke 8:21.

                          But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it(Him =Strong's G846 - autos αὐτός). Luke 11:28.

                          αὐτός autَs, ow-tos'; from the particle αὖ aû (perhaps akin to the base of G109 through the idea of a baffling wind) (backward); the reflexive pronoun self, used (alone or in the comparative G1438) of the third person , and (with the proper personal pronoun) of the other persons:—her, it(-self), one, the other, (mine) own, said, (self-), the) same, ((him-, my-, thy- )self, (your-)selves, she, that, their(-s), them(-selves), there(-at, - by, -in, -into, -of, -on, -with), they, (these) things, this (man), those, together, very, which. Compare G848.

                          http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...ngs=G846&t=KJV

                          As Mr. thinks he's a Greek professor would say.

                          So tell Mrs. make believe Lucy, how do you hear Him the word of God and do Him, if you think His written word is corrupt, as you do?

                          Oh I can't answer that question without having to agree, so I will pretend to ignore it as usual.
                          you and millions like you read the NT and live exactly the same as the ''unsaved''
                          Well, your thousands of miles away from me, you don't live around me here, as I you, so how would you even know how I live, or me you?

                          Oh I can't answer that question without having to agree with you, so I will pretend to ignore it as usual.
                          MRS BROWN died and not 1 person could help her and she was ''the churched'' and quiet possibly read her bible... nothing saved her.
                          every prayer ever said over her failed.
                          Including your prayers too, so don't leave yourself out.

                          THAT IS NOT THE GOSPEL.
                          the truth seekers HAVE TO FIND THE TRUTH out for themselves = ITS NOT SITTING THERE LIKE A RED CHERRY WAITING TO BE EATEN.
                          His word is the truth John 17:17, and what other way is there to find the truth, by running all over the internet believing every Tom, Dick, and Harry like you do??

                          Oh I can't answer that question without having to agree with you, so I will pretend to ignore it as usual.
                          and stop making the bible an idol~~~~
                          very wicked men ''put it together'' WITH BITTER DEBATES
                          If I'm making the scriptures an idol, I'm in good company, as Messiah Himself said to search them John 5:39, and He said to live by them Deuteronomy 8:3; Matt.4:4; Luke 4:4.

                          But Mrs. make believe Lucy does not believe Messiah's words that disagree with her, and if the written word is corrupt as you THINK, then why are you still believing John 10V10??

                          Oh I can't answer that question without having to agree with you, so I will pretend to ignore it as usual.

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                          • #14
                            the hidden and or missing instructions

                            not to read the truth
                            BUT TOO FIND IT.
                            well Elijah can write all the verses he wants and they don't work.. and repeat them over and over and zippo .


                            IAH will verify to this as his dear wife is now in her tomb
                            so when the chips are down the verses never worked... the conclusion is
                            .I guess IAH never said a prayer over his dear wife Mrs Brown because they were never answered



                            the saddest time - our sympathy~~~~

                            the INSTRUCTIONS COME FROM A BITTER SOURCE FROM AN UNANOINTED CLERY DURING BITTER DEBATES = the whole book = bitterness = THAT IS THE ROOT OF ITS BEGINNING the fuits of bitterness is to believe something then find it never worked
                            2 many sick upset and dying people - billions have found it never worked
                            the instruction book has been tampered with and the vital goodnews removed/destroyed
                            what has been taken out/ removed/ burnt is SPIRITUAL TECHNOLOGY = HOW IT WORKS.



                            ''FOLLOW ME''...............cries Yeshua into SPIRITUAL TECHNOLOGY not other mens letters

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                            • #15
                              what is it?

                              Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                              not to read the truth
                              BUT TOO FIND IT.
                              well Elijah can write all the verses he wants and they don't work.. and repeat them over and over and zippo .


                              IAH will verify to this as his dear wife is now in her tomb
                              so when the chips are down the verses never worked... the conclusion is
                              .I guess IAH never said a prayer over his dear wife Mrs Brown because they were never answered



                              the saddest time - our sympathy~~~~

                              the INSTRUCTIONS COME FROM A BITTER SOURCE FROM AN UNANOINTED CLERY DURING BITTER DEBATES = the whole book = bitterness = THAT IS THE ROOT OF ITS BEGINNING the fuits of bitterness is to believe something then find it never worked
                              2 many sick upset and dying people - billions have found it never worked
                              the instruction book has been tampered with and the vital goodnews removed/destroyed
                              what has been taken out/ removed/ burnt is SPIRITUAL TECHNOLOGY = HOW IT WORKS.



                              ''FOLLOW ME''...............cries Yeshua into SPIRITUAL TECHNOLOGY not other mens letters


                              follow me = into the divine
                              SCIENCE OF TRANSFORMATION

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