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  • Yeshua said ''FOLLOW ME'' - QUESTION- is the whole bible a CORRUPTED WORK?

    the church as a whole is well trained to believe and presume the whole bible is '' the WORD OF GOD'' and totally true~~

    Most pew people DARE NOT QUESTION if parts of the whole bible is missing or if it has many man made ideas inserted.
    the response is
    holy horror
    DONT GO DOWN THAT ROAD you reprobate- when I tell of '' the diamonds [ the truth] and the dung [man inserted ideas]'' are there.

    HAS THE BIBLE BEEN FAITHFULLY PRESERVED?
    yet
    what is ''the fruits'' [from the ancient past till now] of LOVE JOY AND PEACE AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN?
    why do people still die IN sin?
    why are women still 2nd classed citizens?
    why are most prayers not answered?
    1 billion souls live as Christians and they live the same lives as to '' the lost''
    * they still die in their sins
    * they still live in poverty and lack
    * they still have sickness and death in their lives
    * the lost and the churched still sit in the Drs surgery and still visit the funeral homes - side by side
    * they still cause strife and destroy each other in wars and hatefilled families.

    if you wish to stop living in the lie of vanity
    and
    Then get rid of that lifestyle of needs and condemnation you need to ask some serious questions of ''WHY IT IS SO''?

    is the bible as a manual tipped towards DEATH AND FAILURE
    rather than
    revealing the TRUE LIFE AND ITS DIVINE REWARDS.

  • #2
    Yeshua never said the word was corrupted as you do.

    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    the church as a whole is well trained to believe and presume the whole bible is '' the WORD OF GOD'' and totally true~~

    Most pew people DARE NOT QUESTION if parts of the whole bible is missing or if it has many man made ideas inserted.
    the response is
    holy horror
    DONT GO DOWN THAT ROAD you reprobate- when I tell of '' the diamonds [ the truth] and the dung [man inserted ideas]'' are there.

    HAS THE BIBLE BEEN FAITHFULLY PRESERVED?
    yet
    what is ''the fruits'' [from the ancient past till now] of LOVE JOY AND PEACE AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN?
    why do people still die IN sin?
    why are women still 2nd classed citizens?
    why are most prayers not answered?
    1 billion souls live as Christians and they live the same lives as to '' the lost''
    * they still die in their sins
    * they still live in poverty and lack
    * they still have sickness and death in their lives
    * the lost and the churched still sit in the Drs surgery and still visit the funeral homes - side by side
    * they still cause strife and destroy each other in wars and hatefilled families.

    if you wish to stop living in the lie of vanity
    and
    Then get rid of that lifestyle of needs and condemnation you need to ask some serious questions of ''WHY IT IS SO''?

    is the bible as a manual tipped towards DEATH AND FAILURE
    rather than
    revealing the TRUE LIFE AND ITS DIVINE REWARDS.
    Lucy,

    Yeshua never said the word was corrupted as you do, and the millions of professing Christians are like you, they do not read the scriptures, and they do not believe them either.

    And that is WHY the transgressors are almost come to the full.

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    • #3
      Repeat, repeating again Lucy.

      Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
      the church as a whole is well trained to believe and presume the whole bible is '' the WORD OF GOD'' and totally true~~

      Most pew people DARE NOT QUESTION if parts of the whole bible is missing or if it has many man made ideas inserted.
      the response is
      holy horror
      DONT GO DOWN THAT ROAD you reprobate- when I tell of '' the diamonds [ the truth] and the dung [man inserted ideas]'' are there.

      HAS THE BIBLE BEEN FAITHFULLY PRESERVED?
      yet
      what is ''the fruits'' [from the ancient past till now] of LOVE JOY AND PEACE AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN?
      why do people still die IN sin?
      why are women still 2nd classed citizens?
      why are most prayers not answered?
      1 billion souls live as Christians and they live the same lives as to '' the lost''
      * they still die in their sins
      * they still live in poverty and lack
      * they still have sickness and death in their lives
      * the lost and the churched still sit in the Drs surgery and still visit the funeral homes - side by side
      * they still cause strife and destroy each other in wars and hatefilled families.

      if you wish to stop living in the lie of vanity
      and
      Then get rid of that lifestyle of needs and condemnation you need to ask some serious questions of ''WHY IT IS SO''?

      is the bible as a manual tipped towards DEATH AND FAILURE
      rather than
      revealing the TRUE LIFE AND ITS DIVINE REWARDS.
      Repeating again Lucy,

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      • #4
        notice JESUS never wrote anything down personally that is recorded for us to learn

        Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
        the church as a whole is well trained to believe and presume the whole bible is '' the WORD OF GOD'' and totally true~~

        Most pew people DARE NOT QUESTION if parts of the whole bible is missing or if it has many man made ideas inserted.
        the response is
        holy horror
        DONT GO DOWN THAT ROAD you reprobate- when I tell of '' the diamonds [ the truth] and the dung [man inserted ideas]'' are there.

        HAS THE BIBLE BEEN FAITHFULLY PRESERVED?
        yet
        what is ''the fruits'' [from the ancient past till now] of LOVE JOY AND PEACE AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN?
        why do people still die IN sin?
        why are women still 2nd classed citizens?
        why are most prayers not answered?
        1 billion souls live as Christians and they live the same lives as to '' the lost''
        * they still die in their sins
        * they still live in poverty and lack
        * they still have sickness and death in their lives
        * the lost and the churched still sit in the Drs surgery and still visit the funeral homes - side by side
        * they still cause strife and destroy each other in wars and hatefilled families.

        if you wish to stop living in the lie of vanity
        and
        Then get rid of that lifestyle of needs and condemnation you need to ask some serious questions of ''WHY IT IS SO''?

        is the bible as a manual tipped towards DEATH AND FAILURE
        rather than
        revealing the TRUE LIFE AND ITS DIVINE REWARDS.

        from.
        yet HE SAID 'FOLLOW ME''
        how is a believer to do this
        Yeshua choses them to BE QUICKENED into divine life here~
        AND THIS MEANS THE Christ power IN INSERTED, INTO THEIR LIVES AS A WITNESS TO THIS ETERNAL GIFT [zoe life]
        This power is called Christ and is VERB or a doing word and another term is BEGOTTEN

        '' THIS DAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN THEE'' - the Christ power enters in to quicken out from death[vanity/matrix] realm and into the DIVINE KINGDOM REALM OF LOVE JOY GOODWILL AND PEACE abounding in abundant life~~~here and now.

        IT IS A TRAINING CAMP for his people~ and doesn't inc the church groups of divisions and war [Rev 3v 17]

        so
        The Christ power is called the holy spirit.
        and his names and fruit to a believer are as follows.
        guide +Comforter give Counsel + Advocate wisdom: are just a few titles of a DIVINE TEACHER YESHUA told |His believer he would send to us.
        this is not a man,
        but an essence containing the power of LIFE as a spirit of ABUNDANCE
        nor is it part of a trinity of gods.
        YES some parts of the bible are diamonds yes indeed but also some are dung.... and its seems its the DUNG that the church majors in.
        OTHERWISE they would never be what Jesus called them all as
        WRETCHED people
        NAKED people
        BLIND people
        MISERABLE.people

        as per Rev 3 v 17

        why is your life a misery when things go wrong
        why are you naked and blind
        why are you wretched with worry sickness poverty etc -when you are supposed to dwell in the divine kingdom of abundance

        because you believe bible and church lies and have made them your standards of truth

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
          from.
          yet HE SAID 'FOLLOW ME''
          how is a believer to do this
          Yeshua choses them to BE QUICKENED into divine life here~
          AND THIS MEANS THE Christ power IN INSERTED, INTO THEIR LIVES AS A WITNESS TO THIS ETERNAL GIFT [zoe life]
          this power is called Christ and is VERB or a doing word and another term is BEGOTTEN

          '' THIS DAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN THEE'' - the Christ power enters in to quicken out from death[vanity/matrix] realm and into the DIVINE KINGDOM REALM OF LOVE JOY GOODWILL AND PEACE abounding in abundant life~~~here and now.

          IT IS A TRAINING CAMP for his people~ and doesn't inc the church groups of divisions and war [rev 3v 17]

          so
          the Christ power is called the holy spirit.
          and his names and fruit to a believer are as follows.
          guide +Comforter give Counsel + Advocate wisdom: are just a few titles of a DIVINE TEACHER YESHUA told |His believer he would send to us.
          this is not a man,
          but an essence containing the power of LIFE as a spirit of ABUNDANCE
          nor is it part of a trinity of gods.
          YES some parts of the bible are diamonds yes indeed but also some are dung.... and its seems its the DUNG that the church majors in. OTHERWISE they would never be
          WRETCHED
          NAKED
          BLIND
          MISERABLE.

          as per rev 3 v 17
          Lucy,

          Why do you leave out this part below of this verse?

          Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing;

          Is it because this describes your same boasting all the time, so you have to omit this part of the verse?

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          • #6
            Rev.3:17

            First these people are boasting Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing;

            and know not that thou/you art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

            and know not

            Hmm, now why would they not know it???

            Could it be, that they THINK to themselves that they are ok, and are part of the redeemed, since they are rich in this world's wealth, and they do not have to ask nothing of anyone??

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            • #7
              First these people are boasting Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing;

              and know not that thou/you art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

              and know not

              Hmm, now why would they not know it???

              Could it be, that they THINK to themselves that they are ok, and are part of the redeemed, since they are rich in this world's wealth, and they do not have to ask nothing of anyone??

              i prove i am rich daily elijahsin

              as I walk in every way possible as HIS true way and narrow path = in HIS DIVINE REALM AND LACK NOTHING
              Hmm, your words and lack nothing; sounds exactly as have need of nothing and know not that thou/you art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: above.

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              • #8
                what is the true state of these 3 men as examples of their ''tribulations''

                Originally posted by LucySmith
                as you are bible readers

                why do you dwell in sickness?
                why is Mrs Brown lay dying,
                Why is Spying divorce and estranged from most of his family especially his grandbabies
                why is ElijahSin crippled and unemployed and married 2x
                why is IAH [ snippet man] living above his means and is in debt for a aged man.

                some leading question
                s for those bible readers AS THEIR lives appear CURSED rather than blessed with divine POWER LIFE AND LOVE

                ofcourse
                the boys shall bring up their verses [dung] to show how much they enjoy their personal '''TRIBULATIONS''
                ................ they are worthy to be ''TRIBULATED'' and rejoice in it

                lets see
                IAH is watching his ''tribulation'' of his wife dying.
                - did those verses he quotes in each post really work?
                IAH is watching his debts as his ''tribulation'' and working hard for an older man.

                ElijhaSin is crippled with a stick, and unemployable - he loves his'' tribulations''.
                ask
                why wasn't he perfectly healed and put back into the employment scene to help himself and give out to others from his abundant life.

                Spying
                been sexless for years, without a wife he divorced - and a fat belly - must be an awesome'' tribulation''
                his family filled with abuses and strife - a great tribulation.

                ask
                WHY DO THESE PEOPLE AS BIBLE BELIEVERS have so much TRIBULATION when THEY SHOULD BE AND COULD BE WALKING IN THE PRESENCE OF THEIR SAVIOUR daily
                and
                HIM GUIDING AND DIRECTION ALL THEIR ACTION WITH HIS STILL SMALL VOICE.

                well THE ANSWR IS SIMPLE
                they don't hear.
                they read and stay the same as the lost and heathens - no difference at all.

                BTW the proof is....
                the MUSLIMS will have the same ''tribulations'' and they read their books too.

                the MUSLIM MEN all have the same TRIBULATIONS - too...
                Debt

                Death
                Needs never met
                prayers go unawered
                sickness
                etc


                hey- THE MUSLIMS read the ''holy book'' too.

                what is the real truth about bible reading
                what is the real truth about these corrupted verses and MISSING MESSAGES AND JESUS TRUE LIFE SUPPORTING INSTRUCTIONS

                what is SPYING'S PROBLEM?
                WHAT IS ELIJAHSIN PROBLEM?
                WHAT IS MR SNIPPETS PROBLEM?

                they are tainted with the same cursed thing
                their bible reading kills them
                what?
                in nutshell
                The Letter That Killeth
                Why Bible Can't Be Read Literally

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                • #9
                  learning about ....''MR CAPTAIN OBVIOUS'' aka THE KEY OF KNOWLEDGE

                  The Fourth Century Church of Constantine threw away the Key Of Knowledge that Yeshua warned was necessary to enter into the Kingdom Within.


                  In throwing away the Key of Knowledge, and living in accordance with their own manmade doctrines and traditions, Christians have made themselves apostates to the Kingdom of God:

                  “Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge; you did not enter in yourselves, and those who were entering in you hindered” (Luke 11:52).
                  And thus, while Christians attempt to read the scriptures, they see not!
                  And while they hear some of the oracles of the Living Word, their ears are remain deaf.
                  And while they attempt to embrace the Living Word, in the manner of the Sadducees and Pharisees they understand it not -- because their hearts have been hardened from the teachings of Yeshua/Jesus and his exampled life


                  whom do they follow?
                  so they remain with
                  NO LOVE
                  NO GOODWILL TOWARDS OTHERS
                  NO JOY

                  Their fruits..................a butchered up life of religious bible readings
                  these 3 men have butchered up their lives with bible reading they failed to understand.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                    the MUSLIM MEN all have the same TRIBULATIONS - too...
                    Debt

                    Death
                    Needs never met
                    prayers go unawered
                    sickness
                    etc


                    hey- THE MUSLIMS read the ''holy book'' too.

                    what is the real truth about bible reading
                    what is the real truth about these corrupted verses and MISSING MESSAGES AND JESUS TRUE LIFE SUPPORTING INSTRUCTIONS

                    what is SPYING'S PROBLEM?
                    WHAT IS ELIJAHSIN PROBLEM?
                    WHAT IS MR SNIPPETS PROBLEM?

                    they are tainted with the same cursed thing
                    their bible reading kills them
                    what?
                    in nutshell
                    The Letter That Killeth
                    Why Bible Can't Be Read Literally
                    Sorry for not answering sooner, I had a call from the Holy Land, and could not let it go.

                    And Lucy, why do you accuse me of the problems that you have, or otherwise you would not have written it?

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                    • #11
                      ''captain obvious'' aka - the key of knowledge is missing

                      Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                      The Fourth Century Church of Constantine threw away the Key Of Knowledge that Yeshua warned was necessary to enter into the Kingdom Within.


                      In throwing away the Key of Knowledge, and living in accordance with their own manmade doctrines and traditions, Christians have made themselves apostates to the Kingdom of God:



                      And thus, while Christians attempt to read the scriptures, they see not!
                      And while they hear some of the oracles of the Living Word, their ears are remain deaf.
                      And while they attempt to embrace the Living Word, in the manner of the Sadducees and Pharisees they understand it not -- because their hearts have been hardened from the teachings of Yeshua/Jesus and his exampled life


                      whom do they follow?
                      so they remain with
                      NO LOVE
                      NO GOODWILL TOWARDS OTHERS
                      NO JOY

                      Their fruits..................a butchered up life of religious bible readings
                      these 3 men have butchered up their lives with bible reading they failed to understand.


                      lets us take a case now at point
                      MRS BROWN SICK AND DYING=

                      HER HUSBAND IAH - has been a churched member for many long years
                      studying His law of Moses and other creeds
                      sat under Herbert Armstrong teachings and others
                      reads the bible and I guess loves jesus in a JUDAS MANNER ofcourse

                      now for ''CAPTAIN OBVIOUS'' QUESTION - WHY does he suffer desperation now after his ''faithfull service'' to his god?
                      why is he now facd with a tragic event that even
                      the MUSLIMS
                      THE JAPANESE
                      THE CHINESE etc - all suffer from
                      LOSS
                      LOSS
                      LOSS

                      WHY ISN'T IAH DIFFERENT
                      WHY DOESN'T he radiate the very presence of Yeshua and make the devil and death.....................flee?

                      beause he remains a DEAD LETTER MAN
                      as do most pew peoples.

                      and
                      it is very very sad to see such a wasted belief bearing such DIRE RESULTS to others near and dear.
                      just a mess

                      JESUS WEPT.

                      the boys can now trot out all their wee verses in denial
                      why
                      but satan wins and death and sickness rules over them.

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                      • #12
                        Your dying slowly too Lucy...

                        Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                        lets us take a case now at point
                        MRS BROWN SICK AND DYING=

                        HER HUSBAND IAH - has been a churched member for many long years
                        studying His law of Moses and other creeds
                        sat under Herbert Armstrong teachings and others
                        reads the bible and I guess loves jesus in a JUDAS MANNER ofcourse

                        now for ''CAPTAIN OBVIOUS'' QUESTION - WHY does he suffer desperation now after his ''faithfull service'' to his god?
                        why is he now facd with a tragic event that even
                        the MUSLIMS
                        THE JAPANESE
                        THE CHINESE etc - all suffer from
                        LOSS
                        LOSS
                        LOSS

                        WHY ISN'T IAH DIFFERENT
                        WHY DOESN'T he radiate the very presence of Yeshua and make the devil and death.....................flee?

                        beause he remains a DEAD LETTER MAN
                        as do most pew peoples.

                        and
                        it is very very sad to see such a wasted belief bearing such DIRE RESULTS to others near and dear.
                        just a mess

                        JESUS WEPT.

                        the boys can now trot out all their wee verses in denial
                        why
                        but satan wins and death and sickness rules over them.
                        Your dying slowly too Lucy, but the sad part is, that you lie to yourself and say: Why I'm immortal, and I'm gonna live forever, why I can leap tall buildings in a single bound, but really I can't even hop a foot off the ground.

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                        • #13
                          the dead letter readers/ the man made inserts/ the missing verse

                          missing verse

                          Where Is Zacharias?

                          Yeshua stated:
                          "That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar"
                          Mt 23:35
                          and
                          Lk 11:51
                          -- yet,
                          the account of Zacharias is missing from our modern Bible.

                          The Church Father Origen stated the account which Yeshua made reference to in the above, was removed by many of the scribes of the Church, but could still be found in non-canonical scriptures that had escaped being corrupted.
                          [The account of Zacharias and many other crucial teachings have been removed from our Bibles]
                          hmmm
                          did Saul the apostle Paul who renamed himself
                          tell us
                          '' there is no man called righteous no not one''
                          seems SAUL made a boo boo.. aka .... everyone a born sinner and defiled
                          ask?
                          was his version and what'' was revealed to him by a ''jesus'' the truth

                          from Roms 3 v 10
                          As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;
                          really????

                          perhaps he is the ancient version of a religious joker named Benny Hinns????
                          Benny has a ''magic white coat'' and he flings it out and everyone falls down.

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                          • #14
                            Repeating again about your jilted lover messiah Paul...

                            Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                            missing verse

                            Where Is Zacharias?



                            -- yet,
                            the account of Zacharias is missing from our modern Bible.

                            The Church Father Origen stated the account which Yeshua made reference to in the above, was removed by many of the scribes of the Church, but could still be found in non-canonical scriptures that had escaped being corrupted.
                            [The account of Zacharias and many other crucial teachings have been removed from our Bibles]
                            hmmm
                            did Saul the apostle Paul who renamed himself
                            tell us
                            '' there is no man called righteous no not one''
                            seems SAUL made a boo boo.. aka .... everyone a born sinner and defiled
                            ask?
                            was his version and wha t'' was revealed to him by a ''jesus'' the truth


                            really????
                            Repeating again about your jilted lover messiah Paul that you love to steal his words, then turn around and condemn him, as you are a true hypocrite.

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                            • #15
                              If you follow Yeshua, why do you not do as He said to do?

                              Lucy,

                              Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. Matthew 19:22-23.

                              But when the old woman heard that saying, she went away sorrowful: for she had great possessions.

                              If you follow Yeshua, why do you not do as He said to do?

                              You see, whatever is written in the scriptures that does not agree with Lucy, then she calls it dung.

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