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  • #31
    Ken, did you not say this?
    P.S. I don't need a 1000 irrelevant Scriptures thrown at me,
    Then if you don't want scriptures, then go argue with yourself, or maybe Spying, because he too lives by his own imaginations.
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
      Shalom Eliyahu, Spying very clearly told you that on his confirmation (8th grade) he was given an RSV translation of the Bible. I’m not sure what version of the Bible that was in our house growing up, but when I was started to be converted I used the NIV, but after I found out a few things, I use just about all the translations I can reference. Thanks for asking. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
      Ken,

      Which Bible did your Mother and Dad use?
      A bit of revelation for ye.

      Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

      By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
        Ken, I have already gave you Messiah's own words in my first post on this thread as my answer.
        Shalom Eliyahu, are not these YOUR words. In this post you state nothing about the Scriptures, just “my first post on this thread.” So you became a little vague by changing what I was to look at...your first post, or your first post with Scriptures, BUT I have to say, you have failed again to answer my question as to what “crucifying the Son of Elohim AFRESH” means. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
        Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

        Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
        Abstain from meats offered to idols         (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
        So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
          What has happened to her Ken?

          And as I said: Then have her read my first post of scriptures in this thread, because that is my answer.
          This was my answer Ken, and you playing a Pharisee with my words don't help you any, and playing Spying's child of hell games.
          A bit of revelation for ye.

          Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

          By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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          • #35
            And Ken,

            When you find a text of scripture saying, that we took Yah'Shua's life, be sure to show it to everyone.
            A bit of revelation for ye.

            Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

            By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
              This was my answer Ken, and you playing a Pharisee with my words don't help you any, and playing Spying's child of hell games.
              Shalom Eliyahu, that was my point, you had a NON answer, only what you could say it DIDN’T mean, not what it meant. But that’s ok, someday you may be blessed to have an answer. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
              Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

              Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
              Abstain from meats offered to idols               (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
              So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
                And Ken,

                When you find a text of scripture saying, that we took Yah'Shua's life, be sure to show it to everyone.
                Shalom Eliyahu, and you be sure to find me a text of Scripture which states that no one pierced Him. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
                Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                Abstain from meats offered to idols                 (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
                  Shalom Eliyahu, and you be sure to find me a text of Scripture which states that no one pierced Him. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
                  Ken, I thought you said, that you did not wont any scriptures?
                  A bit of revelation for ye.

                  Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                  By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
                    Ken, I thought you said, that you did not wont any scriptures?
                    Shalom Eliyahu, you became confused again and misquoted me. I did not say I didn’t want any Scriptures, I said I didn’t need a 1000 irrelevant Scriptures thrown at me. Hopefully that clarifies to you what I want and need from you. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
                    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                    Abstain from meats offered to idols                     (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                    So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
                      Shalom Eliyahu, you became confused again and misquoted me. I did not say I didn’t want any Scriptures, I said I didn’t need a 1000 irrelevant Scriptures thrown at me. Hopefully that clarifies to you what I want and need from you. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
                      Really? Well I thought all scriptures were relevant, and which scriptures are irrelevant to you?
                      A bit of revelation for ye.

                      Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                      By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
                        Really? Well I thought all scriptures were relevant, and which scriptures are irrelevant to you?
                        And Ken,

                        Maybe you should go argue with Lucy, about your life now.
                        A bit of revelation for ye.

                        Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                        By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
                          Really? Well I thought all scriptures were relevant, and which scriptures are irrelevant to you?
                          Shalom Eliyahu, the irrelevant Scriptures are the Scriptures that you will quote in trying to “not” answer my question, and in fact all they do is just give an irrelevant answer that tells me what doesn’t answer my question. Case in point. I ask you to explain to me the meaning of Heb 6:6 concerning Yeshua being crucified “afresh” or “again” by those who fall away AFTER knowing the TRUTH about what their sin did to Yeshua, and you quote me Scriptures which tells me what it DOESN’T mean. Those Scriptures which tell me what it DOESN’T mean are “irrelevant” in answering my question. Hopefully that clarifies it for you so that you can tell the difference between a Scripture that is relevant in answering a question, and one that is irrelevant in not answering the question. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
                          Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                          Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                          Abstain from meats offered to idols                           (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                          So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
                            Shalom Eliyahu, the irrelevant Scriptures are the Scriptures that you will quote in trying to “not” answer my question, and in fact all they do is just give an irrelevant answer that tells me what doesn’t answer my question. Case in point. I ask you to explain to me the meaning of Heb 6:6 concerning Yeshua being crucified “afresh” or “again” by those who fall away AFTER knowing the TRUTH about what their sin did to Yeshua, and you quote me Scriptures which tells me what it DOESN’T mean. Those Scriptures which tell me what it DOESN’T mean are “irrelevant” in answering my question. Hopefully that clarifies it for you so that you can tell the difference between a Scripture that is relevant in answering a question, and one that is irrelevant in not answering the question. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
                            Ken,

                            So Yah'Shua Messiah's own words are irrelevant to you, well, I'm sure the scriptures are also irrelevant to the "christmass" bunch too.
                            A bit of revelation for ye.

                            Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                            By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
                              Ken,

                              So Yah'Shua Messiah's own words are irrelevant to you, well, I'm sure the scriptures are also irrelevant to the "christmass" bunch too.
                              Shalom Eliyahu, Yeshua's word's are not irrelevant, but those who try to answer what "crucifying the Son of Elohim AFRESH" means with words from Yeshua that do NOT explain what that means, makes their whole explanation irrelevant. Your interpretation of Yeshua's words in telling us what "crucifying the Son of Elohim AFRESH" DOESNT mean, is a bunch of irrelevant side stepping and non answering. Hopefully, Yeshua and His Spirit will guide you to someday give a relevant answer. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
                              Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                              Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                              Abstain from meats offered to idols                               (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                              So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
                                Shalom Eliyahu, Yeshua's word's are not irrelevant, but those who try to answer what "crucifying the Son of Elohim AFRESH" means with words from Yeshua that do NOT explain what that means, makes their whole explanation irrelevant. Your interpretation of Yeshua's words in telling us what "crucifying the Son of Elohim AFRESH" DOESNT mean, is a bunch of irrelevant side stepping and non answering. Hopefully, Yeshua and His Spirit will guide you to someday give a relevant answer. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
                                Ken,

                                Please go argue with your perpetual life now partners.
                                A bit of revelation for ye.

                                Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                                By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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