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  • Create in Me a Clean Heart, O ELOHIM!

    Hi to all the Substitutionalists of this world, that is, Hi to all the former members of the Worldwide Church of God, Hi to all Lutherans, Hi to all Jehovah's Witnesses, Hi to all Mormons, Hi to all Baptists, Hi to all Methodists, Hi to all Roman Catholics, Hi to all the Greek Orthodox, Hi to the Church of England, and Hi to any other denomination which espouses Substitutionalism,

    Shabbat Shalom to all Sabbath Keepers as well as to all Sabbath Breakers!

    The Apostle Paul clearly taught that My Messiah Yahushua died according to the Scriptures. It is beyond dispute that the Prophet David in one of the more famous of his Psalms said this about sacrifice:

    Psalms 51:16-17
    16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
    17 The sacrifices of ELOHIM are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O ELOHIM, thou wilt not despise.

    Why is it that anyone would believe in substitutional sacrifice for their sin given the clear statement of the Prophet David above? How is it that YAHWEH ELOHIM would take any pleasure or satisfaction in sacrifice when YAHWEH does not delight in burnt offering?

    Did YAHWEH ELOHIM delight in the death of Messiah Yahushua on HIS Cross? If so, then why did the Day become dark, and why did Messiah Yahushua say this from HIS Cross:

    Mark 15:33-34
    33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.
    34 And at the ninth hour Yahushua cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My ELOHIM, My ELOHIM, why hast thou forsaken me?

    If YAHWEH ELOHIM took delight in the suffering and death of My Messiah Yahushua, why did YAHWEH ELOHIM forsake My Messiah Yahushua as HE suffered and died?
    Is Lucy the only substitutionalist who will come here and defend her false faith? Where are all the brave substitutionalists out of all the denominations above?

    Thanking any Substitutionalist willing to give a response, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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    The sacrifices of ELOHIM are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O ELOHIM

    The sacrifices of ELOHIM are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O ELOHIM, thou wilt not despise.
    hmmm
    such pretty words all in a line
    they kinda roll of the religious tongue like ''pearls before swine''

    I wonder how it feels to give a ''broken spirit'' TO YOUR OWN FAMILY...
    satan must sure ''reward'' such endeavours
    how does it feel lying there alone in your bed, no wife no children as comfort and family unity, but the homeless relative you played a part in destroying [yet not as much a your pious bro IAH]
    I guess it doesn't worry you at all hey man.

    what is this person called without Empathy? = soulless?.
    WHO STOLE YOUR SOUL SPYING... It sure as eggs wasn't Yeshua.
    WHO GOBBLED YOU UP FOR his breakfast?
    it starts with S and ends with N....
    who gives you your ''victim'' status?

    some say when a man drowns his whole life is previewed as it flashes before his eyes..............we don't have to drown Spying to see your '''RELIGIOUS BELIEFS'' you concocted up in your spare time destroying your lifeform.
    your time would have better spent, playing football, atleast that way you would wouldn't be ''tubby'' Brown

    pull that plug laddy on what is destroying your soul... fast

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    • #3
      A Clean Heart For The Sabbath Breaker!

      Hi My Dear Lucy,
      Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

      Yep. as of late I have been rather tubby. Would you care to show me in the Scriptures where it is a sin to be tubby? I can show you in the Scriptures real easy where it is a sin to not remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy! Your Sabbath Breaking makes you very guilty before YAHWEH ELOHIM. Can you tell me how the substitutional death of My Messiah Yahushua gives you a clean heart concerning your Sabbath Breaking before YAHWEH ELOHIM?

      Thanking you in advance should you be willing to prove to me how your heart have been cleansed of your Sabbath Breaking, I am,
      Sincerely, Latuwr
      The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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      • #4
        i do keep the NC sabbath Spying....

        Originally posted by Spying View Post
        Hi My Dear Lucy,
        Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

        Yep. as of late I have been rather tubby. Would you care to show me in the Scriptures where it is a sin to be tubby? I can show you in the Scriptures real easy where it is a sin to not remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy! Your Sabbath Breaking makes you very guilty before YAHWEH ELOHIM. Can you tell me how the substitutional death of My Messiah Yahushua gives you a clean heart concerning your Sabbath Breaking before YAHWEH ELOHIM?

        Thanking you in advance should you be willing to prove to me how your heart have been cleansed of your Sabbath Breaking, I am,
        Sincerely, Latuwr
        you have no leg to stand upon but the unholy indoctrination of Herbert A and his ''do it my way or else'' and then went dancing and fornicating with the little under aged daughter on a Friday night ~~~~~

        and as for your tubby frame it is called gluttony as Jesus never walked around with a fat gut overspilling his pants nor daring even to wear dirty sox and smelly underwear

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        • #5
          Comprehension Of Sins!

          Hi Lucy,

          Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

          Perhaps, the physical Sabbath Day is not the only thing which you have forgotten. Do you remember this?:

          Matthew 11:19

          19 The Son of the Man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

          And this:

          John 15:20

          20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

          How do you know that when Mr. Armstrong was breaking the physical Sabbath Day that he was not also like yourself actually keeping a New Testament Sabbath? Perhaps, in the back of your mind, you are forced to remember that breaking the physical Sabbath Day is a sin; otherwise, why open the mouth to accuse? Perhaps, you might also like to explain to us your relationship with your father. It seems that you have an awareness of sin there also!

          Thanking you in advance for your remembrance, I am,

          Sincerely, Latuwr
          The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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          • #6
            hey lets stay with the theme of your '''''pure heart'''

            Spying. i want to investigate your supposed claim here...
            now as i see it, YOU selected a religion habit from the jewish faith that died in 70ad, and now claim, to have life now here and today i need to keep this jewish saturday '' dont do anything fest'' to remain pure and undefiled

            why so? notice not once did Jesus tell anyone to do this - not 1 verse why why why to you put words in HIS MOUTH
            hey hey hey = here is why
            because Herbert Armstrong convinced you to do so... you resisted for quiet a while not seeing the need for this habit in your life but caved in under devilish pressures.
            [according to your testimony]
            now, having received the ''deceiving spirit'' over this matter of Armstrongism, you now copy his dragon breathing ''you sinner you'' tactic on me but it will never work.

            he copied it from the SDA who copied it from some guru called Miller... yet.... this was never a church habit as the disciples gathered each day in homes together sharing and caring....[ a form of communism] and on a sunday as well testified too.

            then ofcourse we have your beloved 13th apostle - a unique title only given to 12 people- a truth you fail to see as well, saying ''judge no man on sabbath keeping'' [ rah rah rah] but here you go, proving you fail to understand the verses - only according to how Armstrong taught you.
            it wont wash
            He fool millions yourself included and your brothers as well.
            not only this deception to boot but also as you sat under his power some relations also received his paedaphia tendencies as well...[ a dire warning to mind whom ye listen to and serve] a double wammy

            yet you are too ignorant to see THE NEW COVENANT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A DAY but with a person
            now all your rants on your ''pure heart'' do not mean anything when you have destroyed your family and relations by religious evil and wrong choices.

            for practical purposes IF YOU PRAYED FOR THIS PURE HEART = is a long long time in coming, as you leave dead relationships in your wake
            giVe it all up you are wasting your time, with whatever your weird belief is = it fails the PRACTICAL TEST

            ALLOW me to correct you again - i do follow the NC sabbath. amen with joy... a truth you have never received.

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            • #7
              what is this clean heart?

              it will be a heart that chooses to do the exact opposite to the heart of satan.
              satan's heart we are told is to kill harm and destroy...AKA...the BROKENHEARTED

              SATAN HAS A BROKEN HEART a loveless heart that sets out to harm another person/animal/nation and to be the source of great suffering and misery
              in interesting verse is ''satan roams as a roaring lion round seeking those whom he shall devour.''
              seeking food for a hungry old lion without many strong teeth because that is what very old lions do roar TO FRIGHTEN.

              so ask this WHAT FRIGHTENS YOU,
              AND fear stems from LOSS.

              THE LOSS OF SOMETHING CAUSES FEARS.

              ON the reverse side a clean-heart or the cleanhearted.. remain OUTSIDE OF FEAR and outside of LOSS.
              WHY so?
              because THE SAVIOUR HAS BECOME THE TRUE SHEPHERD WHO LOOKS AFTER HIS SHEEP with abundant life here,
              what is this abundant life entail.?
              THE SUFFICIENCY TO HAVE AND THEN GIVE OUT ABUNDANTLY TO OTHERS. SO NONE LACK OR SUFFER LOSS

              THIS IS HOW YESHUA FEED THE 5000 THAT DAY....HE GAVE OUT FROM HIMSELF TO OTHERS
              THE roaring lion never made Yeshua his meal.

              when you have traits of selfish unloving bitter and fearfull lives - satan is devouring you
              when you have traits of unloveable behaviours that cause harm to others - satan is devouring you
              when you stand up for downright lies and false information- satan is devouring you
              when you create tension by your behaviour and stir up troubles - satan is devouring you

              yes satan has lots more practice than you, and when you see these traits within yourself know it is not even possible to have a clean heart.
              .

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                it will be a heart that chooses to do the exact opposite to the heart of satan.
                satan's heart we are told is to kill harm and destroy...AKA...the BROKENHEARTED

                SATAN HAS A BROKEN HEART a loveless heart that sets out to harm another person/animal/nation and to be the source of great suffering and misery
                in interesting verse is ''satan roams as a roaring lion round seeking those whom he shall devour.''
                seeking food for a hungry old lion without many strong teeth because that is what very old lions do roar TO FRIGHTEN.

                so ask this WHAT FRIGHTENS YOU,
                AND fear stems from LOSS.

                THE LOSS OF SOMETHING CAUSES FEARS.

                ON the reverse side a clean-heart or the cleanhearted.. remain OUTSIDE OF FEAR and outside of LOSS.
                WHY so?
                because THE SAVIOUR HAS BECOME THE TRUE SHEPHERD WHO LOOKS AFTER HIS SHEEP with abundant life here,
                what is this abundant life entail.?
                THE SUFFICIENCY TO HAVE AND THEN GIVE OUT ABUNDANTLY TO OTHERS. SO NONE LACK OR SUFFER LOSS

                THIS IS HOW YESHUA FEED THE 5000 THAT DAY....HE GAVE OUT FROM HIMSELF TO OTHERS
                THE roaring lion never made Yeshua his meal.

                when you have traits of selfish unloving bitter and fearfull lives - satan is devouring you
                when you have traits of unloveable behaviours that cause harm to others - satan is devouring you
                when you stand up for downright lies and false information- satan is devouring you
                when you create tension by your behaviour and stir up troubles - satan is devouring you

                yes satan has lots more practice than you, and when you see these traits within yourself know it is not even possible to have a clean heart.
                .
                ON the reverse side a clean-heart or the cleanhearted.. remain OUTSIDE OF FEAR and outside of LOSS.
                WHY so?
                because THE SAVIOUR HAS BECOME THE TRUE SHEPHERD WHO LOOKS AFTER HIS SHEEP with abundant life here,
                what is this abundant life entail.?
                THE SUFFICIENCY TO HAVE AND THEN GIVE OUT ABUNDANTLY TO OTHERS. SO NONE LACK OR SUFFER LOSS
                Lucy, what of your substance have you given to others?? And what have YOU ever lost to even learn the lesson of loss, because it's those who have lost something, that can learn the lesson of loss, like Job did??

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