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  • are you a disciple of Moses or Jesus? NOW................... that is the ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PsRar6A1k

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    The Goodness of God teachings are intended to reveal the true nature of our Father and clear away evil misunderstandings. Profound mysteries will be resolved in this teaching series and you will be set free from the Evil Old Testament God, as well as misunderstandings in the New Testament, such as eternal punishment by fire. As we see the goodness of God more clearly, our love for Him will increase, and our faith will become more effective because doubts about His character will be cleared away. Amen!

  • #2
    THE ABOMINATION of cruelty in animal sacrifices

    Jesus BRINGS LIFE = there is NO power of death to rule over HIM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHtOT7Y1vII

    we see the goodness of God more clearly, our love for Him will increase, and our faith will become more effective because doubts about His character will be cleared away. Amen!

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    • #3
      the NEW COVENANT reveals OUR CREATOR FATHER,

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuOB4jX1HIk

      The Goodness of God teachings are intended to reveal the true nature of our Father and clear away evil misunderstandings. Profound mysteries will be resolved in this teaching series and you will be set free from the Evil Old Testament God, as well as misunderstandings in the New Testament, such as eternal punishment by fire. As we see the goodness of God more clearly, our love for Him will increase, and our faith

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      • #4
        Bobby Collier is completely being led by a deceiving and false spirit.

        Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PsRar6A1k

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        The Goodness of God teachings are intended to reveal the true nature of our Father and clear away evil misunderstandings. Profound mysteries will be resolved in this teaching series and you will be set free from the Evil Old Testament God, as well as misunderstandings in the New Testament, such as eternal punishment by fire. As we see the goodness of God more clearly, our love for Him will increase, and our faith will become more effective because doubts about His character will be cleared away. Amen!
        Hi Lucy, I went to listened to Bobby Collier and he is so uttlerly deceived and mislead by a lying and deceiving spirit, I am astonished at you to have posted his link here. I did post a comment at that youtube link to Bobby, and this is what I asked him, and I also ask it of YOU:

        Shalom GG, how do you explain the One True Gospel that is ACCORDING to what Moses WROTE? Has your mind been "opened" to understand what Moses WROTE? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

        Luke 24:27, Luke 24:32, Luke 24:44-46, Acts 26:22, Acts 28:23, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
        He (Bobby) teaches that Yahweh, who gave Moses the Law, is EVIL. How is it that Yeshua would "open" His Disciples minds to what Moses WROTE concerning His suffering, death, burial, and third day resurrection, IF Yahweh was EVIL, and the Law of Moses was EVIL? It is evident to any rational mind that Bobby is delusional. Ken
        Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

        Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
        Abstain from meats offered to idols
        (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
        So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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        • #5
          really IAH

          i thought it was fantastic to see the real characters of the Gods....
          and I do hope the blinders are removed to see how evil has always been worshipped as ''goodness''.
          When we see destruction killing rape and murder - we know who is in control..... amen

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          • #6
            Lucy, you are wearisome!

            Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
            i thought it was fantastic to see the real characters of the Gods....
            and I do hope the blinders are removed to see how evil has always been worshipped as ''goodness''.
            When we see destruction killing rape and murder - we know who is in control..... amen
            Hi Lucy, here is a good description of you and your buddy Bobby:

            Mal 2:17
            (17) Ye have wearied Yahweh with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied Him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of Yahweh, and He delighteth in them; or, Where is the Elohim of judgment?

            You see Lucy, you and Bobby declare that breaking the Law of Moses is GOOD and trying to KEEP the Law of Moses is evil. And then you declare there will not be an Elohim of Judgment. Why do you weary Yahweh with your words and false teachings? Ken
            Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

            Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
            Abstain from meats offered to idols
            (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
            So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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            • #7
              IAH cannot keep the law of Moses but he peddles it anyways....

              https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%...ED94887CF26A6A

              to be set FREE AND REDEEMED.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PsRar6A1k

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                The Goodness of God teachings are intended to reveal the true nature of our Father and clear away evil misunderstandings. Profound mysteries will be resolved in this teaching series and you will be set free from the Evil Old Testament God, as well as misunderstandings in the New Testament, such as eternal punishment by fire. As we see the goodness of God more clearly, our love for Him will increase, and our faith will become more effective because doubts about His character will be cleared away. Amen!
                are you a disciple of Moses or Jesus? NOW................... that is the ?
                No, the question to ask is, did Moses believe in Messiah, and Who really was the Deity of the old testament?

                Witness 1 and 2, Messiah and the apostle John.

                Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 8:58; See also Exodus 3:14-15.

                Witness 3, the apostle Paul.

                And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. Gal.3:17.

                By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter;

                Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;

                Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.
                Hebrews 11:24-26.

                That is 3 witnesses, and it's good enough for me, but there are more.

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                • #9
                  Lucy, your buddy Bobby believes in the Apostle Paul!

                  Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                  Hi Lucy, your buddy Bobby believes in the Apostle Paul. He even thinks Paul wrote the book of Hebrews. Here is a quote from him:

                  Hi Marlies, Paul did write the book of Hebrews to the Hebrews to deal with specific issues; however, the book has relevance for all of us, in particular if we are facing similar situations. You will notice that Paul uses exceedingly more OT scripture in this book vs any other because it would be familiar to his audience and enable him to make his points well with them.
                  Boy o boy Lucy, here you are going to have another false teacher telling you about the Apostle Paul, whom you disdain. Ken
                  Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                  Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                  Abstain from meats offered to idols
                  (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                  So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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                  • #10
                    true IAH

                    but what you fail to recognise IAH, is it only takes a little rat poison, to leaven the lump.
                    but you haven't figured it out yet,

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                      but what you fail to recognise IAH, is it only takes a little rat poison, to leaven the lump.
                      but you haven't figured it out yet,
                      Lucy,

                      What you fail to recognize, is that when you espouse others false beliefs, that your espousing rat poison too.

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                      • #12
                        YAHWEH ELOHIM Is A Good ELOHIM!

                        Hi Lucy,
                        Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

                        Generally speaking, I do not like links posted to this forum. I allow it, but some links cross way over my inner sense of what is right and wrong. It is way past what is proper to posts links to this forum which speak of YAHWEH ELOHIM as being evil. The ELOHIM of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob appeared to Moses, and this same ELOHIM both spoke and wrote the Ten Words (Commandments) on two stone tablets in his presence. Does your inner self which tells you that incest is wrong and evil, does this inner self also tell you that the Ten Words are evil and wrong? If not, then it is high time that you adjust your thinking about what is right and wrong, about what is good and about what is evil.

                        Thanking you in advance should you listen to and follow this instruction, I am,
                        Sincerely, Latuwr

                        1 Chronicles 16:34
                        34 O give thanks unto YHWEH; for he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever.
                        The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                        • #13
                          i suppose Spying it all depends upon what type of BONDAGE one is under

                          Originally posted by Spying View Post
                          Hi Lucy,
                          Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

                          Generally speaking, I do not like links posted to this forum. I allow it, but some links cross way over my inner sense of what is right and wrong. It is way past what is proper to posts links to this forum which speak of YAHWEH ELOHIM as being evil. The ELOHIM of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob appeared to Moses, and this same ELOHIM both spoke and wrote the Ten Words (Commandments) on two stone tablets in his presence. Does your inner self which tells you that incest is wrong and evil, does this inner self also tell you that the Ten Words are evil and wrong? If not, then it is high time that you adjust your thinking about what is right and wrong, about what is good and about what is evil.

                          Thanking you in advance should you listen to and follow this instruction, I am,
                          Sincerely, Latuwr

                          1 Chronicles 16:34
                          34 O give thanks unto YHWEH; for he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever.
                          you wish to be in bondage to the law of Moses and when this is pointed out you turn a blind eye.
                          I however don't wish to remain a captive to a law, that was cruel and evil in many respects.
                          as pointed out in the links very clearly and concisely.... the game is up Spying...the LIES revealed... the Hoax exposed.
                          if you wish to remain a captive so be it.....but consider this.... your life as a testimony up too this present time reveals you're a captive.... but if this is your wish so be it.

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                          • #14
                            Lucy And The Paidagogos!

                            Hi Lucy,
                            Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

                            You wrote and asserted this concerning me:

                            "you wish to be in bondage to the law of Moses and when this is pointed out you turn a blind eye."

                            When have I ever turned a blind eye to the Word of ELOHIM? I see that it is high time that I remind you of the arguments which I presented to you years ago. These arguments were so successful that you were forced to discredit the Apostle Paul because the arguments which I used were actually from him, and they were foolproof.

                            The Apostle Paul taught the Law, that is our Paidagogos, was made to deliver us unto Messiah Yahushua. Now, many in false Christianity interpret this to mean simply that the Law teaches us that we are sinners and, therefore, we must turn to Messiah Yahushua to deliver us from the penalty of our sin through his substitutional death as a sacrifice for our sin. This thinking is totally false.

                            A Paidagogos was a slave who was entrusted with his master's son to escort these sons to school and then home again. Now, get this picture. Here is Lucy walking to school along with the Paidagagos. The Paidagogos knows the way to the Teacher, and Lucy without repeated practice does not have a clue. If you come to an intersection, and the Paidagogos commands you to turn right, Lucy, and you determine in your mind, that is, your inner sense tells you that you can turn left, will you ever arrive at school, that is, will you ever arrive at Messiah Yahushua. No one can come to Messiah Yahushua without following the instructions of our Paidagogos.

                            This means, Dear Lucy, if you are ever to arrive at Messiah, then eventually you must obey your Paidagogos and remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy as the Paidagogos commands.

                            These are the arguments of the Apostle Paul which forced you to discredit him so that you could continue in your sin of Sabbath Breaking.

                            Now, is their anything more that you feel the need to instruct me concerning bondage?

                            Thanking you in advance for your compliance in not teaching that My YAHWEH ELOHIM is evil, I am,
                            Sincerely, Latuwr
                            The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                            • #15
                              i had NO need to discredit Saul Spying

                              Originally posted by Spying View Post
                              Hi Lucy,
                              Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

                              You wrote and asserted this concerning me:

                              "you wish to be in bondage to the law of Moses and when this is pointed out you turn a blind eye."

                              When have I ever turned a blind eye to the Word of ELOHIM? I see that it is high time that I remind you of the arguments which I presented to you years ago. These arguments were so successful that you were forced to discredit the Apostle Paul because the arguments which I used were actually from him, and they were foolproof.

                              The Apostle Paul taught the Law, that is our Paidagogos, was made to deliver us unto Messiah Yahushua. Now, many in false Christianity interpret this to mean simply that the Law teaches us that we are sinners and, therefore, we must turn to Messiah Yahushua to deliver us from the penalty of our sin through his substitutional death as a sacrifice for our sin. This thinking is totally false.

                              A Paidagogos was a slave who was entrusted with his master's son to escort these sons to school and then home again. Now, get this picture. Here is Lucy walking to school along with the Paidagagos. The Paidagogos knows the way to the Teacher, and Lucy without repeated practice does not have a clue. If you come to an intersection, and the Paidagogos commands you to turn right, Lucy, and you determine in your mind, that is, your inner sense tells you that you can turn left, will you ever arrive at school, that is, will you ever arrive at Messiah Yahushua. No one can come to Messiah Yahushua without following the instructions of our Paidagogos.

                              This means, Dear Lucy, if you are ever to arrive at Messiah, then eventually you must obey your Paidagogos and remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy as the Paidagogos commands.

                              These are the arguments of the Apostle Paul which forced you to discredit him so that you could continue in your sin of Sabbath Breaking.

                              Now, is their anything more that you feel the need to instruct me concerning bondage?

                              Thanking you in advance for your compliance in not teaching that My YAHWEH ELOHIM is evil, I am,
                              Sincerely, Latuwr


                              saul [who renamed himself Paul] did an EXCELLENT job of SELF ADVERTISING himself = declared 22 times '' I am an apostle''
                              He mixed veins of truth with ancient playwriters..... sigh....and the ancients whom he preached too knew he was ''off''

                              again I do keep the NT Sabbath Spying as I continually remind you.

                              and come clean dear pal...
                              YOUR account on LA states 'you didn't want to worship on the Sabbath Saturday and you resisted this
                              UNTIL
                              your hero Herbert Amrstrong came along and CONVINCED YOU to do so
                              ofcourse he was more powerful over you and you couldn't resist his influences so back into the law of moses you galloped
                              NOW THAT IS THE REAL TRUTH.. from your own posts

                              so don't huff and puff over me dear laddy.... as you never take things HEAD ON and nor use DIVINE intelligence to WORK IT THROUGH CORRECTLY
                              ACTS 15 stands as a beacon - did you pull the page out?

                              now because I REFUSE TO BE LAMPOONED into the apostate ministry of Herbert Armstrong and his twists and theories = I BECOME ''MRS BAD GUY.''................ so be it.

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