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  • to those who despise the religious church and their propaganda of death....

    the truth is
    there is a NEW LIFE FORMED AS A NEW CREATION, FROM A NEW COVENANT and you will never hear it sitting in a church jailhouse on a pew seat.



    The Doctrine of Death

    If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
    John 8:51
    Yeshua sayings revolve around the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN - He preached and nothing else.....

    The statements of Jesus concerning eternal life were so startling to the hearers of his day that they thought him insane and dangerous and sought to kill him.

    We must ask ourselves why his words concerning eternal life provoked such a response.

    This violent reaction is in marked contrast to the way in which Christians today receive his words.
    As a result of 2,000 years of religious programming and false teaching, Christians today interpret Jesus’ words in a way that nullifies and robs them of their power.

    What we see reflected in the theologies of all Christian denominations is the common sense understanding which declares:
    “He could not have meant physical death because, after all, everybody dies”.

    Thus begins the process whereby the powerful statements of faith proclaimed by the Word of God -- and there is no statement more powerful than the promise that believers can overcome death -- are interpreted in light of the collective experience of Christians who were never exposed to the truth.
    Christians die because the necessary precondition for conquering death, which is an overcoming faith, is not encouraged and then the fact that Christians die just like unbelievers is used, in turn, to justify the doctrine of death.


    The religious system, which God calls Babylon in the book of Revelation, teaches that immortality applies after we experience a physical death and relates basically to an afterlife.

    This makes the concept of immortality contradictory, if not absurd.

    If immortality becomes effectual after we die, why did Jesus need to bring it to light via the gospel called the GOODNEWS?

    To the Hebrew people, there would have been nothing radical about the proclamation of an afterlife – certainly nothing that would produce scandal, shock and provoke persecution.
    If the Father, through Jesus, was merely ushering in a new, glorified after-life for believers as the system teaches in its interpretation of the scripture:
    “O Death, where is thy sting?”,
    why does the writer of the book of Hebrews describe the heroes of faith in the Old Testament and then go on to say that this cloud of witnesses surrounds believers in the flesh looking to us in the here and now to bring them into perfection
    (Heb. 11 and 12)?

    This tells me that the focus of the saints in the spirit realm is on the saints who are still in their physical bodies.
    Why?
    They are looking to us to accomplish in the flesh that which they could not attain to in their lifetimes – victory over death.

    If the ministry of Jesus was to cleanse us from sin so that, after we die, we can enjoy eternity with God, why was he the Passover Lamb?
    The blood of the Passover lamb in the Old Testament was a covering to protect the children of Israel from the angel of death and was a type of Jesus’ true ministry: to deliver us from death, in all its forms, by delivering us from sin.

    Death IS Enthroned

  • #2
    Now yeshua comes and visits with his disciples

    HIS EKKLESIA AND TELLS THEM this NEW COVENANT MESSAGE and they BELIEVE HIM AND HIS CLEANSING POWER AND THEIR deliverance from death and corruption aka - his workmanship..... NOT Another,
    this is why it is impossible for the churched to believe HIM, because HE NEEDS TO CALL OUT TO BECOME AS A FRIEND,...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
      the truth is
      there is a NEW LIFE FORMED AS A NEW CREATION, FROM A NEW COVENANT and you will never hear it sitting in a church jailhouse on a pew seat.



      The Doctrine of Death

      John 8:51
      Yeshua sayings revolve around the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN - He preached and nothing else.....

      The statements of Jesus concerning eternal life were so startling to the hearers of his day that they thought him insane and dangerous and sought to kill him.

      We must ask ourselves why his words concerning eternal life provoked such a response.

      This violent reaction is in marked contrast to the way in which Christians today receive his words.
      As a result of 2,000 years of religious programming and false teaching, Christians today interpret Jesus’ words in a way that nullifies and robs them of their power.

      What we see reflected in the theologies of all Christian denominations is the common sense understanding which declares:
      “He could not have meant physical death because, after all, everybody dies”.

      Thus begins the process whereby the powerful statements of faith proclaimed by the Word of God -- and there is no statement more powerful than the promise that believers can overcome death -- are interpreted in light of the collective experience of Christians who were never exposed to the truth.
      Christians die because the necessary precondition for conquering death, which is an overcoming faith, is not encouraged and then the fact that Christians die just like unbelievers is used, in turn, to justify the doctrine of death.


      The religious system, which God calls Babylon in the book of Revelation, teaches that immortality applies after we experience a physical death and relates basically to an afterlife.

      This makes the concept of immortality contradictory, if not absurd.

      If immortality becomes effectual after we die, why did Jesus need to bring it to light via the gospel called the GOODNEWS?

      To the Hebrew people, there would have been nothing radical about the proclamation of an afterlife – certainly nothing that would produce scandal, shock and provoke persecution.
      If the Father, through Jesus, was merely ushering in a new, glorified after-life for believers as the system teaches in its interpretation of the scripture:

      why does the writer of the book of Hebrews describe the heroes of faith in the Old Testament and then go on to say that this cloud of witnesses surrounds believers in the flesh looking to us in the here and now to bring them into perfection
      (Heb. 11 and 12)?

      This tells me that the focus of the saints in the spirit realm is on the saints who are still in their physical bodies.
      Why?
      They are looking to us to accomplish in the flesh that which they could not attain to in their lifetimes – victory over death.

      If the ministry of Jesus was to cleanse us from sin so that, after we die, we can enjoy eternity with God, why was he the Passover Lamb?
      The blood of the Passover lamb in the Old Testament was a covering to protect the children of Israel from the angel of death and was a type of Jesus’ true ministry: to deliver us from death, in all its forms, by delivering us from sin.

      Death IS Enthroned
      “O Death, where is thy sting?”,
      Lucy, why did you NOT show where you quoted this verse?

      O death, where is thy sting? 1 Corinthians 15:55.

      Lucy stole this verse from the apostle Paul, and at the same time she will call him a false apostle.

      Sounds like satan falsely accusing Paul, then stealing Paul's words for her own, hmm, sounds like a HYPOCRITE eh?

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      • #4
        so whaT ELIJAH

        Originally posted by eliyah View Post
        lucy, why did you not show where you quoted this verse?

        o death, where is thy sting? 1 corinthians 15:55.

        Lucy stole this verse from the apostle paul, and at the same time she will call him a false apostle.

        Sounds like satan falsely accusing paul, then stealing paul's words for her own, hmm, sounds like a hypocrite eh?
        to misrepresent... You have a truth then mix it in with rat poison, everyone knows it... But you..
        A LITTLE LEAVEN SPOILS THE LUMP

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        • #5
          1 Timothy 6:16

          The apostle Paul also wrote speaking of Messiah:

          Which in his times he shall shew, [who is] the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

          Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
          1 Timothy 6:15-16

          Who only hath immortality.

          Messiah is the ONLY person that has immortality.

          Then why is Lucy saying, that she has immortality, and Paul says, ONLY Messiah has immortality.

          Oops, she is caught in another lie.

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          • #6
            now you have to remember SATANS HELPERS will never allow the truth to be heard....

            deathEnthroned

            While Jesus came to deliver the creation from the bondage of death and corruption, the goal of the enemy working through the Babylonian religious system of man is to keep believers in the shadow of darkness where death reigns.
            [here is the poster Elijah's ministry, note well...]


            Not only are the common sense assumptions of the carnal mind (“everybody has to die”) never challenged by the teachings of the religious system, they are, in fact, reinforced.

            Christianity, in all its various forms and manifestations, accepts and even glorifies physical death.
            [here is the poster Elijah's ministry, note well.]

            It is seen as the gateway to heaven, to eternal rest and to the great celestial family reunion.
            Death is seen as a homecoming or graduation.
            It is in the after-life that we will finally see Jesus face to face and will instantly be made perfect.
            [here is the poster Elijah's ministry, note well]

            The powerful and literal “brainwashing” of the doctrine of death can be seen in the Catholic Church’s ritual of spreading ashes on the forehead of believers.
            This ritual -- which has no new testament foundation -- dramatically illustrates the point that while the religious system may portray itself as pro-life in its advocacy of the rights of a fetus or in its stand against euthanasia or capital punishment, the “life” that the system seeks to protect and preserve is fundamentally different from the meaning Christ attaches to the term.

            When Jesus spoke of eternal life, he was referring to the Life that is contained only in him.
            Through him, the believer enters into the life of the Melchisedec priesthood where we have no carnal genealogy, no beginning nor end of days.
            hurrah this IS so true THE TRUTH MANIFESTING IN THE EKKLESIA

            In his eyes, those who do not have this life are no better than dead men (“Let the dead bury the dead” he said to a follower who hesitated following Jesus because he felt the need to bury his recently deceased father.)
            [THIS IS THE POSTER Elijah's MINISTRY of the dead, telling the living how to think]

            It is only through the intimacy of our relationship with Christ that we enter into Life and as this life takes hold of every aspect of our being, death in all its aspects is overcome.
            HE TALKS TO HIS FRIENDS.

            It is the second birth, which removes us from the realm of the Adamic life to the life of Christ, that is precious in the sight of God because it is only through the manifestation of the born again Sons of God that the creation, in its entirety, will be delivered from the bondage of death.

            While the religious system champions the rights pertaining to the Adamic life, it fights tooth and nail to prevent the second birth from occurring in the lives of Christians.
            THIS IS THE POSTER Elijah's MINISTRY note well


            It is a reflection of the hypocrisy of religion that it opposes the manifestation in the physical of the crime, abortion, that it practices in the realm of the spirit.
            In fact, there is no evil, no perversion, no violence in the world, including death, that does not stem from the spiritual rebellion of the religious system against God.

            Christianity’s alliance with death, which borders on a form of spiritual necrophilia or death worship, is nothing new.
            According to the Word of God, the religious system that the Hebrew people were entangled in made what God calls in the book of Isaiah a “covenant with death”. He goes on to say:

            And your covenant with death shall be disannulled and your agreement with hell shall not stand… Isa. 28:18

            In Hosea He says:

            I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death I will be thy plagues; O grave I will be thy destruction…. Hosea 13:14
            These are just two examples in the Old Testament, which reflect the fact that, especially with regard to His people, God views physical death (“the grave”) as part of the curse and as something unclean and abhorrent.
            God’s promise is that through the atoning work of Jesus, all aspects of the curse, including death, will be overcome

            the poster ELIJAH will deny this, note well his satanic ministry.

            In the meantime, for the obedient and righteous in the Old Testament, the reward was a long and prosperous life.
            Nowhere in the new Testament is death portrayed as a gateway to blessing as Christian theology views it.

            The Unfolding Kingdom

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
              deathEnthroned

              While Jesus came to deliver the creation from the bondage of death and corruption, the goal of the enemy working through the Babylonian religious system of man is to keep believers in the shadow of darkness where death reigns.
              [here is the poster Elijah's ministry, note well...]


              Not only are the common sense assumptions of the carnal mind (“everybody has to die”) never challenged by the teachings of the religious system, they are, in fact, reinforced.

              Christianity, in all its various forms and manifestations, accepts and even glorifies physical death.
              [here is the poster Elijah's ministry, note well.]

              It is seen as the gateway to heaven, to eternal rest and to the great celestial family reunion.
              Death is seen as a homecoming or graduation.
              It is in the after-life that we will finally see Jesus face to face and will instantly be made perfect.
              [here is the poster Elijah's ministry, note well]

              The powerful and literal “brainwashing” of the doctrine of death can be seen in the Catholic Church’s ritual of spreading ashes on the forehead of believers.
              This ritual -- which has no new testament foundation -- dramatically illustrates the point that while the religious system may portray itself as pro-life in its advocacy of the rights of a fetus or in its stand against euthanasia or capital punishment, the “life” that the system seeks to protect and preserve is fundamentally different from the meaning Christ attaches to the term.

              When Jesus spoke of eternal life, he was referring to the Life that is contained only in him.
              Through him, the believer enters into the life of the Melchisedec priesthood where we have no carnal genealogy, no beginning nor end of days.
              hurrah this IS so true THE TRUTH MANIFESTING IN THE EKKLESIA

              In his eyes, those who do not have this life are no better than dead men (“Let the dead bury the dead” he said to a follower who hesitated following Jesus because he felt the need to bury his recently deceased father.)
              [THIS IS THE POSTER Elijah's MINISTRY of the dead, telling the living how to think]

              It is only through the intimacy of our relationship with Christ that we enter into Life and as this life takes hold of every aspect of our being, death in all its aspects is overcome.
              HE TALKS TO HIS FRIENDS.

              It is the second birth, which removes us from the realm of the Adamic life to the life of Christ, that is precious in the sight of God because it is only through the manifestation of the born again Sons of God that the creation, in its entirety, will be delivered from the bondage of death.

              While the religious system champions the rights pertaining to the Adamic life, it fights tooth and nail to prevent the second birth from occurring in the lives of Christians.
              THIS IS THE POSTER Elijah's MINISTRY note well


              It is a reflection of the hypocrisy of religion that it opposes the manifestation in the physical of the crime, abortion, that it practices in the realm of the spirit.
              In fact, there is no evil, no perversion, no violence in the world, including death, that does not stem from the spiritual rebellion of the religious system against God.

              Christianity’s alliance with death, which borders on a form of spiritual necrophilia or death worship, is nothing new.
              According to the Word of God, the religious system that the Hebrew people were entangled in made what God calls in the book of Isaiah a “covenant with death”. He goes on to say:



              These are just two examples in the Old Testament, which reflect the fact that, especially with regard to His people, God views physical death (“the grave”) as part of the curse and as something unclean and abhorrent.
              God’s promise is that through the atoning work of Jesus, all aspects of the curse, including death, will be overcome

              the poster ELIJAH will deny this, note well his satanic ministry.

              In the meantime, for the obedient and righteous in the Old Testament, the reward was a long and prosperous life.
              Nowhere in the new Testament is death portrayed as a gateway to blessing as Christian theology views it.

              The Unfolding Kingdom
              Lucy,

              I do NOT pick and choose out of the scriptures like a rebellious 12 year old as you do, and I accept ALL THE SCRIPTURES on the subject, as we are told to do.

              Lucy likes to steal the apostle Paul's written words, and next she will falsely accuse him of being false.

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              • #8
                no-one ever believes a foul mouth christian+ satan's helper nor an abuser of women

                The Unfolding Kingdom

                The positive image of death as the time or place where we come into our inheritance -- whether it be mansions, crowns of life, reunion with loved ones, the settling of scores, questions answered, rewards distributed to the worthy and punishment doled out to the disobedient or reprobate – perverts the very concept of inheritance:
                it is the testator’s death and not the heir’s death that makes inheritance possible.

                This distortion derives from a misunderstanding of the spiritual revelation Jesus was imparting when he expounded on the kingdom of God or the kingdom of heaven

                The fundamental problem is that the underpinning of virtually all Christian theology is the carnal understanding of heaven as a physical place inaccessible to us until a specific time (physical death).

                n.o.t.i.c.e. this true fact
                The fact is that not once in all four gospel accounts does Jesus equate the kingdom of God or the kingdom of heaven with an afterlife.
                The fact is that not once in all four gospel accounts does Jesus equate the kingdom of God or the kingdom of heaven with an afterlife.
                The fact is that not once in all four gospel accounts does Jesus equate the kingdom of God or the kingdom of heaven with an afterlife.
                The fact is that not once in all four gospel accounts does Jesus equate the kingdom of God or the kingdom of heaven with an afterlife.
                The fact is that not once in all four gospel accounts does Jesus equate the kingdom of God or the kingdom of heaven with an afterlife.

                did you see this?
                are you aware of this truth?
                do you challenge this divine truth?


                What Jesus does do is describe the availability of a place in God in which He establishes total dominion over every aspect of the believer’s life.
                This is a realm in the spirit that has nothing to do with time or space (“The time is coming and now is…”) but it has everything to do with our readiness and willingness to sell all our “wealth” (which means, above all, renouncing our carnal understanding), to become as children, to die to everything in our life that is unlike Him, and to bear His reproach.
                This means taking Jesus at his word when he says:
                “He that believes in me shall never taste of death”
                and bearing the consequences of that faith – which are considerable.

                do you deny this word?
                the poster,Elijah shall, say it means something else... watch,

                There is a two-fold aspect to the revelation of the kingdom:
                In one respect, the fullness of God, including immortality, has always been available, by faith, to those who pleased God such as Enoch and Elijah;
                but in another respect there is a process across time of the unfolding of the revelation of Christ (or the “coming” of Christ), the culmination of which we see described in the book of Revelation.

                In the Spirit John sees the future of the Church as the mysteries of the Word unfold and as the doctrine of death is overcome.
                It is a “future” that is always available on an individual basis but will not come into total manifestation until the entirety of the Church is brought into the fullness of the revelation of Christ.

                This ongoing process of revelation and the expanding availability of the fullness of God.

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                • #9
                  Now, Lucy wrote:

                  The blood of the Passover lamb in the Old Testament was a covering to protect the children of Israel from the angel of death and was a type of Jesus’ true ministry: to deliver us from death, in all its forms, by delivering us from sin.
                  by delivering us from sin.

                  Has Lucy truly been delivered from sin?

                  Well John says, sin is lawlessness 1 John 3:4.

                  If Lucy has truly REPENTED FROM SIN Acts 3:19, then WHY does she constantly speak contempt for and against the law?

                  Because Lucy has NOT repented from her sin or lawlessness, as Messiah and the Apostles requires.

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                  • #10
                    here comes satans helper... let us watch him DEBUNK the truth

                    Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
                    Now, Lucy wrote:



                    by delivering us from sin.

                    Has Lucy truly been delivered from sin?

                    Well John says, sin is lawlessness 1 John 3:4.

                    If Lucy has truly REPENTED FROM SIN Acts 3:19, then WHY does she constantly speak contempt for and against the law?

                    Because Lucy has NOT repented from her sin or lawlessness, as the Apostles requires.

                    watch
                    the unemployed
                    multi wives person
                    poverty stricken person
                    mentally ill person....
                    with a foul mouth person...
                    talk about lawlessness and keeping a law he cannot himself keep as
                    a giggling sickening man always laughing at the truth


                    HOW DID THE LAW KEEPING Which IS IMPOSSIBLE effect you????

                    ohhhhh
                    did ALL 613 LAWS HELP YOU ELIJAH -AS YOU PRETEND TO KEEP THEM....
                    FUNNY NO ONE ELSE COULD BUT YOU,.....
                    SO did it
                    HELP YOU get employment?
                    help you with your marriages ?
                    help you with your accidents and crippled legs
                    helped you be removed from poverty and want
                    DID IT????
                    noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ~~~~~~`
                    why not.
                    because you failed to keep all 613 laws BUT ACCORDING TO YOU... WE MUST OR WE ARE LAWLESS.................... WHAT A MINDLESS MESS U ARE.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                      watch
                      the unemployed
                      multi wives
                      poverty stricken
                      mentally ill person....
                      with a foul mouth...
                      talk about lawlessness and keeping a law he cannot himself keep as
                      a giggling sickening man always laughing at the truth
                      Lucy,

                      Your lying again, and that is all "the old jezzie cultural lady" in her own words can do.

                      PS: Why do you not tell everyone, in your own words, how many times you have played the jezzie against your husband, and made him a whoremonger?

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                      • #12
                        here he goes... HE CANNOT DEFEND THE LIES HE PEDDLES but reverts to satans whispers

                        Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
                        Lucy,

                        Your lying again, and that is all "the old jezzie cultural lady" in her own words can do.

                        PS: Why do you not tell everyone, in your own words, how many times you have played the jezzie against your husband, and made him a whoremonger?

                        watch the religious dunce...
                        look at the abuse of women [to me under a Pauline church system this is accepted] and his filthy mouth

                        u see his mouth, sewerage foams as he vomits out his abuses.,

                        you know why he does this every time
                        BECAUSE HE IS CORNERED AND Christ in me, overpowers his carnal religious mind so he reverts to name calling..
                        ..pity the creature,~~~~~ and the sadness of the lost.
                        all talk no walk
                        he is death~~~~~

                        do you think Elijah is under a curse?
                        yes he is because he cannot faithfully keep all 613 laws and fails to understand the cruelty and error of the OT god. [written in by evil men with an agenda up their sleeve, that works]
                        he cannot discern the dung from the diamonds and HOW MANY TIMES YESHUA called THE LAW = YOUR LAW. [ not his] and how many times HE BROKE it himself.

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                        • #13
                          watch
                          the unemployed
                          multi wives
                          poverty stricken
                          mentally ill person....
                          with a foul mouth...
                          talk about lawlessness and keeping a law he cannot himself keep as
                          a giggling sickening man always laughing at the truth
                          Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                          watch the religious dunce...
                          look at the abuse of women [to me under a Pauline church system this is accepted] and his filthy mouth

                          u see his mouth, sewerage foams as he vomits out his abuses.,

                          you know why he does this every time
                          BECAUSE HE IS CORNERED AND Christ in me, overpowers his carnal religious mind so he reverts to name calling..
                          ..pity the creature,~~~~~ and the sadness of the lost.
                          all talk no walk
                          he is death~~~~~
                          Yea, the old Jezebel is full of her vomit, and Lucy, you fit Jezebel all way down to the letter.

                          Hey Jezebel , how is Ahab the whoremonger?

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                          • #14
                            look at what elijah has written as ABUSE TO ME.... i wish to point out WHY?

                            THE SATAN'S HELPER Elijah ..... VOMITS HIS ABUSE TO ME
                            WHY?

                            because of this - watch and learn.


                            The purpose of the doctrine of death – then as now – is to actively prevent the last enemy from being conquered by embracing that enemy and viewing it as a “friend”.

                            ''The purpose of the doctrine of death – then as now – is to actively prevent the last enemy from being conquered by embracing that enemy and viewing it as a “friend”.
                            ''The purpose of the doctrine of death – then as now – is to actively prevent the last enemy from being conquered by embracing that enemy and viewing it as a “friend”.
                            ''The purpose of the doctrine of death – then as now – is to actively prevent the last enemy from being conquered by embracing that enemy and viewing it as a “friend”.
                            ''The purpose of the doctrine of death – then as now – is to actively prevent the last enemy from being conquered by embracing that enemy and viewing it as a “friend”.
                            ''The purpose of the doctrine of death – then as now – is to actively prevent the last enemy from being conquered by embracing that enemy and viewing it as a “friend”.

                            because I am posting the gospel's true message to save people, Elijah posts are to EMBRACE THE ENEMY DEATH AND VIEWS IT AS HIS FRIEND.... he has to defend death under satan's influences


                            The more sophisticated theologies will concede that much of the fullness of God is available to believers in this life, but the religious system will never let Christians believe that physical death can be overcome because that would mean that sin can be conquered in our lives.
                            The more sophisticated theologies will concede that much of the fullness of God is available to believers in this life, but the religious system will never let Christians believe that physical death can be overcome because that would mean that sin can be conquered in our lives.
                            The more sophisticated theologies will concede that much of the fullness of God is available to believers in this life, but the religious system will never let Christians believe that physical death can be overcome because that would mean that sin can be conquered in our lives.
                            The more sophisticated theologies will concede that much of the fullness of God is available to believers in this life, but the religious system will never let Christians believe that physical death can be overcome because that would mean that sin can be conquered in our lives.
                            The more sophisticated theologies will concede that much of the fullness of God is available to believers in this life, but the religious system will never let Christians believe that physical death can be overcome because that would mean that sin can be conquered in our lives.

                            Elijah's ministry
                            As dispensers of forgiveness and grace on the one hand and guilt and condemnation on the other, the clergy of the system will do everything in its power to prevent Christians from entering into the fullness of the atonement.
                            As dispensers of forgiveness and grace on the one hand and guilt and condemnation on the other, the clergy of the system will do everything in its power to prevent Christians from entering into the fullness of the atonement.
                            As dispensers of forgiveness and grace on the one hand and guilt and condemnation on the other, the clergy of the system will do everything in its power to prevent Christians from entering into the fullness of the atonement.
                            As dispensers of forgiveness and grace on the one hand and guilt and condemnation on the other, the clergy of the system will do everything in its power to prevent Christians from entering into the fullness of the atonement.



                            The doctrine of death goes hand in hand with the teaching, common to every Christian denomination, that Christians remain sinners after experiencing salvation, the new birth and cleansing in the blood of Jesus.
                            In subtle ways, the Law and with it, judgment, condemnation and death, were re-introduced into Christian theology and, as a result, our understanding of the atonement was distorted.

                            As revelation and faith were replaced by morality and law, the atoning work of Jesus was made ineffectual and, indeed, unnecessary and His blood, through the unbelief engendered by the religious teachings of man, was rendered no more potent than the communal grape juice. How does a system that is founded on a teaching of imperfection answer this question: If the blood of Jesus and the Spirit of God that dwelt in him, as it does in us, do not have the power to bring us into perfection, why would he require it of us?

                            Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect.
                            Matt. 5:48

                            The system’s response to this scripture is to add qualifiers which, in effect, nullify the power of the Word and the atonement.
                            It is no coincidence that all the teachings of John that point to perfection or total deliverance from sin are either ignored or explained away.

                            here is the poster elijahs ministry
                            The goal of the religious system is to prevent the formation of that Bride that is without spot or wrinkle which is the culmination of God’s plan for the creation.
                            The goal of the religious system is to prevent the formation of that Bride that is without spot or wrinkle which is the culmination of God’s plan for the creation.
                            The goal of the religious system is to prevent the formation of that Bride that is without spot or wrinkle which is the culmination of God’s plan for the creation.
                            The goal of the religious system is to prevent the formation of that Bride that is without spot or wrinkle which is the culmination of God’s plan for the creation.


                            not while I am around he wont
                            do you see why I despise this man so much.... a death peddler and abuser of women and a cesspool of sin himself.

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                            • #15
                              Lucy,

                              watch
                              the unemployed
                              multi wives
                              poverty stricken
                              mentally ill person....
                              with a foul mouth...
                              talk about lawlessness and keeping a law he cannot himself keep as
                              a giggling sickening man always laughing at the truth
                              You can't have a civil discussion, as you also falsely accused Ken and Spying in the other thread too.

                              You love to falsely accuse and verbally abuse others, and then you will turn around and play the victim.

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