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    Hi Everyone,
    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
    Shabbat Shalom!

    Here for informational purposes is a copy of the e-mail sent to me telling me why my last post was removed from Christian Forums. Color coding added is my own:

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    I am contacting you today with a friendly reminder to please review our Sitewide Rules as one of your posts was recently reported. This reminder is not intended to be disciplinary, but to provide you with all of the necessary information you need for participating here at CF.

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    How come good Friday is only two days from Easter Sunday?
    Quote of your original post:

    Hi Der Alter,

    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    I regret that I must respectably decline to engage in any further conversation with you on this forum. You and I go back a long way, do we not? On my own forum, I have never engaged in the type of censorship which just occurred on this thread. You yourself fully know that at one time I approached you and asked that you should refrain from auguring so forcefully with another friend of mine. This individual was not in your league. You were head and shoulders above him in your abilities to debate. You complied with my request, and I respected your action.

    I realize that this thread was indeed heated at times, but as far as I am concerned, the authorities in charge here should not have deleted your posts, nor the posts of Gerhard, nor the posts of ImAHebrew, and they should not have edited my last post to you removing my last paragraph to you. This was censorship at its worst.

    I do not hold you responsible for the deletions, but as I have just stated above, I can no longer post to this forum, and nor will ImAHebrew post to this forum because of their desecration of the Word!

    Sincerely, Latuwr

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    Thanking anyone in advance that may be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

  • #2
    Originally posted by Spying View Post
    Hi Everyone,
    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
    Shabbat Shalom!

    Here for informational purposes is a copy of the e-mail sent to me telling me why my last post was removed from Christian Forums. Color coding added is my own:

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    Hi Latuwr,

    I am contacting you today with a friendly reminder to please review our Sitewide Rules as one of your posts was recently reported. This reminder is not intended to be disciplinary, but to provide you with all of the necessary information you need for participating here at CF.

    Our staff reviewed the reported post and reached consensus that your post made in the thread (How come good Friday is only two days from Easter Sunday?) was in violation of the following CF rule:

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    How come good Friday is only two days from Easter Sunday?
    Quote of your original post:

    Hi Der Alter,

    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    I regret that I must respectably decline to engage in any further conversation with you on this forum. You and I go back a long way, do we not? On my own forum, I have never engaged in the type of censorship which just occurred on this thread. You yourself fully know that at one time I approached you and asked that you should refrain from auguring so forcefully with another friend of mine. This individual was not in your league. You were head and shoulders above him in your abilities to debate. You complied with my request, and I respected your action.

    I realize that this thread was indeed heated at times, but as far as I am concerned, the authorities in charge here should not have deleted your posts, nor the posts of Gerhard, nor the posts of ImAHebrew, and they should not have edited my last post to you removing my last paragraph to you. This was censorship at its worst.

    I do not hold you responsible for the deletions, but as I have just stated above, I can no longer post to this forum, and nor will ImAHebrew post to this forum because of their desecration of the Word!

    Sincerely, Latuwr

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    Thanking anyone in advance that may be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    Spying, I do agree with you.

    Heaven forbid, anyone should openly practice their free speech against one of these forum moderators, and administrators, because then no one can even question their actions.

    It's getting more and more difficult to even post on such forums, because IF you do not agree with their own beliefs and actions, it makes no sense to even post, if they are going to censor your speech.
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    • #3
      Adding To The Eye Of The Storm!

      Hi EliYah,
      Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
      Here is my saved copy of my post to Der Alter in which the last paragraph was deleted by the moderator, Paidiske. The deleted paragraph is color coded maroon:

      "Hi Der Alter,

      Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

      Shabbat Shalom!

      Your emphasis upon scholarship is exactly the same objection that the scholars at the time of Messiah charged Yahushua HIMSELF and HIS Apostles concerning their teaching. Throughout HIS earthly ministry, the religious authorities were always challenging Messiah Yahushua concerning HIS practice and HIS teaching. This same challenge continued with the teaching of HIS Apostles after the resurrection of Messiah Yahushua. I mean who were Messiah and HIS Apostles to tell the religious scholars what is what?

      I will tell you again that "ἄγει" in Luke 24:21 is not the verb "ἐστιν", and I will tell you again that "τρίτην ταύτην ἡμέραν" is not the subject of "ἄγει", rather they are the object of "ἄγει" because these words are in the accusative case. "ἀφ᾽ οὗ ταῦτα ἐγένετο" literally is "from which it happened these things". You are correct in saying that "when" is not in the phrase so what do you really have? Nothing! Try as you might, you and your scholars have not disproved the true teaching of this verse. It is only because of your preconceived theology that causes you to promote a false translation of this verse.


      Please allow me to tell you the truth, Der Alter. You will continue to grow older and eventually you will get sick and physically die unless you are blessed to come to a knowledge of the truth. My Messiah desires that it becomes known that HE came to give LIFE to HIS Believers. This LIFE is NOW and not later after you physically die.

      Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,

      Sincerely, Latuwr
      "

      As you can see, the deleted paragraph was teaching about LIFE NOW. This was my first mention of LIFE NOW at Christian Forums. ImAHebrew was the first to teach about LIFE NOW at Christian Forums. His post was deleted.

      Lo Ammi Forum was originally formed because the Eliyah Forum changed the rules so that anyone who posted to the Eliyah Forum automatically by their posting showed thereby that they agreed with the use of the Sacred Names. I, in good conscience, could no longer post there because I did not agree with such a rule. Eliyah did not ban me or anything. I left just like I just left the Christian Forum with the only difference being that I could not make a post stating that I could no longer post at the Eliyah Forum because of Eliyah's new rule.

      I also left because I got sick and tired of having discussions with others interrupted by those who were overly critical of controversial issues. I, at the Eliyah Forum, was in a discussion with Bratu who was a believer in the Egyptian god, Set. Set according to Bratu was the god of chaos, and you can just imagine how Bratu was treated on the Eliyah Forum based upon Exodus 23:13. Bratu was evil incarnate according to them. You can read about this history in the thread "The Eye Of The Storm" in the archives of Lo Ammi.

      Like my Brother, ImAHebrew, I also am a Hebrew. I have crossed or passed over to another side, and that side is the side of YAHWEH ELOHIM. I now am in opposition to all false belief or gods, and I have absolutely no problem with discussing my opposition with anyone and their gods.
      I am here to serve. I am not here to be served.

      Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
      Sincerely, Latuwr
      The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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      • #4
        dear spying. you can lead a horse to water.....................

        tell of LIFE NOW..
        BUT ONLY YESHUA CAN TEACH IT and preach it to a called out saint.
        they wont believe you IT IS IMPOSSIBLE....THE MIND cannot even fathom such a thing.
        you cannot reason with these people.
        they are insanely religious and bound to captivity. to death - THEY ARE THE DEAD Yeshua spoke off,
        HOW CAN A DEAD PERSON THINK, UNLESS THE MASTER HAS RAISED THEM UP into the CHRIST power of the resurrection here and now.

        do you go out to the grave yard and talk to the tombs there?
        do you preach to the tombs?

        NO.
        this is what u are TRYING TO DO you are preaching to tombs that have never been raised up out from the dead.
        your work ONLY is to tell them and then walk away THE REST IS UP TO THE MASTER..
        THE disguise comes before THE deception
        What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
        THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
        - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
        - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
        This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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        • #5
          Spying,

          Please allow me to tell you the truth, Der Alter. You will continue to grow older and eventually you will get sick and physically die unless you are blessed to come to a knowledge of the truth. My Messiah desires that it becomes known that HE came to give LIFE to HIS Believers. This LIFE is NOW and not later after you physically die.
          Spying,

          I do not go along with forums who would remove or censor anyone's posts for their faith, and with this being said, I would like to request the following below of you.

          Suppose you present all the scriptures together as to WHY you believe that true followers of Messiah cannot get sick and eventually die a physical first death, and be honest with all the scriptures speaking of BOTH LIFE and DEATH on the subject.
          A bit of revelation for ye.

          Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

          By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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          • #6
            A Powerful Witness!

            Hi Lucy and EliYah,
            Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
            Shabbat Shalom!

            EliYah asked this of me:

            "Suppose you present all the scriptures together as to WHY you believe that true followers of Messiah cannot get sick and eventually die a physical first death, and be honest with all the scriptures speaking of BOTH LIFE and DEATH on the subject."

            The reason why I address both of you in this post is because I do desire to present a scripture to the both of you that is one of my favorites concerning living and not physically dying. I have never said that true followers of Messiah Yahushua cannot get sick and physically die. The Apostle Paul clearly taught that believers who do not examine themselves properly can get sick and die. Sin causes physical death. Ananias and Sapphira were both believers who physically died because they were caught up in sin. Dorcas was a believer who became sick and died, and she was raised from physical death by the Apostle Peter, perhaps, due to this scripture in the Song of Songs:

            Songs of Songs 8:14
            14 Make haste, my beloved, and be thou like to a gazelle or to a young hart upon the mountains of spices.

            Eutychus, the Fortunate One, fell asleep and fell from an upper chamber to his physical death, and the Apostle Paul brought him back to life. There is no doubt in my mind that "mountains" in Song of Songs 8:14 is a reference to the Apostles of My Messiah Yahushua, and that the spices are representative of the marvelous gifts which they were empowered by Messiah to bestow upon HIS Believers or upon the Beloved of Messiah Yahushua who are like unto a gazelle or a young hart.

            Both physical resurrections were a powerful witness to Believers in LIFE NOW that their belief was not in vain. How do I know that? Well, take a look at all the symbols and events surrounding the dead and the resurrection of both Dorcas and Eutychus. Besides, how many non-believers did the Apostles raise from the dead?
            The physical resurrection of both Dorcas and Eutychus clearly teaches that we have a Savior who stands at the door watching over and protecting us according to HIS good favor and will towards us. As the Apostle Paul does teach, nothing can separate us from HIS love.

            Now, EliYah, I know that you think highly of the scripture which states that it is appointed unto men once to die. Since both Dorcas and Eutychus both died, is there any necessity that they each must die again? In other words, is there any possibility that both are still physically alive?

            Thanking you both in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
            Sincerely, Latuwr

            P.S. The Scripture that I desire that you both take an extensive look at is the teaching of John 6, but I was moved to have you consider the events surrounding Dorcas and Eutchus first.
            The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Spying View Post
              Hi Lucy and EliYah,
              Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
              Shabbat Shalom!

              EliYah asked this of me:

              "Suppose you present all the scriptures together as to WHY you believe that true followers of Messiah cannot get sick and eventually die a physical first death, and be honest with all the scriptures speaking of BOTH LIFE and DEATH on the subject."

              The reason why I address both of you in this post is because I do desire to present a scripture to the both of you that is one of my favorites concerning living and not physically dying. I have never said that true followers of Messiah Yahushua cannot get sick and physically die. The Apostle Paul clearly taught that believers who do not examine themselves properly can get sick and die. Sin causes physical death. Ananias and Sapphira were both believers who physically died because they were caught up in sin. Dorcas was a believer who became sick and died, and she was raised from physical death by the Apostle Peter, perhaps, due to this scripture in the Song of Songs:

              Songs of Songs 8:14
              14 Make haste, my beloved, and be thou like to a gazelle or to a young hart upon the mountains of spices.

              Eutychus, the Fortunate One, fell asleep and fell from an upper chamber to his physical death, and the Apostle Paul brought him back to life. There is no doubt in my mind that "mountains" in Song of Songs 8:14 is a reference to the Apostles of My Messiah Yahushua, and that the spices are representative of the marvelous gifts which they were empowered by Messiah to bestow upon HIS Believers or upon the Beloved of Messiah Yahushua who are like unto a gazelle or a young hart.

              Both physical resurrections were a powerful witness to Believers in LIFE NOW that their belief was not in vain. How do I know that? Well, take a look at all the symbols and events surrounding the dead and the resurrection of both Dorcas and Eutychus. Besides, how many non-believers did the Apostles raise from the dead?
              The physical resurrection of both Dorcas and Eutychus clearly teaches that we have a Savior who stands at the door watching over and protecting us according to HIS good favor and will towards us. As the Apostle Paul does teach, nothing can separate us from HIS love.

              Now, EliYah, I know that you think highly of the scripture which states that it is appointed unto men once to die. Since both Dorcas and Eutychus both died, is there any necessity that they each must die again? In other words, is there any possibility that both are still physically alive?

              Thanking you both in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
              Sincerely, Latuwr

              P.S. The Scripture that I desire that you both take an extensive look at is the teaching of John 6, but I was moved to have you consider the events surrounding Dorcas and Eutchus first.
              Spying, you asked and said:

              Now, EliYah, I know that you think highly of the scripture which states that it is appointed unto men once to die.

              Since both Dorcas and Eutychus both died, is there any necessity that they each must die again? In other words, is there any possibility that both are still physically alive?
              Spying, I think highly of ALL THE SCRIPTURES, and not only Hebrews 9:27.

              Since both Dorcas and Eutychus both died, is there any necessity that they each must die again? In other words, is there any possibility that both are still physically alive?
              Well, anything is possible with YAH The Father, however, we have no scriptures telling us they are physically alive in the human flesh.

              Now Spying, let me quote you a scripture, and ask you a question about this scripture, and let's see if you can answer this question with scriptures.

              Messiah said of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob:

              I am the Elohim of Abraham, and the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob? Elohim is not the Elohim of the dead, but of the living. Matthew 22:32.

              Elohim is not the Elohim of the dead, but of the living.

              How is Abraham still alive?
              A bit of revelation for ye.

              Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

              By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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              • #8
                thank you Spying, for your expounding.....

                i fear so few shall believe you or I
                it is our work to tell but only Jesus can convince and remove the death mindset

                DEATH has too much power over the dead.
                Yeshua said let the dead bury the dead and they still do. 2000 Christians die every 12 mins. [ so someone worked out]
                because Christians remain dead.
                dead in sin


                NOT DEAD TO SIN

                years ago HE CAME and personally said to me...
                Christ said "I am the resurrection and the life:
                he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
                And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.
                Believest thou this?." (Jn.11:25-26).
                it was a monumental hour He spent with me as His friend... as He did with Martha. John 11 v 24 25 26
                HIS VERY PRESENCE removes the death mind in us all, and the process of eternal life begins at that moment and proceeds into the fullness of Christ here and a person is slotted into the order of MELCHEDIZECK aka = the everlasting life order.

                UNLESS this divine experience happens and alters our whole perspective and life.... NONE shall believe, just as Elijah fails too.
                He is just the religious dead like all Christians and shall be more than happy to die. NEVER TO RECEIVE THE GOODNEWS AND FATHERS BEST

                I cannot even begin to tell you how terrible this Christian religion is.
                infact it is INSULTING to think how altered and perverted the whole gospel became
                THE disguise comes before THE deception
                What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                  i fear so few shall believe you or I
                  it is our work to tell but only Jesus can convince and remove the death mindset

                  DEATH has too much power over the dead.
                  Yeshua said let the dead bury the dead and they still do. 2000 Christians die every 12 mins. [ so someone worked out]
                  because Christians remain dead.
                  dead in sin


                  NOT DEAD TO SIN

                  years ago HE CAME and personally said to me...

                  it was a monumental hour He spent with me as His friend... as He did with Martha. John 11 v 24 25 26
                  HIS VERY PRESENCE removes the death mind in us all, and the process of eternal life begins at that moment and proceeds into the fullness of Christ here and a person is slotted into the order of MELCHEDIZECK aka = the everlasting life order.

                  UNLESS this divine experience happens and alters our whole perspective and life.... NONE shall believe, just as Elijah fails too.
                  He is just the religious dead like all Christians and shall be more than happy to die.
                  Lucy,

                  The scriptures come as ONE WHOLE, and I do NOT pick out one scripture, as you pretend to do with John 11:24-26, and throw all the others scriptures away.
                  A bit of revelation for ye.

                  Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                  By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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                  • #10
                    here is the HUGE REVELATION....of life

                    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                    i fear so few shall believe you or I
                    it is our work to tell but only Jesus can convince and remove the death mindset

                    DEATH has too much power over the dead.
                    Yeshua said let the dead bury the dead and they still do. 2000 Christians die every 12 mins. [ so someone worked out]
                    because Christians remain dead.
                    dead in sin


                    NOT DEAD TO SIN

                    years ago HE CAME and personally said to me...

                    it was a monumental hour He spent with me as His friend... as He did with Martha. John 11 v 24 25 26
                    HIS VERY PRESENCE removes the death mind in us all, and the process of eternal life begins at that moment and proceeds into the fullness of Christ here and a person is slotted into the order of MELCHEDIZECK aka = the everlasting life order.

                    UNLESS this divine experience happens and alters our whole perspective and life.... NONE shall believe, just as Elijah fails too.
                    He is just the religious dead like all Christians and shall be more than happy to die. NEVER TO RECEIVE THE GOODNEWS AND FATHERS BEST

                    I cannot even begin to tell you how terrible this Christian religion is.
                    infact it is INSULTING to think how altered and perverted the whole gospel became


                    spying
                    look at this please feel the power of life within her words
                    Martha said "if you have been here my brother would not have died."
                    AS I WALK IN HIS PRESENCE, I CANNOT DIE. HE LIVETH IN ME..... and each day, sin in me, death in me, carnal mindset in me IS REMOVED AS I BECOME HIS WORKMANSHIP.

                    people like Elijah come in to tear His presence down, but they fail each time for THE CHRIST POWER IS SO STRONG nothing can remove it, not even satan's helper
                    the dead have No rapport with THE LIVING
                    THE disguise comes before THE deception
                    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                    THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                    - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                    - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                    This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                      spying
                      look at this please feel the power of life within her words


                      AS I WALK IN HIS PRESENCE, I CANNOT DIE. HE LIVETH IN ME..... and each day, sin in me, death in me, carnal mindset in me IS REMOVED AS I BECOME HIS WORKMANSHIP.

                      people like Elijah come in to tear His presence down, but they fail each time for THE CHRIST POWER IS SO STRONG nothing can remove it, not even satan's helper
                      the dead have No rapport with THE LIVING
                      Lucy,

                      I'm not trying to tear down anything, and we will soon see, if you truly want a scriptural discussion, or whether you want to turn this thread into another bashing thread.
                      A bit of revelation for ye.

                      Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                      By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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                      • #12
                        Jhn 11.

                        Ok Lucy,

                        John wrote:

                        Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus, of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha. (It was that Mary which anointed the Lord with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was sick.)

                        Therefore his sisters sent unto him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom thou lovest is sick.

                        When Jesus heard that, he said,


                        This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby. John 11:1-4.

                        Lucy, what did Messiah mean by saying, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby. ???
                        A bit of revelation for ye.

                        Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                        By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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                        • #13
                          I am here to serve. I am not here to be served.

                          Spying, you said:
                          I am here to serve. I am not here to be served.
                          Really, what does the word of Yah say of this?

                          But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.

                          But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.

                          For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
                          Mark 10:42-45.

                          For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister

                          For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. Galatians 5:13.

                          but by love serve one another.

                          As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God (Elohim) (Yah). 1 Peter 4:10.

                          even so minister the same one to another.
                          A bit of revelation for ye.

                          Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                          By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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                          • #14
                            The Age To Come Eternal Life.

                            Spying,

                            I think it was Ken that asked and said, that I should look at 1 Timothy 4:8.

                            I'm going to quote this verse FIRST in the B.L.B. Strong's Concordance.

                            For G1063 bodily G4984 exercise G1129 profiteth G2076 little: G4314 G3641 but G1161 godliness G2150 is G2076 profitable G5624 unto G4314 all things, G3956 having G2192 promise G1860 of the life G2222 that now is, G3568 and G2532 of that which is to come. G3195

                            For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that (Life) which is to come (G3195.

                            having promise of the life that now is, and of that (Life) which is to come (G3195.

                            http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...2A+G3195&t=KJV

                            Now let's compare this statement ABOVE of Paul's to these texts of scriptures BELOW.

                            Mat. 12:32: And G2532 whosoever G3739 G302 speaketh G2036 a word G3056 against G2596 the Son G5207 of man, G444 it shall be forgiven G863 him: G846 but G3739 whosoever G1161 G302 speaketh G2036 against G2596 the Holy G40 Ghost, G4151 it shall G863 G0 not G3756 be forgiven G863 him, G846 neither G3777 in G1722 this G5129 world, G165 neither G3777 in G1722 the world to come. G3195

                            And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come (G3195). Mat. 12:32

                            neither in this world, neither in the world to come (G3195).

                            Far above G5231 all G3956 principality, G746 and G2532 power, G1849 and G2532 might, G1411 and G2532 dominion, G2963 and G2532 every G3956 name G3686 that is named, G3687 not G3756 only G3440 in G1722 this G5129 world, G165 but G235 also G2532 in G1722 that (world) which is to come: G3195 Ephesians 1:21.

                            Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that (world) which is to come(G3195):

                            not only in this world, but also in that (world) which is to come(G3195):

                            For G1063 unto the angels G32 hath he G5293 G0 not G3756 put in subjection G5293 the world G3625 to come, G3195 whereof G4012 G3739 we speak. G2980 Hebrews 2:5.

                            For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come (G3195), whereof we speak.

                            the world to come (G3195)

                            And G2532 have tasted G1089 the good G2570 word G4487 of God, G2316 and G5037 the powers G1411 of the world G165 to come, G3195 Hebrews 6:5.

                            And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come(G3195),

                            http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...2A+G3195&t=KJV

                            But G3362 he shall receive G2983 an hundredfold G1542 now G3568 in G1722 this G5129 time, G2540 houses, G3614 and G2532 brethren, G80 and G2532 sisters, G79 and G2532 mothers, G3384 and G2532 children, G5043 and G2532 lands, G68 with G3326 persecutions; G1375 and G2532 in G1722 the world G165 to come G2064 eternal G166 life. G2222

                            But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. Mark 10:30.

                            and in the world to come eternal life.

                            Who G3739 shall G618 G0 not G3364 receive G618 manifold more G4179 in G1722 this G5129 present time, G2540 and G2532 in G1722 the world G165 to come G2064 life G2222 everlasting. G166 Luke 18:30.

                            Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.

                            and in the world to come life everlasting.

                            http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...+to+come&t=KJV

                            Those who say, there is not a LIFE or AGE to come, is either blind, or lying to themselves, or BOTH.
                            A bit of revelation for ye.

                            Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                            By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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                            • #15
                              Yes Eliyahu, the Spirit that gives us Life Now, guarantees us of the Life to Come.

                              Originally posted by Eliyah View Post
                              Spying,

                              I think it was Ken that asked and said, that I should look at 1 Timothy 4:8.

                              I'm going to quote this verse FIRST in the B.L.B. Strong's Concordance.

                              For G1063 bodily G4984 exercise G1129 profiteth G2076 little: G4314 G3641 but G1161 godliness G2150 is G2076 profitable G5624 unto G4314 all things, G3956 having G2192 promise G1860 of the life G2222 that now is, G3568 and G2532 of that which is to come. G3195

                              For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that (Life) which is to come (G3195.

                              having promise of the life that now is, and of that (Life) which is to come (G3195.

                              http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...2A+G3195&t=KJV

                              Now let's compare this statement ABOVE of Paul's to these texts of scriptures BELOW.

                              Mat. 12:32: And G2532 whosoever G3739 G302 speaketh G2036 a word G3056 against G2596 the Son G5207 of man, G444 it shall be forgiven G863 him: G846 but G3739 whosoever G1161 G302 speaketh G2036 against G2596 the Holy G40 Ghost, G4151 it shall G863 G0 not G3756 be forgiven G863 him, G846 neither G3777 in G1722 this G5129 world, G165 neither G3777 in G1722 the world to come. G3195

                              And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come (G3195). Mat. 12:32

                              neither in this world, neither in the world to come (G3195).

                              Far above G5231 all G3956 principality, G746 and G2532 power, G1849 and G2532 might, G1411 and G2532 dominion, G2963 and G2532 every G3956 name G3686 that is named, G3687 not G3756 only G3440 in G1722 this G5129 world, G165 but G235 also G2532 in G1722 that (world) which is to come: G3195 Ephesians 1:21.

                              Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that (world) which is to come(G3195):

                              not only in this world, but also in that (world) which is to come(G3195):

                              For G1063 unto the angels G32 hath he G5293 G0 not G3756 put in subjection G5293 the world G3625 to come, G3195 whereof G4012 G3739 we speak. G2980 Hebrews 2:5.

                              For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come (G3195), whereof we speak.

                              the world to come (G3195)

                              And G2532 have tasted G1089 the good G2570 word G4487 of God, G2316 and G5037 the powers G1411 of the world G165 to come, G3195 Hebrews 6:5.

                              And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come(G3195),

                              http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...2A+G3195&t=KJV

                              But G3362 he shall receive G2983 an hundredfold G1542 now G3568 in G1722 this G5129 time, G2540 houses, G3614 and G2532 brethren, G80 and G2532 sisters, G79 and G2532 mothers, G3384 and G2532 children, G5043 and G2532 lands, G68 with G3326 persecutions; G1375 and G2532 in G1722 the world G165 to come G2064 eternal G166 life. G2222

                              But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. Mark 10:30.

                              and in the world to come eternal life.

                              Who G3739 shall G618 G0 not G3364 receive G618 manifold more G4179 in G1722 this G5129 present time, G2540 and G2532 in G1722 the world G165 to come G2064 life G2222 everlasting. G166 Luke 18:30.

                              Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.

                              and in the world to come life everlasting.

                              http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...+to+come&t=KJV

                              Those who say, there is not a LIFE or AGE to come, is either blind, or lying to themselves, or BOTH.
                              Shalom Eliyahu, the Spirit gives life, does it not? If you have the Spirit, then you have Life, and that Life that you have NOW, guarantees the Life that IS to come. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.
                              Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                              Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                              Abstain from meats offered to idols
                              (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                              So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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