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    spiritual necrophilia
    what is that?

    aka ''when we die we go to heaven to be with jesus'' = it is anointed once for man to die.
    = spiritual necrophilia

    sigh'
    how long do people remain so blind and naked?
    sigh

    RELIGIOUS christian CULT-ure is a trap of death
    sigh
    so sad to see the 3D world of vanity win.

  • #2
    The Heaven God Never Promised And The One He Did

    I ask people,
    What do you want to go to heaven for?

    Some want to explore the universe.
    One can explore here also.
    Someone else desires to see the flowers and plants.
    There are beautiful flowers and plants here also.
    Almost all men are desiring to go to heaven, or some afterlife, where everything is finally restful and peaceful, and there is no more hate or war.

    Yes, most of all, men want peace.
    At least, they think they want peace.
    They little realize they have been the ones who made the earth as it is.

    They do not realize that heaven does not bring peace.
    Did heaven bring peace to The devil and his angels?
    No it did not.
    Fully one third of the heavenly angels left heaven and hated God, according to the Scriptures.
    They felt that God was unfair and that His government was corrupted.


    Did the garden of Eden bring peace to Adam and Eve?
    It did not.
    Everyone knows this, but they continue to want to go to heaven so that things will change for them.

    Millions of souls expect a Messiah that wasn't promised, a heaven that doesn't exist, and a God who does not do what they think He does.
    Heaven appears only in one way.

    One must give up to it now. [heaven is found within you according to Jesus]

    Then, when a soul has entered heaven, he can go to heaven in the heaven he has entered.
    One cannot create heaven by himself, since that creation would only come from his selfish, self-centered ego.
    You want a heaven for your own delights.
    You want heaven to give YOU something.

    There is no such place.
    That is the world you have now.

    What you have now is as good as God can do for you considering your faith and your will.
    If you have heaven now, then that is the heaven you will have hereafter.

    If you have hell now, then that is the hell you will keep, unless of course, you change it.
    But how can the self work to create its own demise?

    How can your selfish, self-interests be brought around to bring you to your end?
    They cannot.

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    • #3
      Some souls think that heaven is a place where one feels euphoric.

      Some souls think that heaven is a place where one feels euphoric.
      It is not, but if euphoric is what one wants there is always LSD or some other hallucinogenic.
      When in the hospital, there are times when a patient has an increase of carbon dioxide in his system.
      This causes him to have visions of lights, heaven, and other wonderful things.
      Some have out of body experiences this way.

      If heaven consisted of these effects, one would just insure that he have an increase of carbon dioxide in his brain and he would be in heaven.

      I ask, What do you want out of heaven that is not available here?

      If you were, at this moment, whisked off to a heaven somewhere, would that improve you any?

      Would your selfishness suddenly disappear?
      No.
      It did not disappear for the devil.
      actually It appeared there.


      Would your temper soften and would you receive a nice sweet spirit there?
      Did it have that effect on the devil?

      Do you want to go to a place where you will not be fearful and can always have a trusting experience?
      Did heaven do away with the devils fear or distrust?
      If a fearful person went to heaven he would just fear being thrown out.

      How would heaven cure anything?
      It cannot and will not.

      Some people hope that God will change them.
      Did God change the devil?
      Well, you say, the devil didn't want changing.
      Then I ask, Do you?

      Then if you want changing why has not God changed you?

      May I suggest it is because you do not want changing, or perhaps God does not change people like you think He does?
      A thousand heavens would not change your ill temper, impatience, unbelieving spirit, self-righteousness, gloom, sternness, and negativity.

      No they would not and could not.
      If God would change you, you would have been changed by now, wouldn't you?

      Does God delight in your torment so He waits around to finally cure you of your disposition?
      How long would it take the God of the universe to change someone if He were going to change him?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
        I ask people,
        What do you want to go to heaven for?

        Some want to explore the universe.
        One can explore here also.
        Someone else desires to see the flowers and plants.
        There are beautiful flowers and plants here also.
        Almost all men are desiring to go to heaven, or some afterlife, where everything is finally restful and peaceful, and there is no more hate or war.

        Yes, most of all, men want peace.
        At least, they think they want peace.
        They little realize they have been the ones who made the earth as it is.

        They do not realize that heaven does not bring peace.
        Did heaven bring peace to The devil and his angels?
        No it did not.
        Fully one third of the heavenly angels left heaven and hated God, according to the Scriptures.
        They felt that God was unfair and that His government was corrupted.


        Did the garden of Eden bring peace to Adam and Eve?
        It did not.
        Everyone knows this, but they continue to want to go to heaven so that things will change for them.

        Millions of souls expect a Messiah that wasn't promised, a heaven that doesn't exist, and a God who does not do what they think He does.
        Heaven appears only in one way.

        One must give up to it now. [heaven is found within you according to Jesus]

        Then, when a soul has entered heaven, he can go to heaven in the heaven he has entered.
        One cannot create heaven by himself, since that creation would only come from his selfish, self-centered ego.
        You want a heaven for your own delights.
        You want heaven to give YOU something.

        There is no such place.
        That is the world you have now.

        What you have now is as good as God can do for you considering your faith and your will.
        If you have heaven now, then that is the heaven you will have hereafter.

        If you have hell now, then that is the hell you will keep, unless of course, you change it.
        But how can the self work to create its own demise?

        How can your selfish, self-interests be brought around to bring you to your end?
        They cannot.
        Really Lucy?

        Well, John wrote in the book of Revelation and says:

        And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia(HalleluYAH); Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto YAHWEH our Elohm: Revelation 19:1

        I heard a great voice of much people in heaven,

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        • #5
          according to Jesus HEAVEN IS WITHIN...................not a location

          The soul that dies miserable, will only awaken miserable, to undergo his miserable judgment.

          The soul that dies in truth or lives in truth, full of the Father's blessing and peace to his soul, will only awaken with that blessing.

          Some have tried so hard to give up their miserableness and evil temper, but they continue to fight for their rights.
          Fighting for their rights guarantees no peace for them.

          In this, men kill each other, all the while fighting for their just cause.
          Every selfish soul has one.
          Give up your rights, just causes and even your life.

          Let the kingdom of God be in you.
          It already exists.
          It is already real and alive here and now.
          Take the ''Christ Anointing'' upon yourself by yielding up yourself to it and then forget yourself.
          Now there may be a heaven for you, and it will begin right where you are.

          The kingdom of God that is nigh unto you is one that is full of love and truth.
          It is void of self-interest.

          There is never a moment of discontent, worry, trouble, doubt, fear, foreboding, jealousy, guilt, hatred, or insecurity.
          There is rest to the soul and a heart full of the love of the Father.

          This is the result of one's laying himself down and yielding himself up to what already exists.
          It is like being in a room with the lights already on.
          You simply open your eyes to the light.

          There is nothing that need occur, except that you open your eyes to the light and open your ears to the word.
          Nothing has changed except that you see what exists.

          Come up to the heavenly delights. Enter into the gates that have been opened for you.

          The kingdom of God comes not with observation: neither shall they say, Look here! or, look there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Luke 17:20-21.
          don't allow THE ANTI CHRIST SPIRIT IN CHRISTIANITY TO ROB YOU OF GOD'S BEST.....
          LOOK AT JOHN 11 V 24 25 26 = ASK FOR UNDERSTANDING SO GOD'S BEST WILL BE IMPARTED UNTO YOU


          the devil will do anything to stop your true understanding....as the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN WAS WITHIN JESUS... so too... HIS DISCIPLES... AMEN,
          Jesus said,
          “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:20-21).
          The first part of Jesus’ answer has been fairly easy to understand.
          Misunderstanding regarding the latter part however, has given many an incomplete picture of the Kingdom.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
            The soul that dies miserable, will only awaken miserable, to undergo his miserable judgment.

            The soul that dies in truth or lives in truth, full of the Father's blessing and peace to his soul, will only awaken with that blessing.

            Some have tried so hard to give up their miserableness and evil temper, but they continue to fight for their rights.
            Fighting for their rights guarantees no peace for them.

            In this, men kill each other, all the while fighting for their just cause.
            Every selfish soul has one.
            Give up your rights, just causes and even your life.

            Let the kingdom of God be in you.
            It already exists.
            It is already real and alive here and now.
            Take the ''Christ Anointing'' upon yourself by yielding up yourself to it and then forget yourself.
            Now there may be a heaven for you, and it will begin right where you are.

            The kingdom of God that is nigh unto you is one that is full of love and truth.
            It is void of self-interest.

            There is never a moment of discontent, worry, trouble, doubt, fear, foreboding, jealousy, guilt, hatred, or insecurity.
            There is rest to the soul and a heart full of the love of the Father.

            This is the result of one's laying himself down and yielding himself up to what already exists.
            It is like being in a room with the lights already on.
            You simply open your eyes to the light.

            There is nothing that need occur, except that you open your eyes to the light and open your ears to the word.
            Nothing has changed except that you see what exists.

            Come up to the heavenly delights. Enter into the gates that have been opened for you.
            Correction Lucy,

            Neither G3761 shall they say, G2046 Lo G2400 here! G5602 or, G2228 lo G2400 there! G1563 for, G1063 behold, G2400 the kingdom G932 of God G2316 is G2076 within G1787 you. G5216

            Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within G1787 you. Luke 17:21.

            within G1787 From ἐν (G1722)

            1.within you i.e. in the midst of you

            G1722 1.in, by, with etc.

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            • #7
              Correction Lucy,

              Neither G3761 shall they say, G2046 Lo G2400 here! G5602 or, G2228 lo G2400 there! G1563 for, G1063 behold, G2400 the kingdom G932 of God G2316 is G2076 within G1787 you. G5216

              Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within G1787 you. Luke 17:21.

              within G1787 From ἐν (G1722)

              1.within you i.e. in the midst of you

              G1722 1.in, by, with etc.
              -----------------------------------------------

              Also,

              And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question. Mark 12:34.

              Thou art not far from the kingdom of God.

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              • #8
                the BEST WAY to gain understanding is to ASK YESHUA AND HIS SPIRIT

                CHRISTIANITY is a perverse CULT filled with an anti Christ spirit that brings death to the pews.

                they remain the walking dead.
                they have a massive problem of devilish UNBELIEF.

                THE SIMPLY WAY always is to LOOK at the nature and character and ministry of YESHUA... to see how it works.
                so
                did YESHUA walk in the realm of the KINGDOM?
                YES/NO/MAYBE

                the answer is yes.
                he lived in 3D vanity BUT REMAINED outside of this religion and all social values.

                so.. HE PRESENTED ''CHRIST'' [THE POWER VERB THE FULLNESS OF HOLY SPIRIT ANOINTING] AND OFCOURSE RADIATED HIS KINGDOM to all men called THE GOODNEWS.
                SO THE KINGDOM WAS WITHIN YESHUA AND IN THE MIDST OF YESHUA...

                see how easy it becomes when HE TELLS

                so now to consider
                THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN WAS/IS REFLECTED WITHIN YESHUA - YES...
                so is this KINGDOM to be reflected within HIS DISCIPLES [THE EKKLESIA]
                ofcourse.

                the workmanship in all disciples is progressive walk into the FULLNESS OF CHRIST WHICH IS HEAVEN WITHIN AND IN THE MIDST OF...

                THE IMAGE IS CHRIST is to be found inside the ekklesia
                Yeshua never has to corrupted body....

                THE HEAD AND THE BODY = MUST BE THE SAME KIND
                THE HEAD, CANOT HAVE A FOUL ABUSED PERVERSE BODY = NO.
                THE HEAD, HAS A BODY IDENTICAL IN VALUE.

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                • #9
                  Show us a verse saying, the Kingdom of Heaven is within us-you?

                  Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                  CHRISTIANITY is a perverse CULT filled with an anti Christ spirit that brings death to the pews.

                  they remain the walking dead.
                  they have a massive problem of devilish UNBELIEF.

                  THE SIMPLY WAY always is to LOOK at the nature and character and ministry of YESHUA... to see how it works.
                  so
                  did YESHUA walk in the realm of the KINGDOM?
                  YES/NO/MAYBE

                  the answer is yes.
                  he lived in 3D vanity BUT REMAINED outside of this religion and all social values.

                  so.. HE PRESENTED ''CHRIST'' [THE POWER VERB THE FULLNESS OF HOLY SPIRIT ANOINTING] AND OFCOURSE RADIATED HIS KINGDOM to all men called THE GOODNEWS.
                  SO THE KINGDOM WAS WITHIN YESHUA AND IN THE MIDST OF YESHUA...

                  see how easy it becomes when HE TELLS

                  so now to consider
                  THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN WAS/IS REFLECTED WITHIN YESHUA - YES...
                  so is this KINGDOM to be reflected within HIS DISCIPLES [THE EKKLESIA]
                  ofcourse.

                  the workmanship in all disciples is progressive walk into the FULLNESS OF CHRIST WHICH IS HEAVEN WITHIN AND IN THE MIDST OF...

                  THE IMAGE IS CHRIST is to be found inside the ekklesia
                  Yeshua never has to corrupted body....

                  THE HEAD AND THE BODY = MUST BE THE SAME KIND
                  THE HEAD, CANOT HAVE A FOUL ABUSED PERVERSE BODY = NO.
                  THE HEAD, HAS A BODY IDENTICAL IN VALUE.
                  Lucy,

                  Show us a verse of scripture saying, the Kingdom of Heaven is within us-you?

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                  • #10
                    Lucy,

                    Show us a verse of scripture saying, the Kingdom of Heaven is within us-you?

                    Here below are all the verses of scriptures showing the 3 words kingdom of heaven.

                    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...f+heaven&t=KJV

                    Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 7:21.

                    Well, do you enter yourself? How stupid can people get?

                    shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;

                    Show us a verse of scripture saying, the Kingdom of Heaven is within us-you?

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                    • #11
                      Heaven is a................... P.e.r.s.o.n.

                      Truth is a person
                      eternal life is a person
                      love is a person
                      wisdom is a person


                      http://spiritualityhealth.com/articl...aven-inside-us
                      so is heaven,

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                      • #12
                        Heaven is a................... P.e.r.s.o.n.

                        TRUTH IS A PERSON
                        ETERNAL LIFE IS A PERSON
                        LOVE IS A PERSON
                        WISDOM IS A PERSON

                        SO IS HEAVEN,

                        Heaven is not a place
                        It is a happening.
                        It happens in you and me.

                        The inner beauty
                        And the serenity
                        In moments of true love
                        are its own reward.

                        In selfless love, heaven happens.
                        Heaven has no borders,
                        No distinctions, and
                        Monopoly of none.

                        Heaven transcends all religions.
                        Dr. Antony Theodore



                        And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying,
                        “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man.
                        He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God.
                        heaven is not someplace... its when u are filled with the FULLNESS OF CHRIST... pray for it = pray the divine GOODNEWS is imparted into your life.

                        the vital thing is to be REMOVED from Christianity, and, be filled with Christ [ the anointed verb of Gods power life.]

                        YESHUA FLOWED WITH IT AS ''LIVING WATER''.

                        [john7]

                        pray to be '' a temple of the holy spirit'' = enchristed.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                          TRUTH IS A PERSON
                          ETERNAL LIFE IS A PERSON
                          LOVE IS A PERSON
                          WISDOM IS A PERSON

                          SO IS HEAVEN,

                          Heaven is not a place
                          It is a happening.
                          It happens in you and me.

                          The inner beauty
                          And the serenity
                          In moments of true love
                          are its own reward.

                          In selfless love, heaven happens.
                          Heaven has no borders,
                          No distinctions, and
                          Monopoly of none.

                          Heaven transcends all religions.
                          Dr. Antony Theodore





                          heaven is not someplace... its when u are filled with the FULLNESS OF CHRIST... pray for it = pray the divine GOODNEWS is imparted into your life.

                          the vital thing is to be REMOVED from Christianity, and, be filled with Christ [ the anointed verb of Gods power life.]

                          YESHUA FLOWED WITH IT AS ''LIVING WATER''.

                          [john7]

                          pray to be '' a temple of the holy spirit'' = enchristed.
                          Lucy,

                          Has this below already happened?

                          And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

                          And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

                          And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
                          Rev.21:1-3.

                          I don't think so.

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                          • #14
                            Rev.11:15.

                            Lucy,

                            Has this also below already happened?

                            And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Revelation 11:15.

                            I don't think so.

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                            • #15
                              why? do the pews all die from SIN.? = the pews sit under the false~~~~

                              They Are ALL False
                              from the'' olivet journal''


                              Let me warn you …. that they are well trained professional con-men and women, actors, hypocrites, who deceive and swindle Christians and unsuspecting people for living. They make unbelievable amount of money taking from those people and live off of it, claiming that “The Lord blessed me!” And, they are extremely “organized,” behave in one accord, and are part of the worldwide Illuminati-Masonic system, which controls the WHOLE WORLD.

                              I have covered the deception of the Messianic and Hebraic Roots Movements quite a bit in the Judaism and Kabbalah series. They are all false and based on Kabbalah … no question about it. But, you might have been wondering … then, what about the other ministries? What about those who profess to be Christians, Protestant, Evangelical, Pentecostal, Baptist, Methodist, etc. etc.? … Are they also ALL FALSE?.

                              Please know this truth:

                              The same enemy who have created the Messianic Jewish and Hebrew Roots Movements
                              created the false church going back almost 2000 years.

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