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    Originally posted by ImAHebrew
    Hi Lucy, good to see you do stop by every so often. Ken

    what you don't understand Kenny doll in your religious sincere way...
    is

    all His EKKLESIA was with HIM right from their beginning of their creation
    He tells His disciples this and then all this startling goodnews so they never are confounded nor doubt.
    He eats this ''covenant of SALT WITH EACH ONE'' AND PROGRESSIVELY EXPLAINS THE REAL DIVINE SUPERNATURAL GOD-NEWS [ GOODNEWS]

    THE LORDS PRAYER STATES ''DELIVER US FROM EVIL'' = ARE YOU YOUR OWN DELIVERER or the creator WHO WILLINGLY DELIVERS THOSE WHO ARE HIS............................................................


    when you get this divine knowing...post to me then we will talk
    BYE IAH
    I am rooting for ya~~~~~

  • #2
    outside the religious Matrix made up of VICTIMS

    AKA = those who have guilt, fears, sin,
    is the FIRST FRUIT EKKLESIA
    = who are no longer those fear filled VICTIMS but great enchristed warriors [ as per Gideon's army and the 300]

    the ''poor woe is me group of victims'' remain in their guilty cages of bondages and are never a part of the divine Ekklesia and its disciples

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    • #3
      2nd group of 100!

      Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
      AKA = those who have guilt, fears, sin,
      is the FIRST FRUIT EKKLESIA
      = who are no longer those fear filled VICTIMS but great enchristed warriors [ as per Gideon's army and the 300]

      the ''poor woe is me group of victims'' remain in their guilty cages of bondages and are never a part of the divine Ekklesia and its disciples
      Hi Lucy, I hope to be part of the SECOND group of 100. Which group do you hope to be part of? Ken

      P.S. Do you see? This is my 1,111th post. Please take it seriously my Doll.

      P.S.S. Do you wonder why there has only been about 300 NASA astronauts?
      Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

      Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
      Abstain from meats offered to idols
      (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
      So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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      • #4
        KENNY DOLL you have my best wishes 4 you success...truly

        i think, it is best to be NON religious for i find all religion, really CORRUPTS PERFECTLY because it falls so short of Yeshua's Gospel.
        the 300 of Gideon, where selected because of their faith and their faith, was their ''work'' that CREATED the VICTORY
        THEY WERE WITHOUT FEAR as they had overcome all their fears.

        this is an outstanding feature because our eye sight is such a powerful deadly thing, that BLOCKS OUR EYES from seeing into the invisible


        now each disciple in the Ekklesia is on the same page... therefore when i read this edification i am delighted.

        God allowed the fall so that Overcomers could in time bring the fallen creation back into the spiritual creation and the spiritual creation back into the natural – but healed – fallen creation. As it is at this time the Overcomers are finished their courses, a bold statement of faith, but it is truth, all that is needed for a yielded people has been accomplished. Jesus has seen the travail of His soul in the life of the Overcomer and He is satisfied. There IS an end coming for us of the personal cross and of the trials of life, a great peace is to come to those whom God has deemed as His Overcomers.



        Overcomers do not overcome just so that they can be separate from evil in the world or in the systems of man or man’s religion. Overcomers overcome so that they can conquer these systems and subject them to the Kingdom of God. Full power and authority will be given to those in glorified bodies to bring all of creation into full liberty and eternal life in the Kingdom of God EVEN in this natural creation. Theirs will be the right and honor to bring all that is distanced from God by the fall back into oneness with God in full fellowship unbroken eternally. Not only the love of God displayed through them, but God’s full government which they will bear so that this fellowship can become, for God Himself, a reality. God who is holy will make Himself Holy with ALL His creation, not just part of it. The fellowship He once desired with Adam He will have again when Adam himself is restored to this great deliverance. The Overcomers overcome in the seven churches so that they can consume the seven churches and bring them into God’s eternal church. The candlestick which has the person of the risen Jesus standing in the midst will illuminate this darkness till the darkness is no more; such will be the work of the Overcomers in this age that is dawning.



        To the Overcomers will the rule of the Kingdom of God be given, these are the 144,000, the number of those who form the full bodied government of God. A number of individuals that only God Himself knows but who are His cabinet and power of Throne and rule. With that rule of the Kingdom will come complete power and authority to destroy utterly all the systems of men that have been conceived and maintained under this fallen curse. The order of life, the rule of law, all of it will come in subjection to something even better, the rule of His Kingdom. With a rod of iron these Overcomers shall rule and shall break to “shivers”, (pieces), all of man’s kingdoms and nations and governments and ruling authorities; all so that they can come without any fault into the Kingdom of His rule. It is not that God is angry with the rule of man, even if man’s rule is an ungodly rule, it is just that His rule is so far above the rule of man that His rule will overtake and consume all that has ruled men’s lives previous. It is a rule that will be accomplished by the mind of the Father thinking in the glorified bodies of the Overcomers and the minds of the Overcomers in unison thinking thoughts that the Father thinks with them. Their minds and their rule will be a convincing rule with no haste yet done in immediacy. No time frame between thoughts of governing rule shall they possess, it will be instant and eternal, such will be the perfect rule of the Overcomers IN the earth In His Kingdom.



        Just as Jesus was a flesh and bone body now living in the spiritual world, so shall it be for the Overcomers, some raised from their graves, others alive and remaining, their flesh and bone bodies will take on spiritual fullness and the spiritual fullness will take on the physical body. In a glorified state as Jesus is now, so shall these be, bone, flesh, but spiritual and holy. Absent will be the mind of carnality which is the minding of flesh in the life of the world. Absent will be a heart distanced from fellowship with God. Instead a complete oneness with Christ will bring about the change in all this natural creation, this liberty will be for all creation, all nations, no one will be left out of it when the Overcomers are glorified. Each will enjoy the peaceable fruits of the Kingdom of God by the Overcomers new rule in the earth. The Overcomer as an individual will be able to walk in the highest heaven, sit upon the Throne with Christ, walk upon the earth and walk in the midst of the nations and walk with the spirits of the dead, all of this at the very same time. They will stand upon the earth before the nations and be seated with Christ upon the Throne and preach liberty to the dead all at the very same time. Such is the future work and call to those who will be glorified at His coming, those who are the government of God.





        Kenneth B Visscher

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        • #5
          11 11 = very significant #....300 very significant #

          Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
          Hi Lucy, I hope to be part of the SECOND group of 100. Which group do you hope to be part of? Ken

          P.S. Do you see? This is my 1,111th post. Please take it seriously my Doll.

          P.S.S. Do you wonder why there has only been about 300 NASA astronauts?
          #1111 - a wake up call.


          wakening, Wake Up Call, fresh spiritual awakening into more, supernatural favour and provision to take possession of promises, transition and alignment, revival. God is bringing life to the dead things and places. God is breathing encounters over you to WAKE YOU UP into spiritual clarity, fresh connected relationship with Him, and awakened sense of identity in God and your exciting eternal purpose.

          Isaiah 11:11 “In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the surviving remnant of his people…” God is with his remnant.
          John 11:11 “After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.” Resurrection life, God of the impossible, AWAKENING
          Deut 11:11 “But the land you are crossing the Jordan to take possession of is a land of mountains and valleys that drinks rain from heaven.”





          #300The Number 300 - The Spirit of God

          And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
          Genesis 1.2
          The exact words written in this verse are:

          The Spirit of God
          This is an example of the intimate relation between the Holy Spirit and the Letter Shin. This further manifests in one of the primary symbolic meanings of Shin, found by combining it with with Aleph to form the word pic (Esh, Fire). As it is written (Matthew 3):

          I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
          Fire, the Holy Spirit, and the name Elohim are further integrated through the Full spelling of the Divine Name Elohim:

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          • #6
            leaving all forms of church indoctrination aside...

            the only way to walk in Yeshua's ekklesia is the narrow way = to walk by His faith and not by My eyesight or carnal thinking all learnt here in the Matrix of vanity

            this allows victory because OUR FAITH CREATES.
            so simple a thing.. but faith creates a substance of things hoped for
            IF you dont 'work' at this developing faith, you die.
            what from?
            your personal unbelief.
            you can know every word in the bible and quote every passage and still die from your sin
            what sin?
            the sins of unbelief.

            you have to recognise few walk in such faith
            are you doing this?
            or just an unbelieving bible quoter

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            • #7
              Yes Lucy, FALSE doctrine needs to be left behind.

              Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
              the only way to walk in Yeshua's ekklesia is the narrow way = to walk by His faith and not by My eyesight or carnal thinking all learnt here in the Matrix of vanity

              this allows victory because OUR FAITH CREATES.
              so simple a thing.. but faith creates a substance of things hoped for
              IF you dont 'work' at this developing faith, you die.
              what from?
              your personal unbelief.
              you can know every word in the bible and quote every passage and still die from your sin
              what sin?
              the sins of unbelief.

              you have to recognise few walk in such faith
              are you doing this?
              or just an unbelieving bible quoter
              Hi Lucy, yes, I agree with you that "false" beliefs and doctrines needs to be destroyed and left behind. And yes, FAITH is required, but how does one acquire FAITH? Do we burn our bibles, do we unquote every Scripture, do we develop FAITH by abandoning The Word of Elohim? Just exactly, how did you acquire YOUR Faith Lucy, was it by anything that you could point too? Ken
              Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

              Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
              Abstain from meats offered to idols
              (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
              So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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              • #8
                hello Ken

                i think Ken, the bible is only a type of guide not the end all of everything,,
                You know in john 21 He says that the whole world couldn't hold the books of all the things Jesus did.

                IN the NT there are 37 examples of miracles/works of His - just the tip of this divine iceberg well so is the bible.
                just the tip of all divine learning.[they were just ''examples'']

                The 300 men of Gideon's army learnt how to be victorious outside the ''accepted norm'' of OT worship
                And ofcourse so did Calab, these men HEARD how to be victorious OUTSIDE all ''accepted norms'' of OT worship

                Abraham didn't have a bible YET HE HEARD - and developed divine believing faith to do what was needed as did BROTHER NOAH
                THE BIBLE IS NOT GOD Ken, just a rough outline a guide post back into the narrow way.
                [the bible infact is a grossy corrupted work of diamonds and dung]

                now the Saviour's faith developed inside a disciple CREATES the divine realm of FATHER'S WILL not only for the disciple but also for the world..''thy kingdom come'' stuff.
                I know Ken, from a vast experience THIS GIFT OF FAITH WALKING is the cross.
                ONCE YOU ARE UP ON THE CROSS, there aint no way you can come down, because the mind, has been divinely altered, to bear the cross till death to adam in us, is deleted and is no more.

                I also know, very few, had it in this world.
                The power of adam in us is too strong, and also makes excuses, why it is not necessary to hang on our cross and die.
                This adam man within is also rather religious, yet remains FILLED with unbelief, and in this truth, cannot be cured because Yeshua cannot work in unbelief.
                It is impossible because all personal UNBELIEF is outside the divine work.
                = faith creates and nothing else will.

                I would love you to think very carefully of your own UNBELIEF regarding your will.
                a man under the divine LIFE ETERNAL has no mindset = '''i must make out a will'' because the whole spirit soul and body [at a true born again event and baptism in water and fire] has been ALTERED TO PROGRESSIVELY delete death and death thinking within because YESHUA IS NOW, THE HIGH PRIEST OF ETERNAL ENDLESS LIFE - not of death
                The pews the church all religion, however sincere, dies.
                why?
                because of their unbelieving ignorance and false concepts of the true intimate relationship with ABBA Himself

                Now what have I ''acquired by faith'' you asked Ken?
                a totally transformed personality as did all heros of FAITH
                a divine care and sharing shepherding from my Saviour
                divine miracles is a norm
                and most of all a very special thing Kenny doll.............. A HELPING LOVING HAND to everyone i personally meet, that is supernatural and an extreme HATRED FOR FALSE CONCEPTS THAT MURDERS the brethren
                I HATE to see religious people living like swine. Yes swine, eating lying religious pigs swill that kills them as they lurch from one drama to another as victims of satan and his kingdom.
                the swine in you dear Kenny is ''the will'' your eating your own unbelief.
                but i have high hopes for you dear pal.... extremely high

                again you asked HOW DID I ACQUIRE HIS FAITH TO WALK THROUGH THE FIRE OF TESTING and NOT SMELL OF SMOKE
                i did it Ken, because i had no choice but too, because my life was so terrible in all manner of ways, i didn't want this type of human life in me anymore...............
                so i pleaded with Yeshua, begged and begged to MAKE ME OBEY HIS WILL, HIS THINKING, HIS MANNER OF LIFE and it happened but it was a terrible, dreadful, harrowing, ugly experience, and i can well understand why so few walk this way.
                i cannot even begin to tell you, the terrible death of our old man within and how he wars against dying and how our true man within THE DIVINE CHILD SPIRIT must grow and mature and win.

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                • #9
                  I am having a hard time following you?

                  Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                  i think Ken, the bible is only a type of guide not the end all of everything,,
                  You know in john 21 He says that the whole world couldn't hold the books of all the things Jesus did.

                  IN the NT there are 37 examples of miracles/works of His - just the tip of this divine iceberg well so is the bible.
                  just the tip of all divine learning.[they were just ''examples'']

                  The 300 men of Gideon's army learnt how to be victorious outside the ''accepted norm'' of OT worship
                  And ofcourse so did Calab, these men HEARD how to be victorious OUTSIDE all ''accepted norms'' of OT worship

                  Abraham didn't have a bible YET HE HEARD - and developed divine believing faith to do what was needed as did BROTHER NOAH
                  THE BIBLE IS NOT GOD Ken, just a rough outline a guide post back into the narrow way.
                  [the bible infact is a grossy corrupted work of diamonds and dung]

                  now the Saviour's faith developed inside a disciple CREATES the divine realm of FATHER'S WILL not only for the disciple but also for the world..''thy kingdom come'' stuff.
                  I know Ken, from a vast experience THIS GIFT OF FAITH WALKING is the cross.
                  ONCE YOU ARE UP ON THE CROSS, there aint no way you can come down, because the mind, has been divinely altered, to bear the cross till death to adam in us, is deleted and is no more.

                  I also know, very few, had it in this world.
                  The power of adam in us is too strong, and also makes excuses, why it is not necessary to hang on our cross and die.
                  This adam man within is also rather religious, yet remains FILLED with unbelief, and in this truth, cannot be cured because Yeshua cannot work in unbelief.
                  It is impossible because all personal UNBELIEF is outside the divine work.
                  = faith creates and nothing else will.

                  I would love you to think very carefully of your own UNBELIEF regarding your will.
                  a man under the divine LIFE ETERNAL has no mindset = '''i must make out a will'' because the whole spirit soul and body [at a true born again event and baptism in water and fire] has been ALTERED TO PROGRESSIVELY delete death and death thinking within because YESHUA IS NOW, THE HIGH PRIEST OF ETERNAL ENDLESS LIFE - not of death
                  The pews the church all religion, however sincere, dies.
                  why?
                  because of their unbelieving ignorance and false concepts of the true intimate relationship with ABBA Himself

                  Now what have I ''acquired by faith'' you asked Ken?
                  a totally transformed personality as did all heros of FAITH
                  a divine care and sharing shepherding from my Saviour
                  divine miracles is a norm
                  and most of all a very special thing Kenny doll.............. A HELPING LOVING HAND to everyone i personally meet, that is supernatural and an extreme HATRED FOR FALSE CONCEPTS THAT MURDERS the brethren
                  I HATE to see religious people living like swine. Yes swine, eating lying religious pigs swill that kills them as they lurch from one drama to another as victims of satan and his kingdom.
                  the swine in you dear Kenny is ''the will'' your eating your own unbelief.
                  but i have high hopes for you dear pal.... extremely high

                  again you asked HOW DID I ACQUIRE HIS FAITH TO WALK THROUGH THE FIRE OF TESTING and NOT SMELL OF SMOKE
                  i did it Ken, because i had no choice but too, because my life was so terrible in all manner of ways, i didn't want this type of human life in me anymore...............
                  so i pleaded with Yeshua, begged and begged to MAKE ME OBEY HIS WILL, HIS THINKING, HIS MANNER OF LIFE and it happened but it was a terrible, dreadful, harrowing, ugly experience, and i can well understand why so few walk this way.
                  i cannot even begin to tell you, the terrible death of our old man within and how he wars against dying and how our true man within THE DIVINE CHILD SPIRIT must grow and mature and win.
                  Hi Lucy, it's difficult to follow you. One one hand you say that the Elohim of the OT was Satan, yet, on the other hand you say that Abraham had a "divine believing faith?" Who did Abraham believe in? Ken
                  Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                  Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                  Abstain from meats offered to idols
                  (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                  So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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                  • #10
                    yes...you have to discern Ken. to know THE DIAMONDS and how to find them - fruits.

                    and Yes i imagine that you would as satan is the ''god'' or THE LORD of the OT.
                    how do we know?
                    you look at the fruit and its character, to '''see'' who is who.

                    you must learn to do it Ken.
                    why?
                    Abraham was before the law of Moses = He heard from THE FATHER OF LIFE.
                    [not some god out from a ''collection of ancient Gods hybrids and others '' who had ancient advanced technology that killed with one swipe thousands of innocent peoples]

                    you know when you read history you find out many different ideas about these OT ''gods'' and Mt SINAI was the center of worship of the MOON GOD CALLED ''SIN'' for the ancient beginnings. [ this is well recorded history]
                    [THE WORSHIP OF SIN]
                    a clue to the moon god worship was '' the day began at 6pm, when the MOON APPEARED and ended at 6am when the moon was no longer a light]
                    SAME AS YOUR SABBATH DAY worship = the worship of SIN
                    [OH DEAR - dont be ignorant dear pal, its not worth it]


                    Yeshua continually said people were BLIND... why Ken?
                    when all the 613 laws and ordinances and Levitical system was in vogue for 1500yrs.
                    HOW were THEY BLIND AND why could the not HEAR?
                    and why did they die IN SIN... when ample killing of dear animals took their sins away
                    it like some mad fairy tale with a wicked witch church people are programmed to believe without question.

                    the character of THE FATHER OF US ALL IS FOUND IN JOHN 3 V 16 = THERE IT IS STARING AT YOU... read and weep
                    everything in the whole bible that speaks of a petty, small minded revengeful ''god'' is of satanic inspiration...or... a corrupted writing of lies by evil scribes

                    why not learn to ask Ken, rather than BE TOLD by the church clergy how to think
                    LEARN TO THINK LIKE YESHUA and you are 1/2 way home.

                    '''follow Me''' = is the ability to walk like HIM.
                    and no one on the planet ever did BUT HIMSELF

                    You walk like the lutherians and the armstrongites and other assorted CHRISTIAN systems that kill everyone under them [maybe with a wee twist.]

                    KEN little buddy.. please give it all away.
                    The tomb is waiting for ya if you dont...PLEASE DONT BE MURDERED BY RELIGION ask to hear and to see.
                    why?
                    death is such a waste Ken, as a life lived in vain and the MATRIX WON AGAIN

                    one thing i notice Ken, is your failure to hear what i post as you always ask the mostly inconsequential questions as if you are a inattentive child and missed the point

                    an EAR TO HEAR - and the religious pews never do~~~~

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                    • #11
                      cont to Ken.

                      you know IAH, i hate to burst your bubble but CHURCH RELIGION taught by the unholy clergy doesnt work.
                      it is a myth and people get ''converted'' into a deadly myth and it works from its very beginning, as the Pharisee mocked Yeshua and killed him SO THE UNHOLY CLERGY KILLS and mocks the very goodnews GOSPEL

                      what IS THE GOODNEWS - PEACE ON EARTH AND GOODWILL to all men = is this the ''fruits of the christian church under the direction of 'apostle' paul and is system?
                      far from it
                      can you tell us, why you are any different, than the 2/3 billion dying christless churchians and their different dogmas and beliefs
                      NO you are no different at all
                      why? are you no different, than the heathen lost as both of you make your wills out~~~~ then visit the funeral homes ''let the dead bury the dead''
                      you worship the MOON GOD,and so belong to paganism, under the guise of ''christianity''

                      WHEN you study THE TRUTH YOU SEEK THE TRUTH PERSON for your answers.
                      this builds up a HOLY RELATIONSHIP, that the clergy cannot give you as they ''sandwich their leadership'' between you and Yeshua..

                      Yeshua continually said HEAR HEAR HEAR = SEE SEE SEE... because none seemed to realise they were already dead lacking ears and eyes to understand.
                      if you study church history you will find out the rotten fruits it is producing.
                      the exact same rotten fruits as the OT produced and need saved from.

                      i know you dont really understand Ken, and i have sympathy for this sad state and what is worst of all, you think you are right.
                      I never do, because each day more and more divine information is imparted... as per

                      FAITH

                      COMES FROM HEARING AND HEARING IS A SOUND, AND A SOUND IS ENERGY AND ENERGY IS A FREQUENCY.
                      faith is a frequency.
                      YESHUA WALKED IN THE DIVINE FREQUENCY OF FAITH.... AND DID WHAT HE DID.

                      because FAITH IS A CREATIVE SUBSTANCE.

                      ASK for divine faith just as the disciples asked....

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                      • #12
                        thousands of hours of study OF THOSE ancient origins.... called CULTS...

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAq4_wKEtew

                        PEOPLE BELIEVE A ''religious'' BOOK, without any witness to PROVE the books are true.
                        its called MIND CONTROL and a CULTure of Belief.
                        The stage was set long long ago upon a method to CON-trol
                        the word ''CON'' should give you a clue.

                        CON - TROL.
                        CON = A TRICK A SCAM
                        TROL = AN UGLY CREATURE

                        ''AND THE WHOLE WORLD LIES IN THE POWER OF THE WICKED ONE.''
                        yes, from the very beginning,'' the CON'' AND ''THE TROL'' were there to make slaves, to fed satan and give him worship.

                        but how can we tell.
                        very easily we can escape the religious mind control scam.
                        YOU LOOK AT THE ''''''CHARACTER'''' of the God you worship and the FRUIT HE BEARS.
                        THE FRUIT INSPECTION must be learnt to escape the power of all deception and if this FRUIT DOESN'T MATCH the PARABLE OF THE '''''PRODIGAL SON''' abandon your belief because you will be murdered by your religion.

                        every area of the MATRIX/VANITY every social system are all CORRUPT = why do you think your religion has ''escaped'' all corruption?

                        there was a saying in the Pentecostal church, going around that said ''FAKE IT TILL YOU MAKE IT'' = it was common knowledge and a''laugh''

                        fake it till you make it -
                        i used to stand there and look at the SINcere people, little knowing at the time, they were corrupted - and then i did a study on good old Agnas Ozman and i left with movement and its false concepts. I wondered why millions stayed and I asked Father... He said it was a ''feel good'' movement and people enjoyed the euphoria of ''RELIGIOUS FEEL GOOD'' experiences.

                        the fruit
                        Yeshua would NEVER say ''obey the Laws of Moses'' in a million years... AS THEY NEVER REFLECT HIS KINGDOM NOR THE EVERY ESSENCE OF '' THE RETURN OF THE PRODIGAL SON'' = A TOTALLY DIFFERENT RECEPTION FROM THE LAWS OF MOSES = that would have stoned such a disobedient son.

                        the revelation of this Parable is so amazing... as in 1 part, the study reveals HOW THE FATHER RAN TO HIS SON AND HELD HIM AND KISSES HIM
                        the revelation reveals an amazing thing that
                        when a religious man walked, it was the custom that the father never ran nor showed his ankles/legs[/B] as it was consider a disgrace.... yet.... we are told.''Father ran [lifted his skirts'' to His son''
                        amen
                        http://magazine.biola.edu/article/10...ldnt-have-run/

                        study is a marvellous thing, to correctly understand THE FRUIT OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS revealed.

                        if you dont wish to live next door to your GOD, you know its isnt one.
                        I say it over and over as Yeshua taught me = FRUIT INSPECTION = REVEALS THE HIDDEN LIFE AND NOT THE 'LIPS LIFE''
                        Last edited by LucySmith; 04-14-2017, 05:58 PM.

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                        • #13
                          the same pattern comes back, from the ancient patterns...PATTERNS

                          YOU LEARN TO STUDY THE WORLD OF PATTERNS
                          study the way people think how each strata is in a pattern....like the waves of the sea.
                          always moving but never stable.
                          divisions that fluctuate + no one knows what the hell is going on.
                          no one even understands religion and the its causes.

                          when you see a PATTERN OF DISHARMONY AND DEATH = KNOW immediately it is NOT FROM the KINGDOM OF GOD...
                          no matter who tells you otherwise.
                          why what is the problem?
                          they walk WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE for knowledge is power and so walk in the religious world yet - walks in the same old stupidity
                          you cannot cure the problem from the clergy that created it.

                          'Apostle Paul' created a division = his system was adopted from its beginning by the RC church and ofcourse is divisional = solution is = its all wrong.
                          [ the pews die therefore the same mistakes are made in each generation and from the very beginning, The PATTERN OF PAUL IS DEATH CHAOS DIVISION.]

                          THE WHOLE THING IS A SHAM.
                          to base our knowledge on such a mess is insanity
                          but who will hear? [rev 2 v 2]
                          so few~~~

                          what/who has ''programmed'' humanity to be insane?
                          and was so well versed in technology to be a ''god''
                          do you know?
                          ofcourse not~~~~you don't have knowledge

                          why is the heart on the left side of the body..... it means in latin - ''its sinister'' - a war is going on in a sinister being.
                          humanity is sinister and the great war is inside of YOU and when you are finally gone the question to be asked is -were you good or evil.
                          because the Armageddon is the end of the world aka - is your death.

                          all this religious swine-swill rubbish makes a disciple sick.....sigh as they are re-trained up BY THE TRUTH PERSON.
                          EARTHLY SYSTEMS - DEATH
                          RELIGION - DEATH
                          NO GOODNEWS in religions.
                          there is NO such a thing as a ''armageddon'' as per Revelation... its man made dung.
                          you can ''see'' in parts of the book of revelation is man made social jewish masonis control.
                          Paul also was 33deg mason written all about in their masonic encyclopedia

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                          • #14
                            YOU LEARN TO STUDY THE WORLD OF PATTERNS
                            study the way people think how each strata is in a pattern....like the waves of the sea.
                            always moving but never stable.
                            divisions that fluctuate + no one knows what the hell is going on.
                            no one even understands religion and the its causes.

                            when you see a PATTERN OF DISHARMONY AND DEATH = KNOW immediately it is NOT FROM the KINGDOM OF GOD... no matter who tells you otherwise.
                            why what is the problem?
                            they walk WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE for knowledge is power and so to walk in the religious world is too walk in the same old stupidity
                            you cannot cure the problem from the clergy that created it.

                            'Apostle Paul' created a division = his system was adopted from its beginning by the RC church and ofcourse is divisional = solution is = its all wrong.
                            [ the pews die therefore the same mistakes are made in each generation and from the very beginning, The PATTERN OF PAUL IS DEATH CHAOS DIVISION.]

                            THE WHOLE THING IS A SHAM.
                            to base our knowledge on such a mess is insanity
                            but who will hear? [rev 2 v 2]
                            so few~~~

                            what/who has ''programmed'' humanity to be insane?
                            and was so well versed in technology to be a ''god''
                            do you know?
                            ofcourse not~~~~you don't have knowledge

                            why is the heart on the left side of the body..... it means in latin - ''its sinister'' - a war is going on in a sinister being.
                            humanity is sinister and the great war is inside of YOU and when you are finally gone the question to be asked is -were you good or evil.
                            because the Armageddon is the end of the world aka - is your death.

                            all this religious swine-swill rubbish makes a disciple sick.....sigh as they are re-trained up BY THE TRUTH PERSON.
                            EARTHLY SYSTEMS - DEATH
                            RELIGION - DEATH
                            NO GOODNEWS in religions.
                            there is NO such a thing as a ''armageddon'' as per Revelation... its man made dung.
                            you can ''see'' in parts of the book of revelation is man made social jewish masonic control.
                            Paul also was 33deg mason written all about in their masonic encyclopedia

                            once you begin to SEE THE CORRUPTION all of a sudden you are changed and the EYE SALVE begins to work and 30000 church divisions are all wrong - chaos confusion and death is their fruits.

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                            • #15
                              The WRATH of the Lamb?

                              Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                              YOU LEARN TO STUDY THE WORLD OF PATTERNS
                              study the way people think how each strata is in a pattern....like the waves of the sea.
                              always moving but never stable.
                              divisions that fluctuate + no one knows what the hell is going on.
                              no one even understands religion and the its causes.

                              when you see a PATTERN OF DISHARMONY AND DEATH = KNOW immediately it is NOT FROM the KINGDOM OF GOD... no matter who tells you otherwise.
                              why what is the problem?
                              they walk WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE for knowledge is power and so to walk in the religious world is too walk in the same old stupidity
                              you cannot cure the problem from the clergy that created it.

                              'Apostle Paul' created a division = his system was adopted from its beginning by the RC church and ofcourse is divisional = solution is = its all wrong.
                              [ the pews die therefore the same mistakes are made in each generation and from the very beginning, The PATTERN OF PAUL IS DEATH CHAOS DIVISION.]

                              THE WHOLE THING IS A SHAM.
                              to base our knowledge on such a mess is insanity
                              but who will hear? [rev 2 v 2]
                              so few~~~

                              what/who has ''programmed'' humanity to be insane?
                              and was so well versed in technology to be a ''god''
                              do you know?
                              ofcourse not~~~~you don't have knowledge

                              why is the heart on the left side of the body..... it means in latin - ''its sinister'' - a war is going on in a sinister being.
                              humanity is sinister and the great war is inside of YOU and when you are finally gone the question to be asked is -were you good or evil.
                              because the Armageddon is the end of the world aka - is your death.

                              all this religious swine-swill rubbish makes a disciple sick.....sigh as they are re-trained up BY THE TRUTH PERSON.
                              EARTHLY SYSTEMS - DEATH
                              RELIGION - DEATH
                              NO GOODNEWS in religions.
                              there is NO such a thing as a ''armageddon'' as per Revelation... its man made dung.
                              you can ''see'' in parts of the book of revelation is man made social jewish masonic control.
                              Paul also was 33deg mason written all about in their masonic encyclopedia

                              once you begin to SEE THE CORRUPTION all of a sudden you are changed and the EYE SALVE begins to work and 30000 church divisions are all wrong - chaos confusion and death is their fruits.
                              Hi Lucy, can you tell me anything about "the Wrath of the Lamb?

                              Rev 6:16 - 6:17 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the throne, and from the Wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of His Wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

                              Lk 23:30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.

                              Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the Wrath of Elohim, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of The Lamb:

                              Jn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the Wrath of Elohim abideth on him.

                              Lucy, just exactly what is the Wrath of the Lamb/Elohim? And how is it different from Yahweh Elohim's WRATH:

                              Psa 78:21 - 78:22 Therefore Yahweh heard [this], and was full of wrath: so a fire was kindled against Jacob, and anger also came up against Israel; 22 Because they believed not in Elohim, and trusted not in His salvation:

                              Heb 3:11 - 3:12 So I sware in My Wrath (Deu 1:34-35 & Psa 95:11), "They shall not enter into my rest." 12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the Living Elohim.

                              Lk 19:27 But those Mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before Me.

                              Lk 3:7 Then said he (John the Baptist) to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the Wrath to come?

                              Yes Lucy, just exactly how different is the WRATH of that "evil" OT Elohim, and the WRATH of The Lamb, which is to come?
                              Ken
                              Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                              Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                              Abstain from meats offered to idols
                              (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                              So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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