Lucy OR Eliyahu

[ImAHebrew]

Hi Everyone, I would like to see who feels will come to the Knowledge of the Truth concerning Grace FIRST, Lucy or Eliyahu? Let me know. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

[LucySmith]

a very deadly false concept................

Hi Everyone, I would like to see who feels will come to the Knowledge of the Truth concerning Grace FIRST, Lucy or Eliyahu? Let me know. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

from a ''false apostle'' and ''my gospel'' he deceived others to believe ..............“In the Christian tradition there is very early precedent for the use of deceptive means for evangelistic purposes.
St. Paul himself makes a remarkable admission of his chameleon-like behaviour in the winning converts.
Like the consummate used-car salesman, Paul pretends to share the concerns of his immediate audience in order to manipulate them into submitting to his Gospel''

this gospel has reproduced horrific bloodlust and confusion and strife = murders and abominations...ordered from the ''highest group of THE CLERY'' as church history proves. millions murdered by a Pauline system of belief out from a book, that proves inhumanity to man

Did Yeshua used deception, lying tactics, and guile ? yes or no?
Paul admits he did..................[end of story]

IAH you have no way of proving grace works but from church history and the shocking fruit it delivered and still doing

[LucySmith]

the used car salesman gospel.....

saul style - an antichrist

Yeshua nor his disciples became homosexuals to save homosexuals and neither prostitutes to save prostitutes.

They didn’t become all to save everybody.
This is totally abomination and hypocrisy.

Paul, from his own writing, his own admission said that he was all to trap people.
What wouldn’t the devil do to deceive?
Yeshua warned us though.

See Matthew 24:4. “Jesus answered: Watch out that no one deceives you.”

[LucySmith]

IAH you need to understand how to view from Yeshua NT perspective not your own

idea
Because 2000yrs of religious conditioning makes death rule the pews.
The thing is you believe in the mind controlling conditioning not in YESHUa's GOSPEL... YOU BELIEVE this ''''' MY'''' GOSPEL.... and so does most of Christendom....CLONES TO A SYSTEM OF DEATH.
Only when a disciple hears FOLLOW ME does the poison of death inc indoctrination cease to flow.

As yet you have not had this experience so you babble on about how everyone fails to understand ''grace in ya face'' as if everyone is stupid and you are the ''religious rocket scientist'' that knows everything about everything.
Well you know heaps ABOUT A TERRIBLE LIE a deadly system that murders the pews and part of the false clergy that peddles the pauline lie of grace.

The fruits of a grace based belief includes warfare, bloodlust, murdering and fear. DEATH AND BLOODSHED.
you are looking at a book that MOSTLY fails to take the responsibility for your own conduct.
Yeshua TELLS US WHAT TO DO... SIMPLY. easy to understand,

why do I need you to teach me a lie IAH that will murder me...WHY ? I was not asked to FOLLOW KEN BROWN aka IAH.... No that is a real woe

christianity is minus CHRIST

[ImAHebrew]

Lucy, I have a sneaky suspicion that Eliyahu is going to be first.

Hi Lucy, I have a sneaky suspicion that Eliyahu will understand Grace before you do. I could be wrong, but when and IF he does, you will be under him, and I'm not sure you will like that.

Here's the thing Lucy, what you believe right now is almost verbatim to those who die and fall into their graves. All of those pew people, for the last 2000 years believed that "it is finished," and look to a substitute to save them IN their sin. How are you different from that, tell me? What you fail to grasp is that the One True Gospel, along with the TRUE meaning and teaching about Grace, was TURNED and TWISTED to where it is no Gospel at all..."Jesus dying in your stead," with Grace becoming as a license to sin. You just won't admit it, but your concept and teaching is that he did it all for you at the cross and the vile, disgusting commands of Elohim that are found within the Law, are "kaput." That's your grace Lucy, just like the pew people's grace, in having the Law done away. You are just like those pew believers, drunk on your own delusion that you can say in your heart that "all is good," as you disregard the Law (Deu 29:19, Isa 24:5-6).

Who knows Lucy. The Spirit goes where it desires, so you may end up winning. Ken

[LucySmith]

no Ken you are incorrect on all fronts...

Hi Lucy, I have a sneaky suspicion that Eliyahu will understand Grace before you do. I could be wrong, but when and IF he does, you will be under him, and I'm not sure you will like that.

Here's the thing Lucy, what you believe right now is almost verbatim to those who die and fall into their graves. All of those pew people, for the last 2000 years believed that "it is finished," and look to a substitute to save them IN their sin. How are you different from that, tell me? What you fail to grasp is that the One True Gospel, along with the TRUE meaning and teaching about Grace, was TURNED and TWISTED to where it is no Gospel at all..."Jesus dying in your stead," with Grace becoming as a license to sin. You just won't admit it, but your concept and teaching is that he did it all for you at the cross and the vile, disgusting commands of Elohim that are found within the Law, are "kaput." That's your grace Lucy, just like the pew people's grace, in having the Law done away. You are just like those pew believers, drunk on your own delusion that you can say in your heart that "all is good," as you disregard the Law (Deu 29:19, Isa 24:5-6).

Who knows Lucy. The Spirit goes where it desires, so you may end up winning. Ken

the Methodist church I grew up in was really a non event.... they had no born again, true baptism or holy spirit doctrine ... that I heard on a sunday

so I am a non biblical indoctrinated person as I left 50+ yrs ago and did a 1yr stint in the pentecostal false tongue groupies... so as for my ''church learning'' and indoctrination is really zilch
as for your indoctrinated concept. I would not believe in the false concept of Armstrongism it is was the last thing on earth I would do - nor a Pauline version of ''my gospel'' he '' invented'' as he went along.
Is like revisiting BENNY HINN TELECAST

Isnt it so strange YESHUA NEVER mentioned original sin nor grace.... INFACT YESHUA LEFT OUT SO MUCH ''''HOLY pauline beliefs''''' [ STUFF] it is a wonder why He came in the 1st place.`
it is FINISHED WAS NOT IT IS FINISHED according to saul/paul the 13th ''self confessed apostle''

however
My responsibility is to get up on my cross

IAH are totally deceived ''clergy'' preaching murder and death to anyone who will listen and I pity another listening to your weird belief and real crazy ugly stuff you think is the truth

your whole credibility is stuffed. by 1 stupid act...
WHY HAVE YOU WRITTEN OUT YOUR WILL.... see a hypocrite... and it goes with false beliefs

as for Elijah he dipped out when his 2nd marriage CAME into question, as an NT adulterer....because he failed to discern Yeshua views on marriage.. I doubt if u see him again and his poverty stricken life.
a bible quoter but not a verse liver.

[ImAHebrew]

Lucy, what I meant is that you and the pew people believe the same.

the Methodist church I grew up in was really a non event.... they had no born again, true baptism or holy spirit doctrine ... that I heard on a sunday

so I am a non biblical indoctrinated person as I left 50+ yrs ago and did a 1yr stint in the pentecostal false tongue groupies... so as for my ''church learning'' and indoctrination is really zilch
as for your indoctrinated concept. I would not believe in the false concept of Armstrongism it is was the last thing on earth I would do - nor a Pauline version of ''my gospel'' he '' invented'' as he went along.
Is like revisiting BENNY HINN TELECAST

Isnt it so strange YESHUA NEVER mentioned original sin nor grace.... INFACT YESHUA LEFT OUT SO MUCH ''''HOLY pauline beliefs''''' [ STUFF] it is a wonder why He came in the 1st place.`
it is FINISHED WAS NOT IT IS FINISHED according to saul/paul the 13th ''self confessed apostle''

however
My responsibility is to get up on my cross

IAH are totally deceived ''clergy'' preaching murder and death to anyone who will listen and I pity another listening to your weird belief and real crazy ugly stuff you think is the truth

your whole credibility is stuffed. by 1 stupid act...
WHY HAVE YOU WRITTEN OUT YOUR WILL.... see a hypocrite... and it goes with false beliefs

as for Elijah he dipped out when his 2nd marriage CAME into question, as an NT adulterer....because he failed to discern Yeshua views on marriage.. I doubt if u see him again and his poverty stricken life.
a bible quoter but not a verse liver.

Hi Lucy, what I meant is that you and the pew people believe exactly the same when it comes to doing away with the Law. Do you not believe that, as THEY do? Why would you deny this? Ken

[LucySmith]

no ken

i dont believe like the pew people as they die IN SIN - as you will as you cannot discern the truth correctly
what?

the dying priesthood as a system of belief [to the jews] CEASED in 70ad,
every priest along with every scroll was destroyed...nothing was left. BUT you cannot understand this fact and peddle the judaizers concept of mixtures FROM YOUR ARMSTRONG DAYS....so be it

I cannot be bothered talking any more Ken... either you ''see'' this or you don't = its your life.

[ImAHebrew]

Lucy, you should be bothered.

i dont believe like the pew people as they die IN SIN - as you will as you cannot discern the truth correctly
what?

the dying priesthood as a system of belief [to the jews] CEASED in 70ad,
every priest along with every scroll was destroyed...nothing was left. BUT you cannot understand this fact and peddle the judaizers concept of mixtures FROM YOUR ARMSTRONG DAYS....so be it

I cannot be bothered talking any more Ken... either you ''see'' this or you don't = its your life.

Hi Lucy, and you, as the pew believers, will also die in your sin IF you do not discern the Truth that Yeshua did not DO AWAY with the Law of Moses, as they and YOU believe. You are connected to them with YOUR teaching and belief that Yeshua has done away with the Law. And NOTHING you try to say will change that fact, even though you do have some other teachings correct, your marriage with their DOCTRINE of doing away with the Law, makes you ONE with them.

But take heart, Eliyahu may start to understand the true Grace of Elohim, and then maybe, just maybe, you will too. Ken

[LucySmith]

you know why i will never believe your version of the gospel

Hi Lucy, and you, as the pew believers, will also die in your sin IF you do not discern the Truth that Yeshua did not DO AWAY with the Law of Moses, as they and YOU believe. You are connected to them with YOUR teaching and belief that Yeshua has done away with the Law. And NOTHING you try to say will change that fact, even though you do have some other teachings correct, your marriage with their DOCTRINE of doing away with the Law, makes you ONE with them.

But take heart, Eliyahu may start to understand the true Grace of Elohim, and then maybe, just maybe, you will too. Ken

honestly the fruits are rotten''
from the life testimony presented on LA of destruction to your children/ family and other under your ''assemblies authority''
your pages in your life testimony is one of terrible harm and ruin to others............................
the whole family seems under a curse.
bitterness strife and chaos rules over your whole family................... religious insanity

bye ken may you repent from the disaster you call your life.
you remind me of some weird offshoot of amish or Mormon nit wits

bye Kenny doll I wish u well

[ImAHebrew]

Lucy, like I said before...let's compare our children's accomplishments.

honestly the fruits are rotten''
from the life testimony presented on LA of destruction to your children/ family and other under your ''assemblies authority''
your pages in your life testimony is one of terrible harm and ruin to others............................
the whole family seems under a curse.
bitterness strife and chaos rules over your whole family................... religious insanity

bye ken may you repent from the disaster you call your life.
you remind me of some weird offshoot of amish or Mormon nit wits

bye Kenny doll I wish u well

Hi Lucy, why do you think my children/family is ruined. My children's accomplishments would astound you. Ken

[LucySmith]

the terrible ignorance of most of humanity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBhbMALbIgo

interesting info
saying
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[Eliyah]

the Methodist church I grew up in was really a non event.... they had no born again, true baptism or holy spirit doctrine ... that I heard on a sunday

so I am a non biblical indoctrinated person as I left 50+ yrs ago and did a 1yr stint in the pentecostal false tongue groupies... so as for my ''church learning'' and indoctrination is really zilch
as for your indoctrinated concept. I would not believe in the false concept of Armstrongism it is was the last thing on earth I would do - nor a Pauline version of ''my gospel'' he '' invented'' as he went along.
Is like revisiting BENNY HINN TELECAST

Isnt it so strange YESHUA NEVER mentioned original sin nor grace.... INFACT YESHUA LEFT OUT SO MUCH ''''HOLY pauline beliefs''''' [ STUFF] it is a wonder why He came in the 1st place.`
it is FINISHED WAS NOT IT IS FINISHED according to saul/paul the 13th ''self confessed apostle''

however
My responsibility is to get up on my cross

IAH are totally deceived ''clergy'' preaching murder and death to anyone who will listen and I pity another listening to your weird belief and real crazy ugly stuff you think is the truth

your whole credibility is stuffed. by 1 stupid act...
WHY HAVE YOU WRITTEN OUT YOUR WILL.... see a hypocrite... and it goes with false beliefs

as for Elijah he dipped out when his 2nd marriage CAME into question, as an NT adulterer....because he failed to discern Yeshua views on marriage.. I doubt if u see him again and his poverty stricken life.
a bible quoter but not a verse liver.

Lucyfer,

your whole credibility is stuffed. by 1 stupid act...
WHY HAVE YOU WRITTEN OUT YOUR WILL....

Well Lucyfer, your going to die the first death too Matt.10:28; Hebrews 9:27, and your strong delusion will not prevent it either.

as for Elijah he dipped out when his 2nd marriage CAME into question, as an NT adulterer....because he failed to discern Yeshua views on marriage.. I doubt if u see him again and his poverty stricken life.
a bible quoter but not a verse liver

I see that Lucyfer is still lying and falsely accusing as usual, and my marriage is NOT in question, I have not violated any NT scriptures, and I'm not an adulterer either as you falsely accuse.

Also, I'm not a self professed whore or prostitute Jezzie as you have admitted, in your own words either.

[ImAHebrew]

It's difficult.

Shalom Everyone, it is difficult to determine who of the two (Eliyahu or Lucy) will "see" Grace first. I thought for sure that Eliyahu would, but now I am leaning a little more toward Lucy. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

[Eliyah]

Shalom Everyone, it is difficult to determine who of the two (Eliyahu or Lucy) will "see" Grace first. I thought for sure that Eliyahu would, but now I am leaning a little more toward Lucy. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

Ken,

You and Spying seem to be pretending and fooling yourselves into thinking that Lucy is really converted, when BOTH of you have let her get away with LYING and false acusations, and not correcting her 1 Tim.4:2; 1 Tim.5:20 , and Spying has even upheld her lying and false accusations.