Jesus Christ came and Jesus Christ is gone...

[Stranger]

Jesus Christ came and Jesus Christ is gone. He turned out to be a total failure as far as being the consolation of Israel.

Isaiah 25:9 * In that day they will say, "Surely this is our Elohim; we trusted in him, and he saved us. This is Yahweh, we trusted in him (i.e. not in a human sacrifice); let us rejoice and be glad in his salvation."

Isaiah 40:1 * Comfort, comfort my people, says your Elohim.
2 Speak tenderly to Jerusalem, and proclaim to her that her hard service has been completed, that her sin has been paid for, that she has received from Yahweh's hand double for all her sins.
3 A voice of one calling: "In the desert prepare the way for Yahweh; make straight in the wilderness a highway for our Elohim.
4 Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the rough ground shall become level, the rugged places a plain.
5 And the glory of Yahweh will be revealed, and all mankind together will see it. For the mouth of Yahweh has spoken."

Simeon and Anna thought that they saw the fulfillment of this prophecy…

Luke 2:25, 30, 38 (NIV) Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him.
30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
38 Coming up to them at that very moment, she (i.e. Anna) gave thanks to God and spoke about the child to all who were looking forward to the redemption of Jerusalem.

After the passing away of Jesus Christ the apostles went on their way disappointed about their pseudo-messiah…

Luke 24:21 (NIV) but we had hoped that he was the one who was going to redeem Israel…

After the alleged resurrection and before the ascension of Jesus Christ the apostles still asked the same question…

Acts 1:6 (NIV) So when they met together, they asked him, "Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?"

After the alleged ascension of Jesus Christ Saint Peter goes out of the way to say that it will happen... Christianity is still making the rules as they play the game. Jesus Christ didn’t deliver!

Acts 3:21 (NIV) He must remain in heaven until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.
22 For Moses said, `Yahweh your Elohim will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you must listen to everything he tells you.

Jesus Christ came cursing and damning the Jews. He told them that he is going to have their heads chopped off and cut to pieces by the Christians and after that he will send them to Dante’s Inferno to be tormented forever for his sheer enjoyment and that of his Christian followers. Jesus Christ was not a prophet like Moshe, but he was all the opposite an anti-Moshe, if you will. Moshe really identified himself with his people and wanted to be sacrificed for them, but Yahweh doesn’t go for anyone sacrificing himself for somebody else. So Jesus Christ is a phony as far as human sacrifice goes, too.

Exodus 32:30 * The next day Moses said to the people, "You have committed a great sin. But now I will go up to Yahweh; perhaps I can make atonement for your sin."
31 So Moses went back to Yahweh and said, "Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold.
32 But now, please forgive their sin--but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written (i.e. Jesus Christ never ever prayed like that for the Jews because he was not like Moshe)."
33 Yahweh replied to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book.
34 Now go, lead the people to the place I spoke of, and my angel will go before you. However, when the time comes for me to punish, I will punish them for their sin."

Jesus Christ is not at all like Moshe. He set up Judas to betray him so he could have himself killed. Jesus Christ said in his own defense that his kingdom was not of this world. He whined to his enemies the Romans that his disciples failed to prevent his arrest by the JEWS. He suddenly forgot that one of his own servants risked his life on a suicidal attack against one of the heavily armed Herodian soldiers who came to arrest Jesus Christ. He forgot that a few hours earlier he had to fix a right ear of one of them. The servants and faithful followers of Jesus Christ really did fight against the soldiers to prevent his arrest and now he betrays them whining to the Romans, “my servants WOULD fight to prevent my arrest by the JEWS, but NOW my kingdom is from another place.” Wow… what a queer master! Was Jesus Christ trying to get off the hook like that? There was a fight that Jesus Christ is denying here. He actually stopped the fight otherwise there would be a whole bunch of right ears laying around in the garden.

John 18:36 (NIV) Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants WOULD fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But NOW my kingdom is from another place."

In essence Jesus Christ didn’t deliver any consolation to Israel because his kingdom was not of this world! He declared himself to be an alien to this world, not the fulfillment of any prophecy about bringing salvation to Israel in this world. That is why even John the Baptist was asking, “Hey, is that you or should we wait for the real one to come?” Jesus Christ came back to him with a flaky answer to let him guess. John the Baptist probably lost his head trying to figger out Jesus Christ because the messengers that he sent were not one bit believers or followers of Jesus Christ, otherwise they would have advised John on the spot.

Luke 7:18 (NIV) John's disciples told him about all these things. Calling two of them,
19 he sent them to the Lord to ask, "Are you the one who was to come, or should we expect someone else?"
20 When the men came to Jesus, they said, "John the Baptist sent us to you to ask, `Are you the one who was to come, or should we expect someone else?'"

Going back to the original prophecy in the Tanak that was very much in John’s mind we see that it didn’t happen yet because hardly anybody saw anything. Even to this day, most of them never ever saw any salvation delivered to Israel, but a lot of death and destruction to the Jews.

Isaiah 40:5 * And the glory of Yahweh will be revealed, and all mankind together will see it (i.e. At the real coming of the messiah there is no need to send any messenger inquiring about it to anybody like John the Baptist was doing) . For the mouth of Yahweh has spoken."

Jesus Christ ended his career betraying his own Apostles as yellow bellies, making the Jews responsible for all the murders in the world, and damning them to a fire and sulfur torment forever for his enjoyment and that of the Christians. The real messiah will accomplish what Yahweh need to do to deliver his salvation. Obviously there is a need of a human being to lead in the fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecy. Jesus Christ does not qualify one bit. He found all the descendants of Israel guilty and damned them to Hell on sight!!!

Isaiah 45:20-25 * "Gather together and come; assemble, you fugitives from the nations. Ignorant are those who carry about idols of wood (i.e. the Christian cross) who pray to elohim (i.e. gods) that cannot save.
21 Declare what is to be, present it -- let them take counsel together. Who foretold this long ago, who declared it from the distant past? Was it not I, Yahweh? And there is no Elohim apart from me, a righteous El and a Savior; there is none but me.
22 "Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am Elohim, and there is no other.
23 By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear.
24 They will say of me, `In Yahweh alone are righteousness and strength (i.e. not in Jesus Christ) .'" All who have raged against him will come to him and be put to shame.
25 But in Yahweh (i.e. not in Jesus Christ) all the descendants of Israel will be found righteous and will exult.

[OldShepherd]

Where is He, Lou?

You say that Jesus was a failure and that He is gone. Where is He Lou? Habeas Corpus, Lou. Present the body. If Y'shua was not who he claimed to be then there should be a body somewhere. So Lou all you have to do to convince me is show me the body.

Surely all those murderous Pharisees and Sadducees you pattern yourself after could bribe or torure the location of one body out of Jesus' followers. So put up or shut up.

[Stranger]

By the time the NT was written the Jews were no longer interested in Jesus Christ so it was easy to say that he resurrected. Looking at the record you can choose to believe any resurrection version that you like. In Jerusalem nobody knew that Jesus Christ resurrected only in the mind of Paul.

Acts 25:19 (KJV) But had certain questions against him of their own superstition, and of one Jesus, which was dead, whom Paul affirmed to be alive.

Paul invented Christianity and to make it interesting he had to say that Jesus Christ resurrected...

[OldShepherd]

Originally posted by Stranger
By the time the NT was written the Jews were no longer interested in Jesus Christ so it was easy to say that he resurrected. Looking at the record you can choose to believe any resurrection version that you like. In Jerusalem nobody knew that Jesus Christ resurrected only in the mind of Paul.

Paul invented Christianity and to make it interesting he had to say that Jesus Christ resurrected...

Lies, lies, and more lies. Lou you are so mentally unstable that you cannot make a post without filling it with lies.

You claim to be a Jew but you are just a lying piece of doggy doo, you don't even know the writings or history of the religion, you claim to belong to. If the Jews were no longer interested in Jesus then why is the Talmud filled with blasphemous, contradictory stories about his birth, life, and death? For example,

"1) Yeshu (Jesus) and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

2) Yeshu (Jesus) was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah
47a).

3) Yeshu (Jesus) learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

Gittin 57a. Says Yeshu (Jesus) is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."

"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an acronym for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used as an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such as Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser Jesus" and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.

"In Jerusalem nobody knew that Jesus Christ resurrected only in the mind of Paul."

Is that a fact? You may remember links to the Jerusalem Christian Review which I posted numerous times over at the other forum, and you blew off as fake, which document burial artifacts dating to 41 AD, in Jerusalem, with inscriptions in Hebrew and Greek, "To Y'shua/Iesous who is risen/ascended."

http://christian.edu/

Also there are the following and other scriptures you need to explain.

John 20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

Matt 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.

Mark 16:6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
7 But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.

Luke 24:5 And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead? {the living: or, him that liveth}
6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,

John 20:3 And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him.
14 And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus.

One final point Lou, which you ignored on another thread. You are a dog puke liar and will remain one as long as you are married to a "strange, i.e. Christian, wife"

Ezra 10:18 And among the sons of the priests there were found that had taken strange wives: namely, of the sons of Jeshua the son of Jozadak, and his brethren; Maaseiah, and Eliezer, and Jarib, and Gedaliah.
19 And they gave their hands that they would put away their wives; and being guilty, they offered a ram of the flock for their trespass.

Pr 2:16 To deliver thee from the strange woman, even from the stranger which flattereth with her words;

Pr 5:20 And why wilt thou, my son, be ravished with a strange woman, and embrace the bosom of a stranger?

Lou you claim to be Torah observant, lets see you observe Torah here. And since you can't or won't, then you have absolutely no business talking Torah to anyone. So put up or shut up you lying piece of dog puke.

Prov 26:11 As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool returns to his folly.

2 Pet 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

[Stranger]

"In Jerusalem nobody knew that Jesus Christ resurrected only in the mind of Paul."

Is that a fact? You may remember links to the Jerusalem Christian Review which I posted numerous times over at the other forum, and you blew off as fake, which document burial artifacts dating to 41 AD, in Jerusalem, with inscriptions in Hebrew and Greek, "To Y'shua/Iesous who is risen/ascended."

After seeing so much dishonesty in Christianity I am not one bit surprised that they are digging up some inscriptions to favor the Christian faith. Saint Helen found the cross of Jesus Christ in the early 300 CE. Dating of early Christian era objects can be conveniently set to match any scenario. You are not addressing the NT documentation that I am presenting in my posts.

Let me summarize what I presented here.

It is written that Jesus Christ came to his own (i.e. the Jews) and his own did not receive him. (John 1:12) Then the whole panorama changes. Forget about Jesus Christ coming to his own (i.e. the Jews) now he comes to the world instead (John 3:16) in a way that is totally in reverse of the Tanakh guideline for the messiah of Israel.

Jesus Christ surprises his disciples, too. Peter takes him aside to rebuke him and he turns around and calls him “Satan” in front of everybody. Peter followed the recommendation of Jesus Christ not to go public when a brother is in error, but Jesus Christ bit him like a snake in front of everybody!

Mark 8:31 (NIV) He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again.
32 He spoke plainly about this, and Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him.
33 But when Jesus turned and looked at his disciples, he rebuked Peter. "Get behind me, Satan!" he said. "You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

Neither Peter a.k.a. "Satan" nor any of the other apostles believed that it is necessary for the messiah of Israel to die and much less to resurrect from the dead on the third day because there is nothing written about that in the Tanakh. Except for some obscure passage in the Tanakh that can be interpreted in dozens of ways there is nothing about a need for the messiah,

1) ...to be born out of an adulterous sexual intercourse of a Heavenly being (i.e. the holey spook) and a “beautiful daughter of men” like in the days of Noah;
2) …to die for anybody’s sin contrary to HaTorah;
3) …to resurrect on the third day;
4) …to go to Heaven and come back another day;
5) …to reject Israel and especially Jerusalem as the prime object of his joy

Psalm 137:4 * How can we sing the songs of Yahweh while in a foreign land?
5 If I forget you, O Jerusalem, may my right hand forget [its skill].
6 May my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth if I do not remember you, if I do not consider Jerusalem my highest joy.
7 Remember, O Yahweh, what the Edomites did on the day Jerusalem fell. "Tear it down," they cried, "tear it down to its foundations!"
8 O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us--

Jesus Christ was very sarcastic pointing out the destruction of Jerusalem to the extent that no stone would be standing on another stone that everything would be destroyed. On his way to Golgotha, Jesus Christ was full of cynicism in his last prophetic sermon to the daughters of Jerusalem scorning them about their doom. After the destruction of Jerusalem he is alleged to have dictated letters from Heaven to people in some Heathen cities in total indifference for what was happening to Jerusalem. In the most absolute sarcasm the spook of Jesus Christ is taunting the fate of Jerusalem and the Jews saying that some Christians in the City of Smyrna, (Asia Minor, Turkey) will be put in jail for 10 days to be tested by Satan. At the same time millions of Jews had their homes in Jerusalem destroyed and those who didn’t die in the process were sold as slaves in a market that had no demand for slaves so most of the Jews died on long marches to nowhere --Josephus. Many of those Jews were probably followers of Jesus Christ, too. Please be human, Old Shep. Even if there were some Jews who fled the Roman onslaught on Jerusalem, I am sure that they suffered lose, and a word of comfort would have been most appropriate for any wanabee messiah.

You didn’t address my concern that Jesus Christ is calling Peter, “Satan” in front of everybody because, “You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.” Although in the middle of the pseudo Passover Seder celebrated by Jesus Christ he told his apostles to get their coat and sell it to buy a weapon (i.e. the heck with HaTorah words about sanctifying the Passover celebration) Peter a.k.a. “Satan” already had a sword. It was Peter a.k.a. “Satan” who slashed the right ear that was inside the helmet of one of the Herodian soldiers. But Jesus Christ turns around and whines before Pontius that if his kingdom were of this world his servants would have prevented his arrest by the Jews, but NOW his kingdom is from somewhere else. Is it from the world and the Christians were supposed to fight for him? Apparently Jesus Christ is complaining to the destroyers of Jerusalem that he has nothing to do with any kingdom in this world. If this is the case then the messiah of Israel is DEFINITELY NOT Jesus Christ because Israel is located in this world.

WOWWW… WHAT A RELIEF!!!

John 18:36 (NIV) Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world (i.e. “he came to his own and his own receive him not”). If it were, my servants WOULD fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But NOW my kingdom is from another place."

No wonder Jesus Christ was so reluctant to tell Pontius that he was the King of the Jews. The best he could do is to say, “if you say so,” or so. He is obviously a fair weather king. If Jesus Christ dares to show up again the Jews would probably stone him to death for treason! He said that his kingdom was not of this world, but he also said that at his second coming the Christians will chop the heads and cut to pieces all the Jews that didn’t want him to rule over them IN THIS WORLD!!! And for good measure he is going to have them roasting in sulfuric fire for his enjoyment forever. Jesus Christ must love to watch the Jews weeping and gnashing their teeth "in the outer darkness" or is it in a fiery furnace?… The "final solution" is so sleazy! But he said that his kingdom was not of this world…

Hey, wait a minute!... If Jesus Christ kingdom is not of this world, how can he possibly judge anyone in this world? It is out of his jurisdiction to do so! Obviously the NT writers had no jurisprudence sense at all. No wonder they trashed HaTorah!

Matthew 8:12 (KJV) But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 13:50 (NIV) and throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

The more I study Jesus Christ the more convinced I am that there no need to read the Talmud to find out anything about him. The New Testament has plenty of information on his disqualification of being anything worthwhile to the hope of Israel. All the stories written about Jesus Christ were written many years after the facts and when the Jews lost all interest in Him. That was probably the time when the stories that you quote of the Talmud were written as a natural reaction to Christianity.

Old Shep, bear in mind that when Paul came to Jerusalem the Roman authorities said that he was the only one saying that Jesus Christ was alive. If anybody else believed the same way I am sure that a reference to that effect would have been made into the official documents of the Roman government in Jerusalem. It would have been a tragic mistake for any Roman official not to report faithfully that there was any number of Jews in Jerusalem believing that Jesus Christ was alive, not only Paul.

Hey, Old Shep, it was Jesus Christ who said that, “out of the fullness of the heart the mouth speaketh.” Your heart must be full of “dog puke”… just a thought.

[OldShepherd]

Lou,

After seeing so much dishonesty in Christianity I am not one bit surprised that they are digging up some inscriptions to favor the Christian faith. Saint Helen found the cross of Jesus Christ in the early 300 CE. Dating of early Christian era objects can be conveniently set to match any scenario. You are not addressing the NT documentation that I am presenting in my posts.

Lou, when you get a degree in Archaeology/Anthropology/History, and an advanced degree, and several years of field experience and then go to the locations listed and actually examine the sites and artifacts, then you might have something to say. Until then you are just flatulation blowing in the wind. I certainly don't see any anti-Christian pukes like you dismissing archaeological evidence such as the Tell-El Amarna tablets, Lachish letters, Shalmaneser's obelisk, Moabite stone, DSS, Khorsabad King Sargon letters, Sennacherib's stele, and other historical finds which affirm the O.T.. But when the evidence proves you wrong then from the comfort of your home, with no training experience or even viewing the materials, "It's fake!"

Listen dog puke don't even talk to me about not responding to you. Every thread I have posted on here has many, many points which you have refused to address although I have pointedly reminded you several times. First, go back and respond to me with the same amount of research and documentation that I have to you. And I think you will find that virtually everything you have posted here has been responded to. And true to your lying, cowardly nature you have ignored it.

[Stranger]

OK, Old Shep, you won!

Listen dog puke don't even talk to me about not responding to you. Every thread I have posted on here has many, many points which you have refused to address although I have pointedly reminded you several times. First, go back and respond to me with the same amount of research and documentation that I have to you. And I think you will find that virtually everything you have posted here has been responded to. And true to your lying, cowardly nature you have ignored it.

I think that you are missing the point and a tremendous opportunity to defend Christianity. Please fill free to rally all the help that you need. Here is the deal. I concede to all your arguments that you made in the past. You left me speechless. I lost. You won. You beat me. I am dead meat. Now, let’s get this new post clear about Jesus Christ legality to judge anyone outside his kingdom. I am using the most sacred scripture of the Christians, the New Testament, to document myself.

You evidently sift through a lot of manure searching for any little snippet of dog puke that trashes the Bible in general and Christianity in particular but when I link to several sites, many written by accomplished scholars, without even reading them, you blow them off as "white wash" and "cover up." Fine, you keep on digging around in the garbage dumps and cesspools, I hope you find some truth in your pagan and atheist writings.

You are forcing me to go outside the New Testament for my sources of information. I went. I checked with the early church fathers and it really turned my stomach over. Now I stick to the “christianus solitas scriptum novum testamentum.” It is just as bad, but at least you won’t hit me so hard for using it. I hope that you will admit that the subject of my concern is valid. At least do it for the sake of all the Christians who are not as enlightened as you are in the Christian mysteries. They must be upholding you in prayer, I suppose. I remember that at the Eliyah forum they went on a hunger prayer meeting to get me out of the way. Their prayer was answered. I was banned from that forum.

[OldShepherd]

Lou,

"Here is the deal. I concede to all your arguments that you made in the past. You left me speechless. I lost. You won. You beat me. I am dead meat. Now, let’s get this new post clear about Jesus Christ legality to judge anyone outside his kingdom."

No way, Jose'! Been there, done that, and got the T-shirt. This ain't no game. This is nothing more than you have always done. Beside Jesus Christ's legality to judge is one of the points you are conceding. I have already answered you in other threads on this forum.

Basically you are a liar and a coward. You make accusation after accusation, you misquote virtually every scripture, you quote, and other resources, especially the ECF. And when you are caught and proven wrong you blow it off and go on to another pereh accusation and the whole thing starts again.

"I remember that at the Eliyah forum they went on a hunger prayer meeting to get me out of the way. Their prayer was answered. I was banned from that forum."

You are a liar and this is more of your boasting clearly showing your huge ego problems which got you fired as a pastor! You trying to convince yourself that your Biblical knowledge is so vast that hordes of Christians have to pray and fast because they are just so overwhelmed by your knowledge. You make me want to puke. Your knowledge doesn't even qualify as half vast. Nobody fasted and prayed to get rid of you. I know who all of your opponents were, I was one of the main ones, and you and nothing you could ever say even came close to causing them to do that.

You were banned after repeated warnings for posting in violation of the forum rules, i.e. anti-N.T., Anti-Paul, and anti-Yeshua. You went to QB and returned several months later. You again violated the forum rules and again you were warned repeatedly and finally banned again. After you were banned you posted several times on the true Faith forum as AchLou and finally Eliyah even banned you from there, after answering all you posts. I was there Lou I know what happened.

I am not missing the chance to defend Christianity. I have responded to all your posts for several weeks. You have conssistently refused to repond to mine. You are the one that cannot defend your dog puke. Just as you have tried to do here, you ignore everything that has been said and go on to another mindless, lying attack.

[Stranger]

Old Shep, the stuff that I wrote is new!

I am proving that the NT was written by people who can't say, "Been there, done that, and got the T-shirt." The NT was written by people who invented Christianity many years after the facts and they based it on hearsay evidence. They can't agree on how anything happened. Jesus Christ turned out to be a sham. He doesn't work any better than Budha, Mohammed, the Virgin Mary, all the Saints, and what have you. Be serious, Old Shep! By the way, at Eliyah's forum I was still giving Jesus Christ the benefit of the doubt, but the evidence against him is so overwhelming that I am a totally new person in mind, body and spirit. I never felt so good in my life!

[Stranger]

I'm sorry, again...

You have conssistently refused to repond to mine. You are the one that cannot defend your dog puke.

I think that I know what you mean, Old Shep. It is true that I avoided replying most of your posts. I did it out of respect for your views. I regret I did that. Please point out any of your posts that you really wish me to comment and I will. I promise... and again, I am sorry I did that.

Hey, you may want to congratulate me, I turned into a Senior Member, today! I feel honored!