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    a list of this laws/commands OF the whOle law of Moses to the jews only
    613 of them
    https://www.therefinersfire.org/orig...mmandments.htm

    of interest
    how Were the people to keep all these laws/COMMANDS when most all COULD NOT READ OF WRITE
    is this an interesting ?
    DID THEY MEMORISE THEM?

    also we are told ALL THESE LAWS HAD TO BE KEPT - ALL IN TOTAL- because if you break one you are quilty of breaking them as a whole item.


    now Yeshua we are Told came to fulfil this and did.
    yet He himself changed some laws and broke some AND SAID HE DIDNT WRITE OTHERS when calling them ''your laws''.
    again a little hard to understand this whole system of pick and choosing!!!


    H0W DO YOU FEEL about keeping these 613 laws yourself?
    do you know them one by one?
    do you select the ones you think suitable to your best interests
    HOW CAN YOU AVOID BEING A LAW BREAKER yourself when = none can keep these laws?

    do you think something is wrong here?
    if you ARE A LAW KEEPER YOURSELF why not practice stoning the malefactors?

    LOTS OF QUESTIONS
    also WHY DID THESE PEOPLE NEED A SAVIOUR if the law of Moses was the end all?
    also WHY WERE THESE SAME LAW KEEPERS, CALLED CAPTIVES?

    CAN IT BE EXPLAINED?

    Before you place yourself under this ''Hebrews religious law Movement'' or'' SDA movement'' MAKE SURE U CAN KEEP THE 613 LAWS AND COMMANDS first~~~~~~ its essential~~~~~

    If you feel you are unable to keep 613 commands that cannot be divided into the easy ONES you like

    SOLUTION IS
    - COME TO THE CROSS OF THE SAVIOUR AND LEARN OF HIM.... for He is meek and lowely of heart and you can find rest for your soul..

    DO YOU FEEL YOU NEED TO TALK TO YESHUA - rather than men who kinda make up religious things that just don't sit right~~~~

    CAPTIVE
    OR
    FREED

    you choice.....
    the abusers will come out and abuse you as a law breaker - how do you feel about this?

    here is what James says [ 1st recorded written book of the NT]
    For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.
    how do you feel = 613 commands HAS TO BE KEEP - not the few you think are ok... aLL 613
    can you do it~~~~~

    that's your decission~~~~AND ofcourse take no notice of those who call you lawless and other names...yet FAIL TO KEEP THE 613 LAWS THEMSELVES

    its good to have a rethink on your beliefs?

  • #2
    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    a list of this laws/commands OF the whOle law of Moses to the jews only
    613 of them
    https://www.therefinersfire.org/orig...mmandments.htm

    of interest
    how Were the people to keep all these laws/COMMANDS when most all COULD NOT READ OF WRITE
    is this an interesting ?
    DID THEY MEMORISE THEM?

    also we are told ALL THESE LAWS HAD TO BE KEPT - ALL IN TOTAL- because if you break one you are quilty of breaking them as a whole item.


    now Yeshua we are Told came to fulfil this and did.
    yet He himself changed some laws and broke some AND SAID HE DIDNT WRITE OTHERS when calling them ''your laws''.
    again a little hard to understand this whole system of pick and choosing!!!


    H0W DO YOU FEEL about keeping these 613 laws yourself?
    do you know them one by one?
    do you select the ones you think suitable to your best interests
    HOW CAN YOU AVOID BEING A LAW BREAKER yourself when = none can keep these laws?

    do you think something is wrong here?
    if you ARE A LAW KEEPER YOURSELF why not practice stoning the malefactors?

    LOTS OF QUESTIONS
    also WHY DID THESE PEOPLE NEED A SAVIOUR if the law of Moses was the end all?
    also WHY WERE THESE SAME LAW KEEPERS, CALLED CAPTIVES?

    CAN IT BE EXPLAINED?

    before you place yourself under this ''Hebrews religious Movement'' or SDA movement MAKE SURE U CAN KEEP THE 613 LAWS AND COMMANDS first~~~~~~ its essential~~~~~

    if you feel you are unable to keep 613 commands that cannot be divided into the easy nes you like - COME TO THE CROSS OF THE SAVIOUR AND LEARN OF HIM.... for he is meek and lowely of heart and you can find rest for your soul..

    DO YOU FEEL YOU NEED TO TALK TO YESHUA - rather than men who kinda make up religious things that just don't sit right~~~~

    CAPTIVE
    OR
    FREED

    you choice.....
    the abusers will come out and abuse you as a law breaker - how do you feel about this?

    here is what James says [ 1st recorded written book of the NT]

    how do you feel = 613 commands HAS TO BE KEEP - not the few you think are ok... aLL 613
    can you do it~~~~~

    that's your decission~~~~
    Lucy,

    Messiah said:

    Number 1. Command:Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    This is the first and great commandment.

    And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

    On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
    Matthew 22:37-40.

    Lucy, I thought that YOU said, that YOU obeyed these 2 royal commands?

    If YOU really do, then why are YOU teaching against them?

    Oh she really obeys these 2 royal commands huh?

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    • #3
      Lucy,

      keeping 613 laws of Moses to the jews only...can you/yes no?
      Lucy: Where did Messiah and the 12 apostles say, the 613 laws were to the Jews only, as YOU say, in your black words??

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      • #4
        Lucy, have YOU already forgotten...

        Lucy, have YOU already forgotten that YOU have already created this very thread BEFORE??

        Your Alshiemers problem is getting the best of you huh?

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        • #5
          now according to some ALL the laws have to be kept

          613 laws in total...
          an IMPOSSIBLE TASK to keep ofcourse~~~~~~~

          YESHUA we are told came to fulfill this command - and He did, WE ARE TOLD
          yet
          ~He broke some
          ~He altered some and
          ~ and He said ''your laws'' meaning they were not His in the 1st place

          is there an explanation - for such Duality of choices?
          one choice = DID
          one choice =DIDNT

          how can 2 choices be correct~~~~~~


          HOWEVER THE CHOICE REMAINS
          captive
          or
          free man!!!!

          I WISH TO POINT out TO YOU = THE TOTAL DUALITY OF THE BIBLE = 2 CHOICES = MAKING ONLY 1 CORRECT-which 1

          WHAT SHALL YE CHOOSE?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
            613 laws in total...
            an IMPOSSIBLE TASK to keep ofcourse~~~~~~~

            YESHUA we are told came to fulfi this commandal - and He did, WE ARE TOLD
            yet
            ~He broke some
            ~He altered some and
            ~ and He said ''your laws'' meaning they were not His in the 1st place

            is there an explanation - for such Duality of choices?
            one choice = DID
            one choice =DIDNT

            how can 2 choices be correct~~~~~~


            HOWEVER THE CHOICE REMAINS
            captive
            or
            free man!!!!

            I WISH TO POINT YOU TO YOU = THE TOTAL DUALITY OF THE BIBLE = 2 CHOICES = MAKING ONLY 1 CORRECT

            WHAT SHALL YE CHOOSE?
            Lucy,

            Oh I know it's impossible for YOU, because Yah's Holy Spirit does NOT dwell in YOU, and therefore you remain in UNBELIEF.

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            • #7
              Lucy,

              The apostle John wrote:

              Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

              Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin/transgress the law; for his seed remains in him/her: and he/she cannot sin/transgress the law, because he/she is born of God.
              1 John 3:4, 9.

              Now Lucy, you do admit, that YOU cannot keep or obey the law, therefore, YOU Lucy are NOT born of GOD, and you have admitted this yourself.

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              • #8
                ofcourse we can find the answer to your confusing problem

                there is a simple explanation, A TRUTH SEEKER SHALL DISCOVER.

                For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.



                then we have the SOLUTION.....there we have it.....underststand it and learn of it.

                Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?

                For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.

                For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.

                For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood.

                And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life.

                For He testifies: "You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek"." Heb. 7:1-17




                did you see what happened?
                DID YOU SEE IT?
                DID IT HIT YOU BETWEEN THE EYES?
                NOW LEARN OF IT AND BE SAVED.

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                • #9
                  Lucy,

                  The apostle John wrote:

                  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

                  Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin/transgress the law; for his seed remains in him/her: and he/she cannot sin/transgress the law, because he/she is born of God.
                  1 John 3:4, 9.

                  Now Lucy, you do admit, that YOU cannot keep or obey the law, therefore, YOU Lucy are NOT born of GOD, and you have admitted this yourself.

                  Lucy, YOU are NOT born of Elohim.

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                  • #10
                    did you GET IT?????????

                    For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.

                    DID YOU SEE IT
                    ARE YOU STILL BLIND OR DO YOU SEE?????

                    THE DYING LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD UNDER THE LAW OF MOSES WAS CHANGED.
                    why?
                    A NEW PRIESTHOOD AROSE - AN UNDYING ONE = HENCE THE CHANGE OF THE LAW

                    do not partake of the 613 laws of Moses under the DYING PRIESTHOOD.....
                    WHY NOT?
                    the priesthood was changed and SO WAS THE LAW......

                    there you have it.
                    the UNDYING PRIESTHOOD is the only one to make intercession over its people
                    AN UNDYING INTERCESSOR, who forever makes intercession over His UNDYING people.

                    beware of the lawbinders to moses~~ they are deadly~~~~~

                    BTW
                    watch out for the ''''SMILLING assassin''

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                    • #11
                      Repeating Lucy?

                      Lucy,

                      Your repeating the same old thing over and over.

                      I can't help but smile..

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                        For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.

                        DID YOU SEE IT
                        ARE YOU STILL BLIND OR DO YOU SEE?????

                        THE DYING LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD UNDER THE LAW OF MOSES WAS CHANGED.
                        why?
                        A NEW PRIESTHOOD AROSE - AN UNDYING ONE = HENCE THE CHANGE OF THE LAW

                        do not partake of the 613 laws of Moses under the DYING PRIESTHOOD.....
                        WHY NOT?
                        the priesthood was changed and SO WAS THE LAW......

                        there you have it.
                        the UNDYING PRIESTHOOD is the only one to make intercession over its people
                        AN UNDYING INTERCESSOR, who forever makes intercession over His UNDYING people.

                        beware of the lawbinders to moses~~ they are deadly~~~~
                        Lucy,

                        Now the law is a spiritual law Matthew 5 and Romans 7:14, put in the heart and mind Jer.31:31-33; Hebrews 10:16.

                        This is how the letter of the law changed to the spirit of the law.

                        I can't help but laugh...again.

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                        • #13
                          Lucy,

                          You have now admitted, that YOU do NOT obey the spirit of the law, and your NOT born of Elohim as John said 1 John 3:9.

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                          • #14
                            so to conclude here are the real FACTS and it goes like this....

                            There was a change of law systems.
                            what happened?
                            There was law grounded in sacrifices that make men temporarily acceptable before God through the line of Levi, but that isn’t permanent.

                            We need a different system.

                            YESHUA is the priest of that different system.
                            YESHUA is the priest of that different system.
                            YESHUA is the priest of that different system.


                            He’s the new covenant, not the old covenant.
                            The old covenant is temporary.

                            It was just holding over until the new covenant came.

                            The blood of bulls and goats could never take away sins.
                            The blood of bulls and goats could never take away sins.
                            The blood of bulls and goats could never take away sins.


                            The writer of Hebrews says YESHUA brings in a new system.
                            He’s the only one, and
                            He makes perfect those who are sanctified and set aside under that particular system.

                            AMEN

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                            • #15
                              Lucy,

                              You have now admitted, that YOU do NOT obey the spirit of the law, and your NOT born of Elohim as John said 1 John 3:9.

                              And Lucy, your not a part of it either, UNTILL you repent of your sins or transgression of the law 1 John 3:4.

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