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  • elijah advances his swine gospel of death peddling yet THE GOSPEL SAYS...LIFE HERE

    JOHN 11 V 24 25 26

    his EVIL failed gospel peddling WILL NEVER WIN - satan will cease and be bound.
    This religious rubbish he preaches KILLS THE PEWS AND THE VICTIMS REMAIN CAPTIVES.
    proving the fruits of death remain.

    how strange when it was defeated at the cross and a finished work completed.

    please read about john 10 v 10 = abundant life here and now
    john 11 v 24 25 26= the power of the resurrection here and how for BELIEVERS.

    PROPHETIC WORD

    “ Captivity is that which keeps a person bound.

    Humanity has been bound in death since Adam, and until this day, has accepted it.

    Christians have been bound in religion and the fear of leaving it. = the religion of Elijah = see it and grieve
    The fear says that “they are leaving the Lord”, because they see the Lord reflected in their religious ordinances and they are therefore bound to them.

    These are like the symbols in the first two courts.

    Only by entering into the third realm can a Christian be delivered from this bondage.
    It is not a satanic fear, but a humanistic fear, which results from a “sensual” worship.=elijah religion for 2000yrs the swine method has been in vogue

    So without the ordinances, they have nothing to relate to in worship.
    This is how it was in Moses tabernacle, until David found the “song of the heart” and changed from a sensual worship to the humble heart and broken spirit, for it is with these sacrifices that the Lord is well pleased.

    The church has been caught in this “Moses” realm of relating to ordinances and a blindness has come upon them as to the third realm.
    ''get back under the law they scream'' = watch out for satan's dogs

    There will arise a company, who, as Jesus did, will show them the entrance into the Holy of Holies and ultimately the deliverance from the bondage of Adam, death and religious ordinance into the glorious liberty of the Sons of God.
    The entrance is through the “rent veil of the flesh”.

    The time is coming when Joshua and Caleb will rise up and take the church over the river Jordan, or through “the veil of the flesh”.
    They will break through the soul barrier, and it will be as if they are dreaming.

    This dream will be as real as the reality of the situation and they shall find the presence of Jesus for which they have thought on, prayed for, and seen only beyond literal death.
    Some in the church will choose to stay on the other side of Jordan, opting for what they are familiar with.
    The majority will follow the Joshua Company, and enter the “day of Jesus, His Kingdom Day” and be filled with His Glory.
    They shall enter the city of Jerusalem in all of its Glory built and prepared for them. They shall see the Feast of Tabernacles and come to its Glory”.



    Elijah you lose~~~~~~ like I always told you you would~~~~no truth seeker will ever listen to your confused gospel + law and other assorted mischievous traps you set for the sinning victims
    well old man your days are numbered and your tomb is waiting



    BTW I don't have to be ''kind and loving to you'' when you preach like the devil and twist the gospel verse to mean something else as ''your version'' = well who cares to listen to a sinner who dies from sin,.

    ALL GLORY TO JESUS
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
    THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
    - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
    - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
    This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

  • #2
    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    JOHN 11 V 24 25 26

    his EVIL failed gospel peddling WILL NEVER WIN - satan will cease and be bound.
    This religious rubbish he preaches KILLS THE PEWS AND THE VICTIMS REMAIN CAPTIVES.
    proving the fruits of death remain.

    how strange when it was defeated at the cross and a finished work completed.

    please read about john 10 v 10 = abundant life here and now
    john 11 v 24 25 26= the power of the resurrection here and how for BELIEVERS.

    PROPHETIC WORD

    “ Captivity is that which keeps a person bound.

    Humanity has been bound in death since Adam, and until this day, has accepted it.

    Christians have been bound in religion and the fear of leaving it. = the religion of Elijah = see it and grieve
    The fear says that “they are leaving the Lord”, because they see the Lord reflected in their religious ordinances and they are therefore bound to them.

    These are like the symbols in the first two courts.

    Only by entering into the third realm can a Christian be delivered from this bondage.
    It is not a satanic fear, but a humanistic fear, which results from a “sensual” worship.=elijah religion for 2000yrs the swine method has been in vogue

    So without the ordinances, they have nothing to relate to in worship.
    This is how it was in Moses tabernacle, until David found the “song of the heart” and changed from a sensual worship to the humble heart and broken spirit, for it is with these sacrifices that the Lord is well pleased.

    The church has been caught in this “Moses” realm of relating to ordinances and a blindness has come upon them as to the third realm.
    ''get back under the law they scream'' = watch out for satan's dogs

    There will arise a company, who, as Jesus did, will show them the entrance into the Holy of Holies and ultimately the deliverance from the bondage of Adam, death and religious ordinance into the glorious liberty of the Sons of God.
    The entrance is through the “rent veil of the flesh”.

    The time is coming when Joshua and Caleb will rise up and take the church over the river Jordan, or through “the veil of the flesh”.
    They will break through the soul barrier, and it will be as if they are dreaming.

    This dream will be as real as the reality of the situation and they shall find the presence of Jesus for which they have thought on, prayed for, and seen only beyond literal death.
    Some in the church will choose to stay on the other side of Jordan, opting for what they are familiar with.
    The majority will follow the Joshua Company, and enter the “day of Jesus, His Kingdom Day” and be filled with His Glory.
    They shall enter the city of Jerusalem in all of its Glory built and prepared for them. They shall see the Feast of Tabernacles and come to its Glory”.



    Elijah you lose~~~~~~ like I always told you you would~~~~no truth seeker will ever listen to your confused gospel law and other assorted mischievous traps.

    ALL GLORY TO JESUS
    Lucy,

    Did you get this article ABOVE from your nut case intercourse lover that was calling Christianity swine, and do you believe that nut case is a modern day Elijah too?
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    • #3
      Swine loves to eat swine too huh?

      Swine loves to eat swine too huh?

      Or, do you tie a pork chop around your neck to get your dog to follow you too?
      A bit of revelation for ye.

      Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

      By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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      • #4
        Thanks for the thread.

        Lucy likes me so much, that she even started a thread on me, how nice of her.

        Thanks Lucy.
        A bit of revelation for ye.

        Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

        By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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        • #5
          Lucy said:
          please read about john 10 v 10 = abundant life here and now
          john 11 v 24 25 26= the power of the resurrection here and how for BELIEVERS.
          Really?

          Lucy, have you already literally died the first physical death, and have you literally been resurrected from a literal death?

          Your delusion is so strong, maybe you would also believe that ants can also produce cows too huh?
          A bit of revelation for ye.

          Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

          By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

          Comment


          • #6
            cont 2000yrs of piggy is coming to its end...churchdom is dead.

            hurrah,,

            lets cont with the spirit of life and the real gospel

            THE GLORY OF LIFE, THE LIFE OF GLORY
            *
            Fallen man has never known Life.

            They experience existence.

            Life to the fallen human race is the continuing functioning of the body which becomes that which sustains their life.
            Their hope is in this body remaining free of fatal disease for as long as possible, in order that they can cram as much into the life in the space of time they have, between birth and death.
            [elijahs religion
            how many pills do you take to sustain you old man~~~~~]
            wants to die and go to heaven BUT NOT TOO QUICKLY HEY OLD SINNER~~~~~~

            When a person is born again they have an awareness of ~a new life,
            but it is something eternal seen beyond the grave.
            Death still dominates their thinking, although Jesus said that he came to give Life in abundance; His words have never been understood.


            He is the creator, giver, and sustainer of Life.


            The secret of Adam’s life before he fell was the one-ness of his will with the will of the Lord.
            He ate of God’s Life, and that Life flowed through him, giving him perfection in every form.
            They had a unity and one-ness in spirit, mind and body.
            Adam was created in the likeness of God Himself.

            It was a Glory existence.

            There was no thought of self or rebellion although Adam had the right to choose, and so he lived in a glorious existence with a mind and soul which thought, reacted and behaved identically with the Lord.
            Wisdom was the essence of his Life.
            He was created with these attributes, and through him creation was sustained on the earth.

            With the mind of God flowing in him, Adam never felt anything but Glory, until he chose to exercise his own choice above the word of God to him.
            Until the fall, he had no knowledge of humanistic feelings such as nakedness, hurt, rejection, fear, loneliness, and his body had never suffered sickness, and death had not entered the human race.

            He experienced Life without death

            . It was the pure Life of God, as pure as the Living water which flows from the Throne of God.
            It was Life without end.
            It was Life not gained through resurrection.
            It was Life which would not even know destruction.
            The new life, into which the Christian enters at Salvation, is not this life in outworking, but rather it is a living hope of New Life.

            Adam lost this in reality when He disobeyed the Word of God.
            The Glory Life was broken, and he entered the realm of humanism and as the father of every person born after him, passed this on to the human race.

            Death entered into the human race, not as a blessing from God but as a result of Adam’s rebellion.
            The Tree of Life, from which Adam ate, was guarded so that Adam could not partake of it again in his now human state.

            It has been guarded until Jesus opened the way back by victory over satan and death.
            He bruised the serpent’s head wherein satan held dominance over death.

            The knowledge of death was imparted to man and has dominated the human race ever since.
            At His Resurrection, Jesus conquered death, and now holds the keys of death and hell.
            Death had no hold on Jesus because He broke the serpent’s head wherein he held creation captive.
            Since Jesus resurrection, He has allowed two thousand years for people to receive his death as the penalty for sin, and accept Him as their Saviour.
            It has always been the intention for the Lord to open back the way into the Tree of Life, which is why He only set angels as guards at it.
            He could have sealed it off.

            The Sons of God are a company on this Earth now, whose hearts sought to eat again of this Tree which is actually Jesus Himself.
            *
            The Sons of God will never experience physical death.
            It has been removed from their consciousness.
            The serpent’s head has no further hold over them.
            They are a new creation by the Lord, unto Himself.
            He has burnt the human nature with its death consciousness out of them.
            Again they have the mind, soul, heart, character and nature of the Lord, and share in his Glorious Life.*
            They chose, yet they were chosen.
            They were set apart yet they set themselves apart.
            They will never die yet they have died.
            They are free yet they are bond slaves.
            They are rejected and even despised yet they accept it gladly.
            They accept all truth and never question it.
            They have hearts which are soft and easily hurt, yet they are as the Lion of Judah.
            They have weaknesses yet there is no sin.
            The human mind has lost its life.



            The religious mind is weak and fearful and finds its strength in traditions and forms of worship.= THE 2000YR OLD SWINE METHOD~~~~

            It condemns and judges against man made standards.
            It is conscious of good and evil, and reminds of sin as it feasts on things which touch the senses.
            It is afraid of death, but sees it as the hope of Glory.
            Man measures life as the span between birth and death. =HELLO ELIJAH = TASTE YOUR POISON~~~~~~

            Not so with Jesus and His Elect.
            They have no relativity to time.
            They have had the human life replaced by God’s Life in them.
            They shall break the power of death over creation as satan is bound for the one thousand year Kingdom Day of Jesus on the earth.
            Glory shall radiate from them, and if anybody desires what they have, the Lord shall grant them the authority to impart it by a work of recreation by the Holy Ghost.


            World economies and impossibilities will be reversed by their word of Wisdom.
            Their faces shall reflect the Glory of God, in the same way that Jesus face reflects the Light of the knowledge of the Glory of God.
            People shall wonder.
            It shall be that there will be a religious battle as the priests of “Moses Tabernacle” contend with them, but they have the power of Life and a New Day.
            Some of the religious priests will receive gladly, but others will die in their rejection.
            Life not only sustains Life, but has the power to produce Life, as the Life giving seeds will be spread by the wind of God’s presence in His Elect, moving throughout the earth.
            *
            *
            ALL GLORY TO JESUS
            LARRY WILSON


            YOU LOSE OLD MAN Elijah and his version of belief.... It shall be that there will be a religious battle as the priests of “Moses Tabernacle” contend with them, but they have the power of Life and a New Day.
            life wins~~~~~~

            I despise you pharisee
            lucy


            THE disguise comes before THE deception
            What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
            THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
            - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
            - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
            This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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            • #7
              the devils hound is barking.....
              remember
              no one has to be ''loving and kind'' to a murderer trying desperately to harm maim and destroy~~~~~~'

              watch him dig his own Pharisee grave~~~~ bye bye~~~~~~the Word has escaped from its religious jail~~~~
              THE disguise comes before THE deception
              What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
              THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
              - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
              - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
              This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                hurrah,,

                lets cont with the spirit of life and the real gospel

                THE GLORY OF LIFE, THE LIFE OF GLORY
                *
                Fallen man has never known Life.

                They experience existence.

                Life to the fallen human race is the continuing functioning of the body which becomes that which sustains their life.
                Their hope is in this body remaining free of fatal disease for as long as possible, in order that they can cram as much into the life in the space of time they have, between birth and death.
                [elijahs religion
                how many pills do you take to sustain you old man~~~~~]
                wants to die and go to heaven BUT NOT TOO QUICKLY HEY OLD SINNER~~~~~~

                When a person is born again they have an awareness of ~a new life,
                but it is something eternal seen beyond the grave.
                Death still dominates their thinking, although Jesus said that he came to give Life in abundance; His words have never been understood.


                He is the creator, giver, and sustainer of Life.


                The secret of Adam’s life before he fell was the one-ness of his will with the will of the Lord.
                He ate of God’s Life, and that Life flowed through him, giving him perfection in every form.
                They had a unity and one-ness in spirit, mind and body.
                Adam was created in the likeness of God Himself.

                It was a Glory existence.

                There was no thought of self or rebellion although Adam had the right to choose, and so he lived in a glorious existence with a mind and soul which thought, reacted and behaved identically with the Lord.
                Wisdom was the essence of his Life.
                He was created with these attributes, and through him creation was sustained on the earth.

                With the mind of God flowing in him, Adam never felt anything but Glory, until he chose to exercise his own choice above the word of God to him.
                Until the fall, he had no knowledge of humanistic feelings such as nakedness, hurt, rejection, fear, loneliness, and his body had never suffered sickness, and death had not entered the human race.

                He experienced Life without death

                . It was the pure Life of God, as pure as the Living water which flows from the Throne of God.
                It was Life without end.
                It was Life not gained through resurrection.
                It was Life which would not even know destruction.
                The new life, into which the Christian enters at Salvation, is not this life in outworking, but rather it is a living hope of New Life.

                Adam lost this in reality when He disobeyed the Word of God.
                The Glory Life was broken, and he entered the realm of humanism and as the father of every person born after him, passed this on to the human race.

                Death entered into the human race, not as a blessing from God but as a result of Adam’s rebellion.
                The Tree of Life, from which Adam ate, was guarded so that Adam could not partake of it again in his now human state.

                It has been guarded until Jesus opened the way back by victory over satan and death.
                He bruised the serpent’s head wherein satan held dominance over death.

                The knowledge of death was imparted to man and has dominated the human race ever since.
                At His Resurrection, Jesus conquered death, and now holds the keys of death and hell.
                Death had no hold on Jesus because He broke the serpent’s head wherein he held creation captive.
                Since Jesus resurrection, He has allowed two thousand years for people to receive his death as the penalty for sin, and accept Him as their Saviour.
                It has always been the intention for the Lord to open back the way into the Tree of Life, which is why He only set angels as guards at it.
                He could have sealed it off.

                The Sons of God are a company on this Earth now, whose hearts sought to eat again of this Tree which is actually Jesus Himself.
                *
                The Sons of God will never experience physical death.
                It has been removed from their consciousness.
                The serpent’s head has no further hold over them.
                They are a new creation by the Lord, unto Himself.
                He has burnt the human nature with its death consciousness out of them.
                Again they have the mind, soul, heart, character and nature of the Lord, and share in his Glorious Life.*
                They chose, yet they were chosen.
                They were set apart yet they set themselves apart.
                They will never die yet they have died.
                They are free yet they are bond slaves.
                They are rejected and even despised yet they accept it gladly.
                They accept all truth and never question it.
                They have hearts which are soft and easily hurt, yet they are as the Lion of Judah.
                They have weaknesses yet there is no sin.
                The human mind has lost its life.



                The religious mind is weak and fearful and finds its strength in traditions and forms of worship.= THE 2000YR OLD SWINE METHOD~~~~

                It condemns and judges against man made standards.
                It is conscious of good and evil, and reminds of sin as it feasts on things which touch the senses.
                It is afraid of death, but sees it as the hope of Glory.
                Man measures life as the span between birth and death. =HELLO ELIJAH = TASTE YOUR POISON~~~~~~

                Not so with Jesus and His Elect.
                They have no relativity to time.
                They have had the human life replaced by God’s Life in them.
                They shall break the power of death over creation as satan is bound for the one thousand year Kingdom Day of Jesus on the earth.
                Glory shall radiate from them, and if anybody desires what they have, the Lord shall grant them the authority to impart it by a work of recreation by the Holy Ghost.


                World economies and impossibilities will be reversed by their word of Wisdom.
                Their faces shall reflect the Glory of God, in the same way that Jesus face reflects the Light of the knowledge of the Glory of God.
                People shall wonder.
                It shall be that there will be a religious battle as the priests of “Moses Tabernacle” contend with them, but they have the power of Life and a New Day.
                Some of the religious priests will receive gladly, but others will die in their rejection.
                Life not only sustains Life, but has the power to produce Life, as the Life giving seeds will be spread by the wind of God’s presence in His Elect, moving throughout the earth.
                *
                *
                ALL GLORY TO JESUS
                LARRY WILSON


                YOU LOSE OLD MAN Elijah and his version of belief.... It shall be that there will be a religious battle as the priests of “Moses Tabernacle” contend with them, but they have the power of Life and a New Day.
                life wins~~~~~~

                I despise you
                lucy


                Lucy,

                Where did I write and say this?
                I despise you
                lucy
                More of your lies again huh?
                A bit of revelation for ye.

                Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

                Comment


                • #9
                  Messiah said well of you Lucy,

                  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44.

                  You speak like your father Lucy, always telling lies.
                  A bit of revelation for ye.

                  Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                  By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Messiah said well of you Lucy,

                    Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44.

                    You speak like your father Lucy, always telling lies.

                    I despise you
                    lucy
                    Or, did you write this because you really despise yourself?
                    A bit of revelation for ye.

                    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                    By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      I despise you
                      lucy
                      Can you believe someone who accuses, and writes bald face LIES like she does?
                      A bit of revelation for ye.

                      Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                      By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Rev.22:15.

                        She absolutely loves her lies, exactly as this verse by Messiah says so.
                        A bit of revelation for ye.

                        Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                        By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Its the pharisee WHO CHANGES THE GOSPEL into his own version of belief

                          the LIVING WORD will not be abused nor misused by a viper Yeshua called the Pharisee.~~~~~ satans helpers.

                          No
                          Father and His son will not be mocked by death and a hybrid gospel that makes ZOE LIFE NOW void and misunderstood.......
                          the power of the resurrection life comes out as a force that slays the works of the devil.
                          [who is a defeated foe]
                          the blustering lying pharisee, is at his wits end and cannot think straight on how to overcome ETERNAL LIFE FLOWING OUT FROM YESHUA'S EKKLESIA.

                          I REMEMBER ONCE THE STORY OF THE ROAR OF THE LION... ITS AN OLD LION AND ALL IT CAN DO IS ROAR... just like elijah.. who is a Toothless Lion when confronted by THE LVING GOSPEL AND THE CROSS AND IT THE TRUE FACT OF THE FINISHED WORK.

                          WHEN I KNEW I HAD my divine FATHER AND His SON My Saviour ON MY SIDE i let rip as Yeshua did that day with the money changes and their evil services.
                          no morre ''put up with this pharisee swine religion that murders 2000 people every 12 mins in this world.''

                          the church likes to say ''hush'' dont rock our boat as death rules their pews as they take their pills to remain alive longer AS HEAVEN IS NOT ALL THAT APPEALING just at this time


                          "Immortality; Here & Now!"
                          Question?

                          Most church people never even guessed that there was a question about "Immortality, Here & Now".
                          Most have been taught that immortality is something you receive AFTER you die.
                          "Once you die, then you don't have to die anymore..."
                          It seems like "immortality" is something for the soul... after you die!

                          I remember, while in the depths of my orthodox swine killing intoxication, saying "the spirit is dead, but when you meet The Master, your spirit comes alive, then it lives forever."
                          My question now looking back on that view is; "how can an alive person be indwelt by a 'dead spirit'.
                          Spirits don't die.
                          Yeshua said that "souls and bodies" die.
                          Spirits are begotten by a spirit, and are deathless.


                          God is spirit. John 4:24
                          Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. John 3:6
                          So the spirit is begotten by it's Father.
                          Then bodies are, of course, grown from a seed.
                          The whole new born again creation subject has been thoroughly confused during this long, dark, night.

                          But immortality for the human body, here and now?
                          Who ever heard of THAT?

                          It is obvious that everyone MUST DIE, right?
                          Of course, all in church circles been indoctrinated with the one - AND ONLY - verse in the Bible that can be bent to say that we are supposed to die:
                          man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment... Heb 9:27
                          It is true that once someone dies, they will face judgement, but the only reason why we are "destined to die" is because of our own love for and willingness to follow the devils plan, rather than the ways of The Father of LIFE
                          ...!!!
                          If you are willing to "shake the carpet - of creed" and hear the words of a LOVING FATHER, inviting His children to simply listen and obey;


                          "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life. John 5:24

                          elijah follows the devil's plan....he posts the lifeless rubbish there in black and white...
                          so the grim reaper has a disciple



                          posted 10 55pm usa time zone\bible numerics for #1055 as follows
                          #1055 God, grace and mercy =
                          The qualities of God’s character by which he shows himself compassionate, accepting, and generous to sinful human beings, shielding them from his wrath, forgiving them, and bestowing on them his righteousness so that they can live and grow in faith and obedience. Grace and mercy are particularly expressed through God’s covenant through christ's atoning death on the cross.
                          Last edited by LucySmith; 01-15-2017, 11:38 PM.
                          THE disguise comes before THE deception
                          What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                          THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                          - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                          - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                          This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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                          • #14
                            the real reason for making ETERNAL ZOE LIFE VOID HERE AND HOW.... IS BECAUSE

                            THE GREAT CROWD OF WITNESSES are depending upon the life ministry =zoe= to perfect them and be co joined as one unit

                            The Doctrine of Death*[from there Is a path]

                            *If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.** John 8:51***
                            The statements of Jesus concerning eternal life were so startling to the hearers of his day that they thought him insane and dangerous and sought to kill him.*

                            We must ask ourselves why his words concerning eternal life provoked such a response.* [nOtice Elijah please and his reactions to LIFE NOW A CLASSIC re action of unbelief]


                            This violent reaction is in marked contrast to the way in which Christians today receive his words.*
                            As a result of 2,000 years of religious programming and false teaching, Christians today interpret Jesus’ words in a way that nullifies and robs them of their power.*

                            What we see reflected in the theologies of all Christian denominations is the common sense understanding which declares:
                            “He could not have meant physical death because, after all, everybody dies”

                            .* Thus begins the process whereby the powerful statements of faith proclaimed by the Word of God -- and there is no statement more powerful than the promise that believers can overcome death -- are interpreted in light of the collective experience of Christians who were never exposed to the truth.
                            * Christians die because the necessary precondition for conquering death, which is an overcoming faith, is not encouraged and then the fact that Christians die just like unbelievers is used, in turn, to justify the doctrine of death.*

                            hello Elijah take a look at yourself and who you are......
                            The religious system, which God calls Babylon in the book of Revelation, teaches that immortality applies after we experience a physical death and relates basically to an afterlife.*

                            This makes the concept of immortality contradictory, if not absurd.*
                            * If immortality becomes effectual after we die, why did Jesus need to bring it to light?*

                            To the Hebrew people, there would have been nothing radical about the proclamation of an afterlife – certainly nothing that would produce scandal, shock and provoke persecution.*
                            If the Father, through Jesus, was merely ushering in a new, glorified after-life for believers as the system teaches in its interpretation of the scripture: “O Death, where is thy sting?”, why does the writer of the book of Hebrews describe the heroes of faith in the Old Testament and then go on to say that this cloud of witnesses surrounds believers in the flesh looking to us in the here and now to bring them into perfection (Heb. 11 and 12)?*

                            This tells me that the focus of the saints in the spirit realm is on the saints who are still in their physical bodies.*
                            Why?*
                            They are looking to us to accomplish in the flesh that which they could not attain to in their lifetimes – victory over death.*

                            If the ministry of Jesus was to cleanse us from sin so that, after we die, we can enjoy eternity with God, why was he the Passover Lamb?*
                            The blood of the Passover lamb in the Old Testament was a covering to protect the children of Israel from the angel of death and was a type of Jesus’ true ministry: to deliver us from death, in all its forms, by delivering us from sin.*
                            THE disguise comes before THE deception
                            What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                            THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                            - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                            - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                            This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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                            • #15
                              Lucy,

                              There are about 7 points in these verses Matthew 10:28; Luke 12:4-5 of Messiah below, that should be noted.

                              What is Hell Fire=Ghenna Fire? The second death see Rev.2:11; 20:6; 20:14; 21:8.

                              And fear not them which kill the body/flesh, but are not able to kill the psyche/mind and spirit: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both psyche/mind and spirit, and body in hell fire (Ghenna Fire).
                              Matthew 10:28; Luke 12:4-5.

                              1. The psyche/mind and spirit cannot die in the first death.

                              2.. Messiah distinguishes the psyche/mind and spirit-inner person, from the flesh body.

                              3. Don't worry about those who can kill the body/flesh, or the first death.

                              4. Man cannot kill or destroy the psyche/mind or spirit-inner person in man.

                              5. Fear Him which is able to destroy BOTH psyche/mind, spirit, and body/flesh in hell fire/ the second death.

                              6. The psyche/mind and spirit can only die in the second death.

                              7.The psyche/mind and spirit in man is not immortal.

                              And fear not them which kill the body/flesh, but are not able to kill the psyche/mind and spirit:

                              The first physical death does NOT kill or destroy the psyche/mind and spirit in man, so says Messiah Himself on the matter.

                              And fear not them which kill the body/flesh

                              Lucy, is the flesh body immortal, according to Messiah above?

                              Now why do you not believe Him?

                              Tell me Lucy, who else teaches this above?
                              A bit of revelation for ye.

                              Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

                              By His name YAH . Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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